HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 2018-02-13 MINUTES OF THE 1,117th PUBLIC HEARINGS AND REGULAR MEETING 1
HELD BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, February 13, 2018, the City Planning Commission of the City of
Livonia held its 1,117th Public Hearings and Regular Meeting in the Livonia City
Hall, 33000 Civic Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. Ian Wilshaw, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Members present: Sam Caramagno Glen Long Betsy McCue
Carol Smiley Kevin Priddy Peter Ventura
Ian Wilshaw
Members absent: None
Mr. Mark Taormina, Planning Director, and Ms. Margie Watson, Program
Supervisor, were also present.
Chairman Wilshaw informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda
involves a rezoning request, this Commission makes a recommendation to the City
Council who, in turn, will hold its own public hearing and make the final
determination as to whether a petition is approved or denied. The Planning
Commission holds the only public hearing on a request for preliminary plat and/or
vacating petition. The Commission's recommendation is forwarded to the City
Council for the final determination as to whether a plat is accepted or rejected. If a
petition requesting a waiver of use or site plan approval is denied tonight, the
petitioner has ten days in which to appeal the decision, in writing, to the City
Council. Resolutions adopted by the City Planning Commission become effective
seven (7) days after the date of adoption. The Planning Commission and the
professional staff have reviewed each of these petitions upon their filing. The staff
has furnished the Commission with both approving and denying resolutions, which
the Commission may, or may not, use depending on the outcome of the
proceedings tonight.
ITEM #1 PETITION 2018-01-01-02 CLIFF HEELEY
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda, Petition 2018-
01-01-02 submitted by Cliff Heeley pursuant to Section 23.01 of
the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended,
requesting to rezone the properties at 20209, 20219, 20225,
20235 and 20307 Farmington Road, located on the west side of
Farmington Road between Norfolk Avenue and Eight Mile Road
in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 4, from R-U-F (Rural Urban Farm)
to OS (Office Services).
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Mr. Taormina: This is a request to rezone five contiguous parcels from R-U-F,
Rural Urban Farm, to OS, Office Services. These five parcels are
located on the west side of Farmington between Norfolk and Eight
Mile Roads. Altogether, the site constitutes roughly five acres with
363 feet of frontage on Farmington and a depth of 600 feet.
Houses currently exist on two of the five parcels, 20235 and
20225 Farmington Road. These and all the accessory buildings
would be removed in order to make room for the new
development. The remaining three parcels on the site are vacant.
The purpose of the rezoning is to allow for the development of a
skilled nursing and living facility that is currently being referred to
as Livonia Healthcare. The operator of the facility would
specialize in the treatment and rehabilitation of persons with
severe and traumatic brain and spinal cord injuries. The average
length of stay for residents undergoing treatment and therapy
would range from about three to nine months. The type of use
proposed is allowed within an OS office zoning district with waiver
use approval under the provisions set forth in Section 9.03(g) of
the Zoning Ordinance. In looking at the abutting land uses,
immediately to the north of these properties is a five building
office complex that is zoned OS, Office Services. To the east
across Farmington Road are a variety of office buildings as well
as the George Subu's Leather Bottle restaurant, which is zoned
C-2. Directly to the west of the subject parcels is the On the Pond
condominium development which is zoned R-7, Multiple Family,
and lying immediately to the south are residential homes under
the R-3 zoning classification. Those homes are within the
Windridge Village Subdivision. Looking at the conceptual site
plan that was submitted with application, the plans show, for
Phase I of the project, the construction of a one-story skilled
nursing facility that would contain 24 beds. In addition, there
would be two free-standing buildings, an elder care stepdown unit
and a free-standing medical clinic and rehab gym that would be
located at the rear of the complex. Those are the two smaller
buildings located to the west of the larger building. The main
building would measure roughly 21,990 square feet, and the two
smaller buildings, the elder care stepdown and the medical clinic
and rehab gym, would each measure 3,810 square feet and
1,988 square feet, respectively. The building would be setback
from the south property line and the rear of the abutting lots along
Norfolk Avenue roughly 118 feet. A similar setback is shown for
the buildings from the west property line abutting On the Pond
condominiums. The drive aisle that would be closest to the
residential lots is shown set back roughly 82 feet from the south
property line. The plans do show a future 12-room addition that
would measure 6,985 square feet. This would bring the entire
facility to a square footage of roughly 34,773 square feet,
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representing a lot coverage of roughly 16 percent. Twenty-seven
parking spaces are shown on the site plan. The Future Land Use
Plan does designate this area as Medium Density Residential,
which typically correspondence to a density of between four and
14 dwelling units per acre. With that, Mr. Chairman, I can read
out the departmental correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, please.
Mr. Taormina: There are several items of correspondence. The first item is from
the Engineering Division, dated January 30, 2018, which reads
as follows: "In accordance with your request, the Engineering
Division has reviewed the above referenced rezoning petition.
We have no objections to the proposed rezoning at this time. The
existing parcels are assigned the addresses of#20209, #20219,
#20225, #20235 and #20307 Farmington Road. The legal
descriptions provided are missing information, and should be
revised once the properties are combined. For purposes of this
petition, the following description should be used: The South
363.00 feet of the North 1,188.00 feet of the East % of the East
of the Northeast % of Section 4, Town 1 South, Range 9 East,
City of Livonia, Wayne County, Michigan except the East 60.00
feet thereof. The existing parcels are currently serviced by public
utilities, but the submitted drawings do not show proposed
connections or calculations, so we cannot determine impacts to
the existing systems at this time. The developer has been in
contact with this Department, and is aware of the site plan
requirements including storm water detention and the
requirements for certifying that the storm sewer outlet has the
available capacity to handle the additional flows from the site. It
should be noted that the developer will also be required to obtain
Wayne County permits for any work within the Farmington Road
right-of-way. We will provide a detailed review once full
Engineering site plans have been submitted for approval." The
letter is signed by David W. Lear, P.E., Assistant City Engineer.
The second letter is from the Treasurer's Department, dated
January 26, 2018, which reads as follows: "In accordance with
your request, the Treasurer's Office has reviewed the addresses
connected with the above noted petition. At this time, there are
current Real Property Taxes due, as shown below: $1,513.17
Winter 2017; Current if paid by 2/14/2018."The letter is signed by
Lynda Scheel, Treasurer. The third letter is from the Finance
Department, dated January 30, 2018, which reads as follows: "1
have reviewed the addresses connected with the above noted
petition. As there are no outstanding amounts receivable, general
or water and sewer, I have no objections to the proposal." The
letter is signed by Coline Coleman, Chief Accountant. We
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received an email from an individual dated February 6, 2018,
which reads as follows: "To the people making the rules on this
at the Planning Commission, for #2018-01-01-02 rezone off of
Farmington. Please think like you live at On the Pond when you
vote. Farmington Road does not have families 'living'at the space
some development want to change from residential. Thank you
for sending this out to me. I am sorry I did not get my reply back
to you yesterday. I am replying by email because I will be away
for the meeting. I understand building is going to happen, but I
am very opposed to having the back side of commercial looking
buildings in my residential view. We already have an ugly wall in
the front of the complex to cover ugly commercial space. I am
asking for a huge buffer of very well maintained green space, and
strict rules of workers out there if the city agrees to anything other
than private owned residential space. 1 am in the back corner.
This really affects my living space I think. I am opposed to added
noise, smells from trucks, smells from trash. People wandering
around that don't have ownership. There is plenty of empty space
already commercial, can't we keep this for private homes? Thank
you. Please really consider my plea." Again, the email was
provided by Edith Szubeczak, 33561 Pondview, Livonia 48152.
Mr. Wilshaw: In addition, I believe we received some additional
correspondence that just came in today from folks that are in the
audience. I think they will speak to those items. We'll hear from
them.
Mr. Taormina: I did fail to read one other email correspondence, if I can read
that into the record.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes.
Mr. Taormina: This was an email that the Planning Department received on
January 31, 2018, which reads as follows: "I am very concerned
about the proposal to rezone a parcel on Farmington between
Norfolk and 8 Mile from residential to commercial. I believe this
would lower my property values; I have safety concerns. There is
a large amount of currently vacant office/medical space in close
proximity to this property. The K-Mart site as well as the Kroger
complex has a large vacancy rate as well. I believe the Master
Plan calls for homes to attract new younger families to the city."
