HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1984-08-21 9200
MINUTES OF THE 481st REGULAR MEETING
AND PUBLIC HEARINGS HELD BY THE CITY
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LIVONIA
On Tuesday, August 21 , 1984, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia
held its 481st Regular Meeting and Public Hearings in the Livonia City Hall , 33000
Civic Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. R. Lee Morrow, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 8:00 p.m., with approx-
imately 50 interested persons in the audience.
Members present: R. Lee Morrow Donna J. Naidow Sue Sobolewski
C. Russ Smith Donald Vyhnalek Jeanne Hildebrandt
Members absent: *Herman Kluver Jerome Zimmer Joseph J. Falk
Messrs. John J. Nagy, Planning Director; H. G. Shane, Assistant Planning Director;
and Ralph H. Bakewell , Planner IV, were also present.
Mr. Morrow informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda involves a
rezoning request, this Commisison only makes a recommendation to the City Council which,
in turn, will hold its own public hearing and decide the question. If a petition
involves a waiver of use request and the request is denied, the petitioner has ten
days in which to appeal the decision to the City Council ; otherwise the petition is
terminated.
1110 Mrs. Sobolewski , Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda is Petition 84-7-2-24
1 by Michael Turchanik requesting waiver use approval to construct and
operate a coin-operated, self-serve car wash on the northwest corner
of Joy and Hix Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 31 .
Mr. Nagy : There is a letter in the file from the Engineering Divison
stating there appears to be no problems connected with this
proposal . That is the extent of our correspondence. .
Michael Turchanik, 9164 Marie, Livonia, petitioner: We would like to construct a coin-
operated, self-serve car wash on the property.
Mr. Morrow: Have you heard from the Wayne County Road Commission?
Mr. Turchanik: No, I haven't but I am working on that. I would like to get every-
thing straightened out about the curb cuts.
Mr. Morrow: I would assume that you wish to go forward with the public hear-
ing but because you have to do some more homework you would
agree to a tabling motion.
Mr. Vyhnalek: How many bays?
Mr. Turchaik: Six bays.
Mr. Vyhnalek: Enclosed with doors or open? What are your hours of operation?
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Mr. Turchanik: No, unless doors are required. We would like to start with
twenty-four hours but we would settle for 6:00 a.m. to 12 :00
1140 Mr. Vyhnalek: I believe there is a section there for keeping equipment for the
landscaping and for snow removal.
Mr. Turchanik indicated on the site plan the area in question.
Mr. Vyhnalek: Where do you propose lighting?
Mr. Turchanik: Our plans are a little incomplete as far as lighting.
Mr. Vyhnalek: We would like to know where the lighting is because of the people
across the street to the west.
Mr. Morrow: Are you the current owner?
Mr. Turchanik: We have an option to buy pending the waiver.
Mrs. Sobolewski : Will your structure be totally brick?
Mr. Turchanik: Yes, on the outside is brick and inside white colored brick.
Mrs. Sobolewski : Where are the sewers located?
Mr. Turchanik: As far as the engineering goes, we will have to get together
with the Engineering Department to see if there is a problem.
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There is a water drain on the property because it used to be
a Shell gas station and there are a lot of drains on the property.
Mr. Sobolewski : People will exit onto Joy?
Mr. Turchanik: with
and they will enter only on Hix Road.
Mrs. Sobolewski : If people don't dry off and drive out wet, will there be a problem
with ice forming on the driveways?
Mr. Turchanik: We have snow removal equipment to take care of that. Our floors
are heated and ice will not form on them.
Richard Sisler, 38583 Grandon: Will that property be fenced in?
Mr. Morrow: I don' t believe the Ordinance requires a fence around the property.
Do you have a fence on your site plan, Mr. Turchanik?
Mr. Turchanik: No. If the property abuts residential property and if it is
necessary, we can work it out.
Mr. Morrow: The plan you see is by no means final but so far the petitioner
has no intention of putting up a fence.
Mr. Sisler: I would object to their putting a trailer on the property. Will
there be one?
4 Mr. Turchanik: No.
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Mr. Morrow: Is it your concern that someone will live in the trailer?
