HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1989-11-28 10929
MINUTES OF THE 363RD SPECIAL MEETING HELD BY
THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, November 28, 1989, the City Planning Commission of the City of
Livonia held its 363rd Special Meeting in the Livonia City Hall, 33000 Civic
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Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. William LaPine, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. , with
approximately 10 interested persons in the audience.
Members present: William LaPine Jack Engebretson Raymond W. Tent
Brenda Lee Fandrei James C. McCann Donald Vyhnalek
R. Lee Morrow
Messrs. John J. Nagy, Planning Director, H. G. Shane, Assistant Planning
Director, and Ralph H. Bakewell, Planner IV, were also present.
Mr. LaPine informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda involves
a rezoning request, this Commission only makes a recommendation to the City
Council who in turn will hold its own public hearing and decide the question.
If a petition involves a waiver of use request and the request is denied, the
petitioner has ten days in which to appeal the decision to the City Council;
otherwise the petition is terminated. The Planning Commission holds the only
public hearing on a preliminary plat and/or a vacating petition. Planning
Commission resolutions do not become effective until seven days after the
resolutions are adopted. The Planning Commission has reviewed the petitions
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upon their filing and have been furnished by the staff with approving and
denying resolutions. The Commission may use them or not use them depending upon
the outcome of the hearing tonight.
r► Mr. Tent, Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda is Petition
89-10-2-50 by Consumers Power Co. requesting waiver use
approval to construct a natural gas regulator station on
property located on the east side of Newburgh Road between
Plymouth and Amrhein Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section
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Mr. Bakewell presented a map showing the property under petition plus the
existing zoning of the surrounding area.
Mr. Nagy: We have received a letter from the Engineering Department
stating their office has no objections to this proposal from
an engineering standpoint. It's signed by Gary Clark, the
Assistant City Engineer. Another City Department,
Department of Public Safety, signed by Arnold Klinger, Fire
Marshal, indicates his office has reviewed the site plan for
the above referenced proposal to construct a natural gas
regulator station on property located on the east side of
Newburgh Road between Plymouth Road and Grantland and they
have no objection to this proposal. The last letter we have
is from the Inspection Department stating the Inspection
Department conducted a zoning review of the above referenced
petition and no deficiencies or problems were found. That
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letter is signed by William J. MacDonald, Supervisor of the
Ordinance Enforcement Division. That is the extent of our
correspondence.
Mr. LaPine: Are there any questions for Mr. Nagy? We will have a
presentation by a representative from Consumers Power.
My name is Robert A Young, Jr. I am with Consumers Power Land and Right of Way
Department. I was also responsible for submitting the waiver use application
for the gas regulator station on the east side of Newburgh. With me are some
other Consumers Power personnel. Specifically, Ed Bradley who is Director of
the Highway Department. He is responsible for site acquisition. Joe Taylor
from Engineering Department who will be responsible for the engineering and
construction of the facility. I will introduce Joe Taylor who can give you
further details on the project.
Mr. Taylor: I would like to start by explaining why we need the regulator
station facility and specifically why this particular area was
petitioned for the waiver use. (Mr. Taylor presented a map)
That is an overall map of our gas system in the Livonia area. I
will try to explain the lines and various colors. The light blue
lines are existing high pressure distribution lines that are in
the public right of way. The green lines which start over here
at the left side from our Northville compressor station in
Northville Township are what we call our main transmission pipe
lines serving this area. The red lines are part of the proposed
project. The red line that starts from a location on Sheldon
Road near M14 and goes easterly and southerly over Newburgh Road
is an existing pipeline that is presently operating as part of
our high pressure distribution system. What we are proposing to
do is to increase the capacity of that pipeline by retesting and
qualifying for operating at a higher pressure. The dotted red
line which is is shown running from the solid red southerly on
Newburgh Road is proposed new pipeline and then the red hexagon
at the end of the dotted line is the proposed new gas regulator
station. This improvement is needed for two reasons; first,
persistent capacity. We are at present at capacity for serving
gas customers. We will not be able to take any new major loads
without making this improvement. Secondly, we have a concern for
security, Presently, this area plus north Farmington Hills,
south to Westland is served from two points. This station shown
back at Sheldon Road and at the upper right hand corner is an
existing station at the intersection of 13 Mile and Middlebelt.
