HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 2018-09-18 MINUTES OF THE 1,129th PUBLIC HEARINGS AND REGULAR MEETING
HELD BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, September 18, 2018, the City Planning Commission of the City of
Livonia held its 1,129th Public Hearings and Regular Meeting in the Livonia City
Hall, 33000 Civic Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. Ian Wilshaw, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Members present: Sam Caramagno Glen Long Betsy McCue
Carol Smiley Ian Wilshaw
Members absent: Peter Ventura
Mr. Mark Taormina, Planning Director, and Ms. Margie Watson, Program
Supervisor, were also present.
Chairman Wilshaw informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda
involves a rezoning request, this Commission makes a recommendation to the City
Council who, in turn, will hold its own public hearing and make the final
determination as to whether a petition is approved or denied. The Planning
Commission holds the only public hearing on a request for preliminary plat and/or
vacating petition. The Commission's recommendation is forwarded to the City
Council for the final determination as to whether a plat is accepted or rejected. If a
petition requesting a waiver of use or site plan approval is denied tonight, the
petitioner has ten days in which to appeal the decision, in writing, to the City
Council. Resolutions adopted by the City Planning Commission become effective
seven (7) days after the date of adoption. The Planning Commission and the
professional staff have reviewed each of these petitions upon their filing. The staff
has furnished the Commission with both approving and denying resolutions, which
the Commission may, or may not, use depending on the outcome of the
proceedings tonight.
ITEM #1 PETITION 2018-09-07-01 MASTER PLAN
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda, Petition 2018-
09-07-01 submitted by the Livonia Planning Commission
requesting to concur with the recommendation of the Livonia
Master Plan Steering Committee to submit the proposed
Comprehensive Master Plan (LIVONIA VISION 21) to the Livonia
City Council for review and comment and to authorize distribution
of the Plan pursuant to MCL 125.3841 of P.A. 33 of 2008, as
amended, the Michigan Planning Enabling Act.
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Mr. Taormina: This evening we are pleased to have Mr. Paul Lippens here from
McKenna & Associates to present to the Planning Commission
the draft of Livonia Vision 21. As all of you know, this has been a
project we have been undertaking now for the past ten months. It
has included a very robust public engagement process
culminating in a charrette that was held a few months back where
we received a tremendous amount of input from the public. There
were other forms of public engagement that Paul will discuss
briefly tonight, but what I'd like to do is hand it over to him and run
through the draft of the plan. Again, our goal this evening is for
the Planning Commission in reviewing this to accept it as a draft
and forward it to the City Council to allow it, pursuant to State law,
for review and comment and thereafter authorize distribution of
that Plan for a 63-day public comment period. Changes can be
made depending on the input we receive, both from the Planning
Commission and City Council as well as the public, and then go
through a formal adoption process involving another review by
the Planning Commission and then a receive and file by City
Council. This really is the initial step in the beginning of the review
process as required by State law. So with that, I'd like to turn it
over to Paul
Mr. Wilshaw: Sounds good. Mr. Lippens.
Paul Lippens: Thank you very much. It's my pleasure to be here tonight to
provide this update and to present to you the draft of the Livonia
Vision 21 plan. If you recall, I was here back in April when we
were doing the charrette and updated you on what we were
hoping to accomplish with the charrette and some of the
preliminary research that had been done at that time, as well as
a little bit on the role that master plans play in guiding city policy.
I do plan tonight to provide a brief background on master plans,
similar to what I provided at that time for the benefit of the public.
My goal is to actually go through some of the recommendations
and the draft plan. As Mark said, this action tonight that the
Planning Commission could choose to take to recommend that
City Council consider the Plan for distribution to the public is the
beginning of the State's required adoption procedures for master
plans. What we've done up to this time essentially follows the
State requirements for preparing that draft. We've gone a little
beyond what the State requires by working with the Steering
Committee. All the meetings with the Steering Committee have
been public advertised meetings, in addition to conducting the
public outreach process, which I'll talk about a bit tonight as well.
This is the formalized adoption process for master plans, which
involve posting this draft plan for 63 days, distributing the draft
plan to surrounding communities as well as other agencies that
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do planning, like SEMCOG and the County, for any comments
from other planning agencies on how the Plan might address or
be affected by their plans as well. So what is a Master Plan?
Master Plans are guides for future development. They are not the
only policy document that a city has, but they are somewhat the
organizing document for many city policies, including parks and
recreation plans. They can guide the city's capital improvement
plan, and they can also be related to sub-area plans, like the
Bike/Walk Livonia plan. This Plan is hoping to incorporate that
plan as policy and be the Plan that you adopt that formalizes
some of those policies. Master Plans are the basis for zoning
changes. When the Planning Commission might consider a
petition for changing zoning, one of the key questions you ask is,
is this change in zoning consistent with our Future Master Plan,
with the plan that we have for guiding land use in the city. One of
the good things about having and using a Master Plan for that
policy is that it helps create clarity in the city's policy for
developing sites, for guiding future development and it can be a
reference both for residents and developers as well as public
officials and appointed Planning Commission members in making
recommendations. In summary, the Master Plan is policy
whereas the Zoning Ordinance is actually the law and regulation
that applies to land development. Master Plans are adopted by
the Planning Commission in Livonia. The State does permit city
councils to basically pass resolutions making them the adopting
body, but in Livonia, the Planning Commission is the adopting
body. Zoning Ordinances by State law are adopted by the City
Council which is why you make a recommendation on zoning
changes to your City Council. Master Plans are really future-
oriented documents. They show 10 years, 20 years, what's the
vision for the changing development patterns or the protection of
development patterns. The Zoning Ordinance shows how those
development patterns are regulated today and what laws apply
to those plans today. Your Master Plan contains a Future Land
Use map that has classifications or designations for future land
use categories, and they are intended to be coordinated with your
zoning district but different from your zoning district. So these
maps don't necessarily always coincide. This example above
shows how a public service district, the green area, might be
actually zoned in an area that was planned for the future to be
industrial. That difference is shown at the bottom left corner of
these two illustrative diagrams. And that's really just to show that
over time you rezone properties, you imagine the changing
development patterns of the city, and your Future Land Use Plan
is what guides you in making those decisions. It's not law but it
does outline the future policy. The project planning process is a
circular process. Master Plans are recommended to be updated
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every five years. The update we've done with Livonia Vision 21
is fairly comprehensive and more involved than some of the prior
planning efforts. It does include a synopsis of all the goals
established in all of Livonia's planning processes and we took the
time to do analysis of Livonia's prior goals and objectives to
incorporate them and modernize them with this planning effort.
Once assessing the community desires, we formalized what we
heard in public engagement into what the City's goals and
objectives are, the alternative development options for the plan,
and then formalizing those in what the Steering Committee is
recommending as a consensus plan, a plan that they felt has
been thoroughly vetted, that we've talked about a variety of
alternative directions, and really incorporated what they've asked
us to look at and study as well as what we heard from the public
and what the public wanted to be looked at and evaluated through
this process. We've created that into a consensus plan or a draft
plan for the Planning Commission to consider and to be released
to the public for the formal process. When that plan would be
adopted, the Plan still has to be an action document. It has to be
worked on and become a part of creating work plans to become
a document that's referenced in zoning updates. It will require
periodic review and update, but as I said, the State guidelines
require municipalities to re-look at this process at least every five
years and then reassess what you've been doing to implement
them and update any goals, objectives or land use policies that
need to be updated as the economy changes. An overview of the
process. This was imagined as a year-long process that we
kicked off in January. We did have a meeting in December but
that was preparing us for the year. We stayed pretty much on
schedule with this being month nine, September, and looking to
launch the statutory review period, which is 63 days, and going
back to the Planning Commission when you would hold a formal
public hearing at the end of that process to allow for public
comment prior to taking any action on adopting the Plan. Mark
mentioned that we had a charrette as part of our public outreach
process, but we also did an extensive on-line outreach process.
We created a website as part of this plan, and the City has an
active social media director who helped to live stream many of
the events as well as coordinate outreach through the City's
Facebook page to drive traffic to take some of the surveys. I have
a little summary here. In addition to the charrette, which we had
many visitors kind of floating in and out of a variety of events, our
website generated almost 7,000 page views. We had over 2,500
unique visitors to that website. We generated more than 1,700
survey responses and 1,600 of those were on-line. Through the
charrette we got 135 formal survey responses. We had many
more people participate in the charrette but not everybody does
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every survey when they come to those open houses. So we were
very happy with the responses we got and the goal to doing the
online outreach was to basically provide the same program, the
same type of feedback opportunity online as we did in person.
We really standardized that process and kind of provided the
same outreach opportunities in person as we did on line so that
the information could be replicable to each other. That's my
background on the Master Plan process as well as what the role
of the Master Plan plays in the City's process. I did want to take
a few minutes to share some of the contents of the draft plan. The
Planning Commission obviously has the entire plan in your
packet for review, but I wanted to give a synopsis tonight for the
people attending as well as anyone who is viewing at home. So
the Master Plan, the Vision 21 plan, is divided into four books.
The reason why we did four books is so that people could actually
read this in bite-size chunks. I have the whole thing printed here,
but it will be much easier to kind of have one short magazine.
