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MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE
159TH SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, April 2, 1963 the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia held
a Public Hearing and the 159th Special Meeting at the Livonia City Hall, 33001 Five
Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Edward G.Milligan, Vice-Chairman, called the
Public Hearing to order at approximately 8010 pim. in the absence of Mr. Charles
W. Walker, Chairman.
Members present: James CameronRobert,L. Angevine, Edward G. Milligan, Milton
Ingold, Dr. Daniel Allen, W. E. Okerstrom and Dennis Anderson
Members absent : Charles W. islaiker
Mr. David R. McCullough, City Planner, was present along with approximately 25
interested persons in the audience. Mr. Charles Forrest, City Attorney was not present.
Mr. McCullough announced the first item on the agenda was Petition M-278 by Harry
A. Norber, President of Norber Builders, Inc. , requesting approval to
erect several units of apartments on property located approximately 300
feet south of Seven Mile Road and approximately 200 feet east of Middle-
belt Road between Seven Mile Road and Clarita in the Northwest 1/4 of
Section 12.
The petitioner was not present.
Mr. McCullough explained there were two schemes submitted by the petitioner. Scheme
B was the preferred one. He stated he had been informed that theseepartments
would consist of one and two bedrooms and would rent for approximately $200.00 a
month.
Mr. Milligan asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak?
Mr. Winkle, 19005 Maplewood asked what kind of apartments would they be? Mr.
Milligan suggested that Mr. McCullough show the proposed plans to Mr. Winkle.
Mr. Fred Lotz, representative from the Traffic Commission asked that the petition
be taken under advisement until such time that they could study the plans as to
ingress and egress, after which they will forward their recommendations to the
Planning Commission.
Mr. Milligan asked if they could have the recommendations in time for the study
meeting of the Planning Commission scheduled for the following Tuesday. Mr. Lotz
stated they could have a special meeting if necessary.
Mr. Milligan declared that this item would be taken under advisement.
Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda is Petition M-279 by Alma A.
Sigman and Iris F. & Leonard E. Hunter seeking approval to fill in a
flood plain on property located on the southwest corner of Middlebelt
= Road and Munger in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 14.
Mr. Sigman and Mr. Hunter were present.
Mr. McCullough stated that a few years ago Mr. Sigman had received approval to
fill in on his property but that he has been stopped from doing any more.
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li Mr. Hunter stated that since approval had been given the City has changed Engineers
and the present City Engineer has asked that this request be denied although it had
been previously approved by the other City Engineer
Mr. Milligan asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak?
Mr. Donald Clark, 16584 Middlebelt Road, stated he had no criticism to give but he
was interested in this because he would like to be permitted to fill in his
property.
Mr. Milligan stated he would like to suggest that this petition be scheduled for a
study meeting next Tuesday evening and between now and then a letter could be obtained
from the City Engineer specifically covering this item rather than a general
statement.
Mr. Hunter stated that Mr. Strasser, City Engineer) has already said he would not
permit it, although Mr. Hiltz, former City Engineer did approve it. He asked if
it was legal to take private property away from the owners? He said he had appeared
before the Board of Review and they refused to give him a reduction of taxes but
when he went to get a permit to fill in on his property he was told he couldn't do
this.
Mr. Ingold stated since the Planning Commission gave approval to fill in 4 years
ago, it seems that the Planning Commission needs an opinion from the Legal Department
as to.. tial long this approval is good for. Is there a time limit?
Mr. Milligan stated this information will be obtained also and discussed at the
study meeting. He informed the petitioners they would be notified when this item
will be heard again.
Mr. Clark asked if it would set a precedent whatever decision is made?
Mr. Milligan answered he did not know at this time. He declared that this item
will be taken under advisement and studied at the next study meeting scheduled for
Tuesday, April 9, 1963.
Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda is Petition M-280 by Leo
Lobbestael requesting approval to erect a church on property located
on the east side of Parkville between Vassar and Seven Mile Road,
approximately 350 feet north of Seven Mile Road in the Southwest 1/4
of Section 1.
Mr. Fred Hanson was present representing Mr. Leo Lobbestael. He stated the seating
capacity of the proposed church was 350. The building would be of face brick
construction.
Mr. Milligan asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak?
Mr. Joseph Stenzel, 5575 Drexel, Detroit asked how close was this church to his
I: property? He owned 22 acres on Vassar and Parkville.
Mr. McCullough submitted a copy of the plan to the audience for their examination.
Mr. Fred Lotz, Traffic Commissioner, stated he would like to suggest the same for
this petition as he did for the first petition and that is take this under advisement
until the Traffic Commission has examined the petition. They were going to have a
meeting the following Monday.