Susan Mendyk, 20125 Myron Drive, Livonia, MI 548152.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any questions of the Planning Director? Seeing none,
is the petitioner here this evening? We will need your name and
address for the record please.
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Cliff Heeley, LW Livonia, L.L.C., 1630 Des Peres Road, Suite 310, St. Louis,
Missouri 63131.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Heeley. What would you like to add to what Mark
has already said about your proposal.
Mr. Heeley: I brought a slide presentation if I could. Second slide please. As I
said, my name is Cliff Heeley. I'm with Rangecomm
Development. I am the applicant on this project. I'm here tonight
to discuss our intention to build a $15 million specialty skilled
nursing facility on the property. The facility will specialize in
traumatic brain injury and spinal cord injury. These facilities
provide 24-hour in-patient care through individualized care plans
for medically complex cases. This type of facility provides a
residential alternative for recovery as opposed to institutional
hospital settings. This type of facility is licensed by the Michigan
Department of Health and Human Services and requires a
Certificate of Need. This Certificate was received on February 5.
In order to construct our skilled nursing facility, as the staff report
suggests, we need to rezone to the office classification and then
achieve waiver use approval. As the staff report said, the City's
Future Land Use Map for the parcel currently calls for Medium
Density Residential between four and 14 units per acre. This
would be between 20 and 70 units. RC classification would be
between 50 two-bedroom units or 60 one-bedroom units. These
would be a two-story construction. Our project would be single
story construction. Phase I, which just to clarify, and actually we
can move forward to the landscape exhibit. Phase I would just be
the eastern building. The two buildings on the back would be part
of Phase II. Phase I would consist of 4.8 units per acre on the
lower end of this density. If we were to have the substantial need
required to expand the facility, it would bring the entire density up
to 9.6, which would be about the halfway point in the density
range for the Future Land Use. That would not occur for probably
two to three years and then it would require a Certificate of Need
issued by the State before we could proceed with that. As I
mentioned, it's going to be single story. It's going to be quiet, and
it's going to be low impact. Skilled nursing facilities are often
located on the edges of single family, multi-family and commercial
spaces. Part of the reason for that is being a single story
residential look. It's very transitional. We feel it would be a good
spot for the site. We considered a number of things when
designing our site, not the least of which was the setback
requirements and the practicalities of the site. When looking at
our western site border, a 50-foot setback would be typical. Upon
completion of Phase I, we will have a 256-foot setback and that
would be before the berm and the driveway on the condominium
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space. If and when Phase II is developed, the setback will be 118
feet. We also want to show deference to our southern neighbors.
We've pushed the building as far northeast as we can. Obviously,
those lots have been vacant and we understand that the residents
have probably become accustomed to an open feel. So we've got
118 foot setback there and we would be looking to either build a
privacy fence, if that's what the residents want, or if they want the
open feel and the city will allow a variance, leave that open and
just do a very nice landscaping package there. As I've said, we've
done everything we can to move this site to the northeast, but I'd
be very interested in any questions from both our future neighbors
or the Planning Commission, anything we can address, be happy
to answer.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, sir. I'm sure we'll have some questions from the staff
here. We'll start with the Commission. Is there any questions for
the representative of the petitioner?
Ms. Smiley: I was wondering why you picked this piece of property because
it is already zoned for Medium Density housing.
Mr. Heeley: Typically, that is the use classification and the type of area where
skilled nursing facilities go. That would be a Medium Density,
either a multi-family or a townhome-type area is typically where it
lands next to commercial, in between that and single family.
Ms. Smiley: Okay, but it is zoned for families and homes, not really zoned for
office.
Mr. Heeley: Correct, but since it is an in-patient facility and it is residential,
that's typically where these would go.
Ms. Smiley: All right. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: The one thing I failed to mention, I think it bears repeating, is
what's before us tonight is the rezoning of the property. The site
plan that we see is conceptual and gives an idea as to how the
site could developed but not the specifics of how the site will be
developed. That would come back in the future action of this
petitioner if this goes forward, but we want to stay focused on the
rezoning of the property and the use of the property at this time.
So that will be a theme that I'll try to keep us to as we go forward.
Other questions?
Mr. Ventura: Do you own the property now?
Mr. Heeley: We are under contract for the property.
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Mr. Ventura: So you don't own it but you have the right to purchase it.
Mr. Heeley: Correct.
Mr. Ventura: Do you own and/or operate any facilities like this anywhere else
in the State of Michigan?
Mr. Heeley: Our investment company partner does not currently own any in
the State of Michigan. We have operating partners that do
operate, but we don't personally own one.
Mr. Ventura: And my Chairman's comments notwithstanding, you mentioned
the efforts you've made to buffer the surrounding residents by
leaving big setbacks. However, I don't see any way for you to do
that in the southwest corner where you show, and it's more clearly
shown on the graphic site plan, not this one, and the typical buffer
between residential and non-residential uses is a wall. I don't see
any way for you to put a berm down there in the southwest corner
where you're going to have a significant amount of land area
given over to storm retention. The other solution for surface
retention is underground.
Mr. Heeley: Correct.
Mr. Ventura: Would you be willing to consider that, while I understand that
would be significantly more expensive.
Mr. Heeley: Absolutely. This is preliminary and obviously the first draw at it.
Mr. Ventura: That would be a significant impact.
Mr. Long: The patients here, they are bound for the most part to the inside,
right? They're not going to be out rehabilitating outside.
Mr. Heeley: Absolutely. A lot of these patients are going to be on ventilators
or tracs. This is someone who could have been in a horrific car
accident. They're not up and about and roaming the property.
Mr. Long: I just wanted to make sure that was clear. There's won't be any
activity happening outside. It's all confined within the buildings.
Mr. Heeley: Absolutely.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you for your comments, Mr. Heeley. Is there anybody in
the audience that wishes to speak for or against this item? Please
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come forward and start with your name and address for our
record.
Todd Salo, 33524 Norfolk, Livonia, Michigan 48152. I submitted correspondence
earlier today that did not get read, so I'll just start with that.
Hopefully, it's in your packets. Does everybody have that? You
have the petition?
Mr. Wilshaw: We do.
Mr. Salo: Do I need to read this or would you like me to read it into the
record?
Mr. Wilshaw: You can summarize the points if you'd like, the ones that are most
important to you. It's your time.
Mr. Salo: Okay. We're requesting the Planning Commission recommend to
the City Council that the petition be denied. The proposed change
of zoning does not conform to the Master Plan, which designates
these properties as Medium Density residential. The State of
Michigan CON Certificate of Need summary of nursing homes
shows 500 excess beds in northwest Wayne County. I attached
a chart there for you showing the excess bed need. I've also
attached a chart showing what the current occupancy rate of
these homes in northwest Wayne County are and you'll see that
the occupancy rate is approximately 83 percent. Which gets to
the point that I'm not sure there is a strong need for this. Combine
that fact with the strong likelihood of Michigan auto insurance
reform, makes this project less likely to be successful. Most of
these patients, TBI patients, are as a result of automotive
accidents, and I'm sure that you're probably aware that Michigan
has the highest automobile insurance rates in the country and
that's a direct result of the unlimited lifetime medical benefits
through that thing. Obviously, if that not continues, so there's a
lot of momentum in the Michigan State Legislature in the last year
or so and even more. Right now you can see that there's a lot of
proposals going forth to try to change the Michigan automobile
insurance reform. Like I said, this could impact the viability of this
business. Therefore, we could be left with another vacant office
building which would cause obviously a devaluation of our
properties along with safety issues, similar to what was
experienced at the former Ardmore mental hospital site just a
couple hundred yards from us down on Farmington Road. I'm
sure most of you have been in Livonia for quite some time and
are familiar with that thing that was finally converted over to a
beautiful neighborhood in 2003. There are many other vacant
land, vacant buildings and options for the petitioner to consider in
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Livonia. I've listed a few of those sites that I quickly was able to
find. There's the empty Kmart site. There's also the former Ashley
Court on Seven Mile. If you'll recall that last year, or a couple
years ago, I guess, it was 2016, the debacle that occurred there
that they kicked out all the residents with less than 24-hours
notice. That site has actually reopened now under the name of
Aspen, and there's four buildings there and it looks like there's
very, very few people in those buildings. That would be another
site for the petitioner to consider. Traffic issues. There's a Livonia
Public School bus stop right at our corner at Farmington and
Norfolk, and it is already difficult to enter or exit both sides of
Norfolk. The traffic count volume is approaching 30,000 between
Eight Mile and Norfolk. I think part of that is the industrial
development along Eight Mile between Farmington and
Middlebelt has increased traffic, and if you go Norfolk Street itself
is the only direct route between Farmington Road and Merriman
between Seven and Eight Mile. There's a school back there that
a lot of people use. The traffic is building on that corner there.