These are divided into 30 or 40 page chunks. The first book is
Livonia Starts Now. This is where Livonia is today. The second
book is the Land Development Book which describes how Livonia
should grow. The third book is Systems Development, which is
how do we get there. The fourth book is Development Strategies,
how to secure the future. The contents of the first book really are
related to demographics, understanding the economic and social
trends that have changed or are changing, as well as the report
back of all of the public comments and surveys. That is handled
in this book as well. We think that it's really important to both base
recommendations on that public comment but also report back
because there's actually value in understanding the raw data that
was provided and how that was analyzed. Book 2, Land
Development, is functionally the Future Land Use
recommendations of the Plan. That is the book that includes the
Future Land Use Plan as well as sub-area plans for special parts
of the city. Book 3, Systems Development, includes the
transportation recommendations for future transportation
patterns and systems, as well as guidelines for the City's
infrastructure systems, housing systems, parks and those types
of related city system. Book 4, Strategic Development, is really
the action plan. Here we outlined some priority projects as well
as specific guidelines and priorities for implementing all the City's
goals and objectives. What were some of the public engagement
findings? For housing and neighborhoods, the surveys indicated
Livonia residents, seeing that the existing neighborhoods are a
true asset to the community and wanting all the policy to focus on
improving and protecting the City's neighborhoods. Related to
creating a downtown, survey responders recognized the need for
the re-development of underutilized commercial properties and,
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specifically, the creation not just of one downtown, but of multiple
centers, but also elevating the future City Center to have a higher
status in the community as really the City's core place of identity.
For the transportation network, it was noted that the first priority
was to maintain the quality of surface of roads, but we also found
there was significant support and desire to look at and evaluate
future transit service in the city as well as to adopt and implement
the City's Bike/Walk Livonia Plan. Another key priority was the
City's parks and open space. The preferred type of open space
facilities were split on precedents but people did like to see
central plazas within vibrant business districts, but the City has
many park resources that the City wanted to see protected and
expanded on and connected via transportation facilities. That's
kind of a summary of public preferences but those preferences
certainly influence the development of the Future Land Use Plan.
The goal in developing and modifying the Future Land Use Plan
was, one, to consolidate districts. So we've simplified the land
use patterns and this will allow us to move towards considering
more foreign-based recommendations, looking at design
guidelines as well as building guidelines in zoning as opposed to
focusing on use. Use is important, but we wanted to simplify it
basically to support development and Mixed Use development as
well as protecting housing and parks. We have consolidated or
really eliminated office categories. We've also combined several
commercial categories and kind of modified them. Now we're
suggesting a Corridor Commercial category and a regional
Commercial category as opposed to one commercial category for
those uses. We've created a Mixed Development Center
category and City Center category for Mixed Use centers. This is
what that looks like. I'll point out that the red along the north/south
and east/west corridors is the Corridor Commercial and the idea
here is to reinforce the small scale more neighborhood-based
commercial development, but to do that in a way that also
supports the businesses that are there.We recognize a few areas
in the city as having a higher regional commercial impact and
those are the areas around Middlebelt and 96 as well as Seven
Mile and 275 going south. We also created Mixed Development
Centers. Those are areas that are intended to become and
support more housing and Mixed Use Commercial development.
They would really be like neighborhood downtown areas, is what
they're envisioned as, so closer walkable areas to support the
northern and southeastern parts of the City that are located
around Plymouth Road and Middlebelt, Seven Mile and
Middlebelt, Farmington and Seven Mile, and then again at Six
Mile and Newburgh. Of course, I mentioned that we elevated the
status of the City Center as being the downtown for the entire city.
In a couple slides I have some renderings of some site plans for
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these areas or site development concepts for these areas.
Another important thing was creating housing opportunities and
supporting neighborhoods. We talked a lot about the idea of
Missing Middle Housing. Missing Middle Housing is housing that
exists between standard apartment complexes or condo
complexes and single-family housing. There is a lot of range
between there that is somewhat underserved by the market.
What we did was define what those building types might be and
look at it from a perspective of what building types could be
serviced in Missing Middle Housing and say which districts were
best and which places in the city were best for considering them.
Generally, it was the preference of the Steering Committee that
these types of housing be looked at along corridors and at the
edge of districts. So what we did was we looked at the City's
existing middle density housing district and where that was
located in the City, and looked for places along the major
corridors where there might be an opportunity to expand that at
the edge of some of the Mixed Development districts. We also
suggested that this housing type could be added to the City's
Corridor Commercial district and be utilized within the Mixed
Development Centers and the City Center districts. It really is an
opportunity to do some retrofit along the corridors in the city and
support new housing types. For special planning areas, we
looked to do sub-area plans at three specific locations. These
locations were chosen in part because they are good models for
the rest of the City. So we examined these in some detail to look
at how we might create building codes and modify zoning codes
to implement the City's goals through these model areas. So we
looked at the City Center site, the former Livonia Mall site and
east Plymouth Road as a model for corridor retrofit development.
I'll cover this quickly. These results came out of the charrette
process where we actually did a design exercise with I think more
than 40 or 50 people. We had 12 tables at least 8 to 10 people
per table, and it was very well attended. I think we had at least
two tables looking at each one of these. I think I said 12 tables,
but I think we had more like 8. I don't want to exaggerate. I think
we had eight tables and at least two for each and some of them
had three. We evaluated, came up with ideas. So this is an
example for City Center. There was a desire to create public
space, to create new apartment or mixed development
opportunities in moving the senior center as well as creating
retrofit opportunities on the existing school bus yard, which is
located in E. Also, one of the things that we thought was
surprising was there was wide consensus for actually building a
new city hall and by actually changing that, it created the
opportunity to kind of recommend some phase development in
modifying this site. We also looked at the former Livonia Mall site.
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This really shows how you could retrofit a lot of under-utilized
surface parking to create new neighborhoods and a new
commercial center that would really function more as a walkable
downtown for the neighborhood surrounding that site. This type
of development could be a model for any of the city's areas with
large surface parking lots. The Steering Committee also chose
this location because it was more of a future development and
something that we didn't think there was anything in the pipelines
planned for this area now. So it was something we could look at
with a little bit more freedom and a little bit more of a future
visioning hat. We looked at the east Plymouth Road corridor.
Really the idea for corridor development was to do infill, to look
at spot infill, to create rear site access so that shared driveways
could be used behind facilities, to allow for more site crossings
and a pedestrian friendly environment to get across the streets,
and then to soften the corridor with quality landscaping and
materials used in facade retrofits. Again, I think the value of
looking at the east Plymouth Road corridor was that we could use
that as a model for any retrofits to any of the city's corridors and
to develop design guidelines for the city's corridors. In the
Systems Development chapter, we look at future transportation
desires. I mentioned there was an interest in looking at transit and
specifically kind of orientating those transit systems to connect to
the City's Mixed Development Centers, but there was also a lot
of feedback that we got just about adopting and implementing the
Bike/Walk Livonia Plan. So the Plan does recommend that the
Bike/Walk Livonia Plan that the Planning Commission and City
Council worked on in 2015 is also adopted as part of your
transportation policy. The Plan covers policy and needs for
maintaining the City's dedication to infrastructure as well as to
providing support for the City's strong residential neighborhoods
which really make up most of the city's land use pattern. I should
mention that it was really important that we development a plan
that had some actionable steps that the City could work on. It
contains a list of seven three-year priority projects. This is kind of
a short punch list, a work plan for the Planning Commission to
work on in concert with your staff, but they include doing a
comprehensive update to your Zoning Ordinance, working on a
development plan, a feasibility development plan for the City
Center development area, outlining the retrofit concept further for
the Plymouth Road corridor plan, implementing the Livonia bike
loop, which the City has already started to work on, conducting a
transit and innovative mobility study to define what if any transit
policy the city wanted to pursue, as well as updating the Capital
Improvement Plan that the City manages and updating the City's
infrastructure plan. Those are the hot projects, but we did outline
a number of goals and objectives to address all the great
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information that we heard from the Steering Committee as well
as the public and to provide priorities for implementing the City's
policy in short and near term time frame as well. So there's an
expanded action plan as part of this document as well. I maybe
went a little bit longer than I wanted, but not too much longer. I
did want to take the time to provide you the highlights of the Plan
so that you could ask questions tonight. As Mark mentioned, the
action that is recommended is to recommend the Plan for
distribution by City Council to the public.
Mr. Wilshaw: Excellent. Thank you, Mr. Lippens. Do we have any questions for
Mr. Lippens in regard to the Plan that we just saw? I think you
covered everything.
Mr. Lippens: That's the value of doing a longer presentation.
Mr. Wilshaw: Is there anybody in the audience that has any comments? I don't
see anybody coming forward. I will say, Mr. Lippens, that this is a
plan that, compared to some of the other plans that have been
produced in many, many years past, which really looked at
Livonia in a very futuristic vision, while this plan does look to the
future of the city, it looks at it in a very practical and doable way
with a lot of realistic goals. I think that's an important thing in this
process and I think it's been a good asset. The Steering
Committee has done a wonderful job in developing this, and not
only is this a good planning tool, but this is also a good marketing
tool that can be given to potential realtors, developers,
corporations, and so on, to show that these are the things that we
have planned for these areas of the city if they're looking to locate
in those areas. So I think it's an excellent document. With that, is
there any other comments from the Commission? If not, I believe
we will need a motion to accept the draft and move it to City
Council.
Mr. Taormina: As it was explained earlier, this is the beginning of the public
comment period. So there will be plenty of opportunity for the
Commission to weigh in as you delve into some of the details of
the Plan, as well as residents. It is required to go to adjacent
communities for their comment and other public agencies
involved in planning. We have a draft resolution if you're willing
to make that motion. Basically, what it would do is concur in the
recommendation of the Master Plan Steering Committee to
forward the draft of Livonia Vision 21 to City Council for review
and comment, and thereafter submit the Plan for public comment
pursuant to the Michigan Planning Enable Act.