Those two stations feed Livonia and surrounding communities. So
by adding the proposed station, we are bringing another
transmission supply into the system which is very central
to our load and very central to Livonia. It will provide backup
if for any reason there would be an interuption in service.
Presently, if there is an interuption, for instance on Sheldon
Road during wintertime we could not keep Livonia supplied. The
station in the upper right hand corner does not have the capacity
and we would have a lot of unhappy customers. So for two
reasons; one, capacity to serve new loads and new customers, and
secondly, security for backup on the system in case there should
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be any interuption of service on the existing facilities. The
program proposed here shows the new station on the proposed lots
described earlier, lots 19 and 20 in Woodlands Village
Subdivision. To keep the cost reasonable on the project and for
maximum benefit, we need to locate the facility near the
intersection of Armhein and Newburgh. At this point this is the
best location for locating the station. If we move from this
intersection costs move up.
Mr. LaPine: Will this new station primarily serve the City of Livonia?
Mr. Taylor: Yes, it reinforces the system that goes north and south on
Newburgh and also further on Middlebelt. It will serve gas
southerly down to Westland and toward Farmington Hills. In
addition, looking four years down the road, we will be planning
stations on 13 Mile and between Haggerty and Halstead. As the
development grows in the Farmington Hills area, we will more
actively serve that. At this point what we propose is primarily
for Livonia and to the south.
Mr. LaPine: Your original proposal presented on Newburgh and Amrhein which we
approved, and ultimately denied by the Council, what is the
difference?
Mr. Taylor: The difference is approximately 1400 feet of 16" pipeline which
represents about $38,000. This is more expensive than proposed
previously. It is going to require more construction in the road
right of way and so more disturbance in traffic during
construction.
Mr. LaPine: This location is costing more money than the original plan?
Mr. Taylor: Correct.
Sue Sobolewski arrived at 7:40 p.m.
Mr. Morrow: I have one question. Other than the changes in the site, are
there any more changes as far as the original proposal?
Mr. Taylor: Yes, I would like to go over the landscape plan.
Mr. Morrow: I mean as far as your mechanical equipment and things you would
bring to the site.
Mr. Taylor: No, the equipment is the same. We made no changes in basic
design of the pipeline and the equipment that will be located at
the station.
Mr. Morrow: I guess where I'm coming from is that I don't want to go through
the whole thing again if you haven't changed it. So you are
saying that outside of landscaping, the equipment and building
will be pretty much the same.
Mr. Taylor: The building has changed. We increased the size of the building
so we can enclose all the above ground equipment.
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Mr. Vynalek: Mr. Chairman, would you help me out. I forgot the reason why the
council denied it.
Mr. LaPine: Mr. Nagy, do you know?
Mr. Nagy: I think Council felt that it was inappropriate for the
residential area to have the gas regulator on that side. They
felt there was a more appropriate location given the nature of
the surrounding industrial area.
Mr. Lapine: More appropriate on the east side rather than the west side.
Mr. Nagy: Exactly.
Mr. Engebretson: I was interested in that also. John, if I understood you
correctly, you said that the Council didn't feel we should take
two residential lots to build that facility, but here we are
dealing with two more residential lots. Why, in your estimation,
would the Council view this any differently? Not that I expect
you to anticipate what they are going to do, but based on the
sense of how they dealt with this matter, perhaps you can share
with us your opinion as to what the difference would be.
Mr. Nagy: I think this area of strip residential is really of questionable
viability over the long run. The nature of the surrounding uses
impact the site as the site backs up to industrial to the east,
industrial to the north, some distance to the south is office or
commercial and also the heavily travelled thoroughfare. Given
the nature of that, we think this might be a better location in
the long run than to try to maintain 3 or 4 houses that are
involved in thuis strip.
Mr. Engebretson: Is that the only objection that you remember?
Mr. Nagy: Yes, that I remember.
Mr. Engebretson: To go back to Mr. Taylor and his remarks that this was for the
primary benefit of Livonia and that it would also serve areas of
Westland and Farmington Hills. Did you say that, Sir?
