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760 REGULAR MEETING
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
CITY OF LIVONIA
On January 4, 2017 the above meeting of the Parks and
Recreation Commission of the City of Livonia was held in the Livonia Community Recreation Center
conference room, 15100 Hubbard, Livonia, Michigan. Mark Johnson, Chairperson of the
Commission, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Members present: Paul Condon, Kevin Summers,
and, Mark Johnson
Members absent: Cathy Kevra and Roger Walklin
Also present: Ted Davis, Superintendent
Tom Murphy, Facility Manager
Michelle Koppin, Asst. Superintendent
Ryan Yoder, T.J.W. Inc.
Terry Welsh, T.J.W. Inc.
Upon a motion made by Mr. Summers seconded by Mr. Condon, it was
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#3547-16 RESOLVED, that the Commission waive the reading of the minutes of the 758
Regular Meeting of the Commission held on November 2, 2016 and that the minutes
be approved as submitted.
A roll call vote was taken on the foregoing resolution with the following results:
AYES: Condon, Summers and Johnson
ABSENT: Kevra and Walklin
The Chairperson declared the resolution adopted
Mr. Johnson said we are unable to approve the December minutes as there is not a quorum.
Reports from Staff – Mr. Johnson asked if Mr. Yoder and Mr. Welsh were satisfied with the golf
equipment lease bid results. Mr. Yoder said yes. He said Jacobsen was what was specified and
they came in well underneath what we expected. He mentioned other perks that were offered. Mr.
Davis said the extra year warranty and discount on parts for other pieces of Jacobsen equipment
that aren’t under warranty right now and with the training, this was a really good deal. Mr. Condon
complimented them on the bid package and said it was really detailed. He asked if the 8% discount
applies to parts on existing equipment? Mr. Yoder said yes. Mr. Davis explained prices that we
have paid in the past compared to these prices. Mr. Welsh said the 3 year warranty is a huge
aspect of it. Mr. Johnson verified that is just on Jacobsen and the rest is one year and that these
were the only three bids received. Mr. Davis said yes. Mr. Condon asked if this went on MITN. Mr.
Davis said yes it was sealed bids. Mr. Johnson asked when the equipment will be available. Mr.
Yoder said March. Mr. Condon asked if they have investigated selling the equipment on their own
instead of trading it in. Mr. Yoder said we would get nowhere near these prices.
Upon a motion made by Mr. Condon seconded by Mr. Summers, it was
#3548-16 RESOLVED, that the Commission move Old Business 2 to the front of the agenda.
A roll call vote was taken on the foregoing resolution with the following results:
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AYES: Condon, Summers and Johnson
ABSENT: Kevra and Walklin
The Chairperson declared the resolution adopted
Review of CR#3518-16 Re: Idyl Wyld Golf Course Hole #10 Proposal – Mr. Yoder explained what
work has been started already. Mr. Davis said this is the first time the golf courses have gotten
included in the DPW tree removal pricing. Mr. Condon asked what is the game plan on Hole #10.
Mr. Yoder explained the plans. There was a discussion regarding playing Hole #10. Mr. Condon
asked if they will be planting more trees along the fence line. Mr. Welsh said they have talked of it
and of putting up a net. Mr. Johnson asked about the cart path. Mr. Davis said it will be moved
eventually. Mr. Johnson asked what will be done by the time leagues start. Mr. Davis said Hole
#10 will be done, expanding the tee box to the right and holes 3 & 4 will be in the process of being
done.
Mr. Yoder and Mr. Welsh left the meeting at 7:20 p.m.
Reports from Staff – Mr. Johnson asked about the new aquatics coordinator. Mr. Davis said she
started yesterday.
Mr. Johnson said he thought LJAL was putting our logo on the basketball uniforms this year
because Paul said they were. Mr. Davis said they have not and he has been unable to contact
Paul. He said we should be on their baseball and basketball uniforms as we are their major sponsor.
Mr. Johnson said our mistake was not putting it in the motion. Mr. Davis said that goes back to our
Community Partnership Standards which Commission approved and I am sending an email to
everyone advising them of our new standards going forward. He said our support is contingent upon
them meeting the majority of these standards. He said from now on we will put those standards in
as part of any agreement or motion. Mr. Davis said he wanted Commission to be aware of this. Mr.