Unfortunately, our neighborhood has already experienced two
traffic accidents at the corner of Farmington and Norfolk. Safety
issues. We are very blessed to have some younger families in
our neighbor. There's five children right now under the age of six
living in homes on Norfolk that are directly adjacent to the
proposed development. We have already witnessed employees
from other office facilities along Farmington Road wandering
through our neighborhood on their lunch and break times.
Obviously, during the summer, but we see a lot of people
wandering around. I'm not sure TBI patients, most of these
patients, my understanding, are transitional patients, people who
have been released from a hospital and they don't quite be able
to make it home so these people are not immobile. These people
have the ability to move around. If you look at the, you know,
think as far as, um, you know, they're unpredictable. Let me just
put it that way. So anything could happen and obviously their
point on this would be that this proposal, this is a 24/7 operation.
I mean there could be ambulances coming in and going
throughout the night. And obviously people taking breaks in the
middle of the night too. So in summary, we believe this rezoning
would not conform to Livonia's family first philosophy and urge
you to follow your Commission predecessors from both 1989 and
1999 and recommend denial. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Salo. I appreciate that. Also in Mr. Salo's letter
was a copy of a signed petition from a number of residents asking
that the petition be denied. That will be part of our record. Next?
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Lawrence Kwiatkowski 33410 Norfolk, Livonia, Michigan. Good evening,
everyone. We have lived in this home for 29 years and have been
residents of Livonia for 42 years. Our home is in the Pine Creek
subdivision adjacent to the southern border of the properties
which have been referred to the Commission for consideration to
be rezoned from Rural Urban Farm to Office Services. My wife
and I, along with our neighbors, request that this petition to
rezone the property be denied. In the City of Livonia
Winter/Spring 2018 publication, Mayor Dennis Wright stated the
following: "Judging by things they are saying about Livonia in
recent months, there's a lot that's great about our community! We
had one of the biggest online real estate search engines,
Realtor.com, tell us that Livonia has been the second hottest real
estate market in the country for millennials in 2017. Livonia is also
among the Top 100 Best Cities to Raise Kids in the Nation,
according to the National Council for Home Safety and Security.
This rating fits in with our "Family First" motto. The proposed
rezoning of the subject property directly conflicts with the Master
Plan of the City. That Plan limits the subject property to medium
density residential property. The proposed office/business use,
especially a business that would be engaged in a 24/7 operation,
is a concern to me and my neighbors. The five acres in question
are suitable and desirable for housing. People want to move to
our city. People want to raise their families here. People want to
live in Livonia, a city with the motto "Family First." Thank you very
much.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Kwiatkowski.
Mr. Kwiatkowski:I also have more signatures on the petition that was initially
submitted. Should I give that to Marge?
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, please. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Is there anyone else wishing to speak for or against this item?
Tony Varlesi, 33676 Norfolk, Livonia, Michigan. Good evening. My property backs
up to the property that's trying to be rezoned right now.
Commissioners, based on the reasons as stated below, and for
all the residents of Livonia, I/we are requesting that the mentioned
petition be denied. Existing empty commercial buildings. If you
take a drive just north of Plymouth and Farmington Road to just
south of 8 Mile and Farmington Road, east and west of Seven
Mile Road between Farmington Road and Newburgh, and Eight
Mile Road between Newburgh and Farmington Road, you can
see how many vacant commercial buildings/properties there are.
Many of these empty commercial properties would be well suited
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for any type of nursing facility. Why would it be necessary to build
another commercial building, right in the middle of a residential
area, when any one of these vacant buildings that I have
mentioned can be structurally modified to accommodate a
nursing facility? Property value. In regards to property value,
would think that all present, including the Planning Commission
members present, would agree that by constructing a commercial
building right dead center in a residential neighborhood would
drastically decrease the value of existing homes in the area.
Nobody wants to look outside into their backyard only to see a
commercial building facing them. This would hinder, decrease the
value of our homes drastically. Safety issues. Our property, as
well as the others that are adjacent to the property requesting
rezoning are not allowed fences. There are children in the area
whose residents would be facing the proposed commercial
structure. How do we keep these families with small children safe
and let them play in the comfort and security of their backyard
without having a parent, adult with the children at all times? Also
not to mention the carbon monoxide fumes from all the vehicles
entering, exiting this facility. How do we keep our families safe
and ensure that the residents are not inhaling these fumes on a
daily basis for whatever time this facility is opened, especially in
the summer when our residents are enjoying having their
windows opened, enjoying activities in their backyards, BBQ's,
etc. In closing, I would think that the Planning Commission wants
to do what is best for the City of Livonia and its residents that
make up this great city. Can you, the Planning Commission,
honestly say that by allowing the mentioned petition to pass that
this is in the best interests of Livonia, and its residents, in view of
all the empty commercial properties already constructed? Thank
you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Varlesi. Is there anyone else wishing to speak for
or against? Hello, sir.
Scott Pennington, 33638 Norfolk, Livonia, Michigan. I'm on the southern border of
the proposed property. Just real quick and try not to repeat some
things that have already been said here, but about 20 years ago
when my wife and I were looking at purchasing our house, we
talked to the Planning Commission about what type of
development could go into this property. It was a concern of ours
at that time, and we were told that it would be some sort of a
transitional residential development according to the Master Plan
for the city. And now the request is being made to rezone it to
Office and then additional waivers on top of that which don't fit
the original Master Plan. In fact, several years ago, the current
owner tried to develop the property. Actually, he had one parcel
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instead of the four parcels. He had one parcel he was trying to
develop it into condominiums, and the Planning Commission
turned it down at that time because there wasn't ample property
for him to safely develop the condominiums to provide enough
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Planning Commission asked at that time if the property owner had
tried to acquire the lots that were north of this parcel, and he said
he had but he was unable to do it. Now, apparently the lots are
all available for development and perhaps a residential
development could be constructed on that site that would fit the
Master Plan of the city. A couple concerns with the proposed
development. I mentioned it doesn't fit the footprint, the traditional
footprint of the Planning Commission. It was mentioned earlier a
24-hour facility operating adjacent to homes with very young
children, late night activity as well as light pollution and the effect
that could have on the residents living right next to the property.
A concern is the track record of the operator of the property. It's
been mentioned also the level of vacancy of offices and nursing
homes in the area. Does the future operator of the property have
the financial wherewithal to be able to successfully run the
business so we don't end up with more vacant commercial space
in our city? Commitment of the property owner to follow through
on some of the promises in the proposal. You know, the way the
plans are developed, there's things in there where they are, you
know, the property line it's exceeding what the requirements are
from residential, etc. As the development proceeds, if it was
approved, is the property owner going to be held to those
standards to make sure that they don't come back at a later date
and all of a sudden start to encroach on some of those promises
that have been made. Again, our desire is to protect our families'
quality of life in Livonia. Livonia is a great city for families as well
as to preserve our property values. The property owner is aware
of the designation of the property when they acquired the
property. Now to come back at this point and ask for waivers
against the Master Plan of the city, that's I think why we're here
standing in support of asking you to deny this request. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Pennington. Good evening, ma'am.
Renee Pawloski, 33486 Norfolk, Livonia, Michigan. Hi. I wanted to offer a little
different perspective. I am a physical therapist and during my
education, I spent a four week clinical rotation at a very similar
skilled nursing facility on the west side of the state. While I was
there for 14 weeks, two people actually, escaped is the wrong
word, but they left without permission, and they were wandering
and they had to go find them. My lot would go right up against the
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parking lot. I've worked with patients with traumatic brain injury,
and while some will be on ventilators, some will be immobile,
some might not be responsive. They are there to get better. So
they will become mobile; they will walk. They might walk them
outside to work on balance or different surfaces like over grass
and that kind of thing. So they will be able to have access to . . .
usually it will be with someone, but if they get away, and I'm sitting
in the back of my house where all my windows are, and someone
who is confused, because you have confusion after traumatic
brain injury, they don't know where they are. They can become
agitated. In my 14 weeks there, I almost got bit. I got almost
kicked and almost punched. So that gives me concern with it
being, even if it is 30 feet farther back, it's still looking into my
backyard all the time, into my window, into my life. That's all.
Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, ma'am. Is there anyone else in the audience wishing
to speak for or against this item? Ma'am, please come up to the
podium. That way we can hear and also the rest of the audience
can hear. Thank you so much.
Nancy LaFluer, 33485 Norfolk, Livonia, Michigan. I'm here to support my neighbors
for all the above-mentioned reasons. But I did have a question for
the petitioner. You mentioned there was going to be 24 beds and
only 27 parking spaces. Do you think that's sufficient?
Mr. Heeley: For the first phase, yes. That is . . .
Ms. LaFluer: How many staff would you have?
Mr. Wilshaw: Ma'am, please direct your questions my way, and then we'll have
the petitioner answer all your questions.
Ms. LaFluer: All right. That was my only question.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay. So you're asking about the . . .
Ms. LaFluer: Parking spaces.
Mr. Wilshaw: The parking. Okay. Very good. We will have him answer those
questions.
Ms. LaFluer: Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Anyone else in audience wishing to speak'?
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Stephen Hung, 33562 Norfolk, Livonia, Michigan. I guess I'm generally against this
as well. We actually have three of the kids that were mentioned
in that petition, 2, 3, 6. And they already take off into that field
right now. To have them wander into this commercial area and
possible get run over by a car or wander somewhere is a big
concern of mine. Just when we moved in there, we knew that
something would eventually get built there, and the prospect of
having neighbors is a better one for me. It's what our family would
want. The traffic on our Farmington right in that area is pretty busy
as well. I know it's less dense, but with employees there, it sounds
like they're going to need a very high employee to patient ratio.
There's going to be a lot of traffic going in there, plus commercial
vehicles coming in and out all the time. Like we mentioned before,
there's already been a few accidents in that area. The stretch
from Eight Mile to Seven Mile, there are no other stop lights night
now, and during rush hour, it is a risk trying to pull in and out of
there. Adding to that density, it's troubling to me as well. It might
get worse. And then I guess the last thing, as I was sitting there,
I'm looking at these pictures. There's a parking lot that's going to
be built now in my backyard and probably needs to be lit at night.
There could be a light on forever at that point, not to mention the
fact that there might be people looking out into our backyard now.
It makes me feel a little uneasy. Anyways, those are my main
concerns, and I'm sure they're shared by my neighbors as well.
Thank you. I.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Hung. Just for the residents' knowledge as well,
typically any time there is an office or a commercial zoning or any
sort of non-residential zoning abutting residential, a wall is
required between those properties. It can be waived by the City
Council in lieu of a landscape buffer, berm, things like that. So
typically, what you would see in this type of parcel, if it was to be
redeveloped as office, would be a wall separating the two parcels.
In lieu of that, potentially a landscape butter. I just wanted to at
least make you aware of that to the folks listening. The petitioner,
if you would like to please come forward again, Mr. Heeley. You
heard a few questions about parking and how many employees
you would have there. If you would like to answer those.
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Mr. Heeley: Yes, absolutely. In terms of the parking question first, I believe
the city requires one to three beds to parking spaces. We found
that doesn't typically work for this type of use. We're going to have
about 12 employees and 24 beds. Twenty-seven is actually
probably one or two more spaces than we need, but it keeps
people having to circle the parking lot if they're waiting for a shift I
change or something like that. In terms of the traffic situation, as
was mentioned, I fully appreciate the concerns there. If this were
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to go to a Medium Density residential, there could be anywhere
between 20 and 70 units there, which would be significantly more
than we would be generating from a density standpoint if each
unit had two cars, that sort of thing. But we are conscious of that
and would do our best to keep the dog off your lawn, as it were.
We're very happy to build either landscaping or a very nice wall
or whatever it is that would be most accommodating for you as
neighbors.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Heeley. Is there anything else based on the
comments that you heard from residents that you'd like to
address?
Mr. Heeley: Just two more things. We're also very sensitive to the views and
so we have designed our building so that there would never be
any back of the house or anything ugly facing. It would be a
residential look that would be facing to the borders of the
properties, in addition to being as far from your guys' borders as
possible. As was mentioned, typically in a waiver use, the city is
going to have a great deal of control over all the design elements.
We have to come to them in terms of setbacks or construction
materials or anything along those lines. So it's not like we would
be free-range out there putting up any ugly building or office-
looking structure. That sort of thing.
Mr. Wilshaw: Mr. Heeley, it looks like Mr. Taormina has put on the screen a
conceptual rendering of what that building may look like if you
want to touch on some of the materials that you're using.
Mr. Heeley: Yeah, just to address. There's going to be some stone elements,
decorative hardy board, a few painted areas, typical residential-
style roof, and nothing ultramodern or flashy or that would be out
of place in a residential setting.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you. Is there any other questions for the petitioner from the
Planning Commission?
Mr. Caramagno: Mr. Heeley, the question was asked earlier why this location and
to build on that, what other locations have you looked at in the
area and why or why not?
Mr. Heeley: Sure. We had looked at a number of the more commercial
locations. Obviously, just northeast of the site there's some
property available there. Part of the issue with that is we've got
families coming once a week to visit a loved one who's trying to
recover, and it's not conducive to have them in a commercial, be
it a strip mall or abutting to another commercial property, where
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there's cross access. People are concentrating on their loved
ones and that's what they're there for. In terms of other properties
at this point, our CON is site specific, so we are approved for this
site particularly at this point.
Mr. Caramagno: Patients that come to this facility. They come from where? Do you
get referrals from all hospitals, a certain hospital?
Mr. Heeley: Yeah.
Mr. Caramagno: A range of hospitals? How does that work?
Mr. Heeley: It's going to be the hospitals in the region. They're going to come
by transport so it's not going to be lights and sirens. They'll be
brought after a two-day stay or so in the hospital to this facility.
This facility provides the care that would otherwise be done at the
hospital at about half the cost of the health system. So it makes
sense for them to come here.
Mr. Caramagno: When you say "range of hospitals,"what hospitals in this area are
you speaking about?
Mr. Heeley: This could go all the way out to Ann Arbor, Beaumont. Typically,
it's Level One traumas centers.
Mr. Caramagno: So if you had a radius, you're talking Ann Arbor, you're talking
maybe up toward Pontiac, around through Detroit and then south
to what?
Mr. Heeley: We are more focused on the Detroit Metro to be honest.
Mr. Caramagno: That is kind of the Detroit Metro area. So you could have folks
coming from a 30-40 mile radius coming to this location?
Mr. Heeley: Yes.
Mr. Caramagno: Okay. Thank you.
Ms. McCue: Could you just address for the moment the bed availability that
was discussed, because my question is, what's going to set this
particular setup apart from what's already out there?
Mr. Heeley: Yeah, absolutely. The CON beds are divided into different
categories. The beds for traumatic brain injury and spinal cord
injury are separate from general population skilled nursing beds
that would be used for long-term care. These are from a different
pool of beds and are for a different use. That's why we were
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issued a Certificate of Need despite, as the gentleman said, there
is a long-term care bed over-population currently.
Ms. McCue: So there's many of those institutions that may have bed
availability but not the specific ability to give that type of care?
Mr. Heeley: Correct, and also there are facility level requirements as
mentions, the tracs and vents and that sort of thing that make it
functionally obsolete to try and do it in another building.
Ms. McCue: Okay. And then, one more question. Can you just reiterate for me,
too, who is primarily paying for the care of the patients?
Mr. Heeley: It's going to be private pay and insurance companies.
Ms. McCue: So Medicare, Medicaid.
Mr. Heeley: No.
Ms. McCue: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Long: Ms. McCue touched on the Certificate of Need and I understand
how that's different. The question also came up from the young
lady who has worked in similar facilities of people getting out.
What kind of security do you have in place in your facilities?
Mr. Heeley: As mentioned, part of it is just a patient to caregiver ratio. In the
case of the 24-bed facility, we're talking about a two-to-one staff
to patient ratio. I can't speak to that particular facility. As
mentioned, we'd be happy to have the wall there if that adds a
feeling of security. Obviously, there are protocols you have to
have in place in any facility be it regular, skilled, memory care or
something like this.