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Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Taormina. Yes. This is just the beginning of a 63-
day period so there will be plenty of opportunity for people to
chime in and continue to massage the Plan.
Mr. Caramagno: If we concur on this and move this to Council, they will take a look
at it and when will the review start?
Mr. Taormina: We have it targeted for mid-to-late October. The Plan would be
formally distributed, and the public comment period would begin
ticking. Again, 63 days is what the requirement is. Once that's
over and we're able to consolidate and incorporate any changes
in the Plan based on those comments, it would come back to the
Planning Commission. We are targeting late November or maybe
even our last meeting in December. We're hoping to kind of close
out the year with this Plan. The other exciting news is we're going
to turn right around and begin implementing some of the
recommendations of this Plan. First and foremost will be a
comprehensive overhaul of the Zoning Ordinance. This body is
going to be engaged on a very regular basis looking at the Zoning
Ordinance from top to bottom. We're going to completely
overhaul that. We're just going to keep moving. We'd like to end
the year with the adoption of the Plan and then move right into
the next phase of the project.
Mr. Caramagno: So it will be an action packed 2019. Good. Thank you.
On a motion by Smiley, seconded by McCue, and unanimously adopted, it was
#09-61-2018 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a public meeting having been held
by the City Planning Commission on September 18, 2018, on
Petition 2018-09-07-01 submitted by the Livonia Planning
Commission, the Planning Commission does hereby concur with
the recommendation of the Livonia Master Plan Steering
Committee to forward the proposed Comprehensive Master Plan
(Livonia Vision 21) to the Livonia City Council for review and
comment, and thereafter authorize distribution of the Plan for
public comment pursuant to MCL 125.3841 of P.A. 33 of 2008,
as amended, commonly known as the Michigan Planning
Enabling Act.
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution.
We want to thank you, Mr. Lippens, for your presentation tonight.
Mr. Lippens: My pleasure.
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ITEM #2 PETITION 2018-07-02-17 VERIZON
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Petition 2018-
07-02-17 submitted by TeleSite Wireless, on behalf of Verizon
Wireless, requesting waiver use approval pursuant to Section
18.42A of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as
amended, to erect a wireless communication support structure
(120-foot-high monopole) and construct a supporting equipment
shelter in the southeast corner of the American Legion property
at 9318 Newburgh Road, located on the east side of Newburgh
Road between Joy Road and Ann Arbor Trail in the Southwest 1/4
of Section 32.
Mr. Taormina: This is a request on behalf of Verizon Wireless to construct a new
wireless communication support structure, a monopole that
would be 120 feet in height. It would be located on property
owned by the American Legion Post #32 on Newburgh Road
between Joy and Ann Arbor Trail. This is property that lies
immediately adjacent to Churchill High School, and more
specifically, the school's main athletic field. The site of American
Legion Post #32 is roughly 2.2 acres. It includes 350 feet of
frontage on Newburgh Road and has a depth of 277 feet. There
are three different zoning classifications currently on the
American Legion Post property. This includes a small area of
residential zoning on the north end, C-1 Local Business zoning
where the actual hall is located, and then on the southerly portion
of the site, which is where the tower is proposed, the zoning is P,
Parking, encompassing the southerly 84 feet. Looking at the
surrounding properties, immediately to the south, north, and west
across Newburgh Road are residentially zoned properties. There
is RUF zoning immediately to the south, R-1 zoning to the west
across Newburgh Road, and then Kingston Village site
condominiums, which is zoned R-C, Residential Condominiums,
a higher density housing complex located to the north. To the east
adjacent to this site is PL, Public Land and is the site of Churchill
High School. A little about the history. It was in 2015 when
Verizon first approached the City and requested approval to erect
a 120-foot support structure, which would have been on the west
side of the high school track adjacent to the bleachers. Like a
structure that currently exists on the opposite side of the field, or
the east side of the track, it would have served the dual purpose
of not only providing support for wireless communication
providers like Verizon, but also would provide support for an
outdoor lighting fixture for the track and field. The ground
equipment in that case would have been located on the American
Legion Post property, which is immediately adjacent to where the
bleachers are located and where the light pole and tower was
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proposed. The item, however, was tabled to allow Verizon to
pursue collocating on the existing support structure, which is
owned by Crown Castle and presently contains a single wireless
carrier. For reasons that I'll allow the petitioner to explain, they
are no longer pursuing to construct a new tower at the high
school, as well as collocate on the existing light tower that is
owned by Crown Castle. We went into this in quite some detail at
the study session, but I'll let the petitioner, for the record, explain
the reasons why they are no longer pursuing the tower at either
location. The proposed new monopole and equipment shelter
would be in the southeast corner of the American Legion
property. This is an area that is zoned and used for parking. The
area where the tower and the ground equipment would be located
is in a rectangular space that measures roughly 38 feet by 20
feet. It would be surrounded by a six-foot high chain link fence.
The ground surface would be crushed gravel or limestone, and
there would be permanent unobstructed access provided to this
area from Newburgh Road through the parking lot of the
American Legion property. Again, the tower itself would be in the
form a monopole. Most of the towers that you see around the
community are of similar design. This would be 120 feet tall, also
standard for this type of application. There are many
requirements as they relate to wireless communication support
structures, but one of those is that it cannot be located any closer
to a residential district than the height of the tower plus 25 feet.
So in this case, the minimum required setback from the adjoining
residentially-zoned property would be 145 feet. The tower as
proposed would be roughly 35 feet from the property line, which
will have to be waived by City Council. Additional setback
requirements in the ordinance are a fall zone of the height of the
tower from any adjacent public rights-of-way. Again, in this case,
that's 120 feet. It doesn't have the additional 25 feet. It's just the
height of the tower from Newburgh Road. In this case, the
setback is adequate at 210 feet. Lastly, which really goes to the
heart of what the Commission will speak of here, and that's the
requirement in the ordinance that any new tower not be located
within half a mile from any existing antenna unless it is
demonstrated that they are unable to collocate on that tower. We
know from the previous petition that there is a similar tower
located only 380 feet to the east on the opposite side of the track
and field property. Again, I'll allow the petitioner to go into detail
as to reasons why they cannot locate there. With that, Mr.
Chairman, I can read out the departmental correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, please.
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Mr. Taormina: There are six items of correspondence. The first item is from the
Engineering Division, dated August 3, 2018, which reads as
follows: "In accordance with your request, the Engineering
Division has reviewed the above referenced petition. We have no
objections to the proposed waiver use at this time. The existing
parcel is assigned the address of#9318 Newburgh Road. The
submitted legal description appears to be correct and should be
used in conjunction with this petition. The existing parcel is
currently serviced by public water main, sanitary sewer and storm
sewer. Should the proposed project require alterations to the
existing services or work within the Newburgh Road right-of-way,
drawings will need to be submitted to this department to
determine if permits will be required." The letter is signed by
David W. Lear, P.E., Assistant City Engineer. The second letter
is from the Livonia Fire & Rescue Division, dated August 17,
2018, which reads as follows: "This office has reviewed the site
plan submitted in connection with a request to erect a wireless
communication support structure and construct a supporting
equipment shelter on property located at the above referenced
address. We have no objections to this proposal." The letter is
signed by Keith Bo, Fire Marshal. The third letter is from the
Division of Police, dated August 8, 2018, which reads as follows:
I have reviewed the plans in connection with the petition. I have
no objections to the proposal."The letter is signed by Brian Leigh,
Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The fourth letter is from the Inspection
Department, dated August 24, 2018, which reads as follows:
"Pursuant to your request, the above-referenced petition has
been reviewed. This communication structure is proposed to be
located closer than a half mile of an existing communication
structure. The petitioner will need to demonstrate that collocation
is not feasible. This Department has no further objections to this
Petition." The letter is signed by Jerome Hanna, Director of
Inspection. The fifth letter is from the Treasurer's Department,
dated August 7, 2018, which reads as follows: "In accordance
with your request, the Treasurer's Office has reviewed the
address connected with the above noted petition. At this time,
there are no outstanding amounts receivable for taxes.
Therefore, I have no objections to the proposal." The letter is
signed by Lynda Scheel, Treasurer. The sixth letter is from the
Finance Department, dated August 6, 2018, which reads as
follows: "I have reviewed the addresses connected with the
above noted petition. As there are no outstanding amounts
receivable, general or water and sewer, I have no objections to
the proposal." The letter is signed by Coline Coleman, Chief
Accountant. That is the extent of the correspondence.
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Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any questions of the Planning Director? Is the petitioner
here this evening? We will need your name and address for the
record please.
Robert LaBelle, 32543 Camborne, Livonia, Michigan. With me tonight is David
Antoun and Claudine Antoun, who are from TeleSite Wireless,
the site acquisition specialists for Verizon Wireless and who
found the site that we will be discussing tonight. In addition, is
Mike Avery who is from our RF Department, Radio Frequency
Department, the engineer responsible for determining heights.
The propagation maps that you have in your packets and also
with regard to siting the location in the initial case, that is creating
a search ring. Also with us tonight is Dan Newton from the
American Legion Post as the landowner. Obviously, Mark has
done a very good job of going through the entire proposal and
specifically those things that relate to it. I could go into just those
specific things that were addressed. Mark said he would allow the
petitioner to go through. I can do that now or we could take
comments or questions from the Commission in a more pointed
way. Whichever way you want to proceed, I'm happy to do either.
Mr. Wilshaw: Mr. LaBelle, as we mentioned at our study meeting, we don't
really give you an opportunity to give a presentation at that
meeting, so this is your chance to go on the record.