Mr. Taylor: Yes, I did. Presently, the gas for existing system is coming
from the station at 13 Mile and Middlebelt, is Farmington Hills I
believe, and we don't have a station in Livonia and, yes, we are
proposing this station in Livonia to bring the gas in closer to
the load center. Also to give backup security to the system.
Mr. Engebretson: At the last Public Hearing it is my recollection that
reference was made to similar facilities at 5 Mile and Newburgh
and 7 Mile and Newburgh. Is this different that those
facilities?
Mr. Taylor: Yes, on Newburgh Road, which is shown here with this blue high
pressure pipeline at 7 Mile and Newburgh, that is the end of our
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high pressure distribution system. That station is where they
drop from high pressure to medium pressure which is 60 lbs. or
less which is the service that goes directly to homes and
industry. This is just showing the high pressure system. The
one at 5 Mile is just a little bit south near Plymouth and
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Newburgh, just south of the proposed one, there again it is
taking the high pressure distribution gas which is operating at
340 lbs. or less and cutting the high pressure down to 60 lbs. or
less. That is another class of the regulator station which is
within our distribution system.
Mr. Engebretson: Is the gas flowing north or south?
Mr. Taylor: At the point presently it's flowing both directions. Presently,
this red line is operating at 340 lbs. from Sheldon Road and the
gas goes southerly and northerly and also out these other
branches which are shown in blue going east, west and south from
that point. What we are proposing to do is raise the pressure of
that pipeline or add a station right in or above the system.
Mr. Engebretson: I would like to ask again a question that came up at the
Public Hearing. That is, are there limitations as to what your
options are on locations of this type of facility? Does it have
to be approximately in this vicinity, or could it be one or two
miles back to the west? Are there any alternatives?
Mr. Taylor: From an operating standpoint, we could probably move the facility
perhaps 2000' to a half mile from that intersection of Amrhein
and Newburgh, however, if we do that we have to construct new
pipeline because at that intersection is where the upgraded line
ends and where the existing distribution main is existing, so if
you move the station from that intersection, we are adding costs
of about $135 per foot of new 16" pipe line. Economically, we
want to stay close to that intersection. If we get over a half
mile away, then we get into capacity problems where we are adding
extra links to the pipeline which makes the pressure drop, so if
we move more than a half mile, we are not getting the capacity we
want. With the system as proposed, we are increasing the
capacity into Newburgh by 60%.
Mr. Engebretson: A considerable distance north and south.
Mr. Taylor: Well, it is all we anticipate in that immediate area. The next
improvement would be to add a station up at 13 Mile and Haggerty
Road.
Mr. Tent: This is a high pressure station, is that correct?
Mr. Taylor: Yes.
Mr. Tent: The one we are speaking about at 7 Mile and Haggerty is a low
pressure station?
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Mr. Taylor: Well, it's going from a high pressure system, which here is 340
lbs. down to 60 lbs. So yes it is a lower pressure distribution
station.
Mr. Tent: There is always the concern of the valving and pressure release
and so forth. What precautions have you taken to safeguard this
particular operation? This is a different station and you said
it is exactly the same. Have you taken any other precautions
here because of the high pressure nature of the operation. Can
you assure us that there is no danger there if anything happens?
Mr. Taylor: This is the same type of station proposed back in April. I think
it was mentioned that existing stations in the areas of 5 Mile
and 7 Mile, those are existing distribution stations. They are
somewhat different in that they do not have controls and remote
monitors that this particular station would have. As far as
safety and safeguards, valving and so forth, the station is
monitored 24 hours a day, 7 days a week from our gas control
center in Jackson. If there is any reason it should vary from
the control point, that condition is alarmed by computers and
people are called out from our local office to go to the site and
correct the problem.
Mr. Tent: I guess my question would be, being that this is a high pressure
station, do we have more sophisticated type of monitoring
equipment?
Mr. Taylor: It is considerably different from the distribution stations
referred to earlier. It doesn't have relief valves. The main
purpose is to reduce the pressure of the gas. There is a control
valve, there is a monitoring redundant control valve in a series
t- which is voice active and if for any reason the first valve
should fail, the monitoring valve would take over control and
maintain control at the station and also the supervisory system
would alarm and advise of the problem and how it was made for
maintenance purpose and to get the system back to a normal mode
of operation. There is redundant equipment in case there is a
failure of one piece of hardware, the other is activated and
takes over automatically and serves the need until the primary
equipment is repaired.
