HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1965-02-04 4401
MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA .
On Thursday, February 4, 1965, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia
held the Public Hearing at the Livonia City Hall, 33001 Five Mile Road, Livonia,
Michigan. Mr. Donald Heusted, Vice-Chairman, called the public hearing to order
at approximately 8:10 p.m, with approximately airty--five interested persons
present.
Members present: James Cameron John J. Ward Donald C. Pollock
Harry Henry Wrightman Donald Heusted
Members absent: aob R. Whitehead Charles W. Walker Raymond W. Tent
Mr. Don Hull, Planning Director, was present.
Mr. John J. Ward presided as Secretary pro tern in the absence of Bob R. Whitehead.
Mr. Heusted announced the only item on the agenda is the zoning in Sections 13-24
as shown on the new comprehensive zoning map of bind for the City of
Livonia. First the present zoning will be shown and then an over-lay
will be placed on the section showing the proposed zoning classifications.
Section 13
Mr. Wrightman questioned the C-1 area along Five Mile Road and the broken piece
to the west that is RUE. Mr. Hull stated he would assume there will be changes
requested in the future. Mr. Wrightman stated commission was talking about P in
.
Mrs. Frances Moore, 15192 Paderewski, stated the reason this is RUF is that
there are four homes from Paderewski east fronting on Five Mile Road.
Section 14
Mr. Wrightman questioned the C-2 being changed to Rl (north side of Five Mile Road
west of Merriman). Asked if this is because of what is there. Mr. Hull stated he
ould assume so but did not know for sure.
Section 15 - no comment
Section 16 - no comment
Section 17 - no comment
Section 18
Mr. Robert Fisken, 15441 Fitzgerald, stated zoning as shown does not affect land
that has already been platted. Mr. Hull stated it does to some extent. Intent
is to tailor category to existing use. Mr. Fisken questioned whether land being
changed to 801 lots but being platted to 60+ lots could city prevent developer
from building on 60' lots. Mr. Hull stated city could with one exception - if
plat is recorded and developer is building in the field. The developer will
IL develop on the basis of zoning and not according to plat in the hopper.
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Section 19
Mr. Fisken stated that heavy trucks are passing through residential area and
asked whether this is allowed. Referred to Newburg Road and stated this is
getting to be a problem in Livonia. Asked if there is anything that can be done
about this.
Mr. Pollock stated that the road is built and maintained by the County and it is
their say what travels on it.
Mr. Wrightman stated that if the freeway goes through, it will alleviate
a lot of the heavy traffic.
Mr. Hull stated that the City Planning Commission could re-evaluate the Master
Thoroughfare'P.Xan along these lines.
Section 20
Mr. Walter Juras, 36039 Scone, referred to Levan Road and the fact that for
three miles it has two traffic lights and a flasher. This is an 86' road
(five lanes) and is heavily travelled. According to the state, it will be the
last exist onto freeway. Suggested a ;.ocmplete study is needed in this area because
of the truck traffic etc. Should make an effort for a good Thoroughfare Plan for
City of Livonia.
Mr. Heusted, Vice-Chairman, declared a recess at approximately 9:35 p.m.
Mr. Heusted, Vice-Chairman, called the Public Hearing to order again at
9:50 p.m.
Section 20
Mr. Juras, represe-iting Madonna Estates Civic Assocation and the adjacent property
owners, stated he would like to have a classification of B at least on parcels K2,
K1J2, Jl, Il, I2, H, and Mlbl. Also would like R-3 parcel to B.
Section 21
Mr. Henry Koloff, 25408 Henley, Huntington Woods, referred to small section of
R-3 (Lots 31 and 32) . Stated when R-3 was originally approved, it was a cs:npromise
as a buffer zone on Five Mile Road. This was zoned R-3 when homes were built.
A classification of R-2 will not work because of the size of the parcel.
Suggested 60' x 120' lots going into the subdivision and the two small areas left
on the back would be for P building and parking.
Mr. Harry C. Tatigian, First Assistant City Attorney, arrived at meeting at
approximately 10:15 p.m.
Mr. Pollock asked what direction P building would face. Mr. Koloff stated
Five Mile Road.
Mr. Pollock suggested two lots be zoned P with greenbelt separating subdivision.
Mr. Koloff stated that in either case (his suggestion or Mr. Pollook's suggestion)
the two lots should not remain zoned R-2 as shown.
