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MINUTES OF THE 357th REGULAR MEETING
• AND PUBLIC HEARINGS HELD BY THE CITY
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
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On Tuesday, July 18, 1978, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia held
its 357th Regular Meeting and Public Hearings in the Livonia City Hall, 33001 Five
Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. Daniel R. 'Andrew, Chairman, called the Regular Meeting and Public Hearings
to order at 8:10 p.m. , with approximately 40 interested citizens in the audience.
Members Present: Daniel R. Andrew Joseph J. Falk Esther Friedrichs
Suzanne Wisler Herman Kluver Jerome Zimmer
Robert L. Morrow Judith Scurto
Members Absent: C. Russ Smith - Company Business
Messrs. -John J. Nagy, City Planning Director; H G Shane, Assistant City Planning
Director; Ralph H. Bakewell, Planner IV; and David Stoker, Assistant City Attorney,
were also present.
Mr. Andrew then informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda involves
• a rezoning request, the Commission only makes a recommendation to the City Council
who in turn will hold their own Public Hearing and then decide the•question. If a
petition involves a waiver use request, and the petition is denied by the Planning
Commission, the petitioner then has ten days in which to appeal for relief. Otherwise
the petition is terminated.
Mr. Falk, Secretary announced the first item on the agenda is Petition 78-6-2-16
by Fred .Armour requesting waiver use approval to construct two car bays and
a storage addition to an existing building located on the south side of
Plymouth Road between Middlebelt Road and Milburn in the Northwest 1/4 of
Section 35.
' Mr. Andrew: Mr. .Nagy, any correspondence in the file regarding this petition?
Mr. Nagy: Yes, we have a letter from our Engineering Division indicating
no engineering problems connected with this proposal.
Mr. Andrew: Is the petitioner present?
Fred J. Armour: Yes.
27251 Joy Rd.
Mr. Andrew: Fred, one of the concerns of this Commission, discussed at the Study
-Meeting of last Tuesday, is whether or not your trash dumpster will
be of sufficient capacity to handle additional refuse that will
accumulate - muffler, brakes, etc.
Mr. Armour: . You will note on the Plan that we have increased the size of the
dumpster considerably.
Mr. Andrew: Yes, OK, I see that now. Are there any questions or comments from
the Commission for Mr. Armour?
Mr. Zimmer: You feel that the chain fence along the side lot line is adequate?
Mr. Armour: Nobody will run through that fence with a car. There certainly will
be a lot of damage if they do.
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r Mr. Zimmer: Maybe some concrete 4 x 8 posts would do the job?
Mr. Armour: That certainly would not look as good. I feel the fence will
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provide adequate separation between this facility and the people
in the east.
Mr. Andrew: Any more comments or questions?
,Mr. Morrow: In looking at this plan, I see some existing passageways between the
' two sites, I am referring to -the business on the east. Or is that
• • completely blocked off?
Mr. Armour: There is proposed a 6' area of asphalt plus curbing running the
entire depth of the property. But there is no break between the
two .sites now.
Mr. Morrow: No interchange at all.
Mr. Armour: There shouldn't be with' the new curb installation.
Mr. Andrew: Any more comments or questions from the Commission? Is there anyone
in the audience wishing to speak either for or against this petition?
There was no one present wishing to speak on this matter and Mr. Andrew declared the
Public Hearing on Petition 78-6-2-16 closed.
ILOn'a motion duly made by Mrs. Scurto, seconded by Mrs. Wisler, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#7-143-78 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on July 18,
1978 on Petition 78-6-2-16 by Fred Armour requesting waiver use approval
to construct two car bays and a storage addition to an existing building
located on the south side of Plymouth Road between Middlebelt Road and
Milburn in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 35, the City Planning Commission
does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 78-6-2-16 be
approved, subject to the following conditions:
(1) that Site and Landscape Plan #78D-509, revised date 7/14/78,
. prepared by Affiliated Engineers, Inc. , which is hereby approved
shall be adhered to, and that all landscape materials as shown on the •
• approved Site Plan shall be installed prior to issuance of a Certificate
of Occupancy and thereafter permanently maintained in a healthy
condition;
(2) that Building Elevation Plan #78D-509, dated 5/22/78, prepared by
Affiliated' Engineers, Inc. , which is hereby approved, shall be
adhered to; and
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• (3) that any future signage proposed to be located on the site shall be
approved by the City Planning Commission
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(1) The site has sufficient capacity to accommodate the proposed building
expansion of use and added parking area.
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(2) The expansion will not adversely affect the surrounding area by
way of this minor addition in the way of traffic, hours of operation
or changes in operation.
(3) This proposed expansion proposes a substantial upgrading of the site in
the way of major landscaping and additional paved parking areas.