Mr. Tent: So we can be satisfied that all equipment can be accounted for in
case of failure?
Mr. Taylor: Yes, the design is basically governed by Michigan Safety Codes
and all our testing and maintenance work is reviewed on a set
schedule for their requirements.
Mr. Herman Kluver arrived at 7:45 p.m.
Mr. LaPine: Basically, the equipment at this location is exactly the same as
the original plan. One of the main differences is that
everything now will be covered where before there was going to be
some valves and things that were not covered. Is that correct?
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Mr. Taylor: Yes. Everything now will be housed except some extensions around
some valves which will be buried underground.
Mr. LaPine: But everything above ground is basically now covered.
Mr. Taylor: Housed, yes.
Mr. LaPine: Because that was one of the problems we had before. We were
always worried about if someone could get in there and fool
around with some valves.
Mr. Taylor: If there are no further questions, I will go ahead with the
landscape plan. This layout is a duplicate which was filed with
our application. Newburgh Road is here on your left. These are
the two lots, 19 and 20. We are proposing to have one building
which will house all the equipment except for high head
extensions on some buried valves which are placed in this stoned
area which are chained and padlocked so that there is no way they
can be tampered with. All the other equipment is housed in what
we call the regulator building which is split in two sections.
There will be a heater on one side which is used to preheat the
gas prior to making the pressure reduction. The second half is
used for housing regulators and the modulars for the regulators
which are used to reduce the gas pressure. The piping is
basically coming in across through the heater regulators and back
outside again and tied into the existing 12" main which is in the
City street. Landscaping-wise, which is shown with the cross
hatched lines are existing trees which will remain which are
along the back and side. The other trees and shrubs are new, a
mixture of evergreens and leaf trees. We will have some coverage
there during the winter months, as well as in the summer months.
The lawn will be seeded and mowed. The area immediately around
the building is landscaped and using some stone to make it easier
to trim around the shrubs and set the building off somewhat.
Also, the area where the valves are, that would be stoned also.
The driveway is 12' wide asphalt, paved driveway with a short
turnaround.
Mr. Tent: Is it a brick building?
Mr. Taylor: Yes.
Mr. Engebretson: The area that you said was stoned, is that area also planned
to be fenced?
Mr. Taylor: No. At this point we are not planning to fence anything on the
site. The fence that is shown here is an existing fence that is
behind a home on the north. The fence here is behind a home on
the south. We are set back a little more adjacent to the
backyards. We do not propose any fence at this point. That is a
change from what we proposed back in April. We had some
discussions with the Planning staff and the thinking was that
perhaps the overall site would look more acceptable to the
neighborhood if we didn't have a 6'chainlink fence. There was a
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concern perhaps that wouldn't make people alarmed that there was
something unsafe there. That's not what we are trying to show.
We have no need for the fence so it was removed on the proposed
plan.
Mr. Engebretson: I think that you are right that the fence projects an image
`'r' that there is potential danger, but without the fence, are any of
these valve devices exposed?
Mr. Taylor: Yes, there is an extension to the service similar to the buried
water valves so that you can turn the valve from the surface
without digging it up. Basically what these are, but they will
be padlocked in the operating position so they cannot be tampered
with or changed.
Mr. Engebretson: What if they were tampered with? What would happen?
Mr. Taylor: If the position were changed, this inlet and outlet valve, which
is the main valve which controls the gas going in and out, it is
going to take a few minutes for someone to turn the hand wheel.
As soon as there was a variation in pressure, it would be
measured here and sent back to Jackson. We would pick that up as
an alarm and investigate. There is nothing that would
catastrophically happen if they closed or opened any of these
valves. This valve just shuts off the gas going in and this
valve shuts off the gas going out, so the worse thing that could
happen is that the pressure is going to drop and we are going to
start losing customers. These other two valves are emergency
bypass, and they allow us to do maintenance in this facility and
to be taken out of service and allow us to go out here and
manually cut pressure by using these two valves and take it from
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the inlet to the outlet. There are two separate valves involved
there and it would take someone a lot of time to get both those
valves open where they are moving gas directly from the inlet to
the outlet station.