IL, Mr. Sister; Yes. When the Shell station operated, it became a race track
on Friday, Saturday and Sunday after closing hours with the
tires screeching and there was a lack of police protection. I
hope we don't experience that this time.
Mr. Vyhnalek: I would insist on twelve p.m. closing. If this is approved,
I understand the teen agers washing cars and laying rubber. They
will do it.
Mr. Turchanik: Our goal is 24 hours but we will settle for the other. The
corner property has a 7-Eleven which is open 24 hours so there
is something there for 24 hours.
Mrs. Sobolewski : How do you prepare a station to close at 12:00 to be safe from
burglary? What assurance do the neighbors have that there won't
be cars running around or parking of cars?
Mr. Turchanik: We would put some kind of barrier across there if it is required.
Mrs. Sobolewski : Is somebody there all day for 24 hours?
Mr. Turchanik: Yes.
Diane Becker: That is a very congested corner. The speed limit between Ann Arbor
11 and Joy is 25 miles an hour. We have a problem with congestion
and traffic. We would prefer that the whole thing was zoned
residential . My home happens to be the dividing line between
the residential and commercial .
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Mr. Morrow: In a waiver use, traffic is always a valid concern . This will
be part of our concern.
David Hipp, 34th Floor Renaissance Center, Attorney: I am the attorney for Mr. Applebaum
who owns the surrounding property.
Mr. Morrow: Is he the owner of the subject property?
Mr. Hipp: I don't believe so. He is the principal owner of Arbor Drugs
and has been working on plans for developing this property.
Plans are for a retail drug store, professional office and R-1
for a subdivision. Mr. Applebaum is concerned that putting a
self-serve car wash in this area would detract from the develop-
ment of the remainder of his property. A retail use would be
much better on this piece of property. One of your concerns
are the effect of the waiver use on the rest of the property, and
we ask that you not approve the waiver use.
Mr. Morrow: What is the timing on when his property might be developed.
Mr. Hipp: I am sorry I can't give you any dates at this time. All I can
tell you is that plans are being considered and hopefully will
take place in the near future.
Mr. Vyhnalek:
1 How long has he owned his property and has he tried to buy this
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Mr. Hipp: Not to my knowledge.
Mr. Vyhnalek: If he is going to build up the entire section, why would he not
buy the 200' x 200' piece -- if he is going to try to develop
office development and residential .
Mr. Hipp: I don't know the answer to that. I do know he is involved in
the business of drug stores.
Mrs. Sobolewski : I can't understand either why he let that go. It seems it would
fit right Into the development you are speaking of.
Mr. Hipp: It is not uncommon for a developer to leave a corner and hope
that it will be developed Into a bank or something along that
line.
Mrs. Hildebrandt: I am concerned with the security of this building. I am afraid
this eventually could become a problem with teenagers hanging
out at night and would like to see overhead doors put on the
building.
Mr. Turchanik: This is a clean type of business where people are in and out and
there are no Junk cars and the people owning the station won't
park theirboats or anything like that there.
Mr. Smith: Since last week, I visited a modern self-serve car wash and I
think if the neighbors should look at the one on Middlebelt Road.
It is well maintained and there is an attendant there. I don't
think it lends itself to garage doors. They look very well with-
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doors and I suggest that the neighbors go by and look at it.
As far as drying off, most people at this one don't pull out to
dry off. It looks very similar to the one in Westland. Is this
a duplicate?
Mr. Turchanik: It will be constructed to fit in well with the neighborhood. I
think it will really dress up the corner with the landscaping and
all .
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Morrow,
Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 84-7-2-24 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Smith, seconded by Mr. Vyhnalek and unanimously adopted,
it was
#8-165-84 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on August 21 ,
1984 on Petition 84-7-2-24 by Michael Turchanik requesting waiver use
approval to construct an operate a coin-operated, self-serve car wash
on the northwest corner of Joy and Hix Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of
Section 31 , the City Planning Commission does hereby determine to table
Petition 84-7-2-24 to allow the petitioner to furnish the Commission
with adequate plans.
100 FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above hearing was given in accordance
with the provisions of Section 19.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr. Morrow, Chairman , declared the motion Is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
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Mrs. Sobolewski , Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 84-7-2-26
by Cummings, McClorey, Davis & Acho requesting waiver use approval to
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construct a restaurant on the southeast corner of Six Mile and Laurel
Park Drive South in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 18.