(4) The proposal complies 3_n every respect to the special and general
standards of the Zoning Ordinance.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above Public Hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, the petitioner, and City Departments
as listed in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Andrew declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Falk announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 78-6-2-17 by Seymour J.
Levine Architects, Inc. , requesting waiver use approval to construct a
retail commercial development on the southwest corner of Five Mile and
Middlebelt Roads in the North 1/3 of Section 23.
Mr. Andrew: Mr: Nagy, any correspondence in the file regarding this petition?
Mr. Nagy: Yes, we have a. letter from our Engineering Division, dated June 23, . 1978,
indicating legal description meets with their approval. Also, a
letter dated June 27, 1978 from the Wayne County Road Commission
outlining certain improvements in roads adjacent to this development,
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. signed by Wm. L. Lagosh.
Mr, Andrew: Mr. Nagy, as I understand it, Wayne County Road Commission is
requesting that the left turn lane south of Five Mile Road on
Middlebelt be extended. Is that correct?
Mr. Nagy: Yes, that is right.
Mr. Andrew: And they are also requesting a deceleration lane in that same area,
which would mean two more lanes of pavement. What about the right-of-
way needed?
Mr. Nagy: Petitioner has indicated that he will dedicate his right-of-way in
order to make Middlebelt Road 60' in width. But they have also '
taken the position of hiring another traffic consultant in order
to evaluate those concerns raised by the Wayne County Road Commission.
This trafic consultant has come up with a counter proposal, and this
counter proposal has been presented to Wayne County for their review. '
The architect, who is here tonight, feels reasonably certain that they
will accept the alternative.
Mr. Andrew: Yes, Mr. Levine, will you please. approach the mike? And just briefly
explain to this Commission what alternative your traffic consultant
has proposed relative to Middlebelt Road as opposed to those suggestions
from Wayne County Road Commission?
Seymour Levine: My client has indicated that he will dedicate that right-of-way
23777 Green- adjacent to his property. Our traffic consultant has proposed to
4 field provide a deceleration lane on the west side of Middlebelt, as, well
Southfield as widening a strip of land on the east side of Middlebelt which would
provide room for a turning lane into the shopping center. We have
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presented these plans to the Wayne County Road Commission and they
seem to be in agreement. They are waiting for our actual drawings
to review. Therefore, we would ask that this be held in abeyance
until such time as theyare ready to make a decision.
Mr. Andrew: What are the recommendations of your traffic consultant as relates
to the most southerly driveway off of Middlebelt, perhaps to handle
truck traffic? -
Mr. kevine: There will be a 25' wide driveway with a 30' radius on the north and
20' on the south, as well as a 50' long strip that would flow into
the acceleration lanes.
Mr. Andrew: Would this be in line with Elsie?
Mr. Levine.: Almost exactly in line with Elsie Avenue. We would eliminate
left, turns into Elsie,, and the City Engineering office has indicated
that this would be acceptable because Elsie now handles very little
traffic.
Mr. Andrew: Are there any comments or questions of Mr. Levine from the Commission?
Mrs. Wisler: There has been discussion regarding another lane of traffic on the
east side of Middlebelt. Is there enough property there to add
another lane?
Mr. Andrew: Yes.
Mr. Zimmer: So in other words, the current curb on the east side gets moved
eastward. Is that the plan?
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Mr. Levine: Yes. In combination with additional width on the west side we hope
4 to widen whole thing. We need sufficient width to provide for the
left turn lane.
Mr.. Andrew: Any other comments from the Commission?
Mr. Kluver: I am just wondering if we couldn't have some more details on the
parking lot lights.
Mr. Levine: Yes, I have, sketches here that show the type of lighting proposed.
Mr. Andrew: Mr. Nagy, do we have Site Plans on this petition?
-Mr. Nagy: Yes, we have revised Site Plans. As well as Building Elevation plans.
Mr. Kluver: Well, I am just wondering whether it is in the best interests to go
through these details of the parking lot lights at a public hearing.
They should be studied in depth at some other meeting so that all
details can be resolved. Perhaps we should reschedule thispetition to
some other time for study purposes.
Mrs. Scurto: I am in support of Mr. Kluver's suggestion, because I still have some
questions regarding the site, the traffic, etc. I wouldcbfinitely
recommend a tabling motion.
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Mr. Levine: I would like to comment that this new site plan is essentially the
same as the one submitted some time .ago with some revisions as
recommended by your City Planners with all the improvements they
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suggested.
Mr. Kluver: Maybe those residents concerned could attend the Study Meeting.
Mr. Andrew: Would those residents interested in this petition indicate by a show
4 of hands the number involved? Would it be possible for you to attend
a study meeting of the Commission on August 1, 1978 down at the Engi-
neering Building?