Mr. LaBelle: All right. We'll start first with a little bit of history. The history talked
about the fact that originally we were going to be putting this
partially on the Churchill High School property and partially on the
American Legion property. That was the original proposal in part
because we initially approached the Livonia Public School
system for the purpose of being able to place a tower. We often
do that because we seek out public entities, churches, schools,
etc., try to provide the revenue in that direction. We did, in fact,
continue that process up until Livonia Public School said we're
not interested any longer. In your packets is information that was
provided including emails from them as well as reference to their
Board of Education meeting in which they basically declined to
consider a site any longer on their facility. So as a result, we
reworked all the process to have it located wholly on the
American Legion property. Going back even further to the Crown
Castle site, we worked for almost three years. It went all the way
back to 2015 with Crown Castle trying to seek some way to use
their existing tower, and basically the answer is, it's not feasible.
The existing tower, and you have the structural report in your files
now, shows that the existing structure would fail capacity by over
135 percent. The structure simply isn't capable of handling an
additional carrier on it, even with an extension. The only way to
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actually use that property would be to expand the tower and make
it larger. The existing light pole that you find there is 90 feet tall,
the top of which is the antennas, and then 10 feet below that are
the lights that service the football field adjacent to it. That site, in
order to expand it and get it higher in that case, would require
Crown Castle to modify the tower, and as you can see from the
structural report, they concluded that is not possible to do. The
structure as built originally was not capable of handling frankly
any collocators on it. It was simply built for one party. The site that
we're proposing now, and the reason why we're proposing it and
at the height we're proposing it, is in order to be able to cover the
gap in coverage that exists, which a 90-foot pole cannot do,
especially if you have to locate yourself 20 feet below that at only
70 feet. You would have to expand that tower. The light pole
obviously was intended to be able to blend in, if you will, to the
football field that was adjacent to it. It looks like a light pole with
antennas on top of it. It's not camouflaged. You can tell it's a cell
phone tower, but it is needed to be just as a light pole. The only
way to modify that would be increase its height by over 30 feet. It
would be 33 percent higher than it is now and on top of that is
another set of antennas. As a result, basically the whole purpose
that was behind it is ruined. Your own ordinance in having the
tower separation rule of half a mile is trying to limit the
intrusiveness of towers. It's trying to say, stay with the one tower
in that case. Well, this sort of flies in the opposite of that, and as
you can see from the information that was provided to you, Crown
Castle also was not willing to do the expense necessary to be
able to expand the tower. On top of that, Crown Castle's leased
property from the Livonia Public School system was inadequate
after you expand the size of the tower because the tower base
would have to get much, much larger in order to be taller and able
to handle the other equipment that would be put on it as well as
the lights. That would have to expand the compound as well and
the Livonia Public School system was not interested in that either.
So the bottom line out of this is that the existing facility, as much
as we would like to collocate, because it's a lot less expensive
generally, not in this case, but generally, it's a lot less expensive
to be able to collocate on an existing tower rather than build our
own. In this case, we're proposing to build what we have because
that location is serving a residential area. Our issue that we have
as a company is the fact that almost everything that we have to
cover now, the gaps in coverage as well as capacity issues, which
I'll discuss in a minute, is almost solely located in residential areas
now because so many people have abandoned their land lines in
favor of their cell phones. As of December of last year, the cell
phone is the primary means of phone communication in America.
More people have a cell phone only and no land line. And that
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number just keeps increasing. We're probably looking at some
point at the end of land lines as a primary means of
communication. In any event, the point is that you have this
particular use getting so high and beginning to concentrate,
especially in residential areas, especially with data, non-voice
use of the phone, that as a result, we have to try to find locations
that are in the middle of residential areas to service those
residential areas without actually going on a residential piece of
property, which is a looming feat. In this particular case, the
Livonia Public School, Churchill High School, was an ideal site
but adjacent to it was an equally ideal site, which was the
American Legion site. The American Legion site, as it's already
noted, is a commercially zoned piece of property, at least part of
it. We're going into the section that's zoned parking, but it's
servicing the commercial area. By locating it there, and on the
opposite side of where the greater concentration of residential is
located, we can keep it out and closer to the school location that
we were originally proposing. In that way we'll be able to satisfy
both the residential demand that's coming about and also it would
deal with locating it consistent with your ordinance and try to
locate it at a place where frankly it can serve residential but not
be residential. I mentioned capacity, and I think I'll talk about that
for a short period of time here, and then I'll end the presentation
and take any questions you may have. And again, the people in
the audience that we have with us can answer any of the more
technical questions that I can't. The coverage and capacity are
actually two different elements of a cell tower. The reason why
it's called a cell tower, I mean it's cellular meaning that every
single tower creates essentially a circular area around it and
everyone of those circular areas needs to link up with all the other
circular areas that are created by other towers. They can't
significantly overlap in their coverage areas because the area of
overlap creates a destructive interference between the two
existing towers if you do it that way. You can't leave a gap
between the two because that gap now becomes permanent. You
can't place a tower within the small gap because we'll create a
zone of destructive interference. So what you've got to do is link
these up like a honeycomb, like a jigsaw puzzle maybe, kind of
slide them in so that they fit nicely next to each other. That creates
a very small area where you can identify where you're going to
place a tower. But now, making it doubly difficult, is the fact that
we also have to deal with capacity issues. All of our existing
towers, all of them, are being taxed and over-taxed with regards
to their ability to handle the incoming signals. The amount of use
of cell phones, as I already mentioned, is rising exponentially,
especially the non-voice use, and the result of that is that
individual towers that already exist and which may have sufficient
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coverage are essentially winking out as they reach their capacity,
and even though they have a coverage zone like this, while
they're not working, that coverage zone is zero. So as a result,
you've got to place a tower nowadays so that it's not only covering
a coverage gap, but it's also got to be able to offload the duty, the
difficulties that the other towers in an area near it are having so
that it's performing some of the work that the other is not, which
even further limits where we can actually place them so they will
both match up and also be able to offload the capacity issues of
other existing towers. That's basically why we're at where we are.
It's sort of a bottom line out of this thing. T-Mobile was the original
owner of that football field tower. If that had been built to actually
accommodate someone else besides T-Mobile, we might have
been to go on that tower, but it was not built that way. It was clear
that once we got to the process, there's no conceivable way
anybody else could have placed something on that tower without
collapsing the structure. We're here now because we're trying to
rectify what was essentially an error on the part of T-Mobile when
they built the first one, and now we're trying to place a tower here
which will allow for collocation and is structurally capable of
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. LaBelle, and I'll just note in our packet we did
receive extensive information from you in regard to answering all
the provisions of our waiver use ordinance and also copies of the
coverage maps that you had. I appreciate that. Do we have
questions for our petitioner?
Ms. Smiley: My question is about the pole itself. The structure of it is such
though, you were starting to tell us, that it is not going to tip over
and cut the American Legion hall in half.
Mr. LaBelle: No, it's not. I mean there are really two elements to this. One is
how it's structurally designed. This tower in particular is
structurally designed to collapse at two points, so in other words
in thirds. So basically, 40 feet in each circumstance. What that
means is that the tower, if you look at a monopole, it looks a little
like one of those telescoping things. This does something similar.
In terms of its collapse points, it will in fact, if done correctly, will
collapse like this on itself or down within itself. One of two of those
circumstances. What it won't do is this. It will not fall over like a
tree. And that has been proven many times by virtue of both the
structural reports that we provided you as well as just simply out
in the field. The second reason why it's important to note here is
the fact that the towers don't fall. No Verizon monopole or
monopole built to Verizon's specifications has ever fallen. Many
of them have been hit by things like tornadoes and hurricanes.
They've been hit by vehicles and floods, etc. They've never come
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down. Right now, North Carolina is being beset by a hurricane.
All the towers are up; at least all the Verizon towers are up. Their
ability to be able to function and not fall over is actually a
significant element to the Department of Homeland Security,
which has identified the cell phone as the primary means, as the
first line of defense, if you will, with regard to national
emergencies, not necessarily terrorism, but anything, like for
example a hurricane. In those circumstances, for example when
Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, almost all the land lines were
inactive, and the cell phone towers were still operating. And
many, many people were able to be located, GPS, as well as
communicated with so they knew help was on the way. The first
responders in that area credited cell phones as saving lives.
Ninety-three percent of all calls to 911 come from a cell phone,
which is not terribly surprising. You have it on you and when you
have some kind of an emergency, you have it with you. It's a
safety device as much as a communication device nowadays.
Ms. Smiley: I don't doubt that, and I know from my own children and
grandchildren that they're never without a cell phone and they do
all kinds of stuff on them. It's not just for calling. It's for Internet;
it's for buying things. I mean it's multi-purpose.
Mr. LaBelle: It's essentially a small computer that's able to do a variety of
things. For business practices, businesses nowadays absolutely
rely on the cell phone as a means to be able to communicate with
their offices and customers, with their other employees and
management. It's an essential tool of business nowadays too.
Ms. Smiley: If we can come up with something to get people to stop using
them while they're driving, I'd really appreciate that.
Mr. LaBelle: We'll think about it someday about trying to create a lock
mechanism on it somehow that can identify you're going too fast.
Ms. Smiley: Especially on 96. I find it a little unnerving.
Mr. LaBelle: How many people you look over and you see them with their cell
phones? I understand.
Ms. Smiley: Are you going to show us your map?