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Section 22 - no comment
Section 23
Mr. Robert Bertoli, 14112 Henry Ruff Road, questioned how snail lots were
developed when area is zoned RUF. Mr. Hull stated at one time lots smaller than
1/2 acre were permitted but the standards have changed.
Mr. Walter Abraham, 29127 Five Mile Road, stated he owned a vacant 36' corner lot.
Next door is also a 36' vacant lot. Both located on the Northwest corner of
Cavour and Jamison. He would gladly sell his lot for $500 which is what it's
worth; however, the owner next door wants $2,000. He (Mr. Abraham) is unable to
secure a building permit and yet he is also unable to get additional property at
a fair price. The owner lives in Brooklyn, New York. Stated somewhere in the
ordinance it should state that lots platted prior to ordinance, do not have to
apply. Mr. Pollock stated he is against this.
Mr. Abraham stated this would give people a chance to use their property that was
platted a long time ago.
Mr. Donald Barton, 30280 Oakview, referred to undeveloped parcel along Lyndon
(the proposed Lu Har Subdivision by Gordon-Begin) . Stated developer has
submitted plat showing 60' lots. Requested R-3 at least for area along Henry
Ruff Roadextended to Oakview (Parcels Mla and others). This classification
would more closely reflect the use of the land.
Mr. Pollock suggested commission look at M-1 area. Mr. Hull stated commission
might want to rezone the whole thing to residential category.which is what
adjacent area is zoned.
Mr. Abraham stated this is the Spanich property and that there is industrial
building being constructed there now. If this is a non-conforming use there could
be no building or enlargement in area.
Section 24
Mr. Abraham requested the C-2 on Five Mile Road (northeast corner) be extended to
Garden.
Mrs. Frances Moore stated she would like area to remain as is. To the north, east
and south it is residential. Paderewski east has always been residential and
across Five Mile Road is RUF. Stated she represents Mrs. Frieda Harder,
15192 Paderewski and Mrs. Clark Richa rdseit, 29105 Five Mile Road. Stated she
recently secured 120 signatures wanting area to remain as is.
Mr. Abraham stated across the street is not all residential as Mrs. Moore says.
There are only two homes in there and Mr. Novak is in favor of commercial. The
one home they want to sell for funeral_home and on the North side there is
existing R-3. In these two blocks it was commercial at the time of the township
zoning and before 1952. The lots are 20' wide and 100' deep. Listed what was
e-; sing in commercial area now - rent-it shop, cleaners, electric shop, Ab-Ro
Realty, gas company pressure station, doctor office, heating company, barber shop,
grocery, B & Td Meats and a gas station. Across the street at Middlebelt Road is a
gas station, feed store, vet., bar, and hardware. The house is the only parcel
zoned residential. This will be commercial because the whole back area is R-3.
Area is not residential.
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Mr. Heusted questioned whether objection is to use or zoning. Mr. Abraham stated
they would like area commercial so that property can be used. Stated he
represents Floyd Hopkins and all the people in business in area. No one objects
to it except the Richardson's and Mrs. Moore.
Mrs. Moore stated residents do not want it changed Will compromise to a buffer
area of P zoning.
Mr. William Titus, 29103 Five Mile Road, stated there could not be two blocks of
P zoning in area.
Mr. Abrahar,stated there is a PS area at Northeast corner of Deering and Five
Mile Road and no one wants it. There is also area at Southeast corner of Jamison
and Middlebelt Roads and owner cannot get rid of it either. There is too much
PS zoning in area and there is a biapr demand for commercial. Mrs. Richardson's
house is up for sale now.
Mrs. Moore stated Mrs. Richardson's husband recently died and it was he who put
sign up just to see what he could get for land. Mrs. Richardson has been unable
to take sign down since husband's death. Has no intention of selling house now
Mr. Hull stated that it is the intention to reflect present zoning and use of
area and not to correct ills. Not trying to make whole-sale changes at this time.
The important thing now is the text.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Wrightman, seconded by Mr. Pollock and unanimously
adopted, it was
#2-26-65 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn
the Public Hearing held on Thursite, , February 4, 1965 at approximately
11:20 p.m.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
Jo J. Na Secretary pro tem
ATTESTED:
Donald Heusted, Vice- hairman