Mr. Engebretson: Would it be fair to summarize your statement by saying that
even if someone would tamper with these valves, you would (A)
know about it in minutes in Jackson and would dispatch someone to
the site, and (B) that even if that system failed, that there
would be no imminent danger to anyone in the area. Correct?
Mr. Taylor: Yes, that is correct.
Mr. Engebretson: Who is going to maintain this lawn and property?
Mr. Taylor: This will be maintained by our transmission operating office out
of Pontiac. The local Livonia office is responsible for the
distribution system. If there is an emergency or a need for
someone to be there immediately, we wouldn't hesitate to call
them, but the normal ongoing maintenance of the facility, fixing
of the equipment, mowing, would be done by our operating people
in Pontiac.
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Mr. Engebretson: On a daily and regular basis so that it would not be
objectionable to the residential neighbors?
Mr. Taylor: Yes. We intend to maintain this lawn so that it fits into the
neighborhood.
''i► Mr. Engebretson: Would you have an underground sprinkler system?
Mr. Taylor: That is not in this proposal. I recall that coming up
previously. If that is required zoning-wise, we will do what is
necessary to go back to that zoning, but that is not in our
proposal here.
Mr. Engebretson: What if it isn't required? How do you feel about that? Think
about it.
Mr. LaPine: The way you have the placement of the shrubs and where the valves
are, it looks like they are placed in such a manner that
basically they kind of hide the valves. Is that the reason they
are placed that way?
Mr. Taylor: Correct. We are tying not to draw attention to them, to screen
them as well as we can.
Mr. LaPine: Now to get on with this point that Mr. Engebretson brought up
about the underground sprinkler system. If we have a drought, the
grass will come back with a heavy rain, but the shrubs will die.
How are you going to maintain shrubs if we go into a dry spell
and you are not going to water them? It's fine if we get a rain
once a week, but if we're not, it seems to me you are going to
constantly replace shrubs.
Mr. Taylor: Particularly the first few years, they are going to take a lot of
attention. Our people will be making special efforts to water
them so we will not have to replace them. If it is felt a
sprinkler system is necessary, we have no other means of water on
the site. There is no other sanitary or domestic water required.
It is an unmanned facility so we have no other need for water.
Ms. Fandrei: If we don't have water on the property, than it would be
difficult to water the plants in between rains without this
equipment, right?
Mr. Taylor: Yes, it would have to be brought in on service trucks, or we can
arrange to have a contractor bring water in. I am not sure which
way we would go.
Ms. Fandrei: Is it unusual to have water on site?
Mr. Taylor: It would be a special case.
Mr. LaPine: Any other questions on the landscaping?
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Mr. Vynalek: What does Ralph Bakewell think about the landscaping?
Mr. Bakewell: It looks fine. Meets all the requirements.
Mr. Taylor: This is a prospective view of what the proposed site will look
like once it is developed and landscaped. This would be looking
'NOW from the northwest corner looking southeasterly from Newburgh
here and looking at the northwest corner of the proposed
building. We are proposing basically a masonry building with
some accent panels to set it off. No windows in the building.
The main reason for that is to prevent vandalism and to do away
with any easy means of illegal entry. The valves that we talked
about earlier are buried in this area, showing one of the hand
wheels. Those are valve extensions which would be locked in a
fixed position, either open or closed.
Mr. LaPine: There are two doors? You said the building was split down the
middle?
Mr. Taylor: Yes. On both the north and south walls there will be two sets of
doors. The one here on the right will go into the regulator
section of the building and the other doors which are double
doors, would go into the heater section of the building.
Mr. LaPine: Can someone from the inside go from side to side without going
back outside the building?
Mr. Taylor: No. It is a separate building. The wall that is constructed
between the two areas is considered a vapor type wall. On one
side we have a high pressure gas piping and equipment within the
rooms. The electrical facilities are designed for a hazardous
atmosphere in case there should be a gas leak in that room. The
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other side we use a water bath type heater which is a general
purpose design to separate those two.
Mr. LaPine: One door you said was a double overhead door?