Mrs. Wisler: There are two things about this that bother me - and the first is
that this is a waiver use request because of the size of the grocery
store - right? Appooval of Site Plans is usually a condition of waiver
use approval. Also, I am concerned about the architecture, the facia
on the adjacent stores. And what about the rear of the buildings, those
at the south end. Perhaps there should be a mansard type roof treatment
here the same as the north side has. People coming north on Middlebelt
will be seeing this side and I feel it should be dressed up the
same. There certainly will be as many people travelling north as
travelling south.
Mr., Levine: At the recommendation of the Planning Department, we have indicated
extension of the mansard roof and brick on the south side for a
distance of 60 to 70 feet.
Mrs. Wisler: Yes, I ,can see that, but I really feel that that is not enough.
Mr. Levine: In time, there will be commercial buidings on the C-2 property to
the south. Those buildings willscreen our buildings. That was
our rationale in not putting in the mansard roof and brick at this
time.
Mrs. Wisler: Have you ever taken a good look at that commercial development at
Five Mile and Merriman - the way that Pier 1 and Radio Shack are
constructed? I feel that is a very unsightly piece of development.
I definitely would like to see this mansard roof extended further,
but I really can't say how much further.
Mrs. Scurto: I tend to agree with Mrs. Wisler about the appearance of this south
side. What: about that development at Five Mile and Newburgh -
what is on the back wall of that one, brick or split rock?
Mr. Nagy: I know there is split rock on the front and sides, but I am not too
sure about the back wall.
Mr. Shane: I think the back wall is painted a very dark color. But there also
is a brick wall that divides this complex from the church property
behind it.
Mr. Zimmer: I too am in agreement with Mrs. Wisler's comments about the appearance
on the south side of this development. Sure, there is a good chance
that something more will go in there sometime in the future, and I
a also know, Mr. Levine, that it will probably be beyond your juris-
t diction, but I feel very strong that a good looking development_along
4 Middlebelt Road in this town is very important.
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Mr. Kluwer:i .
I too share much of the thoughts of the other Commissioners regarding
this particular development. But I also feel a more in-depth analysis
should ,be made.,
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44 Mr. Andrew: Any more comments or questions from the Commission? Is there anyone
in the audience wishing to speak either for or against this petition? •
Mary McDonald: I live directly across from this property, and everything you say is
2961Q Hoy fine and dandy, but when do you start considering how it looks to the
' people who live in the area? Seems like all you are worried about is
how it looks to those people driving up and down Middlebelt?
Mr. Falk: That is why we have asked1,you people to come to the Study Meeting.
• We definitely are interested in all the input of the residents.
Mrs. McDonald: We are fighting for.a mere 40 feet. We would like to see it left in
the rough. We don't want to have to look at a brick wall. Some of
those trees in there are twenty-thirty years old. Really, I almost
would just as soon have weeds than a brick wall.
Mr. Andrew: Mr. Levin, just what are your plans regarding the landscaping along
Beatrice Avenue, do you plan on natural growth or what?
`Mr. Levine: We have no intention of knocking down trees that are 20 years old.
We do not have a Landscape Plan at this time. We were waiting until
got the main area's site plan approved.. I suppose we could work
with what is there now. We do plan to enhance the area. We will
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do everything we can to satisfy the residents as far as landscaping
is concerned.
Sylvia Braithwaite: If we have to have this thing what about the merchants who have
29263 Hoy been in this area right along, what about the. man who owns the hardware
across the street, and the lady who just bought the pharmacy? Sure,
we don't have a supermarket, but we don't need one. There are enough
close by. Mr. Loeffler has had his hardware for the last twenty
years and now we understand there is going to be an ACE Hardware in
this shopping center. These little business people just can't fight
back. This used to be a beautiful City, but it sure isn't any more
with all the supermarkets and gas stations.
Mr. Andrew: Sylvia, as one Commissioner I truly feel that if we can't allow people
the right to compete, then we are really in trouble.
Mrs. Wisler: Would it be possible to have some indication as to the signage on
these buildings? •
Mr. Levine: I have noted on the Site Plan that the signage will be a maximum of
2 square feet of signage per front feet of store.
Mrs. Scurto: I certainly hope the roof-mounted ventilating units will be more
attractive than those that appear on that shopping center on Seven
Mile Road before you hit the railroad tracks in Northville.
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Mrs. McDonald: I wonder if you people are aware of the traffic problems in this
area. With Michigan Bell and McDonald's not too far from this
corner, there is an awful lot of traffic. We fought the paving
on our street, but that didn't seem to do any good. There are
too many accidents because there are too many people travelling
in this area. Since they paved Beatrice, you wouldn't believe the
.traffic we get down there.
Mrs. Scurto: ' ' Isn't there a "NO THRU TRAFFIC" sign at Beatrice?