Mr. Nagy: There is a letter in the file from the Engineering Division stating
there are no problems connected with this petition.
Gerald Davis, representing the petitioners, was present and introduced the developer,
Robert Beauchamp.
Mr. Beauchamp: What we would like to do is combine an office site and restaurant
site. Office buildings, in the evening, don't need parking and
restaurants do. We have been working hard and long on this site.
The property was purchased from Wynn Schuler's when they decided
not to develop the site. We have worked long to come up with a
workable project, and we have come up with it . It will be a good
looking building and an asset to the community. The property
is owned free and clear.
Mr. Smith: Are we only considering now the Tidewater Restaurant plan? On the
map it encompasses the entire area which includes the office
portion.
Mr. Beauchamp: We are going to build both together. We have a mortgage approval
on the office building.
Mr. Nagy: The requirements call for submittal of a site plan for the
restaurant waiver use. The Commission, reporting out, will be
dealing with the site plan. In your approval of the site plan,
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Mr. Vyhnalek: This is going to be strictly for professional ? No retail stores?
Mr. Beauchamp: No.
Mr. Vyhnalek: You have 213 parking spaces and 206 are required. You don't meet
the quantity on the landscaping because most of it occurs in the
easement. Is there any way you can get more landscaping?
Mr. Nagy: We don't feel it would work a hardship to eliminate seven parking
spaces and put it into landscaping. We have a plan to present
to the petitioner.
Mr. Beauchamp: We will do everything we can on the greenbelt.
Mrs. Naidow: I would like to make a recommendation that a sign be erected so
that traffic cannot go through the subdivision.
Mr. Smith: You mentioned that you met with the Council about this landscaping.
Mr. Beauchamp: Yes , on an informal basis to see what their reaction would be and
Mr. Smith:
to introduce them to the project.
Do we have recommendations from that meeting?
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Mr. Nagy: The City of Livonia is party to restrictive convenants on this-
1[0 property. Part of it was to preserve a 45' easement and to
restrict points of ingress and egress along those areas. Mr.
Beauchamp, in planning for his property, felt that rather than
a 45' greenbelt allocated along Six Mile, he would spread it
around the site and felt it would enhance the development. He
took that to the Council . The Council felt that the 45' should
be preserved. He is keeping the greenbelt the width of the
property.
Mr. Smith: I would like to recommend that if informal hearings have taken
place, they be made part of the staff notes.
Discussion was held regarding the elevation plan.
David Evans, 38117 Bloomfield: The question of landscaping was brought up and the
residents would like to see as much landscaping as possible.
We have complained about the island in the middle of Laurel
Park Drive. No one wants to clean it . We would like to see some
consideration given to having the commercial buildings maintain
the island somewhat nicer than it is now.
Mr. Morrow: is that the City's?
Mr. Nagy: It is the City's right-of-way. It is the responsibility of the
adjoining property owners to maintain it. Both proprietors should
share the responsibility of maintaining the island.
Marcella Sowa, 38145 Bloomfield Drive: I am concerned about the hours of operation, the
j traffic and the type of operation that is going in on Six Mile
because of the children.
Dennis Davis representing Tidewater Restaurants: In communities where there is housing
around, I assure you that in all of our restaurants, in the food-
to-liquor ratio, liquor is less than 20%. We do not have bands
or dancing or anything to solicit the large use of alcohol . We
intend this operation to specialize in char grilling. A small
part of the cooking in this restaurant will be exposed and that
part will be the grill . The kitchen closes at 11 :00 and the bar
one hour later and usually 10:00 on Sunday. We open for lunch
at 11 :00 or 11 :30, seven days a week. On Sunday, we open at
3:00 and Saturday at noon. Monday through Friday at 11 :00.
Ms. Sowa: In the event Mr. Serras goes out of business what ype of restau-
rant can come into this building in the future?
Mr. Morrow: The waiver use would run with the particular site.
Ms. Sowa: Could it be a fast-food?