Mr. Taylor: No. It is a double swing. That would allow us if we needed
maintenance on the heater. There are heat exchanger tubes that
could require maintenance. In order to remove these tubes, we
would have to open these doors to pull these tubes. The tubes
may be roughly 25' long so we would pull them out in this
driveway area if we need to make inspections on them.
Mr. LaPine: There is a metal stack on the roof to take the tubes from the
heater. Is that correct?
Mr. Taylor: Right. That is the flue stack.
Mr. Tent: You mentioned the building would be of masonry construction. Are
we talking brick?
Mr. Taylor: Yes, that is what we have shown on the plans that we submitted
and what we intend.
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Mr. Tent: A neutral colored brick?
Mr. Taylor: We haven't picked the color of brick. This is a rendering of our
plan as far as brick color, but we haven't gone out to pick the
color.
Mr. Tent: What kind of panels are those that you have? Metal?
Mr. Taylor: Galvanized steel painted metal. We haven't speced that out.
Mr. Tent: So that is not determined as yet either.
Mr. Taylor: No.
Mr. Tent: Are those doors steel? Will the colors stand out like red, green
or purple?
Mr. Taylor: We will paint them to match with the brick. We won't be using
what we consider standard company colors.
Mr. Tent: What will the facade be? Metal also?
Mr. Taylor: Yes, to match with the walls.
Mr. Tent: The chimney, is that a regular metal chimney? Could that be
brick?
Mr. Taylor: No, what is proposed is a steel pipe flue stack which we would
• put an aluminum jacket on for appearance. The stack could look
rusty over time, so an aluminum jacket around it would cover it
and not show any stains.
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Mr. Tent: So this would be a utility type building, like a pole barn?
Mr. Taylor: No. We feel this building fits into the residential
neighborhood. Not what we would call a normal, standard
building. Normally, if we were in a rural area, we would propose
just a strictly pre-engineered steel building.
Mr. Tent: Is there one in the area that is similar?
Mr. Taylor: Not that was constructed recently. The station I mentioned at 13
Mile and Middlebelt is similar in design. It is a brick
construction. It does have a heater inside the building with a
vapor type wall. It is a type of brick that was used back in the
late 50s or early 60s.
Mr. Tent: How high does the stack stick up from the building?
Mr. Taylor: Approximately 10' from the top of the roof to the top of the
stack. That won't be known exactly until we get the quotations.
We want to limit the hight of the stack so that it doesn't stand
out.
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Mr. Engebretson: You said the building would be constructed of brick with some
metal accents to set it off. It appears to me that the portion
of the building facing the street is basically metal with brick
setting it off.
Mr. Taylor: Yes. Looking at that west wall, that is 40' from corner to
corner as proposed right now. There is more metal than brick.
That is correct.
Mr. Engebretson: Why don't you just make it all brick?
Mr. Taylor: We have a flexibility to do whatever is most pleasing. In our
original proposal for the submittal made in April, we had a
combination of metal and brick and that seemed to be well
received and so we basically are copying that.
Mr. Engebretson: I am not so sure how well that was received. If this facility
were out in a rural area, I could understand, but with
residential on three sides, I am not so sure. To move on, not to
be a doomsayer, if someone got inside the building, what risks
are there and what provisions do you have to detect them and
monitor them?
Mr. Taylor: If anything is done to upset the pressur or disconnect our
monitoring system, we will be made aware of it very quickly. As
soon as the telephone system can transmit it. However, if you
have someone that is educated on this type of equipment and is an
expert, I guess the worse thing that could happen is that he
could turn up the set points on the regulators and getting
pressure out of that station and going higher than it should. it
would be very difficult for someone to do that unless he is very
'tor knowledgable and very intentional in his actions.
Mr. Engebretson: Since it is an unmanned facility and since it is in a
populated area, we should think about these things. You should
invest in a suitable alarm system that would go beyond averting a
problem prior to detecting some changes in pressure from the
monitoring system.
Mr. Taylor: The best answer is that just on our operating experience, we do
have a classification called City gage stations which are on our
high pressure system out remotely located. We have not had that
problem. We have over 100 of these type of locations. In my
time with Consumers, over 25 years, I don't recall of any
incident of that nature happening.
Mr. Vyhnelak: How far is that off the road from Newburgh?
