HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 2018-06-26 MINUTES OF THE 1,125th PUBLIC HEARINGS AND REGULAR MEETING
HELD BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, June 26, 2018, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia
held its 1,125th Public Hearings and Regular Meeting in the Livonia City Hall, 33000
Civic Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. Ian Wilshaw, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Membersp resent: Sam Caramagno Glen Long Betsy McCue
Carol Smiley Kevin Priddy Peter Ventura
Ian Wilshaw
Members absent: None
Mr. Mark Taormina, Planning Director, and Ms. Margie Watson, Program
Supervisor, were also present.
Chairman Wilshaw informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda
involves a rezoning request, this Commission makes a recommendation to the City
Council who, in turn, will hold its own public hearing and make the final
determination as to whether a petition is approved or denied. The Planning
Commission holds the only public hearing on a request for preliminary plat and/or
vacating petition. The Commission's recommendation is forwarded to the City
Council for the final determination as to whether a plat is accepted or rejected. If a
petition requesting a waiver of use or site plan approval is denied tonight, the
petitioner has ten days in which to appeal the decision, in writing, to the City
Council. Resolutions adopted by the City Planning Commission become effective
seven (7) days after the date of adoption. The Planning Commission and the
professional staff have reviewed each of these petitions upon their filing. The staff
has furnished the Commission with both approving and denying resolutions, which
the Commission may, or may not, use depending on the outcome of the
proceedings tonight.
ITEM #1 PETITION 2018-05-02-12 WADE SHOWS
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda, Petition 2018-
05-02-12 submitted by Wade Shows, Inc. requesting waiver use
approval pursuant to Section 11.03(1) of the City of Livonia Zoning
Ordinance#543, as amended, to conduct a carnival in the parking
lot of Sears, sponsored by the Rotary Club of Livonia, consisting
of amusement rides, games and food concessions from August
9, 2018, through August 12, 2018, inclusive, on property at 29500
Seven Mile Road, located on the northwest corner of Seven Mile
Road and Middlebelt Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 2.
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Mr. Taormina: The Rotary Club and Wade Shows are proposing their second
carnival for the 2018 season. This would be conducted in the
parking lot of Sears at Seven Mile and Middlebelt Roads. The
earlier event this year occurred in the month of May for a duration
of 11 days. The length of this carnival would be four days, running
from Thursday, August 8 through Sunday, August 12. The hours
of operation are as follows: Thursday and Friday from 4:00 p.m.
to 11:00 p.m., and on the weekends, Saturday and Sunday from
12:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. All other aspects of the event, including
location, size, storage, etc., are the same as the previous event.
With that, Mr. Chairman, I can read out the departmental
correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, please.
Mr. Taormina: There are six items of correspondence. The first item is from the
Engineering Division, dated June 8, 2018, which reads as follows:
"In accordance with your request, the Engineering Division has
reviewed the above referenced waiver use approval request. The
address of 29500 Seven Mile Road is correct for the subject
parcel and should be used in connection with this petition. The
legal description on file with the Assessing Department is
sufficient to describe the parcel for this petition. We have no
objections to the proposed petition, although the following items
should be noted: (1) Should the carnival have the need to occupy,
or should any of the associated activities impact either of the
Seven Mile Road or Middlebelt Road right-of-way, a permit from
Wayne County will be required as both roads are under their
jurisdiction. (2) All sanitary sewage from the site, recreational
vehicles or campers shall be disposed of properly. (3) Should the
operators need to have water provided for their facilities, they
should contact the City of Livonia Water Department to obtain the
proper equipment, including a water meter with backflow
preventer."The letter is signed by David W. Lear, P.E., Assistant
City Engineer. The second letter is from the Livonia Fire &
Rescue Division, dated June 11, 2018, which reads as follows:
"This office has reviewed the site plan submitted in connection
with a request to conduct a carnival in the parking lot on property
located at the above referenced address. We have no objections
to this proposal." The letter is signed by Keith Bo, Fire Marshal.
The third letter is from the Division of Police, dated June 8, 2018,
which reads as follows: I have reviewed the plans in connection
with the petition. I have no objections to the proposal."The letter
is signed by Brian Leigh, Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The fourth
letter is from the Inspection Department, dated June 18, 2018,
which reads as follows: "Pursuant to your request, the above-
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referenced petition has been reviewed. This Department has no
objections to this petition."The letter is signed by Jerome Hanna,
Director of Inspection. The fifth letter is from the Treasurer's
Department, dated June 12, 2018, which reads as follows: "In
accordance with your request, the Treasurer's Office has
reviewed the address connected with the above noted petition. At
this time, there are no outstanding amounts receivable for taxes.
Therefore, I have no objections to the proposal." The letter is
signed by Lynda Scheel, Treasurer. The sixth letter is from the
Finance Department, dated June 7, 2018,which reads as follows:
"I have reviewed the addresses connected with the above noted
petition. As there are no outstanding amounts receivable, general
or water and sewer, I have no objections to the proposal." The
letter is signed by Coline Coleman, Chief Accountant. That is the
extent of the correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any questions of the Planning Director? Seeing none,
is the petitioner here with us tonight?We will need your name and
address for the record please.
Joanna Hardesty, Wade Shows, Inc., P.O. Box 51730, Livonia, Michigan 48151. I
represent Wade Shows. I have with me this evening Jeff Adams.
He is the current president of the Livonia AM Rotary Club.
Mr. Wilshaw: Is there anything else that you'd like to add from what you've
heard so far?
Ms. Hardesty: I don't think so. It's pretty well been covered. The dates are
shorter. It's just a four-day event instead of an 11-day event this
time around.
Mr. Wilshaw: With that, are there any questions for our petitioner?
Mr. Priddy: Good evening.We heard the details that are essentially the same
as your last one they had earlier in May. Is the midway laid out
the same? We have a map but it doesn't have any orientation on
it.
Ms. Hardesty: It actually will be pretty much exactly the same. We may not have
quite as many rides and attractions as we did with the May event,
but it will be very similar in layout.
Mr. Priddy: Is it coordinated with any particular event or fundraiser?
Ms. Hardesty: It is. Actually, Sears and the Rotary Club are working together.
The reason for doing it is to participate in a Fill the Backpacks for
Kids back to school this year.
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Mr. Priddy: Good luck to you. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Do we have any other questions for our petitioner?
Mr. Caramagno: Is this the first time it's been held twice at Sears?
Ms. Hardesty: Yes.
Mr. Caramagno: I'm assuming that the first one was a good success and this
opportunity presented itself again, and it's time to do it again.
Ms. Hardesty: That's correct. Yes. And it's a great cause. We met with Sears,
and Sears was very interested in doing something for back to
school. So we jumped on it.
Mr. Caramagno: It is back to school for Livonia school children or the general
area? Tell us a little more about that.
Ms. Hardesty: Do you want to address that?
Jeff Adams, Rotary Club of Livonia, 29824 Minton, Livonia, Michigan 48150. The
program is actually going to be inside of LPS and Clarenceville.
We're in Livonia. We support Livonia. Do don't really venture too
far outside of Livonia unless it's a global project. So all the
backpacks and everything that we're able to put together with the
funds from this carnival will stay 100 percent in Livonia.
Mr. Caramagno: Okay. Very good. Thank you.
Mr. Long: The safety inspections. Can you explain that again? I know we
talked about that the last time you were here. Do they do that
every time you put them up and down or is it just once a year?
Ms. Hardesty: They are done every single time we put them up and down. Yes.
Safety inspection is done by both our inspectors that are
contracted by Wade Shows but also a third party inspector. The
State does it periodically, but once a year they're inspected and
approved by the State of Michigan, but our inspector does
periodically come out and take a look around.
Mr. Long: Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Is there anybody in the audience that wishes to speak for or
against this item? Seeing no one coming forward, is there
anything else you'd like to finish with, Ms. Hardesty, before we
vote?
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Ms. Hardesty: No. Just thank you for your continued support of us and the
Rotary Club as well. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: With that, we will close the public hearing and a motion would be
in order.
On a motion by McCue, seconded by Smiley, and unanimously adopted, it was
#06-39-2018 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on June 26, 2018, on Petition
2018-05-02-12 submitted by Wade Shows, Inc. requesting waiver
use approval pursuant to Section 11.03(1) of the City of Livonia
Zoning Ordinance#543, as amended, to conduct a carnival in the
parking lot of Sears, sponsored by the Rotary Club of Livonia,
consisting of amusement rides, games and food concessions
from August 9, 2018 through August 12, 2018, inclusive, on
property at 29500 Seven Mile Road, located on the northwest
corner of Seven Mile Road and Middlebelt Road in the Southeast
1/4 of Section 2, which property is zoned C-2, the Planning
Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that
Petition 2018-05-02-12 be approved subject to the following
conditions:
1. That the carnival shall be limited to the dates as specified by
Wade Shows, Inc., which are Thursday, August 9, 2018
through Sunday, August 12, 2018, inclusive;
2. That the proposed carnival operation shall be confined to
the area as illustrated on the aerial layout plan as received
by the Planning Commission on May 23, 2018;
3. That all rides, food concessions, booths and all other
equipment and apparatus relating to the operation of the
carnival shall be located at least sixty feet (60') distant from
the Seven Mile and Middlebelt Roads right-of-way lines;
4. That the temporary housing and storage of other trucks and
equipment associated with the carnival shall be parked or
stored within the extreme southwestern portion of the Sears
parking lot, but no closer than sixty feet (60') from the Seven
Mile Road right-of-way line;
5. That the hours of operation shall be limited to the following:
Thursday and Friday from 4:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m., and on
the weekend, Saturday and Sunday from 12:00 p.m. to
11:00 p.m.; and
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6. That access to fire hydrants is provided for the Fire
Department.
