HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1979-03-29 6940
MINUTES OF THE 169th REGULAR MEETING
AND PUBLIC HEARINGS HELD BY THE CITY
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PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LIVONIA
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On Tuesday, March 20, 1979, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia,
held its 369th Regular Meeting and Public Hearings in the Livonia City Hall, 33001
Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. Daniel R. Andrew, Chairman, called the Regular Meeting and Public Hearings to
order at 8:00 p.m., with approximately 70 interested people in the audience.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Jerome Zimmer Joseph Falk Esther Friedrichs
C. Russell Smith R. Lee Morrow Daniel R. Andrew
Herman Kluver Suzanne Wisler Judith Scurto
Messrs. John J. Nagy, City Planning Director; H G Shane, Assistant City Planning
Director; Ralph H. Bakewell, Planner IV; and Robert M. Feinberg, Assistant City
Attorney, were also present.
Mr. Andrew then informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda involves
a rezoning request, this Commission only makes a recommendation to the City Council,
who in turn will then hold their own Public Hearing and decide the question. If a
petition involves a waiver use request, and the petition is denied by the Planning
Commission, the petitioner then has ten days in which to appeal for relief. Otherwise
the petition is terminated.
Mr. Andrew passed the gavel to Mr. Zimmer who acted as Chairman.
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Mr. Falk, Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda.is Petition 79-1-1-5 by
Jeanne Hildebrandt, Manager, Livonia Mall Shopping Center, requesting
to rezone property located on the north side of St. Martins Avenue, west
of Middlebelt, in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 2, from RUFA and R-1 to
C-2.
Mr. Nagy: The petition called and will not be able to attend the meeting. We
will proceed as we could not cancel at this late notice.
Mr. Zimmer: For the benefit of the audience I might explain at this point we would
ask the petitioner to come forth but as you heard Mrs. Hildebrandt could
not be here. She is representing the people who own and operate the Mall.
The petition is requesting a rezoning of property in order to construct
a warehouse for a catalogue showroom. The petitioner sees that use as
being compatible with the shopping center it adjoins to the south. That
essentially would be her words to you tonight. We would then ask'if there
are any questions from the Commission?
Mrs. Scurto: Does the petitioner own this property now or is it an option?
Mr. Nagy: They are the owners of the property.
Mrs. Scurto: How long.?
_ Mr. Nagy: At the time of the purchase of the lands of the Livonia Mall.
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Mrs. Scurto: Were the back lots purchased from those people that live there now?
Mr. Nagy: I don't believe so.
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Keith Koch: I would like to know what they are going to put around the property
29661 Bretton to keep the noise out from the residents?
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4 Mr. Zimmer: In C-2 a wall would be required around the entire perimeter that abuts
residential property.
Keith Koch: Would it be compatible to our backyards?
Mr. Zimmer: It will be a masonary wall of some 5 to 7 feet.
Mr. Koch: This area has acted as a buffer for us from the Mall. I would like to
see it stay that way.
Harold Mackler: I wonder if the road as it is presently constructed could handle
29310 St. Martin semi trucks that would be going to this warehouse?
Mr. Zimmer: As the site would develop it would be expected to be adequate to service
that area.
Mr. Mackler: Are there specifications for roads that handle semis?
Mr. Nagy: Road specifications are thicker concrete, deep strength asphalt.
Mr. Mackler: Does St. Martins meet those specifications?
Mr. Nagy: I cannot answer that. I lack information on that.
1[4Mr. Zimmer: I appreciate that comment. We will keep that in mind.
Mrs. Wagner: The woods on this property keep our area very tranquil and peaceful.
0 29641 Bretton I would not like to see a big warehouse there.
Mr. Zimmer: It is currently zoned residential. You must understand that something
is going to happen. They could build a lot of howes there. Unfortunately
it will not remain wooded forever.
Keith Koch: One other question I have, how much time would pass before they would
rezone all the RUF down the line?
Mr. Zimmer: It is probably a likely thing that if this petition was granted
the other RUF property could be changed.
F. Walters: Is there a guaranty that the existing property level will stay
29727 Bretton where it is?
Mr. Zimmer: I have no information on that. It will have some impact, whether
it is favorable or otherwise I could not say.
Mrs. Wagner: This parcel is like a park now. It is fairly well treed. This development
will more than likely devalue the homes.
Mr. Zimmer: I appreciate your comments.