Mr. LaBelle: Oh, sure. This is a map that's in your packets. This is the
coverage currently that we have. It is color coded for convenient
reference. This is actually the result of measured data. You can
see down here, it gives the megahertz levels and the decibel
levels that are reached by each one of these. It's actually
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measured data that results in this. Your basic result here is that if
it's green coverage, that's where you're going to get good
coverage from any location, from inside the building, outside a
building, just about any location within that area. The yellow is
spottier coverage so that now you're in a situation where if you're
in a building, for example, you're going to have more difficulty and
possibly not be able to get a signal. For example, right now when
I was in Livonia's library just a few minutes ago, I couldn't get a
signal because I was inside the building. Once I went outside, I
could. The areas of red are where you're going to get very spotty
coverage both inside and outside. And areas that are white, which
I don't think we have any in this circumstance, are basically no
coverage. In this case, the site that we're proposing nicely fills in
this area. On top of that, it's also going to deal with this and this
and that and that, which are existing towers that we have right
now, all of whom show exhausted sectors. The red is an
exhausted sector. The antennas are oriented so that they
broadcast in three different directions. They're called sectors.
And when a sector is exhausted, it means that it's receiving more
signals than it can handle. Many of these sectors, if they're not
there already, are getting there. As a result, this tower, located
where it is, is going to do a nice job with the coverage issue here
and also with the capacity issues of these towers.
Mr. Wilshaw: Any other questions?
Ms. McCue: Just to clarify for the lay person. There is a coverage issue right
now in that area. Correct?
Mr. LaBelle: Correct.
Ms. McCue: I'm assuming we take all the residential, we take the school. The
school does not help anything, would be my guess.
Mr. LaBelle: The school is significant.
Ms. McCue: In addition to all of the other things in regard to that area in that
neighborhood, this is going to increase cell phone coverage.
Mr. LaBelle: It will improve the cell phone coverage. That is correct. Mike can
give you the technical details of how that works out, but basically
Ms. McCue: That's okay. When it comes down to it, I think most people just
want to know, okay, is it going to help us.
Mr. LaBelle: Yes.
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Ms. McCue: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. LaBelle: It will not only help now, but in the future too. Where it's located
is going to help the coverage in that location but it's also going to
deal with the off-site and the capacity. So in the future as other
sectors start to get exhausted in those other zones,they'll actually
have help already.
Ms. McCue: It's certainly not going to reduce. Right?
Mr. LaBelle: No. Sort of a bottom line on all of this, we're not going to build a
tower and invest that kind of money unless we think it's going to
improve the coverage and we're going to get more customers.
Ms. McCue: One more question. I think you answered this the other day. Did
we ever decide why the school did not want to proceed?
Mr. LaBelle: You know, I went on online. You saw the email.
Ms. McCue: I did. I saw the email and . . .
Mr. LaBelle: It was terribly un-educating. It doesn't tell you exactly why they
decided not to do that or why they came to that conclusion. We
were not invited to the Board of Education's meeting so we don't
know what was actually said at that Board meeting. If you go
online and try to look up the minutes from the various board
meetings, that one is conspicuously missing. That particular one
I can't find it. I don't know. No conspiracy. I think it's just not there.
So I don't have any minutes to indicate why they came to that
conclusion.
Ms. McCue: What you have is what we have.
Mr. LaBelle: Right. That's all we know too.
Ms. McCue: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. LaBelle: We were very disappointed.
Mr. Long: I understand the poles are designed not to fall and if they do fall,
they are designed to crumple. How often are the poles inspected?
Do you look at them every five years, every ten years?
Mr. LaBelle: Every month.
Mr. Long: Every month?
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Mr. LaBelle: It is mentioned on the site plan that we gave you, the notes that
describe our visits. We'll send our engineers out to the site one
or two times a month for the purpose of checking on not only the
tower, but also to check on the equipment to make sure the
equipment is still functioning well. It's electronic sensitive
equipment so it needs that kind of checking. While they're there,
they also check on the tower. So it actually gets checked once a
month in terms of looking for stress fractures, loose nuts,
whatever.
Mr. Long: Super. Thank you.
Ms. Smiley: I'd like to hear from the American Legion and how they feel about
it. Would you come up to the microphone please?
Dan Newton, American Legion Post#32, 9318 Newburgh Road, Livonia, Michigan
48150. I happen to now be the club manager at the American
Legion. One of the club managers. We have two. I have been the
finance officer. Been there a long time. What questions do you
have? How do we feel about it?
Ms. Smiley: Yes. What's your take on this?
Mr. Newton: We're happy to have. We have no problem with it whatsoever.
Ms. Smiley: That's what I wanted to hear.
Mr. Newton: Yeah. We have no problem. Our Executive Board has approved
this. Back in 2015 it approved the building and it also now
approves the whole thing.
Ms. Smiley: Thank you very much and thanks for coming and thanks for your
service.
Mr. Newton: Thank you. Any other questions?
Mr. Wilshaw: Any other questions for Mr. Newton? It doesn't look like it.
Mr. Newton: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, sir. Any other questions from the Commission?
Mr. Caramagno: I apologize. I missed the study session. I was out of town. I'm
assuming that this a long-term lease of that property for this
tower? How long of a term is that?
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Mr. LaBelle: The total term is 25 years. It's five years initial term with four five-
year options to expand. They're automatically exercised unless
we decide to go away. It's extremely rare that we don't get to the
end of a term. I've had lots more work trying to extend these 25-
year terms than I do trying to replace them.
Mr. Caramagno: I think I saw this provision. If the lease should end, to take the
pole down. There's provisions in there to make sure the monies
are there to make sure that comes down.
Mr. LaBelle: In the actual lease itself, it compels us to take and restore the
premises to its original condition. We leave the pylon in the
ground. That was the thing that anchors. That's the reason why it
doesn't fall. There's a very large pylon there. We will leave that in
there, but other than that, we'll remove everything else and
restore the premises to its original condition once we leave. I think
your ordinance also has a requirement for us to do that as well. I
think it's 180 days non-use. At that point, we have to take it down
ourselves even if our lease didn't require it.
Mr. Caramagno: Is there a generator in this fenced-in property as well that supplies
power to this thing?
Mr. LaBelle: Yes, there is.
Mr. Caramagno: Okay. How much time is left on the lease with the school? Do
you know from Crown?
Mr. LaBelle: From Crown?
Mr. Caramagno: Yes. How much time is left?
Mr. LaBelle: Claudine, do you know? Claudine deals specifically with Crown
Castle. That's why we have both of them here tonight. Do you
know how long their lease runs? I don't think we ever got that far.
Since we could never get to the physical structure and get that
together, they actually never shared the lease data.
Mr. Caramagno: I guess part of the reason for that question was, is there potential
that the lease would be coming due and then T-Mobile could jump
on your pole?
Mr. LaBelle: I can't speak to what our competitors are going to do, but there's
a strong possibility. Yes. I can't speak to the specifics because I
don't have the lease, but more than likely, leasing from us will be
less expensive than leasing from Crown Castle. That's typically
true. One of the things that I mentioned at the study session that
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you were not at, was that the Federal Telecommunications Act,
the thing that created the FCC in the first place, has a bunch of
provisions in it. Some are related to zoning. But the one relevant
to tonight is the fact that it requires every single one of the parties
who receive a license to broadcast transmissions on their towers.
You cannot just say no. You have to allow them. So T-Mobile has
to allow us on their towers and we have to allow them on ours.
We're required to do that. So as a result, we all put together
master leasing agreements with each other a long time ago that
are already in place with a fixed price structure.
Mr. Caramagno: That's provided that the height provides you with what you need?
Mr. LaBelle: Right. I mean, there are ways to get around that obviously, as T-
Mobile showed us this time, but basically, the bottom line is that
we are required to do it in this case, and we built this structure
capable of dealing with collocators. We can get a total of three on
there for sure and we can probably get the fourth on there easily
depending upon their equipment. It depends on the size of their
equipment, what it's wind load is, etc.
Mr. Caramagno: Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: One comment, Mr. Caramagno, that we talked about at our study
meeting was that, because this is a 120 foot tower, it's taller than
the existing tower that T-Mobile is on, so it's likely that if they
chose to move just a few hundred feet over to this tower, that they
would find a height that would be acceptable to them give what
they currently have. I think that was a comment made at the study
meeting.
Mr. LaBelle: Again, we don't know our competitor's actual propagation maps
and what works for them and how they do that or their antennas.
But as a general matter, we have had the experience that we get
their first typically. We build the tower. They let us build the tower
because we have to bill the capital cost as a result, and then they
collocate on our towers after we're there. It's a good business
decision actually if you think about it, but it does mean you've got
to come second, which means you'll also be lower, but in this
particular case, T-Mobile has the advantage of actually getting
higher this time by going onto our site, and that makes a
difference as far as the propagation of your coverage zone.
Mr. Wilshaw: Do we have any other questions for our petitioner? Any others
from the Commission? I don't see any. We'll go to the audience.
Sir?