Subject to the preceding conditions, this petition is approved for
the following reasons:
1. That the proposed use complies with all of the special and
general waiver use standards and requirements as set forth
in Sections 11.03 and 19.06 of the Zoning Ordinance #543;
2. That the site has the capacity to accommodate the proposed
use;
3. That the use of the subject property for carnival purposes
will not interrupt the normal traffic flow and circulation in the
area and will not impede access to Sears or Livonia
Marketplace; and
4. That no reporting City department objects to the proposed
use.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 19.05 of
Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr.Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution.
ITEM #2 PETITION 2018-05-02-13 HERITAGE SQUARE
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Petition 2018-
05-02-13 submitted by Kucyk, Soave & Fernandes, P.L.L.C.
requesting special waiver use approval pursuant to Sections
20.01 and 20.02A of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543,
as amended, to develop a Planned Residential Development
under the Single-Family Clustering option (Heritage Square),
consisting of 50 site condominium lots, on properties at 36900
and 36910 Mallory Drive (former Clay Elementary School site)
and the property at 16600 Newburgh Road and a portion of the
property at 16700 Newburgh Road, located at the east side of
Newburgh Road between Five Mile and Six Mile Roads in the
Northwest % of Section 17.
Mr. Taormina: This is a request to develop a site condominium and Planned
Residential Development under the Single-Family Clustering
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option. This is the site of the former Clay Elementary School, as
well as a portion of St. Timothy Presbyterian Church, located on
the east side of Newburgh between Five and Six Mile Roads. The
site is 14.4 acres in size. There is a pending zoning application
that would change the zoning of the site to R-2, One Family
Residential. City Council gave First Reading on the rezoning at
it's June 4 regular meeting, and Second Reading and Roll Call,
the final steps in the process, are on hold pending a review of the
site plan. Clustering is a development alternative that is available
in any R-1 through R-4 zoning district subject to special waiver
use approval. It allows for flexible design standards to encourage
more efficient use of land as a means of preserving additional
open space, providing single family development for difficult sites
and offering reasonable alternatives to multi-family development.
The option allows for either attached or detached single family
dwellings. In the case of Heritage Square, all dwelling units would
be detached single-family homes located on individual site
condominium lots. The density allowance with R-2 zoning is 3.5
dwelling units per acre. Thus, the 14.4 acre site could yield up to
50 homes. The submitted site plan shows exactly that: 50
condominium lots. There is a single loop road with a connection
to Newburgh Road that would provide access to all 50 home
sites. There is no vehicular connection to Mallory Drive where it
currently dead ends on the east side of the property. The new
road, which is also called Mallory Drive, would be a 60-foot wide
public street and would enter from Newburgh just south of the
church. None of the proposed home sites would have direct
access from Newburgh Road. A public walkway is provided
between Lots 17 and 18 to join with the existing public sidewalk
that is on the south side of Mallory Drive connecting to the
Kingsbury Heights subdivision. Under the cluster option, there is
no minimum lot size requirement; however, wherever a proposed
cluster housing project abuts existing single-family homes, which
in this case is along the east and south sides of the property, the
ordinance requires either a landscape buffer or conventional size
lots. Lots 1 through 21 bordering the site's east and south
boundaries where the development abuts existing single-family
homes, all measure a minimum of 70 feet by 120 feet, thereby
conforming to conventional R-2 standards. The remainder of the
lots, 22 through 50, are either internal to the development or
border non-residential land uses, most of which take advantage
of the flexible design standards that are offered under the single
family clustering option. Lots 22 through 37, which are located in
the middle of the development, all measure at least 60 feet by
120 feet. Lots 38 through 50, which are located adjacent to the
commercial shopping center to the north and the church, mostly
measure 52 feet in width by a minimum of 120 feet in depth.
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Management of stormwater would occur in the northeast corner
of the site where a forebay for the pretreatment of the runoff
would then flow into two detention holding ponds. The submittal
also includes a landscape plan that shows a variety of plantings
along the site's frontage on Newburgh, along the south and east
property lines of the church and abutting office development,
around the detention basins, and along the property's north
property line where it abuts the shopping center. Also shown are
single street trees planted for each individual unit. The plan
shows an entry monument sign located in the landscape island
at the main entrance. This sign will be restricted to 20 square feet
in size and five feet in height and must be located at least 10 feet
from the right-of-way line of Newburgh Road. We do not have
details for the sign at this point, but it does show on the site plan
where it would be generally located. Included with the submittal
is a Master Deed and Bylaws which are part of the submission
pertaining to the size and type of homes proposed for Heritage
Square. The Master Deed and Bylaws indicate that each dwelling
unit that is two-stories in height will contain at least 65% brick
and/or stone. and for each single-story home, at least 80% of the
structure will be brick or stone. Minimum home sizes specified in
the Master Deed and Bylaws include ranches at 1,500 square
feet and multi-story homes, cape cods or colonials, at 1,800
square feet. With that, Mr. Chairman, I can read out the
departmental correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, please.
Mr. Taormina: There are several items of correspondence. The first item is from
the Engineering Division, dated June 8, 2018, which reads as
follows: "In accordance with your request, the Engineering
Division has reviewed the above referenced rezoning petition.
We have no objections to the proposed waiver use at this time.
The existing parcels are assigned the addresses of#36900 and
#36910 Mallory Drive and #16600 and #16700 Newburgh Road.
The legal description provided with the submitting drawings for
the proposed waiver use appears to be correct and is acceptable
to this office. The existing parcels are currently serviced by public
utilities, but the submitted drawings do not show proposed
connections or calculations, so we cannot determine impacts to
the existing systems at this time. The developer has been in
contact with this Department throughout the planning process,
and is aware of the site plan requirements including storm water
detention. We would like to request that the owner look at
connecting the proposed development with the existing Mallory
Drive to the east, to provide a second access point in cases of
accidents or emergencies along Newburgh Road that could block
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the primary entrance. We will provide a detailed review once full
Engineering site plans have been submitted for approval." The
letter is signed by David W. Lear, P.E., Assistant City Engineer.
The second letter is from the Livonia Fire & Rescue Division,
dated June 11, 2018, which reads as follows: "This office has
reviewed the site plan submitted in connection with a request to
develop a Planned Residential Development under the Single-
Family Clustering Option (Heritage Square) on property located
at the above referenced address. We have no objections to this
proposal with the following stipulations: (1) Adequate hydrants
shall be provided and located with a maximum spacing of 300
feet between hydrants. Most remote hydrant shall flow 1,500
GPM with a residual pressure of 20 PSI. (2) Adequate hydrants
shall be provided and located with spacing consistent with the
use group. (3) Hydrant spacing shall be consistent with City of
Livonia Ordinances." The letter is signed by Keith Bo, Fire
Marshal. The third letter is from the Inspection Department, dated
June 18, 2018, which reads as follows: "Pursuant to your request,
the above-referenced petition has been reviewed. This
Department has no objections to this petition."The letter is signed
by Jerome Hanna, Director of Inspection. The fourth letter is from
the Treasurer's Department, dated June 1, 2018, which reads as
follows: "In accordance with your request, the Treasurer's Office
has reviewed the address connected with the above noted
petition. At this time, there are no outstanding amounts receivable
for taxes. Therefore, 1 have no objections to the proposal." The
letter is signed by Lynda Scheel, Treasurer. The fifth letter is from
the Finance Department, dated June 5, 2018, which reads as
follows: "I have reviewed the addresses connected with the
above noted petition. As there are no outstanding amounts
receivable, general or water and sewer, I have no objections to
the proposal." The letter is signed by Coline Coleman, Chief
Accountant. We did receive seven items of correspondence via
email regarding the project from residents indicating their
objection to the proposal. Each of the Commissioners should
have copies of those letters in your packets. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Taormina. Those letters are in our packets.
I appreciate that. Are there any questions of the Planning
Director? Seeing none, the petitioner is here. We will need your
name and address for the record please.