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Mrs. Hellen: At the time we bought our home which was 19 years ago it was all
residential. I do feel we will be bothered with trucks. I would
prefer to have it residential.
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Mr. Zimmer: Did you ever try to buy the parcel behind you?
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Mrs. Hellen: Yes, the owner offered to sell the six parcels to the six property
29549 Bretton owners but not unless all six property owners were all interested.
Only two of us could afford or were interested in the pieces so
the owner would not sell.
Betty Parsley: I have the first 1/2 acre lot. I have to say "no". The noise would
29621 be something terrible. The noise as it is now bothers me now. I hope
Bretton it could be stopped.
Mr. Zimmer: You own the first west lot.
Mrs. Parsley: I would have all the wall.
Mr. Andrew: How long have you been there?
Mrs. Parsley: Five years.
Stan Ryzinski: Does the City of Livonia do any surveys as to the needs of the
29701 Bretton area?
Mr. Zimmer: About 4 to 5 years ago we had a "Future Land Use" plan developed
primarily by the Planning Department. This land in question on
the Future Land Use plan indicates low density residential. We pay
great attention to this. It is a published fact. The southern portion
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density residential.
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Mr. Ryzinski: As far as that area it is getting highly commercial from St. Martins
to Seven Mile.
Mrs. Scurto: How would the moeowners feel about multip'e apartment dwellings?
Mr. Zimmer: We do not think the petitioner would be successful in a venture of
building homes on these large lots. If it stays residential it probably
will have some type of multiple dwelling.
Mrs. Scurto: I would like to add that someone is paying taxes on that land and they
have the right to develop that land but in what fashion we will have to
determine.
Mr. Mackler: I have seen an original plan of the Mall and at that time they had
planned a building right in there. It was never built.
Mr. Nagy: This is the first I have heard of that. Possibility the developer thought
about it but never petitioned the City for the proper change in zoning.
There has been no petition on this property since 1952. There has never
been a request that has been denied.
Mr. Koch: What kind of multiple apartments would be built. Three-story?
Mr. Nagy: There is a garden type that would limit it to no more than two stories
and there is a high rise zoning classification.
Mr. Koch: I would favor only one or two stories.
Mrs. Parsley: Some kind of medical building with trees to block out the building
would be fine.
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Mr. Ryzinski: Is there a height restriction on the proposed commercial building?
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Mr. Nagy: 35 feet.
Mr. Zimmer: Are there any further comments on this matter?
There was no one else wishing to discuss this matter, Mr. Zimmer declared the Public
Hearing on Petition 79-1-1-5 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Andrew, seconded by Mr. Morrow, and adopted, it was
#3-35-79 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on March 20,
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1979 on Petition 79-1-1-5 as submiited by Jeanne M. Hildebrandt, Manager,
Livonia Mall Shopping Center, requesting to rezone property located on the
north side of St. Martins Avenue, west of Middlebelt in the Southeast 1/4
of Section 2, from RUFA and R-1 to C-2, the City Planning Commission does
hereby table Petition 79-1-1-5 until the Study Meeting of April 3, 1979.
A roll call vote on the above motion resulted in the following:
AYES: Kluver, Friedrichs, Morrow, Wisler, Andrew
NAYS: Smith, Zimmer, Scurto, Falk
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Morrow: I would like to point out that on the Future Land Use plan both
high and low density residential are shown on this parcel, the RUF
portion being the high density and the R-1 being the low density.
Mr. Falk, Secretary announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 79-2-1-6 by
Greenfield Construction Company to rezone property located on the south
side of Six Mile Road between Newburgh Road and the I-275 Freeway in the
Northeast 1/4 of Section 18, from P.S. to C-2.
Ron Seeley: We would like to rezone part of the P.S. district, that part being
Representing the northwest corner. It is 3+ acres and it will accommodate Win
Schuler's. We still have 6 more acres left for the P.S. zoning.
The area proposed is at the southeast corner of Laurel Park Drive South
and Six Mile Road.
Mr. Zimmer: Are there any questions from the Commission: From the audience?
J.Grigsby: Is there a letter of intent filed? If Win Schuler's should decide not
16111 Huff to carry through their plan and it is rezoned to C-2 some other place
could go in.
Mr. Nagy: Win Schuler's has joined in as co-petitioner. There is a representative
here tonight.
Mr. Grigsby: I have no problems with a Win Schuler's.
Mr. Zimmer: Any more discussion on this matter?