Mr. Davis : The financial commitment to this particular structure will be
substantial . I assure you no fast-food restaurant could afford
to go in there. This will be the finest interior decor and an
exclusive menu -- about $10.00 for dinner. This will be a classy
operation all the way.
Ms. Sowa: How long have you been in the restaurant business?
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1 ,10 Mr. Davis: All my life with two year of college. My parents and grand-
parents were in it.
Mrs. Sobolewski : When would you start building?
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Mr. Davis : 120 days from the date we get all our approvals.
Resident of Bicentennial Estates Subdivision : Laurel Park South went under and the road
resurfacing never took place. I would question putting in 213
parking spots and the traffic. I am wondering if the road is
capable.
Mr. Nagy: The Engineering Division has taken into consideration that this
area would go professional and commercial . The road will be
re-surfaced. The subdivision to the south is slow in develop-
ing. The City doesn't encourage completion until the completion
of the subdivision because of the heavy equipment.
Thomas Gobel : I would support this. If you are going to recognize all these
office buildings in Laurel Park, you are going to have to recognize
the need for restaurants to serve them.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Morrow,
Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 84-7-2-26 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Vyhnalek, seconded by Mrs. Naidow and unanimously adopted,
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#8-166-84 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on August 21 ,
1984 on Petition 84-7-2-26 by Cummings, McClorey, Davis & Acho request-
ing waiver use approval to construct a restaurant on the southeast corner
of Six Mile and Laurel Park Drive South in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 18,
the City Planning Commission does hereby determine to table Petition 84-7-2-26
until the Planning Commission's Regular Meeting of August 28, 1984.
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mrs. Sobolewski , Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 84-7-2-27
by Cummings, McClorey, Davis & Acho requesting waiver use approval to
utilize a Class C Liquor License within a restaurant proposed to be con-
structed at the southeast corner of Six Mi le Road and Laurel Park Drive
South in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 18.
*Mr. Kluver entered the meeting at 9:20 p.m.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Smith, seconded by Mrs. Naidow and unanimously adopted,
it was
#8-167-84 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on August 21 ,
1984 on Petition 84-7-2-27 by Cummings, McClorey, Davis & Acho request-
ing waiver use approval to construct a restaurant on the southeast
corner of Six Mile and Laurel Park Drive South in the Northeast 1/4
of Section 18, the City Planning Commission does hereby determine to table
Petition 84-7-2-27 until the Planning Commission's Regular Meeting of
August 28, 1984.
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Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
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x Mrs. Sobolewski , Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 84-8-2-28
by Ferruccio P. DeConti requesting waiver use approval to construct an
addition with sit-down facilities to an existing restaurant located on
the northwest corner of Plymouth Road and Arcola in the Southeast 1/4 of
Section 25.
Mr. Nagy: There is a letter in the file from the Engineering Division stating
there are no engineering problems connection with with petition.
Norman Masters, 22114 Telegraph, Southfield, owner of the store: The proposal is to
not have an addition but to do interior remodeling to have sit-
down dining. The parking requirements are such that we fall
short by four because the parking along the side of the building
was not allowed to be considered for that although it has been
used for that for twenty years. The Council allowed us to use
it in 1977 and we have a letter to that effect. We are asking
that those be allowed for the sit-down requirement.
Mr. Morrow: The City is sanctioning those as parking places, is that correct?
Mr. Nagy: Yes.
Mr. Morrow: And that, in addition to the others, will satisfy the parking
requirements.
Mr. Vyhnalek: You said you are not expanding. What is in this ;area now?
4 Mr. Masters: The existing building is used for Kentucky Fried Chicken but
has space that was never used before. We are moving that back.
Mr. Vyhnalek: I have no objection to this but in the past, we have had exper-
iences where you say twenty seats and six months later there are
forty. I hope you keep it to the twenty.
Mr. Masters: Our plan is for that. We have committed to that and if we were
to make any changes, we would inform you.
Mr. Kluver: With the renovation, do you plan on making any mechanical changes?
Mr. Masters : I believe there will be some of those things done and all will
be submitted to the Engineering Department. The equipment there
will not be changed but when we remodel , if we need additional
plumbing line up to the counter or electrical lines, I am sure
there will be changes in that way.
Mr. Kluver: Additional air conditioning - would it be low profile?