Mrs. McDonald: I really don't know for sure. But we even have school busses going
down Beatrice with no kids in them. Garbage trucks that don't pick
up in our neighborhood go through there. They avoid making a left
turn at the corner. Just too much traffic.
Mr. Levine: In answer to Mrs. Scurto's comment,. all our heating and air
conditioning units mounted on the roof will be screened.
Mr. Andrew: Is there anyone else wishing to speak on this petition?
' There wasno one else present wishing to be heard on this matter and Mr. Andrew
declared the public hearing on Petition 78-6-2-17 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Kluver, seconded by Mrs. Friedrichs and unanimously
adopted, it was
I: #6-14.4-78 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on July 18,
1978 on Petition 78-6-2-17 as submitted by Seymour J. Levine Architects,
Inc. , requesting waiver use approval to construct a retail commercial
development at the southwest corner of Five Mile Road and Middlebelt Road
in the North 1/2 of Section 23, the City Planning Commission does hereby
determine to table Petition. 78-6-2-17 until the Study Meeting scheduled to
be held on August 1, 1978. ;
Mr. Andrew declared the above motion carried and ,the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Falk announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 78-6-3-6 by Dr. Michael
Nicola requesting to vacate a portion of Outlot C in Stark Gardens
Subdivision located north of Schoolcraft Service Drive between Riverside
and Ellen Drives in the Southwest 1/4' of Section 21.
After a lengthy discussion regarding the validity of the submission of this particular
petition, Mr. Andrew declared the Petition 78-6-3-6 removed from the agenda.
Mr. Falk announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 78-6-7-4 by the City
Planning Commission to amend Part V of the Master Plan of the City of
Livonia, the Master School and Park Plan, by deleting property located
south of Margareta Drive between Newburgh Road and the I-275 Freeway
.in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 7.
Mr. Andrew: Mr. Nagy, any correspondence in the file regarding this petition?
Mr. Nagy: No correspondence. . •
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Mr. Andrew: This is a petition initiated by the Planning Commission in order
to amend the Master School and Park Plan of the City. Is there
anyone in the audience wishing to speak either for or against
this petition?
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tHenry Lemieux: I would like to ask this Planning Commission and Department
18839 Blue Skies just what the reasons are for deleting this park site?
Mr. Andrew: Well, No. 1, there has been a Purchase Agreement made between
the present owner, the Livonia Board of Education and a prospective
buyer. Second, this open space is an encumbrance upon the title.
I am not certain who the title company is. No. 3, if I were the
4 purchaser, I would want this particular area removed from the Park
Plan of the City. No. 4, Livonia Parks & Recreation .Commission has
indicated that they do not have enough funds to acquire this property.
` They also feel this should be removed from the Master Schooland Park
Plan of the City. Because of all these things, we are here to take
action to eliminate this particular parcel.
Mr. Lemieux: Are you aware of the fact that this Section 7 has noopen space
designated as such in the entire section? And whether or not the
City has enough money to purchase it- is, irrelevant. This particular
parcel of land is the only one left in the whole section. What
about the children who live in Melody Manor Subdivision? In order
for them to get to a park, they would have to walk a mile and a half
down Seven Mile Road to get to Bicentennial Park, but you are telling
us that this is what they can do or go without a ,park. '
Mr. Andrew: Surely, Henry, you are aware that should the prospective purchaser
acquire this entire 17 or more acres, he has indicated that he will
convey a little more then three acres of land on the west to the
City for park purposes:
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Dan Cotterman: I have checked over Mr. Lewiston's plot and upon investigating the
37712 Dardan- . 3.3 acres of park land he has proposed, I find that there is a
ella sound barrier in that portion right now. The presently existing
sound barrier takes in one-half of the park. There is only 120 feet
between the back of the lot lines to the beginning of the sound
barrier. Maybe he thinks it is OK for the kids to play on the freeway.
Mr. Andrew: You are saying that half of the three acres is sound barrier?
Mr. Gotterman: Certainly, there is only 120 feet left for the kids to play.
That is not enough.
Mr. Andrew: Thank you. I appreciate these comments.
Mr. Zimmer: . Is there a fence there?
Mr. Gotterman: Just past the sound barrier.
Mr. Lemieux: Part of the site is freeway right-of-way. The most westerly part.
The sound barrier encroaches on the park site.
Mr. Andrew: How did you determine this?
Mr. Lemieux: We started from a point on Nola and measured. I feel we are
accurate within 4 or 5 feet.
Mr. Andrew: Is there anyone else wishing to speak on this matter?
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Cecil Harris: Yes, I live in the Woods Condominiums to the south of this property,
18238 University and I have two major concerns. No. I, we are wondering about the
Park Drive water running off'on the north side of our property. On the south
side of this property in question there is a ditch and we are wonder
ing what the developer -is planning to do about making sure exactly
where any water will go. Is he going to make another ditch or
what? No. 2, as far as snow removal in the wintertime, all the
snow is pushed to the north. How does the developer feel about
that he's not here tonight, and we want to make sure that all the
snow is placed somewhere so we can get in and out of our property.