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There was no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Zimmer declared the Public
Hearing on Petition 79-2-1-6 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Scurto, seconded by Mr. Falk, and unanimously adopted,
it was
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#3-36-79 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on March 20,
1979 on Petition 79-2-1-6 as submitted by Greenfield Construction Company
to rezone property located on the south side of Six Mile Road, west of
1[: Newburgh Road, in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 18, from P.S. to C-2, the
City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that
Petition 79-2-1-6 be approved, for the following reasons:
(1) The proposed zoning will be compatible to and in harmony with
adjacent zoning.
(2) The proposed C-2 zoning will be efectively separated from the Laurel
Park residential subdivision to the south by an adjacent office
zoning district.
(3) The proposed zoning will provide for land uses that are in harmony
with the overall Laurel Park concept for quality development.
(4) The proposed zoning will provide for commercial services needed to
serve the existing and future residents in the surrounding areas
as well as the future residents and employees of the Laurel Park
complex.
FURTHER resolved that, notice of the above Public Hearing was published
in the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer, under date of 3/1/79
and a notice of such hearing was sent to the Detroit Edison Company,
Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company,
Consumers Power Company and City Departments as listed in the Proof of
Service.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Friedrichs, seconded by Mrs. Wisler and unanimously
adopted, it was
#3-37-79 AND THAT, the City Planning Commission does hereby waive the provisions
of Section 10 of Article VI of the Planning Commission Rules of Procedure
regarding the seven-day period concerning effectiveness of Planning
Commission resolutions.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Falk announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 79-2-1-7 by A.S.Nakadar,
M.D., to rezone property located on the west side of Farmington Road, south
of Eight Mile Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 4, from RUFA to P.S.
Fred Armour: We would like to reverse the building that had been started on the
Representing north. Now we would like to get a small ambulatory hospital and several
Dr.Nakadar doctors' offices that willsurround the hospital. The hospital wile].
be staffed by the doctors from the surrounding offices.
Mrs. Scurto: Are you going to remove that house?
Mr. Armour: Yes.
1: Mrs. Friedrichs: By small ambulatory hospital, do you mean overnight patients, or
on an in and out basis?
Mr. Armour: There will be no overnight patients.
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Mrs. Friedrichs: What is the approximate size of the hospital?
Mr. Armour: We don't know. It would not be too large.
Mrs. Friedrichs: It will be staffed by doctors located on that piece of property?
Mr. Armour: Yes, we are hopeful to have six buildings there.
Mr. Morrow: What are the hours of operations and days of the week?
Mr. Armour: I don't know.
Mr. Morrow: It will be an emergency type, no appointment, 7 days, 24 hours kind?
Mr. Armour: It will be for treatment of emergencies without appointments, yes.
Mr. Andrew: I have no difficulty with what you are proposing but as far as calling
the center building a hospital I believe it is better referred to as
a medical clinic.
Mrs. Friedrichs: A day clinic.
Mr. Andrew: The house that will be removed has the Van Kote sign in front of it.
Mr. Armour: Yes.
Mr. Zimmer: Any questions from the audience? Any futher comments from the Commission?
There was no one present wishing to speak any further on this matter, Mr. Zimmer
declared the Public Hearing on Petition 79-2-1-7 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Friedrichs, seconded by Mrs. Wisler, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#3-38-79 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on March
20, 1979 on Petition 79-2-1-7 as submitted by Fred Armour for A.S.
Nakadar requesting to rezone property located on the west side of
Farmington Road, south of Eight Mile'Road in the Northeast 1/4 of
Section 4, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the
City Council that Petition 79-2-1-7 be approved for the following reasons:
(1) The proposed zoning will provide for uses that are consistent with
the Future Land Use Plan recommendation for this general area.
(2) The proposed zoning is compatible with the surrounding zoning and/or
uses adjacent thereto.
(3) The proposed zoning will provide for uses that will act as a transition
or buffer between commercial uses and adjacent residential areas.
(4) The proposed zoning represents a small expansion of the P.S. zoning
district recently granted on property immediately north and adjacent
to the area of this petition.
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li FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above Public Hearing was published
in the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer, under date of 3/1/79 and
a notice of such hearing was sent to the Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake
& Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company, Consumers Power
Company and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Falk announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 79-2-1-8 by Plymouth
Investment Company to rezone property located south of Eight Mile Road
between Gill and Wayne Roads in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 4, from
RUFB to R-3, R-4 and R-5.
Mr. Zimmer: Is the petitioner present?