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Mohammad Abd-Elsalam, 37264 Blake, Livonia, Michigan. I live in Kingston
Village, which is adjacent to the north of the Legion. I have
actually a few questions and also I want to indicate that the
neighborhood, we are against building the tower in that area for
many reasons. I'm going to state a few of those because I cannot
remember every discussion we had with the neighborhood. One
of the things that I'm hoping that Verizon will actually explain, one
of these concerns that we have. One of them is the microwave
generated from all these towers and area and the impact that
these towers would have on our students and our children in the
neighborhood. As you are well aware, adjacent to Churchill High
School and there's another tower on Churchill High School, and
all these children are underdeveloped, their brains are
underdeveloped. More important, we have also an elementary
school just two-tenths of a mile from the where the tower is going
to be. All these elementary schools, I mean, they are young
children. I read many studies from those microwaves to see the
impact on people and on children. Plenty of these studies indicate
that they will have an impact on them with headaches, sometimes
maybe, I don't know other things they will have. Maybe Verizon
can provide us. The other thing that we are concerned about,
because many studies that I read, they are concerned about the
decline in property values where all these towers are located if
they are exposed and close to a residential area. Up to 20% of
the property values. Now, the other concern that we have when
you build the structure in that area and on the Legion's parking
lot, the Legion have, during the summer months, they have a car
show. That parking lot would take about 600 to 800 feet, the
structure, from that parking lot. That would also make it difficult
for people to park at the Legion during the summer months and
with the encroachment on our properties that it would have
because the first two or three years, when we first built in 1999, it
used to be a cat and dog fight with the visitors to the Legion that
we have to ask people to leave our property. They used to come
and leave their cars on the street. Our street is too small. You are
well aware of it. We cannot even pass. People just have no
concern. They come and park in our driveways. They go party for
three, four, five hours. We don't know where these people are.
So we used to block our driveways, the entrance to the area, then
we finally come to peaceful resolution with the Legion, but I am
concerned and we are concerned in that area that when the
parking lot becomes smaller, that these things will happen again.
All these concerns I would like to state that we are opposed.
Besides, the tower is going to 120 feet. I am a mechanical
engineer. Talking about collapsing this way is very hard even
though with all the engineering to collapse on itself. That is very
hard. It would collapse to the street. It will block Newburgh at least
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in that area. It might collapse on the property that's adjacent to
the Legion also to the south. There are dangers with these high
towers being in the neighborhood to people, to the street, to the
property. More importantly, Livonia right now leasing that
property on Churchill High School for the other tower, once that
120-foot tower goes up, the other company most likely will leave
and Livonia Schools will lose also that revenue from leasing that
tower. So there's a combination of many things that we are
opposed to. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you. I appreciate that. We have some questions that you
had posed for Verizon. I will pass those along and we'll try to get
some answers for you. Mr. LaBelle, we heard the resident speak
about the radiation, which is an issue we've heard in past cellular
tower issues. I think you have some engineers here that maybe
will speak to that.
Mr. LaBelle: A little bit. I've got five items that he mentioned, so I'll start with
the health one. As I mentioned, there's a Telecommunication Act.
That is an Act that does, in fact, limit local zoning and what it can
consider with regard to a tower. One of the things that it does, in
fact, as I'm about to quote, "no state or local government or
instrumentality thereof may regulate the placement, construction
and modification of personal wireless service facilities on the
basis of the environmental effects of radio frequency emissions
to the extent that such facilities comply with the FCC regulations
concerning such emissions." We didn't provide it to you, but we
can. We're literally thousands of times below the FCC's emission
limits. Basically, the initial answer to the question is that it's just
not a factor that this Commission can consider. Local
governments are not allowed to consider that as part of the
process. But the reason why is because of what just happened.
We cited some unnamed source that said there is going to be
horrible effects, and you folks don't have resources to review and
consider competing studies and that kind of thing. The FCC and
the federal government does. The FCC has on its website, and
you can go to it, a link, to a ton of studies that would literally go
up to here if we printed them all out, which go through the
question of the effect of towers. And if you think the FCC has a
bias in this thing or you think we do, then go to the American
Cancer Society on their website. They also have a link to their
own study with regard to the effects of cell phone towers, and
their conclusion is, there's no effect. And the reason why they go
into great detail about this, I won't, but I'll just take you to that
thing, but the reason is because of some of the misconceptions.
The first misconception is what radiation is. When we think of
radiation, we think of the stuff— x-rays and things that are going
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to hurt you. Radiation is simply a wave that propagates out from
a point source. If I throw a pebble in a pond, that's radiation
because it creates ripples and those are radiation. The question
is whether it's harmful radiation, and that basically falls into two
categories, something called ionizing radiation or non-ionizing
radiation. Ionizing radiation is the stuff that hurts human tissue,
and that's what you find in things like x-rays, gamma rays, and
those types of things. They, in fact, do harm tissue. What we
produce is radio waves. It's the same stuff that comes out of your
radio, the thing that comes out of your wireless router, things that
come out of your cell phone that you're holding in your hand. The
only difference between what those things do and what the tower
does is that these are producing it at thousands of time the
strength that the tower itself is doing. The tower is 120 feet up in
the air. By the time that signal reaches the ground, it's very
minimal. It's not even a high voltage production that used for
purposes of putting a tower up. Bottom line is that, this is similar
to the kind of radio frequencies that we've all been dealing with
since Marconi established the radio back 150 years ago. So
bottom line out of this is that reputable sources, third parties who
don't have any axe to grind like the American Cancer Society,
concluded it doesn't have any effect, and that's borne out by the
fact of this particular statute saying you really shouldn't be
considering that. One thing I'll also note here is, the gentleman
mentioned microwaves frequently. We don't emit microwaves.
They're radio waves. There was a time when there were
microwave dish antennas up there. Not anymore. The only thing
we use microwaves now for, if we ever use them, is in order to be
able to connect the towers by microwave emission. That's wholly
at that higher level. In this case, it will be done by a fiber optic
cable, buried fiber optic cables. We won't even have microwaves
on this one at all. It creates radio waves only. The second item
that was mentioned was property value. I'll read you another
section of the Telecommunication Act. I know every one of you
has heard this before but just to get it on record: "The regulation
of the placement, construction and modification of personal
wireless service facilities by any state or local government or
instrumentality thereof, shall not prohibit or have the effect of
prohibiting the provision of personal wireless services." The
question here in terms of an effective prohibition means that if
you can see it, then it can't go there. That's an effective
prohibition. In terms of the process, your ordinance is set up with
acknowledgment of this. It says collocate first if you can, and if
you can't, then if you demonstrate to us that you can't, as we've
done in this case, then we put up a tower instead at a different
location. We do everything we can, as we have in this case, to
keep it as far away from process as we can. The gentleman lives
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to the north. We've put it on the far southern boundary. We're
going to have to get a variance or waiver with regard to setback
to the south because of the fact we took it so far to the south and
slid it as far back as we can get it for that process. That's part of
the reason why we do it. And from the standpoint of saying that
it's going to reduce property values, in actuality, and I'll give you
the study in a few moments, which is actually a compilation of
studies. There actually is little or no effect at all on property values
when a cell tower is built in the area. I know that does sound
counterintuitive, but if you think about the example for a minute,
you understand why. If you talk to a realtor, for example, a realtor
will say that the first thing that the young couples do when they
walk into the house that they're going to be buying for the first
time is flip their phones open and find out if they work. The
connectivity is one of the highest, if not the highest, measure of a
party looking for property nowadays. I take it back to the days
when telephones were first being established. And somebody
who wanted telephone service had to have poles out there, a lot
of them, with wires going across it and they filled up the
landscape. And the same kind of concerns were created then
about I don't want to look at poles, etc. But the advantage to being
able to have a telephone in your home so outweighed the effect
there, that people got used to it. It was part of a suburban/urban
landscape. That's what happened here too. That's why these
studies come to the conclusion, and I can provide you with a copy
of the study, which is a compilation of 16 different studies that
were done across the United States, all of which came to the
same conclusion, little or no effect on the value of property. But
the more important answer out of this is that if it were simply a
matter of you can see it, it's going to reduce my property value,
therefore you can't put it there, that's an effective prohibition. So
we do our best to try to limit the effect of a tower. We try
everything we can to make sure it both deals with this issue, but
at the same time deals with your ordinance, and at the same time
tries to keep it as unobtrusive as it can be.With all of those factors
in mind, we have to deal with it. And by the way, you're only one
of 24 agencies that we have to get approval from to put up one
tower, and we have to deal with all their issues too to go along
with it. The fact that we're right near a set of trees is going to
create an issue for us from the Endangered Species Act because
the Indiana bat probably could roost there, and therefore we can't
build at certain times of the year. There's things like that that
come about for us and that we have to deal with, and it all affects
where we site these towers. We do our best to make it as
unobtrusive as we possibly can. It's part of the reason why we
use a monopole. It's a limited profile. It has no guide wires. It' not
a trestle. It's not painted an absurd color. It's gun metal gray and
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it stays that way. It's a noncorrosive material, and sorry, we live
in Michigan. Gun metal gray actually does blend into the air better
than painted blue sky, which we tried at first. It didn't work. The
next item that was mentioned was about parking, that we were
going to eliminate a huge amount of parking. I think that was from
a misconception of how big our site is. Our site is only 20 by 38
feet. It's taking two parking spaces. The facility still meets the
parking requirement of the City of Livonia, even with the loss of
those two spaces. So it's still within the requirements for that
purpose. The question of collapse data. All I can tell you is that
we've done studies. We've even blown one of them up to see
whether or not it would collapse the way we wanted it to, and it
did. The process here is one that has been engineer-tested and
you've got the certification from our structural engineer. Finally,
we talked about when T-Mobile leaves the other site and comes
to our site that Livonia Public Schools is going to lose the
revenue. Well, they possibly can, but they didn't have to. They're
the ones that told us no. We wanted to put it on their property. So
if they're losing revenue, sorry, but they frankly have no one else
to blame but themselves. We tried to give them money.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. LaBelle, for a very comprehensive answer to each
of the issues raised by the resident. Do we have any other
questions for our petitioner?There is no one else in the audience.
We'll close the public hearing. A motion is in order.