Enrico E. Soave, Kucyk Soave & Fernandes, PLLC, 37771 Seven Mile Road, Suite
C, Livonia, Michigan 48152. Good evening, everyone. First off,
thank you, Mr. Taormina, for your presentation. It was very
thorough. I don't want to be redundant on a couple issues or
explanations Mark had during his presentation, but if the Planning
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Commission would remember back in February of this year, we
had a pretty much close site plan during the rezoning stage of
this, which you approved, is starkly different from the site plan
that you have before you tonight. Just glancing at it, you can see
a huge difference. Five revisions in total. I know the City Council
had a lot of feedback. We made a lot of revisions. A lot of that
was due to neighboring concerns. Big three in my mind, R-2
zoning, which creates greater setbacks in between units, for the
front yard setbacks lower density. Another huge one that the
neighbors voiced their opinion was, elimination of all the attached
condominium units. This is all single family. I think we had 57
units proposed and we have 50 here tonight in the allowable limits
of R-2 zoning. I was looking over the site plan earlier today and I
noticed clustering and we're doing from R-2 sized lots,
conventional R-2 sized lots, from the south and to the north near
heavy commercial office and St. Timothy's Church, we have
smaller size units to accommodate from going from residential to
heavy commercial. Factoring in all 50 lots, if you were to look at
the square footage of each and every lot, all 50 lots, and you
divide that by the number of units, you get an average square foot
of each unit. I'm not surprised, but the average square foot of the
units is 8,281 square feet. R-2 zoning requirements, conventional
R-2, is 8,400 square feet. So averaging it out, all 50 lots were 119
square feet short of all lots meeting R-2 square footage when you
factor in the clustering and all the lots. Also significant in the site
plan is more open space. We provided a public pedestrian
pathway connecting the adjacent communities and extensive
landscaping on this plan. More so than we normally offer in
providing our subdivisions, especially if you pay attention to the
detention ponds to the north of the property. You see landscaping
on that. I'm sure the Planning Commission can admonish that you
don't normally see landscaping surrounding detention ponds
whether there is commercial, residential or otherwise. That was
another thing for the neighbors to provide extra screening and
beautification of the property. At the end of the day, this is not the
plan that we wanted. Back in February we put forth the plan we
wanted, but if you stop pause and be honest with yourself, the
neighbors are, I think it is a plan we can live with, and I hope it's
one that the Planning Commission can live with as well. Thank
you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any questions for our petitioner?
Mr. Long: The Engineering Department offered up the thought that you may
want to consider extending Mallory Drive and connecting it. Can
you share your thoughts on that? I know that's not what this says
here.
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Mr. Soave: You got a dozen people in the room and took a poll. Would you
want the road to extend or not to extend? You'd probably get six
saying yes, six saying no. When we first started this project, the
first concern was traffic, traffic, traffic on Newburgh.
Understandably so. We paid a traffic consultant, paid a lot of
money for it, nominal to traffic. What happens when you open up
Mallory, and that was with the site plan closed off. What happens
when you open up Mallory as a thoroughfare? So now, you have
a direct line from Newburgh proceeding east to Levan that never
existed before. All through this process, the neighbors said we
have a lot of speeding cars down Levan. That's going to add
traffic. We're spending a lot of money on this proposed
development now and when if it goes through. That's a big
detraction. Now you have mostly families in here, kids in the
street. So now they have to contend with cars and traffic during
rush hour wanting to get off Newburgh zooming from Levan off
Fitzgerald. I think that's a very poor decision, and we're not in
favor of it. Public Safety, Keith Bo, is satisfied with how it is. It's
safe. Has the boulevard. It's 50 lots. It's more than satisfactory.
Mr. Ventura: Mr. Soave, in that same area, I see that we have a label called
open space and there's a sidewalk that goes through to the
sidewalk on the south side of Mallory Drive.
Mr. Soave: Yes.
Mr. Ventura: Can you talk about what's in the open space, number one, and
number two, what's at the interface of the open space and the
paved Mallory Drive?
Mr. Soave: Yes. Pedestrian walkway that will be sodded and irrigated to
maintain beauty. We don't plan on putting landscaping at this
point in time; however, there is decorative fencing that actually
screens that in from where Mallory dead ends.
Mr. Ventura: So there's a visual barrier at the end of Mallory Drive.
Mr. Soave: Right. The addition would be fencing that would actually enclose
that area but for the width of the pedestrian walkway.
Mr. Ventura: And who will maintain the planted grass there?
Mr. Soave: The Association will.
Mr. Caramagno: The houses that are being built, are they going to be all front entry
garage doors? Is there anything going to enter from the side?
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Mr. Soave: We will have a handful of side entry garages. I mean, they're not
required, but they will be available for side entry, and I think based
upon the numbers, I think a good deal of these lots could
accommodate depending upon the home style being built there
with three-car front entry garage.
Mr. Caramagno: How many options of houses are you going to offer here?
Mr. Soave: There will be a plethora of options. There will be two different
builders in there, different plans. So I would venture to say a
dozen different plans. A mixture between different size ranches,
colonials, first floor masters, and our minimums 1,500, 1,800,
respectively. They're really nice homes. It's going to be a great
development.
Mr. Caramagno: It could look similar to the neighborhood to the east and just
updated homes. That's all.
look at floor plans, these homes
Mr. Soave: I think when this is done, if you
on average will be larger than the homes in the surrounding
areas. But you're also taking in two different communities, one to
the east and one to the south. So we're anticipating a lot of need
for ranches in there but also a lot of need for larger colonials. So
you will be seeing larger size colonials in there.
Mr. Caramagno: There's plenty of colonials neighboring to the south and to the
east there too, so it seems it would fit. To me, it seems like it will
fit well. When you look at the average lot size, you said it was . .
Mr. Soave: 8,281. They did it on an Excel sheet so I hope that's accurate.
Mr. Caramagno: So almost 8,300 is the average lot size; not the overall property.
Mr. Soave: Yeah, overall unit size. Unit size, lot size, correct.
Mr. Caramagno: But it didn't include the retention area.
Mr. Soave: No, definitely not.
Mr. Caramagno: So that area, you actually lose the ability to have larger lots
because of it taking up the property there.
Mr. Soave: That detention pond, developing these days, exacts a lot of
property and that's one of the reasons why property and
development costs so much because a lot of it is lost during the
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development stages. The neighboring communities, when their
houses were built, probably one of the reasons why they're
experiencing drainage issues is they didn't have the engineering
today for these ponds. If you look at land mass, in fact, their lot
sizes are a lot bigger.
Mr. Caramagno: You said that the detention pond is going to have landscape. I
see landscape to the east of that and I don't know, because I
didn't drive back there, but to the north, is that along that brick
wall, still behind Busch's market?
Mr. Soave: If you slip over to the landscape page, I think that will show it. I'm
not sure if landscaping goes in the back. Those are trees. There
are trees in the back there as well.
Mr. Caramagno: But that wall is back there also.
Mr. Soave: That wall is tough to contend with. It's tall, ten feet tall in most
areas, and not the best color either. Don't forget you're backing
up to an alleyway where Busch's and all the rest of the retail is
there. You're dealing with the noise. We're hoping that a screen
belt back there will help reduce some of the noise, especially
early morning deliveries. It's a lot to contend with, and I think it is
going to be a detraction and harder to sell those units back there.
Mr. Caramagno: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Any other questions for our petitioner. Mr. Soave, quickly, I
wanted to ask just a couple brief things. The subdivision is going
to have sidewalks and streetlights?
Mr. Soave: Correct.
Mr. Wilshaw: And tell me a little bit about the homes in terms of the projected
sale prices.
Mr. Soave: Projected sale prices will probably be starting at low $300's.
Mr. Wilshaw: With that, if there are no other questions for our petitioner, we'll
go to our audience. Is there anybody in the audience that wishes
to speak for or against this item? Please come forward. We are
here to listen to you. Please start with your name and address.
Sandra McDonald, 37124 Munger, Livonia, Michigan. I've got a question about the
landscaping. I'm right on Munger Street so my home will back up
to another home now. I'm curious about the landscaping that they
plan to do back there. I've got a fence that goes anywhere from
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probably five foot up to maybe six and a half. The fence is rusted.
It's not my fence. So I'm curious to know what the plan is to deal
with that. I don't see on the plans any landscaping for this area.
Mr. Wilshaw: That's correct. Looking at the landscape plan,where houses back
up to houses, there is no indication of any additional landscaping
added that's not already there, but we will ask about the fence
when the petitioner comes back up. So thank you.