Mr. Andrew: Mr. Harris, all these problems will be worked out between our
Engineering Division and the developer. You can be sure Engineering
will come up with suitable solutions. ,
Mr. Andrew: Anyone else?
Neil Sutton: I just want to say that I feel this is totally unacceptable. What
is left is just a narrow strip of park land, too narrow for any
kind of recreation for the kidslike a baseball diamond. Let's
face it, balls will certainly be flying into peoples' back yards.
I am not satisfied with this arrangement.
Mrs. Friedrichs: It appears to me that we really have very little choice in the
matter if Parks &Recreations has no intention of buying the land.
We certainly have no authority to do anything about it if they have
no intention to purchase it. If it isn'-t going to be purchased, it
certainly shouldn't be designated as such.
4 Mr. Andrew: If I ,remember correctly in going back into history a little bit,
back in 1972 when this particular piece of property was first
'considered to be put on the Master School and Park Plan, this
Commission decided at that time that it would be so designated for
two specific reasons: No. 1, we wanted to preserve the woods as
. they existed on the property at that tithe, and No. 2, we wanted to
impede further residential development. Now, here we are in 1978,
considering to remove this property from the Master School and Park
Plan when we ,know that someone is attempting to develop it residentiall}
• As One Commissioner I find it quite difficult to turn around and take tt
off the original plan. I just don't know. Sometimes history is real
interesting. '
, There was no -one else wishing to speak on this matter and Mr. Andrew declared the
Public Hearing on Petition 78-6-7-4 closed. .
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On a motion duly made by Mrs. Scurto, seconded by Mr. Morrow, it was
4 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
July 18, 1978 on Petition 78-6-7-4 as submitted by the City Planning
Commission pursuant to Act 285 of the Public Acts of Michigan, 1931,
as amended, to amend Part V of the Master Plan of the City of Livonia,
4,• the Master School and Park Plan, by deleting property located south of
. Margareta Drive between Newburgh Road and the I-175 Freeway in the
Northeast 1/4 of Section 7, the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition 78-6-7-4 be approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Zimmer, Scurto, Falk, Morrow
NAYS: Kluver, Andrew
ABSTAIN: Friedrichs, Wisler
Mr. Andrew, Chairma, declared the resoltuion fails for lack of support inasmuch
as a 2/3 affirmative vote is required in order to amend the Master Plan.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Kluver, seconded by Mrs. Scurto, it was
#7-145-78 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public' Hearing having been held on July 18, '
1978 on Petition 78-6-7-4 as submitted by the City Planning Commission
pursuant to Act 285 of the Public Acts of Michigan, 1931, as amended, to
1 amend Part V of the Master Plan of the City of Livonia, the Master School
and Park Plan, by deleteing property located south of Margareta Drive
between Newburgh Road and the 1-175 Freeway in the Northeast 1/4 of
Section 7, the City Planning Commission does hereby determine to table
petition 78-6-7-4.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Kluver, Friedrichs, Scurto, Morrow, Andrew
. NAYS: Zimmer, Falk
ABSTAIN: Wisler
ABSENT: Smith
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IL Mr. Falk announced the next item on the agenda is a rehearing of Petition 77-3-6-4,
omnmntOieoddancae,eiiong 2to thade8nOorf dloatnd 5t3o,ltoht
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Mr. .0ndrew: This is a petition initiated by the Planning Commission to amend
language contained in the Zoning Ordinance. Is there anyone in the
audience wishing to speak either for or against this petition?
There was no one present wishing to speak on this matter and Mr. Andrew declared the
Public Hearing on Petition 77-3-6-4 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Zimmer, seconded by Mr. Morrow, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#7-146-78 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on July 18,
1978 on Petition 77-3-6-4, as amended, to amend Sections 2.06 and 18.08
of Ordinance #543, the Zoning Ordinance, pertaining to the definition of
lots and to lot limitation, the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition 77-3-6-4 be approved for the
following reason:
(1) This amendment is necessary in order to establish more definitive
regulations regarding the use of lots and areas.
IL FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above Public Hearing was published
in the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer, under date.of 6/29/78,
and that notices of such hearing were sent to the Detroit Edison Company,
Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company,
'Consumers Power Company, and City Departments as listed in the Proof of
Service.
Mr. Andrew declared the'above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Falk announced the nest item on the agenda is the renaming pursuant to Council
Resolution #529-78 of Huff Street located in the Blue Grass Estates
Subdivision located on the west side of Newburgh Road between Five and
Six Mile Roads in Section. 18, to Shannon Drive.