On a motion by McCue, seconded by Smiley, and unanimously adopted, it was
#09-62-2018 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on September 18, 2018, on
Petition 2018-07-02-17 submitted by TeleSite Wireless, on behalf
of Verizon Wireless, requesting waiver use approval pursuant to
Section 18.42A of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as
amended, to erect a wireless communication support structure
(120-foot-high monopole) and construct a supporting equipment
shelter in the southeast corner of the American Legion property
at 9318 Newburgh Road, located on the east side of Newburgh
Road between Joy Road and Ann Arbor Trail in the Southwest '
of Section 32, which property is zoned C-2, P and RUF, the
Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City
Council that Petition 2018-07-02-17 be approved subject to the
following conditions:
1. That a wireless communication support structure at this
location shall be permitted only under the circumstances
that the Zoning Ordinance standard set forth in Section
18.42A(d)1.b. requiring new wireless communication
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support structures to be located at least one-half (%) mile
from any existing wireless communication support
structures is waived by the City Council;
2. That the Site Plan Detail, Pole & Cabinet Elevation and
General Notes Plan marked Sheet 1 of Job No. 94044-
1247B prepared by Midwestern Consulting, dated July 9,
2018, as revised, is hereby approved and shall be adhered
to;
3. That the Equipment Elevation Views Plan marked Sheet 2
of Job No. 94044-1247B prepared by Midwestern
Consulting, dated July 9, 2018, as revised, is hereby
approved and shall be adhered to;
4. That the total overall height of the monopole, measured to
the topmost point of the antennas and other apparatus, shall
not exceed 122 feet;
5. That the monopole support structure and ground compound
area be designed and constructed to accommodate no less
than three (3) sets of antenna arrays;
6. That no signs or advertising shall be placed on or upon any
part of the structure or facility that is visible from Newburgh
Road;
7. That the specific plans referenced in this approving
resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department
at the time the building permits are applied for; and.
8. Pursuant to Section 19.10 of Ordinance #543, the Zoning
Ordinance of the City of Livonia, this approval is valid for a
period of ONE YEAR ONLY from the date of approval by
City Council, and unless a building permit is obtained, this
approval shall be null and void at the expiration of said
period.
Subject to the preceding conditions, this petition is approved for
the following reasons:
1. That the proposed use complies with all of the special and
general waiver use standards and requirements as set forth
in Sections 18.42A and 19.06 of the Zoning Ordinance#543.
2. That the subject site has the capacity to accommodate the
proposed use; and
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3. That the proposed use is compatible to and in harmony with
the surrounding uses in the area.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 19.05 of
Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution.
ITEM #3 PETITION 2018-08-02-18 COMFORT CARE
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Petition 2018-
08-02-18 submitted by Comfort Care Senior Living requesting
waiver use approval pursuant to Section 9.03(g) of the City of
Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, in connection with
a proposal to construct and operate a senior assisted living facility
at 34020 Plymouth Road, located on the north side of Plymouth
Road between Farmington and Stark Roads in the Southeast 1/4
of Section 28.
Mr. Taormina: This is a request to construct and operate a senior assisted living
facility on property that is on the north side of Plymouth Road
between Farmington and Stark Roads. This property is a T-
shaped parcel that has 142 feet of frontage along Plymouth Road
and an average depth of 650 feet. The site is 3.8 acres in size
and is currently vacant. Adjacent land uses and zoning include
immediately to the east, the Social Security Administration Office
which is zoned C-2, General Business. Further to the east of that
site is OHM's headquarters. Immediately to the west is the Black
Label Tavern, zoned C-2, General Commercial, and there is
similar zoning as you move further west including Zerbo's Health
Foods and Procam. Immediately to the north of this site are single
family homes that are under the R-5 single family zoning. The
property itself presently contains three zoning classifications. The
southerly part is zoned C-2, General Business. Immediately to
the north of that is an area zoned C-1, Local Business, and then
the northwest corner of the property is zoned RUF, Rural Urban
Farm. There is a pending petition that would rezone the entire site
to OS, Office Services. It is the OS Office Services district that
would allow convalescent and nursing homes and homes for the
elderly permitted as a waiver use subject to the conditions set
forth in Section 9.03(g) of the Zoning Ordinance. That pending
zoning petition was given First Reading by City Council on June
18, and Second Reading and Roll Call on the zoning change,
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which is the final step in this rezoning process, are on hold
pending a review of this site plan. The land area requirement to
develop a senior assisted living facility on OS zoned property is a
minimum of one acre plus 500 square feet per bed. The facility
that is proposed on this site would contain a total of 64 beds
requiring a minimum land area of 1.73 acres. This site is 3.8 acres
so the subject site contains sufficient land area for the density that
is proposed. The building would be one story in height and 53,600
square feet in size. It would be located on the northerly portion of
the site set back roughly 370 feet from Plymouth Road. The
complex would contain 64 beds overall. This includes a mix of 23
studio units, 27 one-bedroom units, 4 two-bedroom units and 10
memory care units. There are additional amenities that are shown
on the floor plan for the building, including an ice cream shop,
some communal living and dining areas as well as a theater,
beauty shop, staff laundry, break rooms and then there are three
outdoor courtyards that are shown within the confines of the
building. The building abuts residential along the north side. The
minimum setback is 15 feet and the plans show that the building
would be at the minimum setback of 15 feet. Another requirement
is that the percentage of useable floor area as a percentage of lot
area cannot exceed 45 percent. In this case, the floor area within
the building occupies a total of 31.7 percent of the site, so it is
below the maximum threshold of 45 percent. Also, in terms of
parking, the ordinance requires one space for every three beds,
plus one space for each employee. In this case, the facility would
require a total of 39 parking spaces. The plan presented this
evening shows a total of 51 parking spaces that would be
available to both residents and employees and visitors and thus
would meet the zoning ordinance requirements. Submitted plans
also provide details on the construction of the building. These are
the rendered elevation views of the building. Again, you'll notice
that this is a single-story structure. The materials on the outside
of the building primarily consist of brick, Hardie siding as well as
E.I.F.S. and some stone. The roof would be a peak design,
asphalt shingled and the maximum height as illustrated would be
24.5 feet. Going back to the site plan, there is a single dumpster
location that is shown in the southeast corner of the main parking
lot. This enclosure would contain seven-foot high screen walls.
Those are shown as wood presently and that is something that
the ordinance does not allow. They would have to be constructed
out of a masonry material to surround the trash with proper gates.
Light poles shown on the site plan would be slightly taller than
what the ordinance allows. Our policy is that the lighting be limited
to a height of 20 feet as measured from the ground surface. In
this case, they are 22.5 feet so there would have to be a slight
adjustment to the height of the lighting. Landscaping overall as a
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percentage of green space on the site would equal 30 percent.
However, the landscape materials as illustrated on the plan
appear to be deficient. This is an issue that will be addressed in
a letter provided by the PRDA, but it is one of the concerns that
was expressed at not only the PRDA board meeting involving this
project, but also at the Planning Commission study session.
There is a rather large storm water detention basin that would be
constructed as part of this development. The basin would not only
be equipped to handle the stormwater from this site, but it would
include the adjacent site of the Social Security Administration
building. The reason for this is the site overall at one time included
not only this property but also the Social Security Administration
building. When the Social Security Administration building was
constructed, the stormwater detention basin for that site was
actually located on this property. That would be removed as part
of the redevelopment. So in doing that, they would have to
provide sufficient capacity or replace the stormwater capacity for
that building as well as provide it for this building. That basin is
shown along the eastern side of the driveway leading to the
building. The driveway is on the west side of the site's frontage
along Plymouth Road and the stormwater detention basin is
shown immediately to the east of that between the proposed
driveway and the Social Security Administration building. Another
major component to the review is how this site relates to the
residential properties. There is a requirement that a minimum
five-foot high masonry screen wall be provided along the property
lines separating the non-residential zoning district from the
residential zoning district. There is presently a wall that extends
along a portion of the north property line where it abuts
residential. The plans show the extension of the wall all the way
to the northwest corner of the property; however, extending about
300 feet further to south where this site abuts a residential zoned
property, there is no wall shown. So that's something that would
have to be addressed as well. There are no details with respect
to signs. They would be allowed one free-standing monument
sign that could be 30 square feet in area, six feet in height and
setback at least 10 feet from Plymouth Road. This too was an
item that was addressed by the PRDA. Its recommendation to the
Planning Commission is to consider the plan as it relates to
landscaping and other features along Plymouth Road. I'll read
that letter from the PRDA in a minute if you'll allow me to read out
the correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, please. There are a number of items I believe.
Mr. Taormina: There are several items of correspondence. The first item is from
the Engineering Division, dated August 24, 2018, which reads as
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follows: "In accordance with your request, the Engineering
Division has reviewed the above referenced petition. We have no
objections to the proposed waiver use at this time. The existing
parcel is assigned the address of#34020 Plymouth Road. The
legal description provided with the petition appears to be correct
and should be used in conjunction with the proposed rezoning.
The submitted drawings do indicate proposed connections for
sanitary, storm and water services to the building. Along with the
required City of Livonia permits, MDOT permits will be needed for
any work within the Plymouth Road right-of-way, and Wayne
County permits will be required for the proposed Storm Sewer
connection. The submitted drawings indicate storm water
detention will be provided along the southeasterly portion of the
property. In addition, the proposed construction will relocate the
existing storm detention pond for the abutting Social Security
Administration building to create one combined pond.