Robert Sluka, 16791 Fitzgerald, Livonia, Michigan. Good evening, Mr. Chairman
and Planning Commission members. My back lot line is shared
with the east boundary of the property. I have to agree that the
second preliminary site plan that we're looking at up on the
screen is an improvement over the previous plan. No question
about that. There's a big but. Fifty-eight percent of these R-2
zoning district lots are shown with R-1 width or less. You know,
it's one thing to reduce lot width by 10 feet to an R-1 dimension
of 60 feet, but an 18-foot reduction of 26 percent to 52 feet, I feel
is extreme, especially when a quarter of the lots in this project are
involved. Many of you probably have Section 20 of the Zoning
Ordinance memorized, but Section 20.04 states: The Planning
Commission shall send their resolution recommending approval
or denial to the City Council for the final determination based on
the following standards. First paragraph, sub marked a, the
proposed use or uses shall be of such location, size and
character as to be in harmony with the appropriate and orderly
development of the Zoning Ordinance in which it's situated. Then
it continues on and there's more, and this is the particular
standard that I'd like to focus on in the remainder of my remarks
and plain and simple, 52 foot wide lots are not in harmony with
surrounding R-2, R-3 neighborhoods with 70 foot and 80 foot
wide lots. This is not Washington Park, which is located in an R-
1 neighborhood. It's zoned R-1 and built R-1. The issue mainly
here is curb appeal. Frontage of the house and its setting on a
lot has a lot to do with the overall appearance. We saw a few
moments ago some very beautiful photos of some attractive
homes. You notice, they have expansive side yards and lush
backyards. It's a different setting when you drive through
Washington Park. That's what I expect if the plan goes forward
as presented. I don't think there's any question that at some point
in time, surrounding home values and SEV will be negatively
affected by the substantial presence of the sub-R-1 lot sizes,
especially when the housing market inevitably cools off. So my
challenge is not to the R-1 lot sizes that are there, but to the 52
foot lots. I feel that they really don't belong. So my appeal to you,
Planning Commission members, is to approve the preliminary
site plan but with the condition of minimum lot width limited to 60
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foot while maintaining the 21 70-foot wide lots along the
Munger/Fitzgerald perimeter. I assume that your
recommendation to the Council will include conditions as you did
for the Washington Park approval. I'm requesting brick or stone
be required on all four sides, and what I heard earlier tonight
seems that would be complied with, and specific maintenance
responsibilities be identified for the open spaces and detention
ponds. Being a site condominium, and owners are responsible for
the upkeep for the maintenance for not only their house but for
their property. And I think that I haven't seen any documents that
identifies the responsibility for that. I'm going to be looking right
at the detention pond. I'm going to have landscaping according
to the plan which is going to help block it out. But I've got to tell
you, detention ponds are usually ugly. A drive through
Washington Park right now will tell you, but I realize the necessity
because flooding is an issue when we have sustained hard
storms. So I want to remind everyone that the Kingsbury Renwick
Park residents have very serious concerns about stormwater
management on this project. It does not seem to be realized how
much water pours off the south boundary of the Clay property
onto Munger, and you know it's 180 degrees away from where
the detentions are. There's obviously got to be some grading and
some other measures put in place. And there are other existing
problems like that detention pond shown, the drain into a storm
sewer which runs full under hard rain conditions. I have photos to
document that. So I'm hoping that when it gets time to do
construction, and I'm all for getting on with construction.
Mortgage rates are going up. Let's get this job done but I am
really objecting, as do many of my neighbors, to these tiny lots.
Transition or not, there are a lot of people that don't want a
neighbor in their backyard and they would rather look at a wall
than deal with a neighbor, and I'm sure we can find clients who
are interested in that kind of property. So thank you for your
consideration of my remarks this evening.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you very much, Mr. Sluka. I just wanted to point out to you,
in terms of maintenance of the ponds and the common areas,
that's defined in the Master Deed of the condominium
association. So that's part of the legal document that will define
where the common and open areas are and who is responsible
for maintaining those. So that will be taken care of.
Mr. Sluka: Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, sir. With that, is there someone else in the audience
wishing to speak?
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Christine Yee, 37150 Munger, Livonia, Michigan. Good evening. I'll just tag onto
what that gentleman has said. There was an article in news a
couple months ago. There was a flooding in the City of Taylor
subdivision that the builder had built and it was full of it and they
had issues. There was some finger pointing between the City
versus the home association about who's responsible. I just want
to bring it up and make sure that when and if we build these
houses, flooding is taken into consideration. I mean it impacts the
new development and also the neighborhoods around the new
development.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you. Is there anyone else wishing to speak on this item?
Okay. I'll ask if the petitioner would like to come back up to the
podium. Mr. Soave, you heard a couple of comments from our
residents. One in particular I wanted to ask about was a question
regarding the fence line on the east side. Apparently, that's not
the residential homeowner's fence. Is that going to be your fence
and your responsibility to repair that?
Mr. Soave: The fence on the eastern or southern portion of the property.
Mr. Wilshaw: Southerly.
Mr. Soave: In the audience is a representative from St. Timothy's, Norman,
the Pastor, and based upon our engineering and typography,
those do not seem to be on this property. It seems to be inside
the homeowner's property. We spoke with St. Timothy's and they
said it's not their fence either. I know it's been there for quite some
time.
Mr. Wilshaw: I'll leave that for you to work with the homeowners in your
development process to see if you can come to an amicable
resolution on that. In terms of any other additional landscaping
provided along the fence line, you don't have additional
landscaping that you're providing along the residential homes
other than what we see on the site plan. Correct?
Mr. Soave: That's correct. The previous site plan that the Planning
Commission saw, there was extensive landscaping on a portion
of the property; however, that was due to buffering of the attached
units that were proposed. With all these being 70 foot lots, I mean
if you can see, some of those lots are almost 150 feet deep.There
is no further landscaping.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay. Thank you. Is there anything else you'd like to add from
any of the comments that you heard?
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Mr. Soave: Not really, except I can agree with one of the comments. One of
the gentlemen said that we're also looking forward to getting
started on this as well.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any questions from the Commission?
Mr. Ventura: Mr. Soave, is there anything that would preclude an owner of a
unit on the south boundary from adding his own landscaping?
Mr. Soave: No. There are no restrictions or easements, etc., other than
maybe utility easements, to prevent them from doing
landscaping. No. These are conventional size lots and there
would be nothing in the Master Deed and Bylaws that would
prevent them from adding additional landscaping.
Mr. Ventura: Will it be each owner's responsibility to maintain his site?
Mr. Soave: That is correct.
Mr. Ventura: And is it your experience that when people buy these that they do
landscaping?
Mr. Soave: Absolutely. It's actually a requirement. The Master Deed requires
them after a certain period to landscape, and I think they also
require a landscaping bond at closing, so if it's not done within a
reasonable period of time, depending on the time of year they
close, if it's not done, they forfeit the bond and the
developer/association would put landscaping in.
Mr. Ventura: Thank you.
Mr. Caramagno: I heard you mention earlier about the brick wall backing up to the
supermarket and it could make things difficult in the way of
attractiveness to these properties. Then I heard one of the
speakers here tonight talk about the width of the lots, the 52 feet
and the compatibility with the neighborhood, but then he also said
a transitional approach to where the lots are. So I kind of hear
what you're saying. Tell me about the transition. You're thinking
of transitional small lots as you approach the commercial
property. Tell me just a little bit about that.
Mr. Soave: On how the transition takes place, the rationale behind the trend?
Mr. Caramagno: Just your rationale with it because I heard you say that the lots
might be a little bit difficult to . . . . not as attractive here. I did
hear, I forget his name, but he talked about a transition and
compatibility with the neighborhood. Well, to me it seems that
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there's a definite transition between what will abut up to the
neighborhood and what will abut up to the back of the church and
the back of the shopping complex there. So, is that why you
chose to put a smaller lot back up to that commercial property?
Tell me just a little bit about that.
Mr. Soave: It figures into the overall development scheme. Obviously, it has
to be profitable in order for any business venture to go forward
and someone to invest millions of dollars in there. Number two is,
half the property is residential, half is commercial and office. If
you were to develop a portion of that property and left the
segment of land behind the parking lot of St. Timothy's, why
couldn't St. Timothy's or someone else buy the church, if they
were to sell it, and continue on to put an office building there?
The church behind it, there's commercial and office right next to
it. It's an office setting. Originally, the plan we wanted was to put
attached units there. There's other areas in the city that have
sandwiched between an area of residential and commercial,
apartments, and they make the transition from single family to
multi-family to commercial. Another thing is, if you were to put big
lots back there, 70, 80-foot lots, you could have a lot more open
space in between it obviously. More open space over there, also
allows for the naked eye from that development to see more of
Busch's, to see more of that brick wall, to hear more noise. So
actually having smaller sized lots there actually adds a screen
belt because you have more houses there to help balance that
and protect the rest of the subdivision from the scenery, the
sounds and the sights behind Busch's. I don't know if you've been
back there, but they have deliveries come in there at 7:00 in the
morning sometimes, before 7:00 in the morning, garbage trucks
back there. So people are going to be spending $350,000 -
$400,000 back there. If you want this to be an attractive
development, and an attractive development means all four
corners of that development, not just three sides of it.
Mr. Caramagno: Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Do we have any other questions for our petitioner? Seeing none,
I will close the public hearing and ask for a motion.