Gil Franklin: Yes. Originally we had proposed R-3 for the entire parcel but
Representing after the Mayor's veto, we revised our proposal to include R-4
Petitioner and R-5. We have met with the Mayor and the Planning Dept. and
have gone over the proposal.
Mr. Zimmer: A few larger lots in some portion but it is fair to say it is somewhat
the same character principally an R-4 type development.
Philip Derosia: With these larger lots in the north section of this subdivision
19805 Gill what will this do to my property value with some smaller lots downs flit
other part?
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Mr. Zimmer: I don't know. We have no feel for that.
Mr. Derosia: What about paving and sewers?
Mr. Zimmer: The developer will pave from Eight Mile to the end of Lot No. 2 on
Gill Road.
Mr. Nagy: The paving will extend a little further south. It will be slightly
south of Lot 2. There are other developers who will share in the
cost to pave a portion of Gill coming north from Seven Mile. The
sewer will come from the southeast.
Larry Roesner: The backside of some of the end lots on Norfolk are low and have
34805 Norfolk a foot of water in the backyards. There are ducks there. With this
subdivision coming up behind there what will that do to the low spots.
Mr. Nagy: Those problems will be worked out at a later date. Right now this is
a question of rezoning.
Mr. Roesner: Will this affect Laurel?
Mr. Zimmer: No.
Mr. Roesner: I would like to see the R-3 extended to R-4.
Mr. Andrew: Does the sewer come from Windridge and cross Gill?
Mr. Nagy: It comes up through Windridge on the east side of Gill. It does
not come up from intersection of Gill and Seven Mile.
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Mr. Andrew: As we deveop #3 on the eastside of Gill, south of Eight, those lots
iii0will back up to Gill?
Mr. Nagy: Combination.
Mr. Andrew: Will these people have a sewer to tap into?
Mr. Nagy: When we have the subdivision plans we will be able to more accurately
advise then.
Mr. Andrew: I thought my question was premature.
Mr. Derosia: If the paving will go slightly south in front of my property,
then only half will be paved. Did anyone ever try to back up on
half pavement and half gravel.
Mr. Zimmer: We understand your predictment. That is a fair question and it is
going to be studied.
Mrs. Wisler: Do we on plat approvals notify the same people as a matter of routine?
Mr. Nagy: On plat approvals, the abutting neighbors are notified.
Mrs. Wisler: A spokesman can be notified at the time of plat approval. We hope
that the revised proposal of petitioner is some kind of a compromise
and does answer some of the things you were looking for, and we were
looking for.
110 Mr. Zimmer: If we could include those two gentlemen on our notification list and
ask them to spread the word when the plat comes up.
Mr. Roesner: The sewer is a key point.
Andrew Schropp: There is low land here on the lots that are on Eight Mile.
35045 Eight Mi. What are we going to do when they go up one foot higher?
Mr. Zimmer: Engineering will take a close look at that and report their recommendations
to us. Any further comments or questions.
There was no one else present wishing to speak any further on this matter, Mr. Zimmer
declared the Public Hearing on Petition 79-2-1-8 closed.
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On a motion duly made by Mrs. Wisler, seconded by Mrs. Friedrichs, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#3-39-79 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on March 20,
1979 on Petition 79-2-1-8 as submitted by Plymouth Investment Company
requesting to rezone property located south of Eight Mile Road, west of Gill
Road, in the west half of Section 4, from RUF to R-5, R-4 and R-3, the City
Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition
79-2-1-8 be approved for the following reasons:
(1) The proposed change of zoning is in accord with the spirit and purpose
of the Future Land Use Plan and the aopted land use goals and policies
of the Master Plan of the City of Livonia.
(2) The proposed change of zoning will provide for residential lot sizes
consistent with and compatible to the adjoining developed residential
properties.
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(3) The proposed change of zoning provides for a good transitional plan
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between the recently approved developement to the south and east
and the older, established residential neighborhood to the north.
(4) The proposed change of zoning and related housing development will
provide for public improvements that will be benefical to the
neighboring area.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above Public Hearing was published
in the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer, under date of 3/1/79,
and a notice of such hearing was sent to the Detroit Edison Company,
Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company,
Consumers Power Company and City Departments as listed in the Proof of
Service.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Falk announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 79-1-3-1 by Marvin R.
Stempien for Gerald C. May, requesting the vacating of the south 1/2
of Leon Avenue located north of Ann Arbor Road, west of Newburgh Road
in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 31.