Mr. Andrew: Mr. Nagy, any. correspondence in the file regarding this petition?
Mr. Nagy: Yes, we have a letter from the Department of Public Safety, Police
Division, advising no objection to this proposed change in a street
name and a letter from the Department of Public Safety, Division
of Fire checting to the street name change.
Mr. Andrew: This is a petition pursuant to Council Resolution to change the name '
of Huff Street to Shannon Drive in a new subdivision located between
Five and Six Mile Roads. Is there anyone in the audience wishing
to speak either for or against this subject?
Richard Fischer: Yes, I have several questions to ask of this Planning Commission
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regarding this request for a change in the name of Huff to Shannon.
I understand this is pursuant to Council Resolution #529-78. Which
members of the Council proposed this change?
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Mr. Nagy,: - The resolution was initiated by Mr. Nash, seconded by Mr. Bennet, and
linanimonF:lv trinptF'rl.
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Mr. Fischer: When did this change take place and why?
Mr. Nagy: Request was made at Council Meeting of June 7, 1978 and the Council
d gave no particular reasons for this proposed change in the street
name.
Mr. Fischer: Is there any reason why this change wasn't proposed when the land
N,_ was being developed? This is the only section in the whole city
' where this particular street's name will be changed. The reason
for this request wasn't made because it just so happens that one
the council members has purchased property on this street, is it.
Mr. Andrew: Mr. Fischer, that is an unfair question.
Mr. Fischer: My next question is whether or not those other people who have
purchase agreements to property on this street were notified
• of this meeting?
Mr. Nagy: Yes, we contacted the builder and he has furnished us with the
names and addresses of the other lot owners, and we did notify
them of this meeting.
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Mr. Fischer: There are only seven homes presently occupied.
Mr. Andrew: According to our records, letters were sent to twenty-one lot
owners' on the east and west side of Huff.
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Mr. Fischer: I would like to go on record as being against this name change for
many reasons, among them being mail service, legal description of
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p p y, personal records, etc.
Mr. Andrew: Mr. Fischer, can youtell me how long it has been since you closed
on your property?
Mr. Fischer: 37 days.
Mr. Andrew: Anyone else?
Lee Giaccaglia: I too am opposed to this change. My last name, as you know, is
16220 Huff hard enough to spell, and I would like to live on a street with
only four letters that is easy to spell.
Mr. Andrew: Which lot is yours?
Mr. Giaccaglia: Lot #102, eight houses going north on the east side.
Janice Ploch: We live on the third lot from the south on the east side, and we
15987 Huff used to live on the same street a little further south of this at
14555 Huff.. We have had difficulty with the spelling of Huff; and
since the spelling of my last name is easy enough I would be agreeable
to this name change.
IL John Gipper: I am in agreement with Mr. Ficher. I like it the way it is now.
16278 Huff We have been there since May 25th, and I really wouldn't want to go
through getting my records changed, like driver's license, charge
cards, etc.
Mr. Falk: Mr. Nagy, was there any response to those 21 letters?
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Mr. Nagy:. .No response at all.
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Mr. Falk: So there are only four out of twenty-one here tonight.
Mrs. Fischer: If it is up to the Council to make final decision, why not postpone
this until the majority of the people occupy their homes. It just
might have been inconvenient for them to attend tonight's meeting
if they had to come some distance.
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Mr. Andrew: Council directed us to conduct a Public Hering on this, and this
will be the only Public Hearing on this particular item. Minutes
of this meeting and our recommendation will be forwarded to the City
Council.
Mr. Nagy: You can be sure that verbatim minutes will be directed to City
Council. They will certainly be made aware of your feelings.
Mr. Andrew: If you are truly concerned about this, I would suggest that you
contact the Council's secretary as soon as possible, and request
that you be notified of exactly when this item will be on the
Council's agenda. They are not legally required to notify you
but I am sure if you let them know you are interested, they will
tell you the date of their discussion.
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There was no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Andrew declared the Public
Hearing on renaming of Huff Street closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Morrow, seconded by Mrs. Friedrichs, and unanimously
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#7-147-78. RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on July 18,
1978 on the renaming - pursuant to Council Resolution #529-78, of Huff
Street, located in the Blue Grass Estates Subdivision located on the
west side of Newburgh Road between Five and Six Mile Roads in Section 18,
to Shannon Drive, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to
City Council that this renaming of Huff Street be denied for the following
reasons:
(I) Owners of property adjacent to Huff Street object to the proposed
street name change.
(2) This proposed street name change _is not in the best interests of the
existing and future residents of the Blue Grass Estates Subdivision
as the name Huff Street is a well established street name within the
same area and adjoining subdivisions.
(3) The Fire Division of the Department of Public Safety objects to the
proposed street name change.