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ligMrs. P. Burger, 19205 Parkville asked what type of building would this be?
Mr. Hanson answered it would be like a ranch type home.
Mrs. Burger questioned the provisions for parking. Mr. Milligan stated the parking
would be behind thechurch close to Weyher. She stated she did not think this was
a proper place for a church.
Mr. Milligan asked if there was anyone else in the audience who wished to speak?
Mr. Harold Meyers, 9245 Ward, Detroit asked about the architect of the church. He
owned property between the church and Seven Mile Road. Mr. Milligan stated that
the Planning Commission could not control the architect of the church. The zoning
is correct for a church and is allowed in a residential zone with the permission
of the Planning Commission. Mr. Milligan asked Mr. Meyers if he objected to the
property being used for a church? Mt. Meyers answered he did not, but he would
like to get rid of his lots. Mr, Milligan suggested that Mr. Meyers contact the
church people and discuss this with them, He said the Planning Commission could not
allow or deny a church in any area zoned residential based merely on the architect,
only the use that the land will be used for and if it is in keeping with the
planned development of the area.
II4Mr. Anderson asked if there will be class rooms?
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1 Mr. Hanson replied that some day they would have a school. The present building
is 30 x 50 and seats 150.
Mr. Cameron stated he felt the present building seems quite small for 350 people.
Mr. Milligan asked Mr. Anderson if he thought it was too small for 350 people?
Mr. Anderson stated it would be quite crowded. Using 10 sq. ft. per person it would
be only large enough for 315 people and that is the minimum. Mr. Milligan suggested
that the petitioner discuss this with his architect and possibly increase the
building size in order to besure there is adequate space. He asked that this be
done before the study meeting.
Mr. Clarence Shaeffer, 19227 Parkville asked where the entrance would be? Mr.
Milligan answered the entrance and exit were on Parkville. Mr. Shaeffer stated that
Parkville was not very wide. Mr. Milligan stated that this petition was to be
discussed by the Traffic Commission and they will give the Planning Commission a
recommendation in time for the study meeting.
Mr. Milligan stated this item would be taken under advisement.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Ingold, it was
#4-47-63 RESOLVED that, the Cheldy poa Tuesdaylanning �Apriln2dol963eatbapproximately
adjourn
the Public Hearing
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A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Allen, Ingold, Cameron, Anderson, Okerstrom, Angevine and
Milligan
NAYS: None
Mr. Milligan declared the motion is carried and the public hearing is adjourned.
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At this time a study meeting was held on various items taken under advisement
at the last public hearing and regular meeting.
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Mr. Milligan called the 159th Special Meeting to order at approximately 9:20 p.m.
with all those present now who were present at the time the public hearing was
adjourned.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Dr. Allen, it was
#4-48-63 RESOLVED that pursuant to Section 20.01 of the Zoning Ordinance of the
City of Livonia, Ordinance No. 60, the City Planning Commission does
hereby establish and order that a public hearing be held to determine
whether or not to rezone the following described property:
The East 35 acres of the W. 1/2 of the Southwest 1/4 of
Section 2, T. 1 S. , R. 9 E. , City of Livonia, Wayne County,
Michigan, more particularly described as follows: Beginning
at a point on the South line of Section 2, T. 1 S. , R. 9 E. ,
coincident with the center line of Seven Mile Road, distant
N. 89° 58' 10" E. 742.50 feet from the S.W. 1/4 corner of
said section, and proceeding thence N. 0° 00' 40" E. 2649.27
feet; thence along the E. and W. 1/4 line of Section 2, N.89°
53' 40" E. 576.37 feet; thence S. 0° 05' 30" W. 2650.03 feet;
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thence along the South line of Section 2, T. 1 S. , R. 9 E. ,
City of Livonia, Wayne County, Michigan, coincident with the
center line of Seven Mile Road, S. 89° 58' 10" W. 572.64 feet
to the point of beginning, containing 34.94 acres and subject
to the rights of the public in Seven Mile Road,
from R-1A (One Family Residential) to RLA (Residential Large Lot). This
property is located on the north side of Seven Mile Road immediately
west of Sunset in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 2,
FURTHER RESOLVED that a hearing be held and notice be given as provided
in Section 20.01 of the Zoning Ordinance, Ordinance No. 60 of the City
of Livonia and that there shall be a report submitted and recommendation
thereon to the City Council.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Allen, Ingold, Cameron, Anderson, Okerstrom, Angevine and Milligan
NAYS: None
Mr. Milligan declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Dr. Allen and unanimously
adopted, it was
#4-49-63 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Section 20.01 of the Zoning Ordinance of the
City of Livonia, Ordinance No. 60, the City Planning Commission does
hereby establish and order that a public hearing be held to determine
whether or not to rezone the following described property:
Golden Ridge Subdivision as recorded in Liber 57, Page 18,
said subdivision being a part of the West half of the Southeast
1/4 of Section 31, T. 1 S. , R. 9 E. , City of Livonia, Wayne
County, Michigan and
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Golden Ridge Subdivision #1 as recorded in Liber 62,
IlL Page 94, said subdivision being a part of the West
half of the Southeast 1/4 of Section 31, T. 1 S. , R.