Mr. Zimmer: Is there any correspondence?
Mr. Nagy: There is a letter from Gary Clark, Engineering. There is a letter
dated March 8, 1979 from Detroit Edison which Mr. Clark responded
to on March 14, 1979 indicating a clarification was needed from
Detroit Edison regarding their March 8, 1979 letter. As yet Engineering
has not received a response from Detroit Edison. There is no comment
from the Wayne County Road Commission as yet.
Mr. Zimmer: Petitioner wants to place the building over a portion of the vacated area.
Mr. Nagy: They are requesting the vacating on the south half of Leon Avenue only
and the new building would occupy a portion of the vacated area.
Greg Stempien: I am here in my brother's absence. He is representing the petitioner.
33900 School- It is the petitioner's intention to raze the present building on the
craft site and build a new Class C structure. We must have more parking. We
would move the new building back about 25 feet and vacate a street which
• has never been improved. It is an undeveloped street. The water level
comes very close to where the street is now.
Mr. Zimmer: Are you aware that the Engineering Department has requirements having
to do with the ceptic system presently there?
Mr. Stempien: I don't see that there would be a problem in improving the present
conditions and updating the facilities in the future. It will have to
be taken care of.
Mr. Zimmer: Any questions from the audience?
Mr. Andrew: How can we proceed when we have no recommendation from Detroit Edison?
Mr. Zimmer: It would seem that we cannot. Any further comments?
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There was no one present wishing to speak any further on this matter, Mr. Zimmer
declared the Public Hearing on Petition 79-1-3-1 closed.
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On a motion duly made by Mr. Andrew, seconded by Mrs. Scurto, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#3-40-79 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Public Hearing having been held on March 20,
1979 on Petition 79-1-3-1 as submitted by Marvin R. Stempien for Gerald
C. May requesting to vacate the south 25 feet of Leon Avenue located
west of Newburgh Road, north of Ann Arbor Road, in the Northeast 1/4 of
Section 31, the City Planning Commission does hereby table the matter
to the Study Meeting of March 27, 1979.
Mr. Zimmer: Should we hear from the Detroit Edison we would be willing to have a
special meeting to expedite things for the petitioner.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Falk, Secretary, announced the next item on the Agenda is Petition 79-2-3-2
by Alan R. Ettinger, D.D.S. , requesting the vacating of a public alley
located south of Seven Mile Road between Sunset and Bainbridge in the
Northwest 1/4 of Section 11.
Mr. Zimmer: Any correspondence on the petition?
Mr. Nagy: We have a letter dated March 6, 1979 addressed to the City Planning
Commission from Ford L. Isanhart who owns the property adjoining the
alley. We sent Mr. Isanhart a letter on March 12, 1979 answering his
questions.
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Mr. Zimmer: Does Mr. Isanhart have a turn around problem?
Mr. Nagy: Not in our opinion. He has 9 feet fm m the garage to the alley plus
he will obtain 10 feet as a result of the alley vacation.
Mrs. Friedrichs: Is it possible to have the wall waived?
Mr. Nagy: Where there is an established alley there is no requirement for a
wall. If the alley is vacated a wall will be needed and a waiver
could be sought by the Zoning Board of Appeals because of the easement
problems.
Mrs. Wisler: If the alley is not vacated he could put up a greenbelt.
Dr. Ettinger: I believe a greenbelt would look better than a wall.
Mr. Zimmer: Why do you want us to vacate the alley?
Dr. Ettinger: My architect suggested that the City would prefer that and it would
look better.
Mr. Zimmer: There is no building problem, just as a matter of appearance.
10 Dr. Ettinger: I have no building problem. It would look better for the man abutting that.
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. Zimmer: As soon as you vacate the alley you will be required to put up a wall.
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You can petition to the Zoning Board to waive that wall.
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. Shane: The plan shows 6 feet of the alley as a greenbelt.
. Zimmer: The site plan has taken some leberties to add in some things on public
property.
Mr. Nagy: The west 1/2 of the alley has been vacated. The garage does not utilize
it. I would recommend vacation of the alley.
Mr. Zimmer: Is there anyone present that would like to speak on this matter?