Calculations are not provided, but the new detention pond will
need to have enough capacity to detain storm flows from not only
the proposed construction, but the existing abutting Social
Security Administration development. Permits for the detention
will need to be approved by Wayne County, since the outlet for
the pond is owned by the County. Also, with the existing pond
being relocated, the owner will need to have the existing
easements (parking, storm detention) covering that corner of the
property vacated." The letter is signed by David W. Lear, P.E.,
Assistant City Engineer. The second letter is from the Livonia Fire
& Rescue Division, dated September 6, 2018, which reads as
follows: "This office has reviewed the site plan submitted in
connection with a request to construct and operate an assisted
living facility on property located at the above referenced
address. We have no objections to this proposal with the following
stipulations: (1) Subject building(s) are to be provided with an
automatic sprinkler system, and on-site hydrant shall be located
between 50 feet and 100 feet from the Fire Department
Connection (FDC). (2) Access around building shall be provided
for emergency vehicles such that any portion of the facility first
floor is not located more than 150 feet from a fire department
access road. (3) Hydrant spacing shall be consistent with City of
Livonia Ordinances. One hydrant will be dedicated to the FDC
within 50- 100 ft. (4) Nursing homes shall be protected throughout
by an approved, supervised automatic sprinkler system in
accordance to NFPA 1 and 101. (5) A fire access road shall be
provided with not less than 20 feet of unobstructed width and
have a minimum of 13 feet 6 inches of vertical clearance under
an overhang or canopy. (6) Fire lanes shall be marked with wall
or pole mounted signs that have the words: FIRE LANE — NO
PARKING painted on both sides (for pole mount) or single sided
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(for wall mount) in contrasting colors at a size and spacing
approved by the authority having jurisdiction. (7) Knox Box
installation is required for Fire Department access. (8) CO2
detection required for beverage distribution systems and coolers
if tank/tanks are 100 lbs. or greater. (9) FDC shall be on the
address side of the building with no obstructions. (10) These
issues and other code requirements will be addressed during the
plan review process. (11) The turning radius of a fire department
access road shall be approved by the AHJ (authority having
jurisdiction) including under the canopy."The letter is signed by
Keith Bo, Fire Marshal. The third letter is from the Division of
Police, dated August 28, 2018, which reads as follows: "I have
reviewed the plans in connection with the petition. I have no
objections to the proposal." The letter is signed by Brian Leigh,
Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The next letter is from the Treasurer's
Department, dated August 20, 2018, which reads as follows: "In
accordance with your request, the Treasurer's Office has
reviewed the address connected with the above noted petition. At
this time, there are no outstanding amounts receivable for taxes.
Therefore, I have no objections to the proposal." The letter is
signed by Lynda Scheel, Treasurer. The next letter is from the
Finance Department, dated August 22, 2018, which reads as
follows: "I have reviewed the addresses connected with the
above noted petition. As there are no outstanding amounts
receivable, general or water and sewer, I have no objections to
the proposal." The letter is signed by Coline Coleman, Chief
Accountant. The next letter is from the Plymouth Road
Development Authority, dated September 7, 2018, which reads
as follows: "At the 251st Regular Meeting of the Plymouth Road
Development Authority of the City of Livonia held on September
6, 2018, the following resolution was unanimously adopted:
#2018-08 RESOLVED, that the Plymouth Road Development
Authority does hereby support the proposed plans as presented
by Comfort Care Senior Living requesting waiver use approval
pursuant to Section 9.03(g) of the City of Livonia Zoning
Ordinance #543, as amended, to construct and operate a senior
assisted living facility at 34020 Plymouth Road, located on the
north side of Plymouth Road between Farmington and Stark
Roads in the Southeast 4 of Section 28, subject to compliance
with all City codes and ordinances and the Plymouth Road
Development streetscape goals and objectives, as such may be
modified by the action of the Planning Commission and City
Council, with further consideration to be given to the following
items: (1) Entrance landscaping; (2) Enhancement of the storm
water detention pond with vegetation; (3) Signage; (4) Parking;
and (5) Easements to be consistent with adjacent properties."
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The letter is signed by Mark Taormina, Planning and Economic
Development Director.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any questions of the Planning Director? Seeing none,
our petitioner is here. We will need your name and address for
the record please.
Doug Boehm, Comfort Care Senior Living, 4180 Tittabawassee, Saginaw,
Michigan 48604. Would you like background on the company or
just go straight into Mark's comments? How would you like me to
proceed?
Mr. Wilshaw: It's certainly your presentation, but I think we have a pretty good
idea of the background of the company at this point.
Mr. Boehm: Okay. Perfect. At the study meeting exactly one week ago today,
I received a letter that the Fire Marshal had a couple comments
regarding fire access roads, sprinkler systems, and so forth. We
took those into account and gave a call to Mr. Bo at the Fire
Department. The very next day he was at a conference for the
next two days but we were able to reach him on Friday and then
Monday. We couldn't resolve the issue regarding the access road
around the building because currently there is only a 15 foot
setback between the property line and the building, and the Fire
Marshal is requesting a 20 foot road which would go over the
property line. So we're trying to find ways to resolve issues with
regard to fire or safety of the residents. We'll be meeting with
them hopefully next week as well as the building inspector. So
that kind of put a halt on some things regarding the landscaping
of the detention pond because we're not really sure if that's going
to be the exact location or not after we make the submitted
changes of the site plan due to the Fire Marshal's request.
Sprinkler system, I mean, that's very ordinary for us, and we're
just kind of working on the Fire Marshal's request right now.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Boehm. Is there any questions for our
petitioner?
Ms. Smiley: My question is, this is not skilled care. This is assisted living?
Mr. Boehm: Correct.
Ms. Smiley: So everybody's pretty much ambulatory?
Mr. Boehm: Yep. At that point, they're not driving anymore. They may be
stricken with illness that causes a disability in their life that they
need assistance, whether it's grooming, changing, feeding.
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There's actually a need for 790 assisted living beds in the City of
Livonia. We're only requesting a small portion of those. We were
actually told 72 beds would make it very sufficient enough for the
City, but with the layout of the land, we were only able to put 64
in there. With the changes, we could be even lower than that. So
we're working with the Fire Marshal to address those issues.
Ms. Smiley: That brings me back to if they are ambulatory. Most of them are.
Couldn't you make it a two-story building? That would give you a
lot more property to deal with. Secondly, the landscaping. I don't
have an updated landscaping plan. Have you had a chance to
meet with the landscaper?
Mr. Boehm: Correct. We addressed it with our engineer, but we're going to
wait until we've reconfigured the building. In regard to a two-story,
the State of Michigan does allow a two-story facility, but we don't
touch it with a ten-foot pole. The risk versus reward is just not
beneficial for us especially with elevators, fires, generators.
Anything could happen and getting bed-ridden residents
downstairs is not an easy task.
Ms. Smiley: Well, then, most of them are bed-ridden. Is that what you're telling
me?
Mr. Boehm: Yes.
Ms. Smiley: So they're not ambulatory.
Mr. Boehm: Correct. Yes.
Ms. Smiley: But they don't require any kind of skilled nursing?
Mr. Boehm: Correct.
Ms. Smiley: I misunderstood you. I thought they were ambulatory. Thank you.
Ms. McCue: We haven't gone anywhere with the signage, right?
Mr. Boehm: Correct. There's a company out of Brighton that I've reached out
to. They do our signs down in the Metro Detroit area and they're
coming up with a sign that I should have readily available in the
upcoming days.
Ms. Smiley: It doesn't feel like we're ready to do anything tonight. We have no
landscaping. They don't know where they're going with the pond
or the Fire Department issues. Should we give them some time
and table this?
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Mr. Wilshaw: A tabling motion is always in order, realizing that if we do that, it
will end discussion. I don't know if you want to give an opportunity
for everybody to speak first.
Ms. Smiley: I won't do it right now. Let everybody else ask their questions.
Mr. Wilshaw: Very good. Any other questions for our petitioner?
Mr. Caramagno: I'm good. It seems like there's a lot of loose ends for a lot of
questions.
Mr. Wilshaw: Of course, this is a public hearing. Is there anybody in the
audience that wishes to speak for or against this item? Seeing
no one in the audience, I will close the public hearing and ask for
a motion.
Mr. Boehm: I'm sorry for all the loose ends that aren't in the site plan, but we
were made aware of these issues just five business days ago.
That's the reason for the loose ends. We turned in the site plan
about a month and two weeks ago. We were just now made
aware of these issues so that's the cause and we'll be able to fix
them hopefully by the October 2 or 16 meeting.
Mr. Wilshaw: We do have a number of deficiencies in the current plan. There
is no other discussion. A motion is in order.
On a motion by Smiley, seconded by Long, and unanimously adopted, it was
#09-63-2018 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on September 18, 2018, on
Petition 2018-08-02-18 submitted by Comfort Care Senior Living
requesting waiver use approval pursuant to Section 9.03(g) of the
City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, in
connection with a proposal to construct and operate a senior
assisted living facility at 34020 Plymouth Road, located on the
north side of Plymouth Road between Farmington and Stark
Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 28, which property is zoned
RUF, C-1 and C-2 and is in the process of being rezoned to OS,
the Planning Commission does hereby table this item October 16,
2018.
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
September 18, 2018
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ITEM #4 APPROVAL OF MINUTES 1,128TH Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Approval of
the Minutes of the 1,128th Public Hearings and Regular Meeting
held on August 21, 2018.
On a motion by McCue, seconded by Smiley, and unanimously adopted, it was
#09-64-2018 RESOLVED, that the Minutes of 1,128th Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting held by the Planning Commission on August 21,
2018, are hereby approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: McCue, Smiley, Long, Caramagno, Wilshaw
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Ventura
ABSTAIN: None
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 1,129th Public
Hearings and Regular Meeting held on September 18, 2018, was adjourned at
8:55 p.m.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
am Caramagno, Sec ry rtit-
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ATTEST: '
Ian Wilshaw, Chairman