Mr. Taylor: I will have to look at a drawing to refresh my memory.
Mr. Tent: Mr. Nagy, while he is refreshing his memory, I remember we talked
about the building elevation plan by Consumers Power that was
approved, but really from what he says there is no building
elevation. All the things he has said are really hypothetical at
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this point, so how could we have recommended approval? I am just
curious to know what elevation plan we are talking about. We
don't have all the facts.
Mr. Nagy: Mr. Tent, we do have a very detailed building elevation plan that
shows the elevation plan that mentions all of the hights of the
building and the heights of the metal mansard and the width of
the metal panels. The only thing that is actually missing on
this drawing would be the color of the brick, and if the
Commission wishes, they can make that a condition of approval
that it be an earth tone material.
Mr. Tent: I would like to say, yes, to approve it as submitted, however, I
have questions concerning what you are going to do about this.
Mr. Taylor: To answer your question, in the site plan as submitted we show
the front of the building being located 85' off the right of way
line. There is a 60' dimension from the line to the center of
the road, so overall we have 145' from the center of Newburgh to
the face of the building. The back of the homes are roughly 25'
west from the front of our building.
Mr. Vyhnelak: This is back further than any house?
Mr. Taylor: Correct. Close to 50' or 60' . We are 25' from behind the back
of those homes, not the front.
Mr. LaPine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak for or
against this petition?
There was no one in the audience wishing to speak for or against.
Mr. LaPine: Any members of the Commission?
McCann: Yes. Mr. Taylor, would you be willing to go on record to state
that you will implement your petition to show a sprinkler system?
I just don't believe that you will pay to have a man come out in
a truck and bring water on a daily basis. Would you amend your
petiton to add a sprinkler system?
Mr. Taylor: Yes, if it is felt to be necessary.
Mr. McCann: I would like it added as an amendment so that when it goes to the
Council, they get it as being on the petition.
Mr. Taylor: Right.
Mr. Vyhnelak: I think it should be decided before we vote. Is it going to be
brick or is it going to be like it shows? A couple of members
want it all brick.
Mr. LaPine: I would like to see at least the side facing Newburgh Road all
brick.
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Mr. Vyhnelak: The side facing Newburgh Road where it will get the most show
should be all brick.
Mr. Taylor: That can be done. We do not have a problem doing that. The
original intent of the panel was to add to the attractiveness. I
guess the general opinion is it is detracting. It will not be
that much more expensive to brick it completely.
Mr. LaPine: On all four sides?
Mr. Taylor: Correct.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr.
Lapine, Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 89-10-2-50 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Kluver, seconded by Mr. McCann, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#11-247-89 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Special Hearing having been held on
November 28, 1989 by Consumers Power Co. requesting waiver use
approval to construct a natural gas regulator station on property
located on the east side of Newburgh Road between Plymouth and
Amrhein Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 29, the City
Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council
that Petition 89-10-2-50 be approved subject to the following
conditions:
1) That the Site Plan marked H-4885 Sheet 1 dated 11-8-89
prepared by Consumers Power Co. which is hereby approved
shall be adhered to.
`. 2) That the Landscape Plan marked 905-E dated 11-7-89 prepared
by Consumers Power Co. is hereby approved as revised so as
to include an irrigation system and the landscape materials
shall be installed prior to the issuance of a Certificate of
Occupancy and shall thereafter be permanently maintained in
a healthy condition.
3) That the Building Elevation Plan dated 11-8-89 prpared by
Consumers Power Co. which is hereby approved as revised so
as to provide for all earth tone color brick on all four
sides of the proposed building shall be adhered to.
for the following reasons:
1) That the proposed use complies with all special and general
waiver use standards and requirements set forth in Section
5.03 and 19.06 of the Zoning Ordinance #543.
2) That the subject site has the capacity to accommodate the
proposed use.
3) That the proposed use is compatible to and in harmony with
the surrounding uses in the area.
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FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above hearing was given in
accordance with the provisions of Section 23.05 of Zoning
Ordinance ##543, as amended.
Mr. LaPine, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing
L resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 363rd Special
Meeting held on November 28, 1989 was adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
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Raymotld W. Tent, Secretary
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William LaPine, Chairman
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