There was no one present wishing to speak any further on this matter, Mr. Zimmer declared
Public Hearing on Petition 79-2-3-2 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Morrow, seconded by Mrs. Scurto, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#3-41-79 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on March 20,1979
on Petition 79-2-3-2 as submitted by Alan R. Ettinger, D.D.S. , requesting to
vacate a 20 foot wide alley located south of Seven Mile Road between Sunset and
Bainbridge in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 11, the City Planning Commission does
hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 79-2-3-2 be approved for the
following reasons:
1) The area encompassed by the existing alley right-of-way is not currently
developed and could be more advantageously used in conjunction with
ILadjacent properties.
2) No City departments or public utility companies have objected to the
proposed vacating provided a full-width easement is retained.
3) No public purpose could be served by retaining this alley as public
right-of-way.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above Public Hearing was published in
the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer-Eccentric, under date of 3/1/79
and notice of such hearing was sent to the Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake
& Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Company, Consumers Power Company and City
Departments as listed in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Falk, Secretary, announced the next item on the Agenda is Preliminary Plat approval
for Paragon Industrial Park proposed to be located on the east side of Newburgh
Road between the I-96 Freeway and the C & 0 Railway in Section 29.
Mr. Nagy: We have a letter dated March 12, 1979 from the Industrial Development
Coordinator, Mr. Gilmartin. We have a letter dated March, 1979 from
Division of Fire, Ted Kovarik. We have a letter from Engineering dated
March 19, 1979 from Gary Clark and a letter dated March, 1979 from
Inspection from Mr. Kerby.
r. Andrew: Your cul-de-sac encroaches on a piece of property that I assume is owned
by you.
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arold Blumenstein: An existing road that does belong to the City of Livonia.
4aragon Industries
•ir. Zimmer: Is there anyone present that would like to comment on the petition?
lfhere was no one present wishing to speak any further on this matter, Mr. Zimmer
declared Public Hearing on the Preliminary Plat approval for Paragon Industrial Park closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Smith, seconded by Mrs. Wisler, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#3-42-79 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on March 20, 1979,
the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that
the Preliminary Plat for Paragon Industrial Subdivision proposed to be located
on the east side of Newburgh Road between the I-96 Freeway and the C & 0 Railway
in Section 29, be approved for the following reasons:
1) The Preliminary Plat meets or exceeds the requirements of the Zoning
Ordinance and Subdivision Rules and Regulations.
2) The Plat makes good use of a small land area in that it provides for a
a variety of lot sizes.
3) The Preliminary Plat is recommended by the Industrial Development
Commission for approval.
r. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and foregoing resolution adopted.
?r. Falk, Secretary, announced tie next item on the Agenda is Preliminary Plat approval
t" for Laurel Park Professional Center proposed to be located on the south side
of Six Mile Road, west of Newburgh Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 18.
Mr. Nagy: There is a letter dated March 13, 1979 from the Inspection Department
from Frank Kerby. There is a letter dated March, 1979 from Division of
Fire from Ted Kovarik. There is a letter dated March, 1979 from Parks
and Recreation from Mr. Reinke and a letter dated March 19, 1979 from
Engineering from Mr. Clark.
Mr. Andrew: There is a 50-foot dedication for professional center drive.
Mr. Nagy: They indicated that since there is no need for sidewalks, no plan to extend
utilities therefore a 50-foot was sufficient for this particular situation.
I think it is feasible to have it in the file.
Ray Martin: Any further splits would be in violation of the Plat Act.
Greenfield Const.
Mrs. Scurto: Can we assume by these small parcels these will not be low profile buildings?
Mr. Martin: Far assumption.
Mr. Andrew: Should we get clarification on the easement dedication for the utilities
that may not go in?
i.. Nagy: We could table the matter for purposes of clarification.
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Zimmer: Is there anyone present wishing to be heard on this matter?
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dere was no one present wishing to speak any further on this matter, Mr. Zimmer declared
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Hearing on petition for Preliminary Plat approval for Laurel Park Professional
inter closed.
n a motion duly made by Mr. Andrew, seconded by Mr. Falk, and unanimously adopted, it was
#3-43-79 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on March 20, 1979
on the Preliminary Plat approval for Laurel Park Professional Center proposed to
be located on the south side of Six Mile Road, west of Newburgh Road in the
Northeast 1/4 of Section 18, the City Planning Commission does hereby table it
until March 27, 1979.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Falk, Secretary, announced the next item on the Agenda is Preliminary Plat approval
for Laurel Park South Subdivision No. 2 proposed to be located on the west side
of Newburgh Road between Five and Six Mile Roads in Section 18.
Mr. Nagy: We have a letter dated March, 1979 from Inspection from Frank Kerby.