Mr. Andrew declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. .Wisler and seconded by Mrs. Scurto, it was
#7-148-78 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a letter dated June 14, 1978 from Rodney C.
Kropf, Attorney, requesting an extension of time with regard to Condition
#5 in connection with approval of Petition 71-5-2-18 by Rodney C. Kropf
Attorney for Sam & Joy Moy, requesting waiver use approval to expand the
existing restaurant located on the west side of Middlebelt Road between
Munger and Six Mile Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 14, the City
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Planning Commission ,does hereby recommend to the City Council that the
request for extension of time be denied for the following reasons: '
(1) To allow the 'continuance of the residential structure on commercially
zoned property is in conflict with Zoning Ordinance #543, Section
18.08, Lot Limitation.
(2)• The Planning Commission has allowed the residential structure to
remain on the property for the past seven years which is the time
• span between the date of waiver use approval and this request for
an extension, and feels that seven years' time is more than reasonable
to have both the benefit of the use of the residential structure and
to have made alternate plans to relocate the residential uses as same
may have applied to the subject property.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following;.
AYES: Kluver, Zimmer, Scurto, Falk, Morrow, Wisler, Andrew
NAYS: Friedrichs
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Smith ,
Mr. Andrew declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Morrow, seconded by-Mrs. Scurto, and unanimously adopted,
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#7-149-78 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a letter from Robert A. Roberts for Church of
the Holy Spirit requesting an extension of approval of Petition 75-12-2-31
requesting waiver use approval to erect a Church and parish house on the
west side of Newburgh Road, north of Joy Road, in the Southeast 1/4 of
Section 31, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the
City Council that an extension be granted for one year subject to all the
conditions as were attached to the previous approving Resolution #2-10-76,
adopted on February 3, 1978.
Mr. Andrew. declared the above motion carried and the' foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Kluver, seconded by Mr. Falk, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#7-150-78 RESOLVED that, the .City Planning Commission having given consideration
to the revisions pursuant to Council Resolution #479-78 to Petition
77-8-6-8 by the City Planning Commission to amend Section 18.24, Accessory
Buildings, of Ordinance #543, the Zoning Ordinance, to provide controls
on heights of detached garages and accessory buildings, does hereby
determine that the substitution of words and phrases as recommended by
the City Council and the City Planning Commission do not constitute an
alteration of the content or intent of the amendment as originally pro-
posed and reaffirms its recommendation set forth in Resolution #9-194-77,
adopted on September 20, 1977, to approve Petition 77-8-6-8; and further
that such revisions are of a minor nature and a new public hearing on
Petition 77-8-6-8 is not necessary.
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Mr. Andrew declared the motion carried and the foregoing resolution_ adopted.
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On a motion duly made by Mrs. Scurto, seconded by Mr. Zimmer, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#7-151-78 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on May 9,
1978 on Petition 78-3-1-16 as submitted by Walter & Anne Zielinski and
George & Helen Constantine to rezone property located on the northeast
corner of Seven Mile and Gill Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 4,
from RUF to P.S. , the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to
t the City Council that Petition 78-3-1-16 be denied, for the following
redsons:
(1) The proposed change of zoning is in conflict with the Future
Land Use Plan of the City of Livonia as adopted by the City Planning
Commission.
(2) The proposed change of zoning would be detrimental to and not in
harmony with the surrounding residential uses of the area.
(3) The proposed change of zoning is spot zoning in that there is no
similar or adjoining professional or office uses in the area as
the established zoning on all sides of the area under petition is
single family residential and all adjoining lands are used for
residential purposes.
(4) The proposed change of zoning would not promote the orderly growth
and development of the area in accordance with the Future Land Use
Plan as the proposed change of zoning would tend to encourage the
conversion of other lands in the area to non-residential purposes
which would be detrimentalto the developed or developing residential
neighborhoods of the area.
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(5) The proposed change of zoning would be hazardous to the area from a
traffic standpoint as adjoining roads of Gill Road and Seven Mile
Road are already overburdened • with traffic, and in their present
state are incapable to handling any increase in traffic as would be
generated by this proposed rezoning and related office development.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above Public Hearing was published
in the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer, under date of 4/20/78,
and that notices of such hearing were sent to the Detroit Edison Company,
Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company,
Consumers Power Company, and City Departments as listed in the Proof of
Service.
Mr. Andrew declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Scurto, seconded by Mr. Zimmer, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#7-152-78 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve the Final
Plat for the Windridge Village Subdivision #2 proposed to be located on the
north side of Seven Mile Road, west of Farmington Road, in the Southeast
1/4 of Section 4, for the following reasons:
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(1) The Final Plat conforms to the previously approved Preliminary Plat.
(2) The Engineering Division of the City of Livonia recommends approval
of the Final. Plat.