9 E. , City of Livonia, •Wayne County, Michigan,
from R-1B (One-Family Residential) to RLA (Residential Large Lot) .
This property is located north of Joy Road between Hix and Stonehouse
in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 31,
FURTHER RESOLVED, that a hearing be held and notice be given as
provided in Section 20.01 of the Zoning Ordinance, Ordinance No.
60 of the City of Livonia and that there shall be a report submitted
and recommendation thereon to the City Council.
Mr. Milligan declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Dr. Allen and unanimously
adopted, it was
#4-50-63 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Section 20.01 of the Zoning Ordinance of
the City of Livonia, Ordinance No. 60, the City Planning Commission does
hereby establish and order that a public hearing be held to determine
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whether or not to rezone the following described property
Parcel 03B2a,
Tlbl, T2a,U1, V2a: That part of the Southeast 1/4 of Section 3 described
as beginning at the S. 1/4 corner of Section 3 and proceeding
thence N. 0° 35' 46" W. along the N. and S. 1/4 Section line,
2623.28 ft. to the center 1/4 corner of Section 3; thence S.
89° 36' 50" E. along the E and W 1/4 Section line, 160.47 ft. ;
thence along the boundary of Spring Valley Subdivision S. 0°
34' 40" E. 1825.0 ft. and S. 30° E. 235.0 ft. and S. 53° E.
230.0 ft. and S. 89° 06' 16" E. 225.25 ft. and S. 89° 56' 29"
E. 200.59 ft. and S. 0° 14' 20" E. 435.78 ft. ; thence due
west along the S. section line 879.60 ft. to the point of
beginning except the most easterly 200 ft. thereof, consisting
of 15.96 acres;
Parcel 03W1a,
03X1a: That part of the E. 1/2 of Section 3 described as beginning
at the intersection of the E. line of Section 3 and the N.
line of Fairfax Avenue and proceeding thence S. 89° 25' 20"
W. along said N. line, 145 ft. , thence N. 0° 18' 40" W, 114.10
ft. thence S. 89° 41' 20" W. 35 ft. ; thence N. 0° 18' 40" W.
270.81 ft. , thence N. 0° 25' 20" W. 329.80 ft. ; thence N. 89°
21' 40�� E. 180 ft. ; thence S. 0° 18' 40" E. along the E. Section
line, 715 ft. to the point of beginning, consisting of 2.86 acres;
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Zla, AAla,
BBlb: That part of the Southeast 1/4 of Section 3 described as
beginning a1 a po5nf on t Section line distan
Section 3
18' 400W.W. 1072.55 ft. from theSoutheastcornerof
and proceeding thence N. 0° 18' 40" W. along said line, 1130.27
ft. ; thence S. 89° 25' 20" W. along the S. line of Fairfax
Avenue, 145 ft. ; thence S. 0° 18' 40" E. 104.60 ft. ; thence S.
89° 41' 20" W. 35 ft. ; thence S. 0° 18' 40" E. 900 ft. , thence
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N. 89° 41' 20" E. 35 ft. ; thence S. 0° 18' 40" E. 125 ft. ,thence
N. 89° 41' 20" E. along the North line of Gable Ave. , 145 ft. to
the point of beginning, consisting of 4.48 acres;
Parcel 03BBla That part of the SE 1/4 of Section 3 described as
beginning at a point on the East Section line distant N.
0° 18' 40" W. 879.09 ft. from the SE corner of Section 3
and proceeding thence N. 0° 18' 40" W. along said line,
133,46 ft. ; thence S. 89° 41' 20" W. along the S. line of
Gable Avenue. , 140 ft. , thence S. 0° 18' 40" E. 132.62 ft. ,
thence S. 89° 58' 01" E. 140 ft. to the point of beginning,
consisting of 0.43 acre;
Parcel 03EE3a
That part of the SE 1/4 of Section 3 described as beginning
at a point on the S. line of said Section distant due West,
137.50 ft. from theSE corner of Section 3 and proceeding
thence due west along said S. line, 137.50 ft. ; thence N. 0°
17' W. 880.0 ft. ; thence due east, 137.50 ft. , thence S.