We have a letter dated March 14, 1979 from Division of Fire from Ted
Kovarik. We have a letter dated March, 1979 from Engineering from Gary
Clark and a letter dated March 20, 1979 from Division of Fire from Ted
Kovarik.
if. Zimmer: When they dropped the park did the lot sizes change? There were some lots
larger than were required.
. Nagy: No. With the omission of the park the cul-de-sac was added, and the depth
of those lots around the cul-de-sac comply with the R-3 zoning district
regulations.
Mr. Zimmer: Did we hear from the police?
Mr. Nagy: We have a letter dated March 20, 1979 from Division of Police from
Lieutenant Widmaier.
Mr. Zimmer: Are we stuck with the name of Blue Skies on both sides?
Mr. Nagy: That is usual procedure.
Mr. Zimmer: What about the fire station on Newburgh? When will that happen?
Mr. Nagy: The Fire Department indicates that it is 5 to 6 years off.
Mr. Andrew: How did the question of not extending Blue Skies come about?
Mr. Zimmer: It came about at our Study Meeting because the existing homeowners in the
area on Blue Skies were opposed to the extension.
Mrs. Scurto: When you saw the plot layout last week, there was option that the
engineering drawing has presented, an alternative in the petitioner's mind.
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Zimmer: That being the continuation of Myrna.
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.ike Priest: The majority of the lots are in excess of the minimum of lot area and size.
*igineer for We have 80 x 120 lots. We have four tiers of lots that are 135 feet in
410/evelopment depth. Some are 128 feet in depth. In the courts they are all larger than
the minimum requirement. There already exists park land on the west and
south side. We are going to connect a water main to Blue Skies.
Mr. Zimmer: Do you have a preference as to whether Blue Skies or Myrna goes through?
Mr. Paciocco: We don't care.
Mr. Andrew: I thought Mr. Clark wanted Myrna to go through.
Mr. Priest: I don't agree.
Mrs. Wisler: I don't remember discussing the possibility of Myrna going through.
We did not provide for Myrna to turn around.
Mrs. Strom: I object to Blue Skies being opened. There would be too much traffic.
15796 Blue Skies Ct.
Roy Smith: A "stop" sign means no faster than 45 miles per hour. I am against cutting
Corner Blue Skies the street through. The traffic would be tremendous in our area.
and Stonehouse
Jerry Kastansa: I am opposed to opening that street.
Phomas Ploch: With the omission of the park how many lots are gained.
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r. Priest: 7 lots
Mr. Ploch: I have no way to get to the existing park.
Mrs. Scurto: From the new subdivision the builder should provide some type of easement
to the park.
Jim Quinland: I do not see an advantage to extend Myrna to Blue Skies. I do not think
15645 Blue Skies Blue Skies as it is presently constructed can accommodate that heavy
traffic. Wayne Road between 6 and 7 Mile is much wider.
Chuck Botorowicz: I think that Myrna should be dead ended where it is.
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Roger Glenn: I would like to reiterate what the other gentleman said about the width
15556 Blue of Blue Skies. I think that they should also include the park and not waive
Skies Ct. that.
Mr. Zimmer: I would like to comment on the waiver. That provision is there for the
developer to ask. We will get a report from Parks and Recreation. It is
not in our best interests for the City to maintain the parks. Sometimes
these areas are problem areas for the City.
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gimes Grigsby: I would like to see open space included. We have no open area in our
111 Huff subdivision.
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Charles L. Hammond: I am opposed to opening Blue Skies.
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Mr. Falk: We are takingtheprofessional
opinion of our Fire Department very
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Mr. Hammond: The Fire Department would have quicker access off of Newburgh onto
Myrna than coming through our subdivision.
Mr. Quinlan: Wtiiat about a police report on the potential safety hazard of children
if Blue Skies were opened?
R. Morro: I would like to see some walkways added to get to the park.
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Mr. Zimmer: Are there any further comments?
Mr. Andrew: I think there might be a design problem on the water main at Myrna.
There was no one else present withing to speak any further on this matter, Mr.