Mr. Long: The question was posed about, or it was inferred that there could
be 24-hour intake, but that's not the case with your facility,
correct?
Mr. Heeley: No. It's not going to be 24-hour. They're going to be discharged
from the hospital during normal daytime hours and transported
over to the facility.
Mr. Long: It was brought up the potential for the auto insurance reform and
the possibility in the State of the Michigan, if that happens, that
the funds to pay for care like this may dry up in Michigan. Have
you and your partners been following that? Do you think that is a
real concern?
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Mr. Heeley: Yeah, it isn't a concern for our operating partners. They spent a
lot of time researching the market for need and, obviously, how
they get paid is very important to them, but they're not concerned
about it at this time.
Mr. Long: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Priddy: Good evening. Just one quick question. With a 24-hour operation,
how do your employees handle shift change? Do they do eight
hours or 12? Could you conceivably be doing like midnight where
there's traffic being generated?
Mr. Heeley: It's typically going to be eight-hour shifts. There will be an evening
turn but we're talking about four cars switching over at that time.
Mr. Priddy: There's no patients being in-taked at night or anything like that?
Mr. Heeley: Correct.
Mr. Priddy: Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any other questions? Seeing none, I will close the public
hearing.
Mr. Long: Can I ask a question of Mr. Salo?
Mr. Wilshaw: Certainly.
Mr. Long: Mr. Salo, you certainly did a lot of legwork with your research.
This piece of work that you did here, what was the source of this?
Where did you get this information?
Mr. Salo: State of Michigan.
Mr. Long: State of Michigan. And it does say across the top that this is a
"Summary of Nursing Home/HLTCU beds." I would assume that
is long term care. Mr. Heeley was talking about how it's a different
Certificate of Need for the brain injury.
Mr. Salo: Well, there's a special pool for TBI patients, yes. It's not
necessarily required. There's other facilities such as Special Tree
in Romulus who has not used the TBI designation, but that's all
they do over there at Special Tree is the TBI. So it's not
incumbent upon them. I'm not willing to say exactly why they went
that way, whether it's for expedient purposes or to try to avoid the
excess bed issue. I'm not sure, but my research shows that
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there's no facility in Michigan right now that is operating with TBI
licensed beds.
Mr. Long: Thank you, Mr. Salo. I don't know if Mr. Heeley wants to talk to
that.
Mr. Heeley: Just from my research, I believe there are three facilities that have
gotten Certificates of Need through that special bed program
within the last couple of years.
Mr. Long: Thank you.
Mr. Salo: There's no one operating on that.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Salo. Thank you, Mr. Long. Anyone else? I will
close the public hearing on this item, and a motion would be in
order.
On a motion by McCue, seconded by Smiley, and unanimously adopted, it was
#02-05-2018 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on February 13, 2018, on
Petition 2018-01-01-02 submitted by Cliff Heeley pursuant to
Section 23.01 of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as
amended, requesting to rezone the properties at 20209, 20219,
20225, 20235 and 20307 Farmington Road, located on the west
side of Farmington Road between Norfolk Avenue and Eight Mile
Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 4, from R-U-F to OS, the
Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City
Council that Petition 2018-01-01-02 be denied for the following
reasons:
1. That OS, Office zoning at this location would be detrimental
to the adjoining residential land uses;
2. That the intended use of the property is not compatible with
the adjoining residential land uses;
3. That the existing residential zoning is more consistent with
the established pattern of development and character of the
area; and
4. That the proposed zoning change is not supported by the
Future Land Use Plan, which shows this site as Medium
Density Residential.
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FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 23.05 of
Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City Council for an additional public
hearing, and this is a denying recommendation to them. If you're
interested, please continue to follow this item and come to the
City Council meeting as well. Thank you and thank you, Mr.
Heeley, for your time.
Mr. Salo: Will we receive notice of that'?
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes. They will be notified based on the 300-foot radius and the
notifications you've already received.
ITEM #2 PETITION 2018-01-02-01 TINY BLISS CHILD CARE
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Petition 2018-
01-02-01 submitted by Darrlisha Newby requesting waiver use
approval pursuant to Section 9.03(j) of the City of Livonia Zoning
Ordinance #543, as amended, to operate a day care nursery
(Tiny Bliss Child Care) at 29794 Joy Road, located on the north
side of Joy Road between Middlebelt and Henry Ruff Roads in
the Southeast 1/4 of Section 35.
Mr. Taormina: This is a request to operate a commercial childcare center on
property that is at the northwest corner of Joy Road and Louise.
The site is roughly .0.3 acre in size. It includes 67 feet of frontage
along Joy Road and 160 feet of front on Louise. Currently, the
property is zoned OS, which applies to three of four lots that make
up the property, including Lots 256, 257 and 258 of EG Settle
Bonaparte Gardens Subdivision, all with frontage on Joy Road.
There is a fourth lot, Lot 259, which fronts on Louise and the
zoning of that lot is P, Parking. Currently, the south half of the
property, the OS zoned portion, has a one-story 3,120 square foot
building, while the north half of the property consists of a parking
lot. Daycare nurseries are permitted in OS Districts subject to
waiver use approval under Section 9.03(j) of the Zoning
Ordinance. Looking at the surrounding zoning and land uses in
the area, immediately to the north are residential homes. Those
are under the R-1 zoning classification. There is also a house
immediately to the east which is zoned R-1 as well. Looking west
across Louise, there is a one-story office building under the
commercial zoning classification, and then directly across Joy
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Road is the City of Westland. The existing building does face
Louise. There is no direct access to the site from Joy Road.
Access is provided by two driveways along Louise Avenue. A
floor plan was submitted with the application that shows how the
building would be utilized. It shows a waiting area, a play and
eating area. There are several classrooms as well as a nap area,
restroom facilities and a small kitchen. A special requirement in
the ordinance that applies to child care facilities requires a
minimum of 5,000 square feet of outside play area. A play area is
shown on the plans. It's located in the northeast corner of the
property directly behind the building. It measures 5,000 square
feet and would occupy roughly the easterly 85 feet of the parking
lot. It would be enclosed with a five-foot high chain link fence, and
the petitioner has indicated that synthetic turf would be placed on
top of the existing asphalt in that area. The remaining section of
the parking lot shows four parking spaces that would remain as
parking. The petitioner has indicated at the study session that, if
possible, she would like to reduce the size of the play area. We
did check with the State of Michigan and the minimum area
requirement for an outdoor play area is 1,200 square feet, but the
State can require additional play area depending on the number
of children. We don't have an idea of what the State would
require, but the 5,000 square feet appears to be more than what
the State would require. In terms of parking, the ordinance
requires parking based on one space for each employee plus
sufficient off-street space for the safe and convenient loading and
unloading of students. The site plan shows a total of eight parking
spaces including the four that I just mentioned on the north side
of the building. Additional parking is provided on the west side of
the building. There would be the ability for parents to drop off the
children in front of the building off of Louise. They could enter the
driveway to the south, drop off the children and then exit on the
northerly driveway. The petitioner believes that the amount of
parking is adequate due to how quickly the kids are dropped off,
and that there would not be any problems with respect to this site
or traffic issues. No trash enclosure is shown. The petitioner
would rely on weekly curbside pickup of all refuse. There are no
exterior modifications shown to the building. Allowed is one 16
square foot wall sign. We don't have any details relative to
signage at this point. Staff has talked to the owner of the property.
He indicated that the building has been vacant for approximately
three years. As far as the exterior of the building, he said the
parking lot would be restriped, a new roof installed and that there
would be additional cosmetic improvements, including painting
the building. One last special requirement of the ordinance is that
pertaining to this use, written consent of at least 55 percent of the
residential owners within a 400-foot radius of the property is
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required. The petitioner has not obtained that petition and would
be asking the City Council to waive that particular requirement
should this move forward. With that, Mr. Chairman, I can read out
the departmental correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, please.
Mr. Taormina: There are several items of correspondence. The first item is from
the Engineering Division, dated January 24, 2018, which reads
as follows: "In accordance with your request, the Engineering
Division has reviewed the above referenced waiver use petition.
We have no objections to the proposed waiver use at this time.