On a motion by Ventura, seconded by Smiley, and unanimously adopted, it was
#06-40-2018 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on June 26, 2018, on Petition
2018-05-02-13 submitted by Kucyk, Soave & Fernandes,
P.L.L.C. requesting special waiver use approval pursuant to
Sections 20.01 and 20.02A of the City of Livonia Zoning
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Ordinance #543, as amended, to develop a Planned Residential
Development under the Single-Family Clustering option (Heritage
Square), consisting of 50 site condominium lots, on properties at
36900 and 36910 Mallory Drive (former Clay Elementary School
site) and the property at 16600 Newburgh Road and a portion of
the property at 16700 Newburgh Road, located at the east side
of Newburgh Road between Five Mile and Six Mile Roads in the
Northwest 1/4 of Section 17, which property is in the process of
being rezoned from PL and R-3 to R-2, the Planning Commission
does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 2018-
05-02-13 be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That the Master Deed and bylaws complies with the
requirements of Article XX, Section 20.01-20.06 of Zoning
Ordinance #543, as amended, and the Subdivision Control
Ordinance, Title 16, Chapter 16.04-16.40 of the Livonia Code
of Ordinances, subject to the following modifications and
exceptions:
- that each condominium unit shall be brick or stone, on all
four (4) sides, and the total amount of brick or stone shall
not be less than 80%;
- that the minimum floor area for each dwelling shall not be
less than 1,500 square feet;
- that all exterior chimneys shall be brick;
- that the dedication of public open space for parks and
recreational use pursuant to Section 16.24.270 is hereby
waived;
2. That the Preliminary Site Plan identified as Sheet 1 dated
May 4, 2018, as revised, prepared by Arpee/Donnan, Inc.,
is hereby approved and shall be adhered to;
3. That the Landscape Planting Plan and Landscape Notes
and Details identified as LP-1 and LP-2, respectively, both
dated May 29, 2018, prepared by Nagy Devlin Land Design,
are hereby approved and shall be adhered to;
4. That underground irrigation shall be provided for all common
open space areas, but not including those areas of the
detention ponds and forebay located below the 678-contour
line as depicted on the Preliminary Site Plan;
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5. That streetlights and sidewalks shall be installed throughout
the development to the satisfaction of the Engineering
Department;
6. In the event of a conflict between the provisions set forth in k'
the Master Deed and bylaws and the requirements set forth
in the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance No. 543, as
amended, the Zoning Ordinance requirements shall prevail
and petitioner shall comply with the Zoning Ordinance
requirements;
7. That the petitioner shall include language in the Master
Deed and bylaws or a separate recordable instrument
wherein the condominium association shall reimburse the
City of Livonia for any maintenance or repair costs incurred
for the storm water detention/retention and outlet facilities;
8. That only a conforming entrance marker is approved with
this petition, and any additional signage shall be separately
submitted for review and approval by the Zoning Board of
Appeals;
9. That the petitioner shall secure the necessary storm water
management permits from the City of Livonia Engineering
Division;
10. That all required cash deposits, certified checks, irrevocable
bank letters of credit and/or surety bonds which shall be
established by the City Engineer pursuant to Article XVIII of
Ordinance No. 543, Section 18.66 of the ordinance, shall be
deposited with the City prior to the issuance of engineering
permits for this site condominium development; and
11. Pursuant to Section 19.10 of Ordinance #543, the Zoning
Ordinance of the City of Livonia, this approval is valid for a
period of ONE YEAR ONLY from the date of approval by
City Council, and unless a building permit is obtained, this
approval shall be null and void at the expiration of said
period.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 19.05 of
Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr.Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution.
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ITEM #3 PETITION 2018-05-08-05 ONE UNDER
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Petition 2018-
05-08-05 submitted by Brian Tominna requesting approval of all
plans required by Section 18.58 of the City of Livonia Zoning
Ordinance #543, as amended, regarding a proposal to construct
additions and remodel the interior and exterior of the existing
restaurant (One Under) at 35780 Five Mile Road, located on the
north side of Five Mile Road between Ellen Drive and Levan Road
in the Southeast ' of Section 17.
Mr. Taormina: This is a request to expand and remodel the existing restaurant
known as One Under located adjacent to the Idyl Wydl Golf
Course on the north side of Five Mile Road between Ellen Drive
and Levan Road. The size of the property is 1.61 acres in size
and it includes 436 feet of frontage on Five Mile Road.The zoning
of the property is C-2, General Business. The existing full service
restaurant and banquet facility was originally owned by the City
and leased to a private operator as part of the Idyl Wydl Golf
Course. In 2000, the City sold the restaurant and banquet hall
known then as Bobby's Country House, and the new owners
changed the name to Sandtraps on Five. Subsequent to that, the
property was sold again to the Tominna family and they changed
the name to One Under.The operation of the restaurant is subject
to a cross-access and parking agreement with the City. The site
contains a total of 108 parking spaces. Additional parking
available on the golf course that brings the total number of spaces
to 212. The agreement allocates a total of 156 spaces to the
restaurant and banquet hall during the golf season, which is April
through October, according to the agreement. During these
months, the number of customer seats is limited to 288, which
translates to approximately 128 seats in the lower level, the bar
and dining areas, and then in the upper level, 160 seats. The
largest addition occurs on the east side of the building. This would
expand the restaurant's dining area. It is not intended to increase
the seating capacity but instead improve work flow. This addition
would displace most of the restaurant's existing outdoor patio.
The addition is one story in height and approximately 1,500
square feet in area. The revamped interior would include a larger
walk-in cooler, a larger lounge area, hostess and wait stations as
well as an enlarged bar area. The exterior finishes include mostly
a synthetic or composite wood siding, as well as stone on the
lower part of the addition.The windows are actually roll-up garage
doors. The addition that occurs in front of the existing building has
a flat roof and is one story in height. Any rooftop mechanical
equipment will be screened within a well that would be covered
on top. So there would be no visibility of any rooftop mechanical
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units. The fence around the relocated patio occurs on the east
and north sides of the addition. It would extend about 12 feet out
from the building. It's not as large as the previous outdoor patio,
but it would accommodate 30 seats, which is equal to what
currently exists. The outer perimeter is confined by the six foot
high sections of decorative fence. The next addition occurs on the
north side of the building. This is a two-story addition that would
constitute a new main entrance and lobby to the restaurant. This
addition has a ground floor area of about 380 square feet. It would
include a new vestibule as well as lobby and also provides
secondary access to the upper level of the banquet hall. There is
a small bump out from within the restaurant's lounge area. This
will accommodate a new stage for performers as part of One
Under's entertainment operations. On the upper level of the
addition, the existing outdoor porch is going to be completely
remodeled and extended across the front of the new lobby and
entrance addition. The exterior finishes include both stone for the
vestibule/lobby and a burnished block for the stage bump out.
The outdoor porch on the second level is going to be completely
remodeled with new columns. It extends further to the north in
front of what is that area shown in orange or beige. That is the
second story. That's the new entry and vestibule addition. On the
first floor plan, next to the vestibule/lobby, again also on the north
side, is the stage. The last and smallest addition to the facility
would occur on the southwest corner of the building. This is about
200 square feet in size, and will be utilized primarily for storage
in connection with the banquet facility. Like the stage addition,
the exterior finish would be the dark gray burnish block. There are
other modifications to the building including a new roof. The
existing shingled roof would be replaced with metal standing
seam. I indicated that the balcony would be replaced as well as
all the columns improved and some other modifications on the
south side of the building facing Five Mile Road relative to
screening some of the mechanical equipment and other service
features. The dumpster area and those things will be addressed
better both with some stone work as well as some additional
landscaping. With that, Mr. Chairman, I can read out the
departmental correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, please.
Mr. Taormina: There are six items of correspondence. The first item is from the
Engineering Division, dated June 8, 2018,which reads as follows:
"In accordance with your request, the Engineering Division has
reviewed the above referenced petition. We have no objections
to the proposed project at this time. The existing parcel is
assigned the address of 35780 Five-Mile Road. The submitted
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legal description appears to be correct, and should be used in
association with this petition. It should be noted that the existing
parcel is currently serviced by public water main, sanitary sewer
and storm sewer. Any exterior alterations that include new
buildings or pavement will require storm water detention per the
Wayne County Storm Water Ordinance. The submitted plans do
not indicate any utility information, so we cannot comment on
impacts to the existing systems at this time. If approved, the
owner will need to submit full Engineering plans to this
Department to determine what permits will be required. Also,
should the owner need to complete work within the Five Mile
Road right-of-way, permits from the Wayne County Department
of Public Service will be required."The letter is signed by David
W. Lear, P.E., Assistant City Engineer. The second letter is from
the Livonia Fire & Rescue Division, dated June 11, 2018, which
reads as follows: "This office has reviewed the site plan submitted
in connection with a request to construct additions and remodel
the interior and exterior of the existing restaurant on property
located at the above referenced address. We have no objections
to this proposal with the following stipulations: (1) Subject
building(s) are to be provided with an automatic sprinkler system,
and on-site hydrants shall be located between 50 feet and 100
feet from the Fire Department connection. (2) Commercial
kitchen Hood and Duct fire suppression shall be a UL 300 system
and comply with NFPA 96. (3) Building shall be protected by an
automatic sprinkler system. (4) Knox Box installation is required
for Fire Department access. (5) CO2 detection required for
beverage distribution systems and coolers if tank/tanks are 100
lbs. or greater. (Per 2015 IFC 5307.1)" The letter is signed by
Keith Bo, Fire Marshal. The third letter is from the Division of
Police, dated June 6, 2018, which reads as follows: "I have
reviewed the plans in connection with the petition. I have no
objections to the proposal." The letter is signed by Brian Leigh,
Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The fourth letter is from the Inspection
Department, dated June 18, 2018, which reads as follows:
"Pursuant to your request, the above referenced Petition has
been reviewed. This proposal will require the building to have fire
suppression installed throughout in accordance with the Michigan
Building Code. This will be addressed at the time of plan review
if this project moves forward. This Department has no further
objections to this Petition."The letter is signed by Jerome Hanna,
Director of Inspection. The fifth letter is from the Treasurer's
Department, dated June 1, 2018, which reads as follows: "In
accordance with your request, the Treasurer's Office has
reviewed the address connected with the above noted petition. At
this time, there are no outstanding amounts receivable for taxes.