Zimmer declared the Public Hearing on petition for Preliminary Plat approval for
Laurel Park South Subdivision No. 2 proposed to be located on the west side of
Newburgh Road between Five and Six Mile in Section 18.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Scurto, seconded by Mrs. Wisler, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#3-44-79 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on March 20,
1979, the Preliminary Plat approval for Laurel Park South Subdivision No. 2
proposed to be located on the west side of Newburgh Road between Five and
Six Mile Roads in Section 18, the City Planning Commission does hereby
table until March 27, at which time a report from the Parks and Recreation
and Police Department would be received.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Andrew, seconded by Mrs. Scurto, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#-45-79 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve the
Greenbelt Landscape Plan and Entrance Marker Plan submitted in connection
with a condition of Preliminary Plat approval fOr Windridge Village
Subdivision #3 proposed to be located on the south side of Eight Mile
Road between Gill and Farmington Roads in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 4,
subject to the following conditions:
(1) that the Greenbelt Landscape and Entrance Marker Plan for Windridge
Village Subdivision No. 3 designated L.P. 78-12-107, prepared by
Geake Associates, which is hereby approved shall be adhered to;
(2) that the greenbelt shall be installed no later than the point in
time when 75% of the homes on Lots 303, 304, 305, 355, 356 and 358
I[ through 368 are occupied; and
(3) that each and every builder developing on lots abutting said greenbelt
shall notify, in writing, each prospective buyer of the subdivision
proprietor's requirement to install a greenbelt on the rear or side 20
feet of the subject lots as so noted on the plat.
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Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Scurto,, seconded by Mr. Falk, and unanimously adopted,
it was
411.11 #3-46-79 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve the
Final Plat for Woodcreek Farms Subdivision No. 3 proposed to be
located on the east side of Farmington Road between Rayburn and Myrna
in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 15, for the following reasons:
(1) The final plat conforms to the previously approved Preliminary Plat.
(2) The Engineering Division of the City of Livonia recommends approval
of the Final Plat.
(3) All of the financial obligations imposed upon the proprietor by the
City have been complied with.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Andrew, seconded by Mr. Morrow, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#3-47-79 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby establish that
a public hearing be held to determine whether or not to amend the
Master Thoroughfare Plan by chaning the designation of Levan Road right-
of-way located between Plymouth and Schoolcraft Roads in Section 29, from
120 feet to 86 feet and to omit the designation of a grade separation
where Levan Road crosses the C & 0 Railway right-of-way.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Andrew, seconded by Mrs. Scurto, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#3-48-79 RESOLVED that, the minutes of the 368th Regular Meeting & Public Hearings
held by the City Planning Commission on February 20, 1979, be approved.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Scurto, seconded by Mrs. Wisler and unanimously adopted,
it was
#3-49-79 RESOLVED that, the minutes of the 326th Special Meeting held by the City
Planning Commission on February 27, 1979 be approved.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Friedrichs, seconded by Mrs. Wisler, and unanimously
adopted, it was
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IF #3-50-79 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Section 18.58 of Ordinance #543, the Zoning
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Ordinance of the City of Livonia, as amended by Ordinance #1306, the City
Planning Commission does hereby approve Petition 79-2-8-3P by Amoco Oil
410/ Company requesting approval of all plans required by Section 18.58 submitted
in connection with a proposal to construct one additional canopy on the
service station site located on the south side of Five Mile Road between
Levan Road and Country Club in Section 20, subject to the following
conditions:
(1) That Site Plan 5756, prepared by American Oil Company, dated 1/5/79,
which is hereby approved shall be adhered to; and
(2) That canopy elevations as shown on Plan 76021, prepared by Amoco
Oil Company, dated 10/18/77, which are hereby approved shall be
adhered to.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Smith, seconded by Mrs. Wisler , and unanimously
adopted, it was
#3-51-79 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve the Landscape
Plan submitted by Shiels Associates, Architects in connection with a
condition of approval of Petition 78-5-8-9 by Shiels Associates, Architects
for Vacri Land Company requesting approval of all plans required by Section
8.02 of Ordinance #543, in connection with a proposal to construct a multi-
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family housing project on the west side of Farmington Road between Curtis
and Pickford in Section 9, subject to the following conditions:
(1) that the Landscape Plan prepared by Vacril Land Development Company,
dated 2/26/79, which is hereby approved shall be adhered to;
(2) that all landscaping as shown on the approved plan shall be installed
on the site before a Certificate of Occupancy is issued for the
development;
(3) that all landscaping installed on the site shall be permanently main-
tained in a healthy condition; and
(4) that a sprinkling system shall be installed on the premises.
Mr. Zimmer declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 369th Regular Meeting
and Public Hearings held by the City Planning Commission on March 20, 1979 were
adjourned at 11:50 p.m.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
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