The existing parcel is assigned an address of#29794 Joy Road.
The legal description provided with the petition appears to be
correct and is acceptable to this office. The existing parcel is
currently serviced by public utilities which should not be impacted
by the proposed waiver use, so no Engineering Department
permits will be required. Should the proposed project scope
change to include reconstruction of the site, plans will be required
to be submitted to this department for permitting." The letter is
signed by David W. Lear, P.E., Assistant City Engineer. The
second letter is from the Livonia Fire & Rescue Division, dated
February 1, 2018, which reads as follows: "This office has
reviewed the site plan submitted in connection with a request to
operate a day care nursery on property located at the above
referenced address. We have no objections to this proposal."The
letter is signed by Keith Bo, Fire Marshal. The third letter is from
the Inspection Department, dated February 5, 2018, which reads
as follows: "Pursuant to your request, the above-referenced
petition has been reviewed. (1) The petitioner's proposal is a
change in use. This would require that the proposed space must
conform to all current barrier free codes, building codes and all
mechanical codes and standards. This will be addressed further
at time of plan review if this project moves forward. (2) Building is
required to be registered in the vacant and abandoned program
per City Ordinance 2844. All required fees are to be paid,
inspections shall be scheduled and any and all violations shall be
corrected. A certificate of re-occupancy shall be issued after the
conditions set forth in 15.51.090 (E) are fully satisfied. (3) 1
Signage has not been reviewed at this time. This Department has
no further objections to this petition." The letter is signed by
Jerome Hanna, Director of Inspection. The fourth letter is from
the Treasurer's Department, dated January 26, 2018, which
reads as follows: "In accordance with your request, the
Treasurer's Office has reviewed the address connected with the
above noted petition. At this time, there are no outstanding
amounts receivable for taxes; therefore, I have no objections to
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the proposal." The letter is signed by Lynda Scheel, Treasurer.
The fifth letter is from the Finance Department, dated January 23,
2018, which reads as follows: "I have reviewed the addresses
connected with the above noted petition. As there are no
outstanding amounts receivable, general or water and sewer, I
have no objections to the proposal."The letter is signed by Coline
Coleman, Chief Accountant. We have an item of correspondence
dated February 5, 2018, which reads as follows: "Regarding the
waiver of zoning ordinance to operate a day care nursey at 29794
Joy Road, we are supportive of the use of that property for a day
care. We feel it would enhance the immediate community and
provide needed services for families in the area. If we can be of
further assistance, please feel free to contact us." The letter is
signed by Kathy Mihm and Kevin Leggert, 29880 Joy Road,
Livonia, Michigan 48150. We have an email communication
dated February 9, 2018, which reads as follows: "My only
concerns regarding a child care facility (after reviewing property
on google earth) at 29794 Joy Rd. is.. I cannot find any
emergency exits. This property has very little outside fenced play
area for toddlers. (Less than 10 sq. yds. of lawn). Lack of
windows. Lack of crash barriers outside of the large floor to ceiling
plate glass windows where a potential indoor play area would be.
The immediate neighbors input should be asked before
approving any change in zoning. Today this day care operates
out of a home in Redford with only one bathroom for 7-10
children. A couple of Licensing rules for Child Care Centers: R
400.8137 Diapering; toileting; R 400.8161 Emergency
procedures. If cribs are used in emergency evacuations, then all
doors within the means of egress shall be wide enough to readily
accommodate the crib evacuation. R 400.8167 Indoor space
Fifty square feet for each toddler and 35 square feet for
preschoolers and school agers. R 400.8170 Outdoor play area.
The outdoor shall be considered an outdoor classroom and an
extension of the learning environment with an outdoor play area
that blends natural materials, features, and vegetation." The
email was provided to us by Don Kleinknecht. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any questions of the Planning Director?
Ms. Smiley: Mark, what is this letter from Alex Bishop about abandoned
property. So it was abandoned for a while from 6/29/16?
Mr. Taormina: That would have been a notification to the property owner at the
time that the site had been vacant for more than three months
and that it would have to be registered under that particular
citation.
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Ms. Smiley: Okay. Then the City goes in and inspects it before somebody else
can go in there?
Mr. Taormina: Before any re-occupancy, there is an inspection that is required.
Ms. Smiley: And have they done that or they're going to do it?
Mr. Taormina: To my knowledge, it has not been done yet. In fact, we checked
and it is still something that would need to be done. I think that
was verified in the more recent letter submitted by the Director of
Inspection, Jerome Hanna.
Ms. Smiley: Okay. Also, licensing obviously hasn't gone through there either,
have they?
Mr. Taormina: I'm not aware of any State license that has been secured by the
petitioner. I think that's probably a question that should be
directed to her.
Ms. Smiley: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: The petitioner is here We will need your name and address for
the record please.
Darrlisha Newby, Tiny Bliss Child Care, 25215 Ross Drive, Redford, Michigan
48239.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Ms. Newby. Is there anything you would like to add to
this petition that you haven't heard already said?
Ms. Newby: Not at this time. As far as the State of Michigan goes, Ms. Smiley,
I have to first get your approval before I can even submit an
application to them. So if you guys do approve it, then yes, there
are quite a few inspections I will have to undergo. Environmental
is one of them. Fire inspection, lead assessment, playground
inspection are the four that I can think of at this time. There may
be one more, but yes. I will have to get approved through them in
order for the State of Michigan to approve it too. They also will
help with capacity. They'll let me know during those inspections
just how many children I can have,just to ensure the safety of the
children.
Ms. Smiley: Then they'll also let you know the ratio for the children to childcare
providers and all that. I just want to make sure that you're aware
there's a whole lot of stuff before you can have a license in your
name. Okay.
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Mr. Ventura: Good evening. Since it is acknowledged that there's a lot of work
to be done on the building and a lot of work to be done to secure
your licensing, and it appears that there's a fair amount of work
to be done just to get the building re-occupiable. Who, by
contractor or by agreement, is going to expend all the money to
do all this work to get the building ready?
Ms. Newby: So, I do have an agreement with the owner of the building, and
he has agreed that he would do all of the work that's required.
Mr. Ventura: Both to make it re-occupiable and to comply with licensure?
Ms. Newby: Yes.
Mr. Ventura: So you're not going to have to spend any money to get in there'?
Ms. Newby: No.
Mr. Ventura: How long do you anticipate it will take to get everything done to
make you ready to get licensure?
Ms. Newby: If the owner moves fast, as I hope, a good six months.
Mr. Ventura: Okay. Thank you.
Ms. Smiley: You've had some experience in childcare?
Ms. Newby: Yes. We currently have an in-home facility that we've been
operating for almost six years.
Ms. Smiley: Do you have a degree in child development?
Ms. Newby: I do. I do have a degree in Early Childhood and then almost six
years of experience before that. I worked in childcare centers as
a nanny for several years. I've been in the childcare industry for
some time.
Ms. Smiley: I notice from the background information, that you ran a 24-hour
facility. That's not your plan any more.
Ms. Newby: No, not for that area. No.
Ms. Smiley: What would your hours be approximately?
Ms. Newby: Typical hours, 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. I know last time we spoke
we thought maybe 7:00 p.m. could help with the decision-making
of you guys.
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Ms. Smiley: With weather and what have you, emergencies, sometimes you
end up with children afterhours. I've had a little experience with
that. I guess those are my main questions. Good luck.
Ms. Newby: Thank you guys.
Mr. Taormina: Could you please describe how you envision the parents
dropping off and picking up their children, and the frequency of
the trips to the site in the morning and pickup in the afternoon?
How would the circulation work, because the site has only a few
parking spaces and the number of cars coming and going would
far exceed that number. How do you see that occurring? Is it
staged throughout the afternoon and morning hours or how
exactly does that work?
Ms. Newby: Well, I'm very glad you did your homework. I'm glad that you
found out how much space we actually need for outdoor space.