Mr. Masters : Kentucky Fried Chicken, nationally, are upgrading all their
facilities and so we are required to do it, too. From what I
know, there will be no major changes in the mechanical equipment.
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Detailed discussion was held regarding the building elevation plan and the screening
toof mechanical equipment.
There was no one present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Morrow,
Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 84-8-2-28 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Vyhnalek, seconded by Mrs. Hildebrandt and unanimously
adopted, it was
#8-168-84 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on August 21 ,
1984 on Petition 84-8-2-28 by Ferruccio P. DeConti requesting waiver use
approval to construct an addition with sit-down facilities to an existing
restaurant located on the northwest corner of Plymouth Road and Arcola
in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 25, the City Planning Commission does
hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 84-8-2-28 be approved
subject to the following conditions :
(1) that the Site Plan marked Sheet P-1 , dated 8/20/84, which is
hereby approved shall be adhered to;
(2) that any proposed additional signs shall be submitted to the
Planning Commission for approval prior to the issuance of a
Zoning Compliance Permit; and
(3) that any existing or proposed roof-mounted mechanical equipment
shall be screened from public view.
for the following reasons:
,' (1) The site has the capacity to accomodate the proposed use.
(2) The proposal complies with all of the special and general
requirements and standards set forth in Section 11 .03 and
19.06 of Zoning Ordinance #543.
(3) The proposed use will be compatible to and in harmony with
the surrounding uses in the area.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above hearing was given in accordance
with the provisions of Section 19.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr. Morrow, Chairman , declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mrs. Sobolewski , Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Preliminary Plat
approval for Bicentennial Estates Subdivision No. 2 proposed to be located
on the west side of Gill Road, north of Seven Mile Road in the Southwest
1/4 of Section 4.
Mr. Nagy: There is a letter in the file from Roy Moore dated 8/21/84
stating that he is concerned about the draing of the property
proposed for development as it affects his property. There is
a letter from Keith Reynolds dated 8/21/84 stating his concern
about the open ditches and flooding of his property. There is
also a letter in the file from the Engineering Division stating
that there appears to be no engineering problems connected with
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the subdivision and a letter from the Fire Department also stating
they have no objections.
IL Mrs. Sobolewski : I know what the correspondence said and evidently there is a
problem there. Did the Engineering Department have an opportunity
to investigate the problem? I am concerned. If there is a
problem, the neighbors should be respected enough to find out
what the problem is.
Mr. Nagy: I should mention that these letters were presented to us just
this evening and I have had no opportunity to advise the Commis-
sion or property owners of any solutions because we just became
aware of these concerns.
Lidia Veri , 33762 Veri Court, developer: This is not our fault . The water doesn't go
where it is supposed to go but it has nothing to do with Bicen-
tennial . I am not an engineer and I hoped Mike Priest would be
here to explain what could be done. We have talked to everybody
but nobody does anything about it but everybody blames us.
Mr. Morrow: One said that your property is higher and that causes the problem.
Mrs. Veri : We can't build a house lower than the road. They are not getting
water from Bicentennial but they are getting it from the other
subdivision, and the cemetery.
Mr. Morrow: It is your contention that you will handle your water without
any problems. I think the Engineering Department concurs with
that as far as this particular plan is concerned.
Keith Reynolds, 19751 Gill Road: The reason the water comes from the cemetery is that
they put in a 72" drain but they didn' t put it deep enough and
so they brought the street up. The Engineer wouldn't come out.
We have called them several times. They said not too long ago
that they wanted to put in a swale. The trouble is that St.
Martins is much higher than Gill Road. The house behind us built
much higher than our homes so we get the water run-off. The
Engineer from Livonia said they were right where they were supposed
to be. The Engineer wouldn' t talk to us unless DiAngelo was there.
Ray Moore, 19787 Gill Road: A 36" crock is not big enough to handle all the water and it
floods our back yards. I have had 2" of water on the garage floor.
The front yard has been covered with water. They run the 72"
crock up into a dry ditch. It should have been the ditch going
down.
Lawrence Wynn, 34624 St . Martins : The crock is right here on Lot 74. I live on Lot 75.