Therefore, I have no objections to the proposal." The letter is
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signed by Lynda Scheel, Treasurer. The sixth letter is from the
Finance Department, dated June 5, 2018,which reads as follows:
"I have reviewed the address connected with the above noted
petition. The following amounts are due to the City of Livonia:
Unpaid water and sewer charges (last payment 3-6-18)
$1,693.11; Annual/Biennial Building inspection $100.00; 2017
roving cart fees $684.60; 2018 roving cart fees $1,750.00. Total
Due City of Livonia $4,227.71." The letter is signed by Coline
Coleman, Chief Accountant. I will note that those have all been
addressed as recently as this week. That is the extent of the
correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any questions of the Planning Director? I don't see any,
so we will go to our petitioner. We will need your name and
address for the record please, and is there anything else you'd
like to add from what you've already heard?
Brian Tominna, One Under, 35780 Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan 48154. No,
I don't really have much to say. It's good to be here. We're really
looking forward to making some nice changes to the building
aesthetically, interior and kind of bring it up to 2018 standards.
Mr. Wilshaw: What brought about this need for these changes?
Mr. Tominna: I don't know. Just trying to make everything better around us,
within us, you know. Just time for a change. When we got
involved in this a long time ago,we knew a little bit. Now, we know
a little bit more.
Mr. Wilshaw: Well, thank you. Are there any questions for the petitioner?
Ms. Smiley: I'd like to see their building material samples.
Mr. Wilshaw: We do have the architect here, Mr. Kritzman. I think you can just
hold them up by the podium and let the camera pick them up.
Brandon Kritzman, NGA Architects, 23761 Research Drive, Farmington Hills,
Michigan 48335. It's interesting to be on this side of it for a
change. I've been working with Mr. Tominna and his brother,
Steven, for quite some time now. Just to touch based on some of
the things that we are trying to solve there, and Mr. Taormina
referenced it quite a bit. A lot of the moves that we're making
inside the restaurant have to do with making operations a little
smoother. Some of the things that you see in the floor plan are
actually pictured on your screen at the moment. What you don't
see is that the bar is moved out two feet. So it's not adding any
additional capacity to the bar itself, but it's making it so that two
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people can walk past each other without bumping into each other.
That's one of the smaller moves. There is a storage area being
added directly adjacent to that. There's a significant amount of
walk-in cooler storage that's added. So while it seems like there's
a significant addition to the dining area, quite a large percentage
of it is about displaced area that they are trying to recapture. The
stage area, again, is another example of that. They're currently
setting up and taking down temporary stage setups. So this is an
opportunity that is specifically designed so that their stage setup
works in that pocket. The idea is that they'll be able to leave it up.
The storage that's added to the second floor, they've got table
and chairs being stored in the kitchen area, which kind of makes
that a very unusable sort of space. A lot of the moves being made
are about improving the storage capabilities, which in turn will
help with a lot of the operations. Additional, there are some safety
issues related to the safety of the balcony, which is why that is, in
essence, being entirely torn off and rebuilt. Additionally, one of
the driving factors behind that two-story entrance is so that you
can have a better egress exit from that upper level should there
ever be an emergency. With that, I'd like to share some
information about the materials. This is a cultured stone product
that we see in a lot of applications. The brick that we're showing
here, it's labeled as an existing brick. It's just the closest color we
can get to approximate the existing building. The upper levels
where you see the lap siding and the standing seam metal roof
and all the trim, that will be a darker cement fiberboard color. The
burnished block, which as you're all likely aware, I'm not a huge
fan of burnished block in larger applications. I like to use it in
these smaller applications, and the intention is to go to the half-
height version of it so that it's got more of a utility brick sort of feel.
That would have either silver or black coping along the top. The
biggest feature of this one is the dining addition off the front, and
that is where we were looking for that synthetic wood product.
What we settled on is a decking material. It's made by Azek,
which many of you may be familiar with on a residential scale.
They have a thinner product, which is a cladding material that is
able to be used in vertical applications. So that is the best product
that we found above and beyond say a hardy board. The problem
with that is that it has a very monotone looking color. So it looks
like wood painted and that's not really what we were looking for.
We were looking for more of a stained look that has more variety
to it. Settling on the Azek product helped us get the look that we
were looking for. We spoke last time about trying to create a big
difference between a very classical looking existing building and
the fluted columns and the more modern look that we're trying to
go for with the additions. Any questions on any specific materials?
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Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you. Do we have any questions?
Ms. Smiley: I appreciate the presentation. It has an entire new look to it. I've
been to One Under. I don't recognize the new one.
Mr. Kritzman: The building has slowly been evolving over time. Mr. Taormina
ran through the past history of it and when it was built and when
it was developed and when it changed hands, and what you see
over that time is that a lot of the interior has evolved. The upstairs,
I think was about eight years ago, went to a more contemporary
sort of look,where downstairs really was just about stripping it out
and kind of having that open atmosphere. This is going to be a
far more articulated look inside as opposed to it just being
stripped out.
Ms. Smiley: Thank you.
Mr. Ventura: When do you anticipate you'd break ground on these
improvements?
Mr. Tominna: Whenever we go through the proper process.
Mr. Ventura: And is financing in place for the project?
Mr. Tominna: It's in place.
Mr. Ventura: So if you get through Council and everything by say the end of
summer, will you start this fall?
Mr. Tominna: I would love to start this fall.
Mr. Kritzman: Frankly, Brian would like to start in two weeks but he recognizes
that there is a couple steps in the way and we recognize that
there's a lot of design left to do on the civil engineering side to
comply with the Wayne County standards.
Mr. Ventura: Thank you.
Mr. Priddy I like the presentation. It looks like a very updated building.
Currently, I think guests can access the building from the front or
I guess from the parking lot directly through the middle.
Mr. Tominna: Yes.
Mr. Priddy: Is that still the goal or are you moving it to the side?
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Mr. Tominna: We're going to move the entire entrance to that side. The way it's
going to flow now, its just going to be a lot easier, especially with
the majority of the parking being on that side and the two-story
foyer look and just the way everything kind of fits, that side door
is used a lot all the time.
Mr. Priddy: Are you discouraging anyone from coming in through that?
Mr. Tominna: I think there will just be exits on that side only.
Mr. Priddy: So you're directing everyone to the main lobby.
Mr. Kritzman: There will not actually be any entrances on that side. The current
entrance is exactly where the walk-in cooler is planned for and
the patio area will be exit only.
Mr. Priddy: I noticed that and that's why I was asking the question because I
know the current flow is different.
Mr. Tominna: It's going to be different but once everything gets put in place, it's
going to flow very well. I was walking through that a lot of times
through my head and just the change and everything, but just the
dynamics of everything that we're going to be able to offer is just
going to make that visit that much better, I think.
Mr. Kritzman: Mark, if you could stay on that slide for just a moment, I'd like to
point out something about that front entry piece specifically, Mr.
Priddy, was intended to speak to both areas of the parking lot,
and the actual front entrance where you'd be entering from the
door standpoint is on the same façade direction. It's still on that
east side of the building, but this would offer an opportunity for
that front entrance to be a little more readily visible to people
approaching from the other sides of the building
Mr. Priddy: The banquet would then still be from the back on the top?
Mr. Kritzman: Yes.
Mr. Priddy: I noticed too, just another question, is you kind of touched a lot
on the sides and everything, but you still have that outdoor
storage on the south side of the building. How do you plan on
addressing that and kind of cleaning that up a little bit?
Mr. Kritzman: There is two existing corrals on that side. Unfortunately, just the
way the building is sited, I'm sorry, did you say east? You're
talking the south side.
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Mr. Priddy: The south side.
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Mr. Kritzman: So there's two existing corrals. One is the grease trap area; one
is the dumpster location, and then you've got the walk-in cooler
that's located behind a concrete block area. Each of those two
corrals and the cooler addition that's pre-existing, are all going to
be re-clad in the stone. So that will clean that up. We'll be putting
new doors on each of those bays. Additionally, and you can see
that in the elevation and also one of the floor plans, recognizing
that there's just a bit of a back access point to virtually any
restaurant. We've gone out of our way to put that L-shaped
screening with the same accent material with the burnished block
and there will be some open fencing there as well. So the idea is
that you're going to ... it's going to be a significantly cleaned up
entrance off that Five Mile side.
Mr. Priddy: Okay. So we're not really adding any more storage. We're sort of
Mr. Kritzman: No. There is no additional storage. It's really just screening of
what's there.
Mr. Priddy: Thank you.
Mr. Caramagno: Just so I don't get lost when I walk in there. The walk-in cooler
that's going to be new, will that block the view of the dance floor
and the stage? If you're on the south side of that, is that glass or
what is that?
Mr. Tominna: It's kind of like the one we currently have. It's just twice the size.
You'll be able to see through, but when you're on the new addition
side, you'll be able to see through and kind of hear through, but
those walls open up a little bit too. So the dynamics of the whole
building is the whole downstairs can kind of open, an open air
concept if we want to like on a nice day.