So if we could waive that amount of space, I would be happy. But
currently, we serve 24 children at the most. As you see, I'm not
sure if you guys rolled by the currently facility, but we don't even
have nearly as many parking spaces as we would have at the
Livonia location. So I do think that would be more than enough
for them. If we could add more, you always want to have extra
just in case because we can't predict the future all the time. But if
we could add a few more, I would appreciate that, but typically,
parents, they don't come all at once. Maybe five or ten minutes
apart. Some come at 9:00, some may come at 7:00 a.m. It really
just depends on needs because the childcare is catered to parent
needs, but as of now, we do have a cutoff time. We don't allow
parents to come past 10:45 a.m. as of right now. So we do try to
cut that off just to limit, and then it's just not good for the program
overall. And then the afternoons, from my experience, parents
are coming in between 3:30 and 6:00. They don't all come at
once. That's just through experience guys. I know this may be
hard for you guys to envision it, but they don't come all at once
and I don't see it being an issue.
Mr. Taormina: So you don't see the need for parking on the street during any
period of time? Do you see most of these parents coming in? Do
they park and walk their children in or do they just pull up to the
front door and somebody's there to greet them?
Ms. Newby: They will park and come in.
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Mr. Taormina: Should there be a shortage of parking, do you see people parking
on the street temporarily and walking their children in or just
stacking along that driveway and then waiting for traffic to clear?
Ms. Newby: I will see them parking on the street just because parents they're
always in a rush and they will do things like that. So if we could
take away some of that play area, I think that would help with
them from parking on the street.
Mr. Taormina: I'll just point out to the Planning Commission that what she is
suggesting will require a super-majority vote of the City Council.
To waive or modify any of the special requirements requires a
two-thirds vote of the Council, and that would also apply to the
requirement for a petition signed by 55 percent of the neighbors
within 400 feet. Should this move forward, both of those items
would have to be addressed by City Council under that special
provision. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you. Any other questions for our petitioner?
Mr. Caramagno: While I don't have a lot of doubt in your ability to look after children
because you've done it for six years and you've got your degree,
I do have some doubt in the detail of what we're looking at here
for this property. As mark was saying, the parking, the playground
for children, the fencing for it, the general cleaning up of the
property. I don't have a real good feel for that right now. Like the
Astroturf. What preparation has to be done to get that part of the
lot ready for this thing, and what kind of toys are going to be
there? I'm not hearing many details regarding the property from
you.
Ms. Newby: I did send a picture of what it would look like. I don't install
playgrounds or anything like that, so I will have to call them and
ask what it would take to get the job done, because I wouldn't be
physically doing it myself. I'll be hiring someone to do that. But
just your normal everyday toys, scooters, tricycles, slides. I
wouldn't be installing any swings, however, so take note of that.
That's mainly it.
Mr. Caramagno: Now these toys that are out and whatnot. Do these just stay
outside? Do they get put away when they're not in use or do they
just stay out? I'm trying to get a feel for what this really is at the
end of the day.
Ms. Newby: We will bring them in, the ones that can come in, yes.
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Mr. Caramagno: How about something like signage on the building. We're talking
about conforming signage. Do you have any idea what that might
look like?
Ms Newby: As far as . . .
Mr. Caramagno: The signage you want to put on this building, the colors, the whole
layout of the property. I don't have a real good feel for what you're
trying to do here.
Ms. Newby: Okay. I haven't really considered that part yet as far as where I
will put a sign. On the door, for sure, but I have no plans on doing
a whole lot of changing to this building outside either as far as
adding things to it, outside of the playground. That I haven't
thought about exactly where I'm going to put a sign not just yet.
Mr. Caramagno: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Is there any other questions for our petitioner? Seeing none, is
there anybody in the audience that wishes to speak for or against
this item? Is there anything else that you'd like to add, Ms. Newby,
before we proceed with a vote?
Ms. Newby: Not at this time. Well, I'll add one thing. I don't have a sign where
I'm am now. Parents, if they want to find a daycare facility, they
will go to the State of Michigan site where they can find childcares
and see their reports and everything. They will go to Google,
Yahoo. There's so many sites that parents can go to. Childcare
facilities are pretty obvious looking as well. So we will have sign
on the door, of course, to indicate who we are and what we do,
but I don't think we even need a big flashy sign. I don't have one
now and I do just fine.
Mr. Wilshaw: Ms. Newby, you are intending on moving your existing clientele
over to this new location?
Ms. Newby: Yes.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you. I think we're all set. So thank you for your time. We
will close the public hearing and ask for a motion.
On a motion by Smiley, seconded by Ventura, and adopted, it was
#02-06-2018 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on February 13, 2018, on
Petition 2018-01-02-01 submitted by Darrlisha Newby requesting
waiver use approval pursuant to Section 9.03(j) of the City of
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Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, to operate a day
care nursery (Tiny Bliss Child Care) at 29794 Joy Road, located
on the north side of Joy Road between Middlebelt and Henry Ruff
Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 35, which property is zoned
OS and P, the Planning Commission does hereby recommend to
the City Council that Petition 2018-01-02-01 be approved subject
to the following conditions:
1. That the maximum number of children to be cared for at this
facility shall be as determined by the State of Michigan, but
in no case shall exceed forty-five (45);
2. That the Site Plan, as received by the Planning Commission
on January 19, 2018, is hereby approved and shall be
adhered to, subject to any revisions as noted below;
3. That any reduction in the size of the play area shall be
subject to City Council approval;
4. That only conforming signage is approved with this petition,
and any additional signage shall be separately submitted for
review and approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals;
5. That no LED lightband or exposed neon shall be permitted
on this site including, but not limited to, the building or
around the windows;
6. That this approval shall incorporate the stipulations
contained in the correspondence dated February 5, 2018,
from the Inspection Department;
7. That the entire outdoor play area shall be surrounded by a
five-foot (5') chain-link fence and the pavement shall be
covered by an artificial turf material;
8. That the hours of operation for this child care facility shall be
limited to 6:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.;
9. The tenant(s) of this building shall not engage in any form of
solicitation for business within the public rights-of-way of Joy
Road or Louise Avenue;
10 That the Petitioner shall enter into a conditional agreement
limiting the waiver to this user only, with the provision to
extend this waiver use approval to a new user only upon
approval of the new user by the City Council;
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11. That the specific plans referenced in this approving
resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department
at the time the building permits are applied for;
12. That prior to occupancy, all unresolved issues as outlined in
the letter dated June 29, 2016, from the Director of
Inspection to Masoud Shango regarding compliance under
City of Livonia Ordinances Title 15, Chapter 51, shall be
completely resolved to the satisfaction of the Inspection
Department; and
13. Pursuant to Section 19.10 of Ordinance No. 543, the Zoning
Ordinance of the City of Livonia, this approval is valid for a
period of one year only from the date of approval by the City
Council, and unless a building permit is obtained, and
construction is commenced, this approval shall be null and
void at the expiration of said period.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 19.05 of
Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr. Wilshaw: Is there any discussion?
Ms. Smiley: If I could, Mr. Taormina, is there someplace in there we could say
that it meets all the requirements of the State of Michigan
licensing for childcare facilities? Like the maximum number of
children will actually be determined by them because they require
so many square feet per child depending on their ages. Could we
put something in there?
Mr. Taormina: We can craft some language that I think would address that to
your satisfaction.
Ms. Smiley: So I'm sure that she and her landlord are aware and that they
meet all those requirements before we start. Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Ms. Smiley. Is there support?
Mr. Ventura: Support.
Mr. Wilshaw: We have a motion to approve by Ms. Smiley, support by Mr.
Ventura with the additional stipulation that she meet all State
licensing requirements for childcare facilities.
Mr. Taormina: If the maker of the motion might consider some additional
language addressing the issue of the play area that would allow
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her to appeal that to the City Council for a reduction, as well as
recommendation relative to the petition that's required. Typically
we include that language in the resolution. We indicate the need
for them to have that requirement waived by City Council and as
it pertains to the play area if we can add some language that will
allow for that modification to the site plan. 1
Mr. Wilshaw: Is the maker okay with that/
Ms. Smiley: I'm fine with that?
Mr. Wilshaw: And the supporter is okay?
Mr. Ventura: Yes.
Mr. Wilshaw: We have a change there. Is there any other discussion on the
motion? Seeing none, please call the roll.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Smiley, Ventura, McCue, Long, Priddy, Wilshaw
NAYS: Caramagno
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution.
ITEM #3 PETITION 2018-01-SN-01 STANLEY STEEMER
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Petition 2018-
01-SN-01 submitted by Allied Signs, Inc. requesting approval for
an additional ground sign pursuant to Section 18.50H of the City
of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, for the
commercial building (Stanley Steemer) at 39200 Schoolcraft
Road, located on the north side of Schoolcraft Road between
Newburgh and Eckles Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 19.