I have talked with Lidia's partner. The City of Livonia Engi-
neering Department approved this and told them where to put the
crock. Up in the subdivision behind Lot 70 there is a big crock
in the dry creek bed. Behind me on Lot 74 every time it rains I
am flooded and right across Moore's property when the snow melts.
This has been compounded by Biltmore dumping and raising their
property. I don't blame Lidia or the building company but I
blame the Engineering Department. They put the crocks in accord-
ing to their plan. The water doesn't run through the 72" crock;
it runs through the 36" crock. My thought would be that before
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any plot plan is approved, they had better find out where the
water is coming from and how it can be improved. It is like
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putting the large crock in the Rouge River and the small crock
in the Detroit River.
Mrs. Veri : We did what we were supposed to do.
Mr. Morrow: How do you feel about developing a new subdivision and how it is
going to impact you in your subdivision . As soon as Biltmore
gets to Seven Mile, the water will go where it is supposed to go.
Owner of Lot 66, 19295 Gary Lane: Our major concerns relate more particularly to Gary
Lane and St. Martins. There is only one way to get in and out
of the proposed subdivision. We are concerned because most of
the people have small children and there is a large amount of
construction traffic in that entire area. If there is only one
way in and otit of the area, this area will have a heavy burden
with the construction traffic and the people going in to look at
the models. Another problem is the dirt and dust. The land
immediately north is owned by the developer who is building
Windridge. What we would suggest as an alternative is that the
developer explore the possibility of the two developers working
together to see if they can get another outlet. We suggest
that Lidia look for another outlet into the subdivision. They
also indicated there would be a walkway in the subdivision so the
residents can have access to the park. It was never provided in
the first subdivision and if it isn't on the plan of the second
plat, it probably will never be provided. We were orally
promised by the developers that there would be one. If there is
IL no access, children will just start going through peoples' back-
yards. We feel the Commission should take into consideration the
health, safety and welfare of the people who live in the subdivi-
sion. We would like a second point of access for construction
trails to get in and out of the area and for people looking at
models.
T. Varrero (Lot 54) : The same problem exists from Haldane Avenue to Gary Lane. We
are about 31 feet higher than the house behind and there is
pondage there on a rainy day. There is a sewer there but it
doesn't handle all the water. And, there should be another access
to that area. There are many kids there and these heavy equipment
drivers are not careful . There should be another access to Gill
Road.
Mrs. Veri : How can I go to Gill Road. I don't own that land. There are
two houses there.
Owner of Lot 66: We believe we put the City on notice that we think there is
potential danger here and we want you to know that if a child is
hurt, we will not only bring suit against the two builders but
also against the City of Livonia because we feel we put on on
notice of the danger here.
T. Reid (Lot 68): 34816 St. Martins : We purchased that land last June and were not
notified that that land would be developed. I assure you that
whichever way you go, you have to pass my house. I would never
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have bought that property if I had know that. I don't think I
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could turn around and sell it because of the traffic and because
you are putting me and my children in jeopardy.
1[0 Property owner at 19487 Gary Lane: We purchased in September of 1983. We talked to
both builders and both told us there would be a phase II , and
that there would be a stree to Gill Road.
Richard Soper (64), 19643 Gary Lane: I think the whole question is whether we should be
landlocked or not. We are not asking them not to build north of
our property. All we are asking is that they put in another access.
Mrs. Veri has every right to put homes on the property but what
happens if a child were to be killed or maimed. It costs money
to put in a road but you can' t buy a child's life back.
Owner Of Lot 66: ;: Did Lidia every mention to her customers when selling the houses
that there would be a walkway to Bicentennial Park?
Mrs. Veri : If you want a walk, you can have a walk between Lot 65 and 66.
I have no objection to that.
Mr. Smith: If the other builder does not allow Lidia to use his property,
we would be right back where we started. Maybe arrangements
could be made for her to drive over his property. And, two of
you here will be on the right and left of the walkway to that
park and it has happened many times that the people on each side
of a walk way were here asking for us to close the walkway because
they didn't want to put up with the breaking of fences and other
problems connected with the walkway.
Owner of Lot 66: The City of Livonia who owns all of the property immediately to
the west may be able to work something out with Lidia to put in
a temporary path while she builds the subdivision.