Mr. Caramagno: But that cooler will be a barrier toward the stage and the dancing
area?
Mr. Kritzman: It will, in effect, be a barrier for sure. You're going to have visibility
from four feet up because it is intended to be stainless steel up to
about four feet and then large pane windows, very similar to the
existing walk-in cooler back near the bathrooms. But based on
the amount of volume and materials that they want to store in
there, it will end up being a bit of an obscured sort of view. So if
you were there for a concert, I wouldn't pick the seats on the other
side of it. Part of the reasoning behind the layout is that they're
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looking for greater flexibility so that, as Mr. Tominna mentioned,
some of those spaces could be closed down for a private party if
needed. They have a lot of people who come that maybe they're
coming after a wake or a funeral or a retirement party. It doesn't
really rise to the level of needing the banquet center, but they
would like to be able to have their own little cordoned off area. So
it's not intended to be an overall music venue with people packed
wall-to-wall.
Mr. Caramagno: Okay. And the other question I have is, when you're upstairs on
the walkway on the balcony, and you're overlooking the new
addition, I see some grating. What will you be looking down at in
that grating up there?
Mr. Kritzman: You're referring to the greenery that's up there?
Mr. Caramagno: The existing balcony that will be replaced, and then you look out
onto the new roof. It looks like some grating. What is that?
Mr. Kritzman: That's the mechanical well. So if you think back to the building
addition itself, it's got that walk-in cooler that we're talking about
in that space. Well, the ceiling on the walk-in cooler is only eight
feet, so you've got another foot for structure. So really you've got
about nine feet up there to the bottom of the structure. So you've
got your compressors and you got duct work running through
there. The idea is the dining rooms on either side of it go up to
about 14 feet. So that allows us to take the mechanical equipment
serving those spaces and tuck it on top of the walk-in cooler. That
grating is intended so that you get air circulation, which is what is
needed to service the equipment, but it will limit the view from that
upper balcony area. So if you built that addition and put a roof top
unit at the same height as the rest of the roof, you've got roof top
units up there that's four feet tall that wouldn't be a particularly
great view from the balcony. So they're putting some additional
investment in it to create, in essence, a mechanical well, a big
bathtub up there and draining it properly, but that grating will also
allow the screening. If you can imagine that grating, it's louvered.
And those louvers will be pointed away from the balcony so if
you're at the balcony, and you look, you'll see the louvers. You'll
never see the mechanical equipment.
Mr. Caramagno: Okay.
Mr. Kritzman: That will also help control the sound away from the building.
Mr. Caramagno: Good. Thank you.
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Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any other questions for our petitioner? I don't see
anything. Is there anybody in the audience that wishes to speak
for or against this item? Seeing no one coming forward, I will
close the public hearing and ask for a motion.
On a motion by Long, seconded by Caramagno, and unanimously adopted, it was
#06-41-2018 RESOLVED, that the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition 2018-05-08-05
submitted by Brian Tominna requesting approval of all plans
required by Section 18.58 of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance
#543, as amended, regarding a proposal to construct additions
and remodel the interior and exterior of the existing restaurant
(One Under) at 35780 Five Mile Road, located on the north side
of Five Mile Road between Ellen Drive and Levan Road in the
Southeast % of Section 17, be approved subject to the following
conditions:
1. That the exterior modifications as depicted on the two (2)
Elevation Plans, both dated May 30, 2018, prepared by NSA
Architects, Engineers & Planners, are hereby approved and
shall be adhered to;
2. That only conforming signage is approved with this petition;
3. That no LED light band or exposed neon shall be permitted
on this site including, but not limited to, the building or
around the windows;
4. That unless approved by the proper local authority, any type
of exterior advertising, such as promotional flags, streamers
or sponsor vehicles designed to attract the attention of
passing motorists, shall be prohibited;
5. That the specific plans referenced in this approving
resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department
at the time the building permits are applied for; and
6. Pursuant to Section 19.10 of Ordinance #543, the Zoning
Ordinance of the City of Livonia, this approval is valid for a
period of ONE YEAR ONLY from the date of approval by
City Council, and unless a building permit is obtained, this
approval shall be null and void at the expiration of said
period.
Mr.Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution.
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ITEM #4 MOTION TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING C-1 District
Regulations
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is a motion to
hold a public hearing pursuant to Section 23.01(b) of Ordinance
#543, the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Livonia, as amended,
to determine whether to amend Section 10.03 Waiver Uses of
Article X— C-1 District Regulations, of the City of Livonia Zoning
Ordinance No. 543, as amended, to allow for establishments
having liquor licenses such as Class C, Tavern, Micro brewers
and Brewpubs, to operate in conjunction with restaurants and
other dining facilities.
Mr. Taormina: This is simply a request for the Planning Commission to set a
public hearing date for this proposed language amendment. This
would affect the C-1 zoning regulations to allow for liquor licenses
that would allow for the on-premise consumption of alcohol.
Mr. Wilshaw: Again, this is just a motion to set a public hearing date. We'll
discuss this in further detail once that date is set. Is there a
motion?
On a motion by Smiley, seconded by McCue, and unanimously adopted, it was
#06-42-2018 RESOLVED, that the City Planning Commission, pursuant to
Section 23.01(b) of Ordinance#543, the Zoning Ordinance of the
City of Livonia, as amended, does hereby establish and order that
a public hearing be held to determine whether to amend Section
10.03 Waiver Uses of Article X — C-1 District Regulations, of the
City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance No. 543, as amended, to allow
for establishments having liquor licenses such as Class C,
Tavern, Micro brewers and Brewpubs, to operate in conjunction
with restaurants and other dining facilities.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of such hearing shall be
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 23.05 of
Ordinance #543, the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Livonia, as
amended, and that thereafter there shall be a report and
recommendation submitted to the City Council.
Mr.Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
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ITEM #5 PETITION 2018-04-02-10 FELDMAN AUTO
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Petition 2018-
04-02-10 submitted by Feldman Automotive, Inc. requesting
waiver use approval pursuant to Section 11.03(g) of the City of
Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, to construct and
operate a used auto dealership with outdoor display of vehicles
(Feldman Pre-Owned Superstore) at 33850 Plymouth Road,
located on the north side of Plymouth Road between Farmington
and Stark Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 28.
Mr. Wilshaw: This item was tabled at our last meeting. Is there a motion to
remove this from the table?
On a motion by Long, seconded by Priddy, and unanimously adopted, it was
#06-43-2018 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on May 22, 2018, and JUNE
26, 2018, on Petition 2018-04-02-10 submitted by Feldman
Automotive, Inc. requesting waiver use approval pursuant to
Section 11.03(g) of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543,
as amended, to construct and operate a used auto dealership
with outdoor display of vehicles (Feldman Pre-Owned
Superstore) at 33850 Plymouth Road, located on the north side
of Plymouth Road between Farmington and Stark Roads in the
Southeast %of Section 28, which property is zoned M-1 and is in
the process of being rezoned to C-2, the Planning Commission
does hereby remove this item from the table.
Mr.Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
Mr. Taormina: In response to the concerns that were raised by the Planning
Commission at the previous meetings involving the review of this
item, several changes have been made to the plans. I'll just go
over those quickly. First, the exterior finishes on the building now
include a combination of aluminum composite metal panels,
smooth faced or burnished concrete masonry units, as well as
split-face concrete blocks along the base of the building and
E.I.F.S. If you recall, with the original plan, a much greater area
of the building was finished with the dryvit or the E.I.F.S.
material. That has been reduced substantially under the latest
proposal. Secondly, we have a fully detailed landscape plan that
has been submitted that illustrates the location, species,
quantities, and sizes of all plant materials, including additional
Norway Spruce trees in the northwest corner of the property
where a greenbelt is proposed in lieu of a masonry screen wall.
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Third, two wall signs that were previously shown on the east and
west elevations of the building have been removed. The revised
architectural drawing shows a single wall sign on the south
elevation, which is the side facing Plymouth Road. That sign is
about 82 square feet in area, which conforms with the ordinance.
Lastly, the updated plans include details of a monument sign.
The proposed six-foot high sign would be eight feet in length. It
reads "Feldman 1-800-Preowned Supercenter" with the size of
the message measuring no more than 30 square feet, also in
conformance with the ordinance. That sign would be centrally
located along the property's frontage on Plymouth Road. With
that, Mr. Chairman, I'd be happy to answer any questions.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you. Yes, there is no additional correspondence. Are
there any questions for our Planning staff? Seeing none, the
petitioner's counsel is here. Is there anything you would like to
add from what we've discussed so far?
Trey Brice, Jaffe, Raitt, Heuer & Weiss, 27777 Franklin Road, Suite 2500,
Southfield, Michigan 48034. We are the petitioner's counsel. No,
I think Mr. Taormina gave a good overview of where we are.
We've obviously been through several meetings and study
sessions with you all and have worked hard to make sure we're
presenting a good building that's going to help the neighborhood
as well as responding to the concerns that the Planning
Commission raised. We've responded to just about everything.