(3) All of the financial obligations imposed upon the proprietor by the
City have been complied with.
Mr. Andrew declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Zimmer, seconded by Mr. Morrow, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#7-153-78 RESOLVED that, pursuant to the provisions of Act 285 of the Public Acts of
Michigan, 1931, as amended, the City Planning Commission does hereby
establish and order that a public hearing be held in the City Hall of
the City of Livonia, to determine whether or not to amend Section 4.04
Schedule of Minimum Lot Sizes in R-1 through R-5 Districts, of the Zoning
Ordinance, #543, to increase the depth and/or width of lots abutting
major thoroughfares.
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of time and place of said public hearing shall
be published in a newspaper of general circulation in the City of Livonia,
and a notice by registered United States mail shall. be sent to each public
utility or railroad company owning or operating any public utility or rail-
road within the City of Livonia, in accordance with the provisions of
Act 285 of the Public Acts of Michigan of 1931, as amended.
Mr. Andrew declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
. On a motion duly made by Mrs. Scurto, seconded by Mr. Zimmer, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#7-154-78 RESOLVED that, pursuant to the provisions of Act 285 of the Public Acts
of Michigan, '1931, as amended, the City Planning Commission does hereby
establish and order that a public hearing be held in the City of Livonia
to determine whether or not to amend Section 5.03, Waiver Uses of Zoning
Ordinance #543, by adding paragraph (f) to provide controls for the
establishment of homes for the retarded in RUF Zoning Districts.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, a notice of time and place of said hearing shall
be published in a newspaper of general circulation in the City of Livonia,
and a notice by registered United States mail shall be sent to each public
utility or railroad company owning or operating any public uitility or rail-
road company owning oroperating any public utility or railroad within the
City of Livonia, in accordnance with the provisions of Act 285 of the Public
Acts of Michigan of 1931, as amended.
Mr. Andrew declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion' duly made by. Mr. Kluver, seconded by Mrs. Scurto, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#7-155-78 RESOLVED that, the Planning Department Budget proposed for the Fiscal
Year 1978-1979 is approved.
Mr. Andrew declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Zimmer and seconded by Mrs. Wisler, it was
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held by the City Planning Commission on June 6, 1978 are approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Friedrichs, Zimmer, Falk, Morrow, Wisler, Andrew
. NAYS: None .
. ABSTAIN: Kluver, Scurto
ABSENT: Smith
Mr. Andrew declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Kluver, seconded by Mrs. Wisler, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#7-157-78 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Section 18.58 of Ordinance #543, the Zoning
Ordinance of the City of Livonia, as amended by Ordinance #1306, the
City Planning Commission does hereby approve Petition 78-6-8-19P by
William N. Ponder requesting approval of all plans required by Section
18.58 submitted in connection with a proposal to construct an addition
' • to an existing building located on the north side of Plymouth Road
between Hubbard Road and Mayfield in Section 27, subject to the following
conditions:
(1) that Site Plan #43-375, prepared by John E. Wisniewski, which is
hereby approved, shall be adhered to;
(2) that building elevations as shown on Plan #43-375, Sheet 2, which
.are hereby approved, shall be adhered to;
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(3) that the landscaping as shown on 'the approved Site Plan, which
is hereby approved, shall be installed on the Site before issuance
of a Certificate of Occupancy for the addition.
Mr. Andrew declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
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On a motion duly made by Mr. Morrow, seconded by Mrs. Scurto, and unanimously adopted,
it was
#7-158-78 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Section 18.47 of Ordinance #543, the Zoning
Ordinance of the City of Livonia, as amended by Ordinance #990, the
City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that
Petition 78-7-8-22 by Fred J. ArmOur requesting approval of. all plans
required by Section 18.47, submitted in connection with a proposalk. to
construct a medical clinic on the west side of Farmington Road between
Eight Mile Road and Haldane in Section 4, subject to the following conditions:
(1) that Site Plan 78D-510, dated 7/1/78, prepared by Affiliated Engineers,
Inc. , which is hereby approved, shall be adhered to;
(2) that building elevations as shown on Plan 78D-510, Sheet 3, dated
-7/12/78, which are hereby approved, shall be adhered to; and
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(3) that Landscape Plan 78D-310, Sheet la, dated 7/1/78, prepared by
Affiliated Engineers, Inc. , which is hereby approved, "shall be
adhered to and all landscape materials as shown on the approved
landscape plan shall be installed on the site before building
occupancy and thereafter maintained in a healthy condition.
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Mr. Andrew declared the above motion carried and the foregoing resolution adopted.
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On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 357th Regular Meeting
and Public Hearings held by the City Planning Commission on July 18, 1978 were
adjourned at 11:00 p.m.
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ATTEST:
Daniel R. Andrew, Chairman
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