Mr. Smith : That park was bought with Federal funds and cannot be used for
construction equipment. I think what we should do is to make a
suggestion that she meet with the professional planners and try
to come to agreement with the people who own the property on the
north and allow here to drive on their property.
Mr. Nagy: The City does not own all the land abutting the subdivision on
the west. There is fifteen acres that is owned by the Livonia
Public Schools. The City uses it for park purposes but the City
does not have title to it .
Mr. Nagy explained that the layout of this subdivision will be safer for the children
in the area by not putting another road out to Gill Road but
dead-ending it instead. With Windridge Subdivision, there will
be another access to the subdivision.
Mrs. D. Soper (`Lot 64): We purchased here because the only traffic we would get is within
the subdivision . The school wouldn't give us another bus and the
children have to walk through that construction to get to the
school bus and it is a very long way all the way around it.
IL There was no one else wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Morrow, Chairman,
declared the public hearing on the Preliminary Plat for Bicentennial Estates Subdivision
closed.
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On a motion duly made by Mr. Smith, seconded by Mrs. Sobolewski and unanimously adopted,
it was
I #8-169-84 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on August 21 , 1984
on the Preliminary Plat for Bicentennial Estate Subdivision No. 2 proposed to
be located on the west side of Gill Road, north of Seven Mile Road in the
Southwest 1/4 of Section 4, the City Planning Commission does hereby determine
to table the Preliminary Plat until the Regular Meeting of August 28, 1984.
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Vyhnalek and seconded by Mr. Smith, it was
#8-170-84 RESOLVED THAT, pursuant to Act 285 of the Public Acts of Michigan, 1931 , as
amended, the City Planning Commission does hereby establish and order that a
public hearing be held to determine whether or not to rezone property located
on the west side of Newburgh Road, north of Six Mile Road in the Southeast 1/4
of Section 7 from C-2 to P.O.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Hildebrandt, Naidow, Vyhnalek, Sobolewski , Smith, Morrow
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Kluver
ABSENT: Zimmer, Falk
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Naidow, seconded by Mr. Vyhnalek and unanimously adopted,
it was
#8-171-84 RESOLVED that, the minutes of the 480th Regular Meeting held by the
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City Planning Commission on August 14, 1984 are approved.
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Vyhnalek and seconded by Mr. Kluver, it was
#8-172-84 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Section 18.58 of Zoning Ordinance #543, the
City Planning Commission does hereby approve Petition 84-5-8-23P by
the Southland Corporation requesting approval of all plans required
by Section 18.58 submitted in connection with a proposal to construct
a 7-Eleven Store on the southwest corner of Seven Mile and Inkster
Roads in Section 12, subject to the following conditions :
(1) that Site Plan 84-5538, Sheet 1 , dated 8/2/84, prepared by
Nowak & Fraus, which is hereby approved shall be adhered to;
(2) that Building Elevation Plan 291844, Sheet A5, dated 8/20/84,
prepared by Panzica Architects, Inc. , which is hereby approved
shall be adhered to;
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On a motion duly made by Mr. Smith, seconded by Mrs. Sobolewski and unanimously adopted,
it was
#8-169-84 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on August 21 ,
1984 on the Preliminary Plat for Bicentennial Estates Subdivision No. 2
proposed to be located on the west side of Gill Road, north of Seven Mile
Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 4, the City Planning Commission does
hereby determine to table the Preliminary Plat until the Regular Meeting
of August 28, 1984.
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Vyhnalek and seconded by Mr. Smith, it was
#8-170-84 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Act 285 of the Public Acts of Michigan, 1931 ,
as amended, the City Planning Commission does hereby establish and order
that a public hearing be held to determine whether or not to amend Part VII
of the Master Plan of the City of Livonia, the Future Land Use Plan, by
changing the designation of property located on the west side of Newburgh
Road, north of Six Mile Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 7 from general
commercial to office.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Hildebrandt, Naidow, Vyhnalek, Sobolewski , Smith, Morrow
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Kluver
ABSENT: Zimmer, Falk
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Naidow, seconded by Mr. Vyhnalek and unanimously adopted,
it was
#8-171-84 RESOLVED that, the minutes of the 480th Regular Meeting held by the
City Planning Commission on August 14, 1984 are approved.