We shrunk the signage. We changed the outdoor material. John
Free, our architect is here. One of the requests was to have
materials, so he can speak to that because I know that was a
concern. We're just really looking forward to moving forward with
the project, bettering the neighborhood. We're going to bring
about 30 extra jobs with this facility, and if there's any questions,
I'd be happy to answer them. Probably the next point is the
materials, so we'll let John speak. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Sounds great. Thank you.
John Free, Cityscape Architects, Inc., 40850 Grand River Avenue, Suite 200, Novi,
Michigan 48375. Good evening. Thanks for having us over again.
As requested, we brought the exterior material board today.
Essentially, it's a pretty simple palate. Primarily a series of white
materials, split face block at the bottom. Fifty percent of the
facade is smooth burnished block. The top portion of the building
is going to be E.I.F.S. (inaudible)
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Mr. Wilshaw: You can hand the board over to Mr. Taormina and he'll pass it
along. Thank you. Is there anything else about the materials or
the architecture you'd like to address?
Mr. Free: It's a pretty simple palette, and I think the blue is there to indicate
where the entries are and to kind of attract the eye from the street,
whereas the rest of the building isn't going to distract too much
and just be a modern clean approach to a pre-owned car sales
facility.
Mr. Wilshaw: This is a color palette that is similar in nature to your new car retail
operations?
Mr. Free: Yes. Mr. Feldman's pre-owned store in Waterford has an identical
palette except obviously there's different ratios of E.I.F.S. and
there's no burnished block on that facility and there would be on
this one.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you. Do we have any questions for the petitioner?
Mr. Priddy: I was just looking at the palette and looking at the renderings. I
appreciate the reduction in the E.I.F.S. amount. Have you
considered eliminating the E.I.F.S. as in the first request?
Mr. Free: Traditionally, above glass we like to keep the materials lighter just
to minimize the structural weight. So we thought E.I.F.S. would
be an appropriate solution over the curtain wall system.
Mr. Priddy: Have you looked at possibly even eliminating the E.I.F.S. at least
on the front side? I mean it would probably look better without the
E.I.F.S., but I appreciate that you made changes thus far.
Mr. Free: Understood. I think what's nice is there is contrast between the
smooth, the ACM, and then the E.I.F.S. actually has some
texture. So a little contrast in appearance. It probably doesn't read
right on that rendering, but I think there's going to be some texture
difference that's going to be important.
Mr. Priddy: That's all. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any other questions? Is there anybody in the audience
that wishes to speak for or against the granting of this petition?
There is no one else in the audience. With that, is there any other
discussion on this item? Seeing none, a motion would be in order.
On a motion by McCue, seconded by Smiley, and adopted, it was
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#06-44-2018 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on May 22, 2018, and June 26,
2018, on Petition 2018-04-02-10 submitted by Feldman
Automotive, Inc. requesting waiver use approval pursuant to
Section 11.03(g) of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543,
as amended, to construct and operate a used auto dealership
with outdoor display of vehicles (Feldman Pre-Owned
Superstore) at 33850 Plymouth Road, located on the north side
of Plymouth Road between Farmington and Stark Roads in the
Southeast 1/4 of Section 28, which property is zoned M-1 and is in
the process of being rezoned to C-2, the Planning Commission
does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 2018-
04-02-10 be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That the site plan marked 1 dated June 22, 2018, as revised,
prepared by Alpine Engineering, Inc., is hereby approved
and shall be adhered to, except as modified below;
2. That the number of vehicles to be displayed outdoors shall
be limited to a total of 817 vehicles, and that no vehicle for
sale shall be displayed closer than twenty feet (20') from the
front lot line;
3. That except for what may be authorized under the Zoning
Ordinance as part of a temporary sales event, any type of
exterior advertising related to the sale of the vehicles
designed to attract the attention of passing motorists, such
as promotional flags or streamers, shall be prohibited;
4. That the display of any vehicles on car lifts is strictly
prohibited;
5. That there shall be no outdoor storage of auto parts,
equipment, scrap material, waste petroleum products,
junked, unlicensed or inoperable vehicles, or other similar
items in connection with this operation;
6. That the Landscape Plan and the Landscape Details
identified as Sheets L-1 and L-2, respectively, both dated
June 22, 2018, as revised, prepared by Allen Design, are
hereby approved and shall be adhered to, except that:
a. The red and sugar maples shall be replaced with one
or more species of large deciduous trees as listed in
Table 1 of Section 18.45 of the Zoning Ordinance; and
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b. Additional trees shall be provided along the west
property line where the commercial property abuts
residential;
7. That all disturbed lawn areas, including the Plymouth Road
right-of-way, but not including the detention basin below the
established high watermark, shall be sodded in lieu of hydro-
seeding;
8. That the New Lot Photometric plan identified as Sheet P-1
dated April 12, 2018, prepared by KEEN Technical
Solutions, LLC, is hereby approved and shall be adhered to,
except that the light levels for the first row of parking
adjacent to Plymouth Road shall be lowered to be consistent
with the light levels for the first row of parking approved for
the Feldman Chevrolet New Car dealership at 32570
Plymouth Road;
9. That the Elevation Plan marked Sheet Number A-211 dated
June 22, 2018, as revised, prepared by Cityscape Architects
Inc. is hereby approved and shall be adhered to;
10. That all rooftop mechanical equipment shall be concealed
from public view on all sides by screening that shall be of a
compatible character, material and color to other exterior
materials on the building;
11. That all parking spaces shall be double striped, including the
provision of barrier free parking with proper signage,
marking and configuration, and that all required customer
spaces be ten feet(10') in width by twenty feet(20') in length
as required;
12. Except that as shown on the approved site plan where a
greenbelt is shown in the northwest corner of the property,
a minimum six foot (6') high masonry screen wall shall be
constructed along the west property line adjacent to existing
residential zoning;
13. That the three walls of the trash dumpster area shall be
constructed out of building materials that shall complement
that of the building. The enclosure gates shall be of solid
panel steel construction or durable, long-lasting solid panel
fiberglass. The trash dumpster area shall be maintained and
when not in use closed at all times;
14. That only conforming signs are approved with this petition;
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15. That no LED lightband or exposed neon shall be permitted
on the site including, but not limited to, the building or around
the windows;
16. That no overhead speakers will be used inside or outside
the building;
17. That no repairs or maintenance work on vehicles shall be
conducted on this site;
18. That the specific plans referenced in this approving
resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department
at the time an occupancy permit is applied for; and
19. Pursuant to Section 19.10 of Ordinance #543, the Zoning
Ordinance of the City of Livonia, this approval is valid for a
period of ONE YEAR ONLY from the date of approval by
City Council, and unless a building permit is obtained, this
approval shall be null and void at the expiration of said
period.
FURTHER, the Planning Commission recommends the approval
of a Conditional Agreement limiting this waiver use to this user
only, with the provision to extend this waiver use approval to a
new user only upon approval of the new user by the City Council.
Subject to the preceding conditions, this petition is approved for
the following reasons:
1. That the proposed use complies with all of the general
waiver use standards and requirements as set forth in
Section 19.06 of the Zoning Ordinance #543;
2. That the subject site has the capacity to accommodate the
proposed use; and
3. That the proposed use is compatible to and in harmony with
the surrounding uses in the area.
Mr. Wilshaw: Is there any discussion?
Mr. Taormina: We do have some corrected dates. All the most recent plans will
have the date of June 22, 2018. So that is going to apply to
Condition #1 with respect to the Site Plan, Condition #6 with
respect to the Landscape Plan, and Condition #9 with respect to
the Elevation Plans. Those dates would all be changed to June
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22. This is information that we received very late on Friday. And
a minor correction applies to Condition #12. We'll make the
change but the option of getting a variance from the Zoning Board
of Appeals, he is showing in the north portion of the site where it
abuts residential, the greenbelt in lieu of the required wall. So we
will modify the language to reflect the fact that it is what the site
plan shows and what the Planning Commission is approving this
evening. Condition #14 really is moot at this point with the
approval of the Elevation Plans and the other signage, so we can
eliminate Condition #14 since he is only showing a single wall
sign. I believe that is it. You can keep Condition #14 if you want
to, but it is consistent with the latest plans that have been
provided to us.
Mr. Wilshaw: And the maker and supporter of the motion are fine with those?
Ms. McCue: Yes.
Ms. Smiley: Yes.
Mr. Wilshaw: Just in case there's anybody changing their mind, we will go
ahead and try the vote over again.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: McCue, Smiley, Long, Priddy, Caramagno
NAYS: Ventura, Wilshaw
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Mr.Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution.
ITEM #6 APPROVAL OF MINUTES 1,124TH Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Approval of
the Minutes of the 1,124th Public Hearings and Regular Meeting
held on June 5, 2018.
On a motion by Long, seconded by Priddy, and unanimously adopted, it was
#06-45-2018 RESOLVED, that the Minutes of 1,124th Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting held by the Planning Commission on June 5,
2018, are hereby approved.
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A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Long, Priddy, Caramagno, Wilshaw
NAYS: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: McCue, Smiley, Ventura
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously . ',opted, the 1,125th Public
Hearings and Regular Meeting held on June 26, 201 :, as adjourned at 8:44 p.m.
CITY • • NNING COMMISSION
Sam C. ramagno, Secretary
ATTEST: �'
Ian Wilshaw, Chairman