Mr. Taormina: This request is for an additional ground-mounted sign at a site
located on the north side of Schoolcraft Road just east of Eckles
Road. The site adjoins the 1-96 Expressway along its northern
boundary. The zoning of the property is C-2, General Business.
The existing site contains a 17,840-square foot building that is
owned and operated by Stanley Steemer and serves as one of
the company's regional headquarters. In terms of what is nearby,
immediately to the west of the subject site is the VIP Truck
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Center, and then to the east is both the Laurel Manor Banquet
Center and Roseberry Adult Health Services facility. Signs for
commercial properties are regulated under Section 18.50H of the
Zoning Ordinance. Each single-use building is allowed one wall
sign not to exceed one square foot for every one lineal foot of
building frontage and, in addition, one freestanding sign not to
exceed 30 square feet in sign area. Based on the frontage of this
building, this site is allowed an 80-square foot wall sign. Currently,
the site has a 40-square foot wall sign on the front of the building
that faces Schoolcraft, as well as an 18-square foot monument
sign. The plan before you shows what the wall sign would look
like facing Schoolcraft Road. What the petitioner is requesting
under this petition is an additional monument sign that would
measure 35 feet in overall height and would be placed in the
northwest corner of the property to gain visibility from 1-96. The
dimensions of the sign board would be 24 feet by 10 feet for a
total area of 240 square feet. The sign would be internally
illuminated. The message would be static and not
interchangeable or variable in any way. Because of the height
and area and the fact that it's an additional sign over what is
allowed by the code, it will require three variances from the
Zoning Board of Appeals. It would occupy a single parking space
in the northwest corner of the parking lot. The remaining parking
that is available on the site is more than adequate to meet the
needs of Stanley Steemer. We provided some additional
information in your packet relative to the nearby signs in the area.
At this point, Mr. Chairman, I can read the departmental
correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, please.
Mr. Taormina: There are three items of correspondence. The first item is from
the Inspection Department, dated February 5, 2018, which reads
as follows: "Pursuant to your request, the above-referenced
petition has been reviewed. A variance from the Zoning Board of
Appeals would be required to maintain the excess height, size
and number of signs proposed. Only one ground sign and one
wall sign are permitted. This Department has no further
objections to this petition."The letter is signed by Jerome Hanna,
Assistant Director of Inspection. The second letter is from the
Treasurer's Department, dated January 26, 2018, which reads as
follows: "In accordance with your request, the Treasurer's Office
has reviewed the address connected with the above noted
petition. At this time, there are no outstanding amounts receivable
for taxes. Therefore, I have no objections to the proposal." The
letter is signed by Lynda Scheel, Treasurer. The third letter is
from the Finance Department, dated January 23, 2018, which
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reads as follows: "1 have reviewed the addresses connected with
the above noted petition. As there are no outstanding amounts
receivable, general or water and sewer, I have no objections to
the proposal." The letter is signed by Coline Coleman, Chief
Accountant. That is the extent of the correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any questions of the Planning Director? Seeing none,
the petitioner is here. We will need your name and address for
the record please.
Eric Morton, 1480 Devlin Road, Columbus, Ohio.
Mr. Wilshaw: What would you like to let us know?
Mr. Morton: Well, I just wanted to sort of reiterate what we've gone over last
week, and that's this sign is important for our overall market
presence, for letting our customers know that we're there.
Visibility along Schoolcraft is very limited. It's not a commercial
corridor. Our customers can come and schedule services, drop
off rugs for rug cleaning, attend demo events. This is, as Mark
mentioned, our regional headquarters. We run operations for
three states out of here. There's a lot of employee screening and
interviewing that goes on in this location. We proposed this sign
because we had the two signs on either side of us and thought it
sort of fit in. I did hear what the committee was saying last week
and we would be willing, if that would help, should Stanley
Steemer not occupy this facility, to take that sign down. We view
it as something germane to the business, not something that's
adding overall value to the building. I wanted to add that point.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Morton. Do we have any questions for our
petitioner?
Mr. Caramagno: Did you give any consideration of putting a sign on the back of
your building?
Mr. Morton: We hadn't, and we thought that this, the pole sign, we had not
given consideration to that, but we would be willing to table this
sign if that was an available avenue to take, but I believe that's a
variance as well. Again, we did the pole sign because we were
sandwiched between the two signs, the one with scrolling text and
the other was slightly larger than ours.
Mr. Caramagno: Just a question I had as I'm looking at it, I'm wondering what
options you explored at all. You need the visibility from the
freeway for what reason?
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Mr. Morton; Well, one, that's really where the traffic and the visibility from that
building. If you're going down the freeway, it just looks like a non-
existence or warehouse. All Stanley Steemer vehicles are parked
inside, especially in Michigan because it's so cold and there's
water in them. You would never know that they were present from
where the majority of the traffic goes by.
Mr. Caramagno: How much of your business is walk-in business?
Mr. Morton: Well, barely any but a lot of business comes from letting people
know that you're in the market.
Mr. Caramagno: Okay. So this is not necessarily a sign that indicates where you're
at. It's advertisement. It's not a sign that people need to find you.
You've got a unique location on the freeway exchange here
where you want some advertisement. Right?
Mr. Morton: Well, it's certainly market presence.
Mr. Caramagno: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Any other questions for our petitioner?
Mr. Morton: Well, I think with that being said, we'd like at this point to table the
current sign that we have available and perhaps pursue a building
mounted sign if that's something that the Commission thinks is a
more viable option.
Mr. Wilshaw: A tabling motion is always an option. We'll see what the happens
this evening. Any comments or questions?
Ms. Smiley: It's more of a comment. I'm not a fan of billboards, and we're
trying to get away from that in the city since I've been on the
Commission. We're trying to get away from the big pylon look.
Whenever possible it's our goal to take them down. It's not to put
one up. I agree that it's completely 100 percent advertisement.
With GPS, you're hard pressed not to know where Stanley
Steemer is if you're looking for it. So I'd be glad to table it if they
want it tabled.
Mr. Wilshaw: With that, a motion is in order.
Ms. Smiley: I move we table it until they come back with something more
palatable.
On a motion by Smiley, seconded by Long, and unanimously adopted, it was
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#02-07-2018 RESOLVED, that in connection with Petition 2018-01-SN-01
submitted by Allied Signs, Inc. requesting approval for an
additional ground sign pursuant to Section 18.50H of the City of
Livonia Zoning Ordinance#543, as amended, for the commercial
building (Stanley Steemer) at 39200 Schoolcraft Road, located
on the north side of Schoolcraft Road between Newburgh and
Eckles Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 19, the Planning
Commission does hereby table this item until the Study Meeting
of February 20, 2018.
Mr. Wilshaw: Do we want to include a date specific on the tabling motion?
Ms. Smiley: It's up to them.
Mr. Wilshaw: Mr. Taormina?
Mr. Taormina: The next available meeting is the study session next Tuesday. It
would not be a voting meeting, but if he could provide something
for us to look at, at least for the study session, that would be
helpful. If not, we could wait until the first meeting in March.
Mr. Wilshaw: Mr. Morton, would that give you enough time?
Mr. Morton: We could have something ready for you at the study meeting.
Mr. Taormina: By next Tuesday?
Mr. Morton. By next Tuesday.
Mr. Taormina: So we could place it on the agenda for next Tuesday. It's not a
problem. Would somebody be present at that meeting?
Mr. Morton: Yes.
Mr. Taormina: Okay. That's fine.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay. We have a motion to table to our next study meeting.
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ITEM #4 APPROVAL OF MINUTES 1,116th Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Approval of
the Minutes of the 1,116th Public Hearings and Regular Meeting
held on January 30, 2018.
On a motion by Caramagno, seconded by Priddy, and unanimously adopted, it
was
#02-08-2018 RESOLVED, that the Minutes of 1,116th Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting held by the Planning Commission on January
30, 2018, are hereby approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Caramagno, Priddy, Long, McCue, Smiley,
Ventura, Wilshaw
NAYS: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 1,117th Public
Hearings and Regular Meeting held on February 13, 2018, was adjourned at 8:38
p.m. 'l
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
Sam Cariagno, Secreta
ATTEST:
Ian Wilshaw, Chairman
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