Mr. Morrow, Chairman , declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Vyhnalek and seconded by Mr. Kluver, it was
#8-172-84 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Section 18.58 of Zoning Ordinance #543, the
City Planning Commission does hereby approve Petition 84-5-8-23P by
the Southland Corporation requesting approval of all plans required
by Section 18.58 submitted in connection with a proposal to construct
a 7-Eleven Store on the southwest corner of Seven Mile and Inkster
Roads in Section 12, subject to the following conditions :
(1) that Site Plan 84-5538, Sheet 1 , dated 8/2/84, prepared by
Nowak & Fraus, which is hereby approved shall be adhered to;
(2) that Building Elevation Plan 291884, Sheet A5, dated 8/20/84,
prepared by Panzica Architects , Inc. , which is hereby approved
shall be adhered to;
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(3) that Landscape Plan 84-5538, Sheet 3, dated 7/19/84, prepared
by Nowak & Fraus, which is hereby approved shall be adhered to
with the added condition that a sprinkler system shall be installed
for all sodded areas;
(4) that all landscaping shall be installed on the site prior to
occupancy and maintained in a healthy condition; and
(5) that any air handling equipment proposed to be located on the
roof shall be screened by the roof parapet.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Kluver, Naidow, Vyhnalek, Sobolewski , Morrow
NAYS: Hildebrandt, Smith
ABSENT: Zimmer, Falk
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, announced that Item #9 concerning Petition 82-1-8-1 is removed
from the agenda.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Kluver, seconded by Mrs. Hildebrandt and unanimously
adopted, it was
#8-173-84 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Section 18.58 of Zoning Ordinance #543, the
City Planning Commission does hereby approve Petition 84-8-8-31P by
Harold Thomas Nursery requesting approval of all plans required by
Section 18.58 of Zoning Ordinance #543 submitted in connection with a
proposal to add a florist shop addition to the existing garden center
located on the west side of Middlebelt Road between Five Mile Road
and Linda Avenue in Section 23, subject to the following conditions :
(1) that Site Plan 84D-598, Sheet 1 , dated 8/9/84, prepared by
Affiliated Engineers, Inc. , which is hereby approved shall
be adhered to; and
(2) that Building Elevation Plan 84D-598, Sheet 2, dated 7/20/84,
prepared by Affiliated Engineering, Inc. , which is hereby
approved shall be adhered to.
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Naidow, seconded by Mr. Vyhnalek and unanimously adopted,
it was
#8-174-84 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby determine to
waive the provisions of Section 10 of Article VI of the Planning Com-
mission Rules of Procedure regarding the seven-day period concerning
effectiveness of Planning Commission resolutions in connection with
Petition 84-8-8-31P by Harold Thomas Nursery requesting approval of
all plans required by Section 18.58 of Zoning Ordinance #543 in con-
nection with a proposal to add a florist shop addition to the exist-
ing garden center located on the west side of Middlebelt Road between
Five Mile Road and Linda Avenue in Section 23.
4 Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
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On a motion duly made by Mr. Vyhnalek, seconded by Mr. Smith and unanimously adopted,
fi, it was
#8-175-84 RESOLVED that , the City Planning Commission does hereby approve Sign
Permit Application #1106 by John Damian; for approval to erect a wall
sign on a building located on the east side of Middlebelt Road between
Five and Six Mile Roads in Section 14, subject to the following con-
dition:
(1) that Sign Application #1106 by John Damiani is hereby approved
subject to the same conditions as set forth in Appeals Case
No. 8408-123.
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Kluver, seconded by Mr. Smith and unanimously adopted,
it was
#8-176-84 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve Sign
Permit Application #1170. by Euko Design/Signs, Inc. , for approval to
erect a wall sign on a building located on the southeast corner of
Plymouth and Middlebelt Roads in Section 36, subject to the following
condition:
(1) that Sign Application #1170 by Euko Design/Signs, Inc. , which
is hereby approved shall be adhered to.
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
I:
' On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 481st Regular Meeting
and Public Hearings held by the City Planning Commission on August 21 ,
1984, was adjourned at 11 :30 p.m.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
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Sue Sobolewski , Secretary
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