Johnson said we’ll remember next year and before any money passes hands we will want to see
the uniforms.
Mr. Davis said there is a lot of stuff going on and serious talk of the recreation center being
Madonna’s student activity center. He said they would pay us for every student they have and the
Madonna student ID card would become a membership card. This would add 4,000 members. Mr.
Condon said he is concerned about getting overcrowded again. Mr. Davis said they would probably
come in during slow times and weekends. He said it is nothing we couldn’t handle. Mr. Johnson
asked how much money. Mr. Davis said around $300,000 per year. Mr. Condon asked what type
of a rate they would get. Mr. Davis said we would have to reduce our student or young adult rate
and negotiate a rate. He said the original meeting had to be postponed so he is scheduling another
meeting.
Communications
409 Report – Mr. Johnson said it is close to budget.
LCRC Package Totals – December 2016 – Mr. Davis said it is down a little but we have had a lot of
renewals and new people coming in. Mr. Johnson said in reality this is a comfortable number. Mr.
Davis said 15,000 is also comfortable. He said things that eat our capacity are LJAL, birthday
parties and swim meets. Mr. Davis said there has been discussion of taking away the pool gallery
and building that up and making one or two aerobic studios. He explained this would give us much
needed room space but we could no longer host large swim meets. He said we would only lose
about $6,000 per year. There was a discussion of the cost, the recoup period and revenue from
swim club practice. Mr. Davis said swim club usage has almost doubled and it is taking lap pool
space away from members. Mr. Johnson said that is almost defeating the purpose of the rec
center. He said if their practices are taking away from the use of the members it may not be worth it
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to have them here for practice. Mr. Davis said we can accommodate their practices if we reduce the
number of lanes they use. He said we have given them some options starting in Spring regarding
changing their hours. Mr. Condon asked if it is a matter of time or of the number of lanes for
members. He suggested always having a minimum of 4 lanes available to patrons. Mr. Davis said
next month I will present a Facility Usage Policy that will be our guiding light on some of these
things. He said other facilities always have open usage time of pools and gyms.
LCRC Code of Conduct December 2016 – Mrs. Koppin explained a recent incident and said the
person was officially ordered a No Trespassing by the police.
LCRC Comment Card Report – December 2016 – There was a discussion of a comment by an
unhappy customer. Mr. Condon asked about the comment regarding swim lessons during swim
meets and swim teams using the family locker room. Mrs. Koppin said she will remind the swim
team before the next swim meet that they shouldn’t be using the family locker rooms.
Letters from MParks Re: Awards Presentation – Mr. Johnson said these are nice letters and asked
if someone will be present to accept? Mr. Davis said yes.
Memo from Edward Davis Re: Sunday evening drop in – Mr. Davis said attendance is lower than
expected. He said we are changing what we can to make it more successful. Mr. Johnson asked if
it is a seasonal thing. Mr. Murphy said he sees usage being higher from December to March. He
said we are adding floor hockey and women’s basketball.
Old Business
Letters to expired members – Mr. Davis said 150 letters were sent, 5 were returned undeliverable,
only 16 complimentary passes were used in December but one family membership was sold. He
said we rewrote the letter explaining some things that have changed and we are now sending them
to people whose memberships have expired just 3 months ago. Mr. Johnson said to leave this on
as Old Business.
New Business
Letter from Edward Davis Re: Date change for February 2017 Commission meeting – All agreed
this was acceptable.
Upon a motion made by Mr. Condon seconded by Mr. Summers, it was
#3549-16 RESOLVED, that the Commission approves changing the February Commission
meeting from February 1 to February 8, 2017.
A roll call vote was taken on the foregoing resolution with the following results:
AYES: Condon, Summers and Johnson
ABSENT: Kevra and Walklin
The Chairperson declared the resolution adopted
The Chairperson called the meeting adjourned at 7:55 p.m.
MARK JOHNSON, CHAIRPERSON
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
NEXT MEETING: WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 2017 AT 7:00 P.M.