0° 17' E. 880.0 ft. to the point of beginning. , consisting
of 2.78 acres;
Parcel 03EE3b
That part of the SE 1/4 of Section 3 described as beginning
at the SE corner of Section 3 and proceeding thence due west
along the S. line of said Section, 137.50 ft. to the E. line
of Section3; thence S. 0° 17' E. along said line, 880.0
ft. to the point of beginning, consisting of 2.78 acres;
Lots 245 and 272 in the Spring Valley Subdivision, being a part of the
East nne/half of Section 3, T. 1 S. , R. 9 E. , City of Livonia,
Wayne County, Michigan;
from RUFA and RUFB (Rural Urban Farms) to R-1A (One Family Residential).
This property is located north of Seven Mile Road, between Merriman Court
and Hubbard in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 3.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that a hearing be held and notice be given as provided
in Section 20.01 of the Zoning Ordinance, Ordinance No. 60, of the City
of Livonia and that there shall be a report submitted and recommendation
thereon to the City Council.
Mr. Milligan declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Dr. Allen and unanimously
adopted, it was,
#4-51-63 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission after carefully reviewing
Part V of the Master Plan of the City of Livonia entitled, "Master
School & Park Plan", which plan was adopted by the City Planning
Commission on December 15, 1953 and amended from time to time and
revised on August 16, 1960 and thereafter certified to the City
Council and filed with the Wayne County Register of Deeds in accordance
with law and it appearing that certain property hereinafter described
should be deleted on such plan, the City Planning Commission on its
own motion does hereby order and establish a public hearing to be
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Iiiheld in the City Hall of the City of Livonia to determine whether
or not Part V of the Master-Plan of the City of Livonia should be
amended so as to delete for future public purposes the proposed
park site in the Northwest 1/4 of .Section 16, described as
follows:
That part of the Northwest 1/4 of Section 16, T. 1
S. , R. 9 E. , City of Livonia, Wayne County, Michigan
described as beginning at the Northeast corner of
Lot 545 of the Burton Hollow Estates Subdivision #4,
and proceeding thence N. 8° 31' 44" W, 381.91 ft. ;
thence S. 88° 50' 11" E. , 655.79 feet; thence S. 10°
47' 05" W. , 360 ft. ; thence westerly 408.74 ft. along
the arc of a curve having a radius of 1212.56 ft. ,
an interior angle of 19° 18' 49" and lying northerly
of the long cord of 406.80 ft. bearing N. 88° 52' 20"
W. ; thence S. 81° 28' 16" W. , 126.32 ft. to the point
of beginning,
IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED that notice of the time and place of said
public hearing be published in a newspaper of general circulation
in the City of Livonia and that proper notice by registered mail
be sent to each public utility company and railroad company owning
or operating any public utility or railroad within the City of
Livonia in accordance with the provisions of Act 285 of the Public
Acts of 1931, as amended.
Mr. Milligan declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Dr. Allen and unanimously
adopted, it was
#4-52-63 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Section 20.01 of the Zoning Ordinance of
the City of Livonia, Ordinance No. 60, the City Planning Commission
does hereby establish and order that a public hearing be held to
determine whether or not to rezone the following described property:
The North 1760 feet of the Northeast 1/4
of Section 10, T. 1 S. , R. 9 E. , City
of Livonia, Wayne County, Michigan
from RLA (Residential Large Lot) to RUFA (Rural Urban Farms). This
property is located on the South side of Seven Mile Road between
Merriman and Brookfield in the North half of Section 10.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that a hearing be held and notice be given as
provided in Section 20.01 of the Zoning Ordinance, Ordinance No. 60
of the City of Livonia and that there shall be a report submitted and
recommendation thereon to the City Council.
Mr. Milligan declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Ingold, it was
#4-53-63 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve
the minutes for the meeting held on Tuesday, March 5, 1963, except
for that person who was not present he abstain from voting.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Allen, Cameron, Anderson, Okerstrom, Angevine and Milligan
NAYS: None
NOT VOTING: Ingold
Mr. Milligan declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Ihgold and unanimously
adopted, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the 159th Special
Meeting held on Tuesday, April 2, 1963 at approximately 9:25 p.m.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
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R. L. Angevine -ecretary
ATTESTED:-
Edward G. Milligan, ce-Chai an
(Chairman pro-tem)
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