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• MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE
146TH REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
li] On Tuesday, January 22, 1963 the City Planning Commission of the•City of Livonia
held a public hearing and the 146th Regular Meeting at the Livonia City Hall,.33001
Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Edward Milligan, Vice Chairman, called the
Public Hearing to order at approximately 8:04 p.m. in the absence of Mt. Charles
Walker, Chairman.
Members present: Robert L. Angevine, Edward Milligan, Milton Ingold, W. E.
Okerstrom and Dr. Daniel Allen
Members absent : Charles W. Walker,#Dennis Anderson and James Cameron*
Mr. David R. McCullough, City Planner and Mt. Charles Forrest, Jr. , Assistant City
Attorney were present along with approximately 15 interested persons in the audience.
Mr. Milligan explained to the audience that although there was no quorum the public
hearing would be held" until there is a quorum no vote will be taken.
Mr. McCullough announced the first item on the agenda is Petition M-269 by Rev.
Troy Hull for Grace Baptist Church of Livonia requesting approval to
erect a church on property located on the northwest corner of Lyndon
and Harrison in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 24.
Reverend Hull was present.
1EMt. McCullough stated the site plan submitted by the petitioner designated the church
building in the southerly portion of the property. Because the City may want to
connect Harrison at Lyndon in the future, he asked Reverend Hull if they would object
placing the church at the north end of the property so that the street could be
connected? Reverend Hull answered there would be no objection to this. He stated
the church would be a brick building and would have a 300 seat capacity. The entire
site will be developed. The parking lot would be seal coated or black top. The
ingress and egress will be worked out with the Traffic Commission.
Mt. Milligan asked if there was anybody in the audience who wished to speak?
Mr.L. Klapp, 28471 Oakley stated he was the owner of Lot #6, immediately west of
the property in question. He wanted to see the proposed site plan. A copy was
shown to the audience. It was ascertained that the church would be located at
least 25 ft. from Mr. Klapp's lot line and that the parking would be considerably
south of his house.
**Mr. James Cameron arrived at 8:06 p.m.
Mr. Okerstrom asked if Harrison was paved south of Lyndon? Mr. Milligan stated
there was a half strip south of Lyndon. It is unpaved north of Lyndon. He asked
Reverend Hull if they would consider paving Harrison along their property?
IliReverend Hull answered they were in favor of paving Harrison. It would be to their
advantage. Mr. Milligan asked if they would pave the entire width? Reverend Hull
answered he could not answer that at this time but they would consider paving half.
There was a brief discussion as to how the curve would be made to connect Harrison
at Lyndon. Mr. McCullough stated this would have to be discussed with Gordon & Begin
Developers and the other property owners who own property at the intersection.
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ingold, supported by Mr. Angevine, it was
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#1-9-63 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, January 22, 1963 the City Planning Commission does hereby
grant Petition M-269 by Reverend Troy Hull for the Grace Baptist
Church requesting approval to erect a church on property located
on the northwest corner of Lyndon and Harrison in the Northwest
1/4 of Section 24, subject, however, to the following:
(1) that the applicant maintain a 75 ft. setback from both Lyndon
and Harrison;
(2) that a greenbelt approved by the Department of Parks & Recreation
be planted and maintained along the west property line from Oakley
south 100 ft. ; and
(3) that the petitioner agrees to dedicate the corner of Harrison
in order to connect said strtr.t on the north of Lyndon with that of Harrison on
the south of Lyndon at some future date;
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to property
owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments as listed in
the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Ingold, Cameron, Anderson, Okerstrom, Angevine and Milligan
NAYS: None
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Mr. Milligan declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda is Petition M-270 by Steve
Polgar, Attorney for St. Paul's Presbyterian Church seeking approval to enlarge the
present church and extend the accessory parking facilities on property
located on the east side of Cavell and on the west side of Arcola, south of
Five Mile Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 24.
Mr. Steve Polgar and Mr. Klemick, representative for the church, were present. Mr.
Polgar explained that they were going to use Lots 28, 29, 90 through 95 and 35,
in addition to the area previously approved several years ago. They were also going
to enlarge the educational facilities. It was planned to have a greenbelt between
Lot 35 and the house on the next lot and also behind the two existing homes. This
is being done to provide a maximum amount of privacy to these homes.
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Mr. Milligan asked if the parking would be as shown on the layout? Mr. Klemidc
stated it was and explained it more fully to those present. He explari$ed also that
the church owned property on the west side of Cavell but this would nbf be used unless
it is needed in the future. There were no plans to use it as of now. `
Mr. Milligan asked if there was anyone in the audience who w4hed to speak?
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Mr. Anderson asked how many parking spaces did the church have now and how many would
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they have with the additional property?
Mr. Klemick answered that there were presently 200 spaces. They had three services
on Sunday. Because of this they needed the extra parking spaces. The streets were
too narrow for the cars to park on. They eventually will have room to park 350 cars.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr.Cameron supported by Mr. Ingoldand unanimously
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adopted it was
#1-10-63 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
I[: Tuesday, January 22, 1963 the City Planning Commission does hereby
grant Petition M-270 by Steve Polgar, Attorney for St. Paul's
Presbyterian Church seeking approval to enlarge the present church
and extend the accessory parking facilities on property located on
the East side of Cavell and the West side ofArcola, south of Five
Mile Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 24, subject, however, to
the following..conditions:
(1) that a 4 ft. chain link fence and greenbelt 64-erected along a
line 25 ft. north of and parallel to the north line of Lot- #35 as
well as along the east line of Lots 35 through #38 according to the
prior agreement of all affected land owners;
(2) that ingress and egress be approved by the l'kaffic Commission;
and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to property
owners within 500 feet, petitioner and Cloty Departments as listed
in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Klemick stated that the property owners of the existing houses could have the
greenbelt wherever they wanted it.
LMr. Milligan declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ingold, supported by Mr. Angevine and unanimously
adopted, it was
#1-11-63 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the
Public Hearing held on Tuesday, January 22, 1963 at approximately
8:30 p.m.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Ingold, Cameron, Anderson, Ckerstram, Angevine and Milligan
NAYS: None
Mr. Milligan declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
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Mr. Milligan called the 146th Regular Meeting to order at approximately 3:31 p.m.
with all those present now who were present at the time the public hearing was
adjourned.
Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda is a letter dated December
13, 1962 from the Bureau of Inspection requesting the bond release on
I!: Topsoil Application TA-75 by the Lollio Brothers in connection with
topsoil removal from the Outlot A, of the Kingsbury Heights Subdivision
located in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 17.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Ingold and unanimously
adopted, it was
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#1-12-63 RESOLVED that, pursuant to the report and recommendation of the
Bureau of Inspection dated December.13, 1962, the City Planning
lE) Commission does herein authorize the release of the bond in-the
amount of $5,000.00 by the Commercial Insurance Company of Newark,
New Jersey posted with the city in connection with topsoil removal
operations performed under Permit No. 71, (Application TA-75) issed
to Lollio Brothers, 24459 Van Born Road, Taylor, Michigan; it
appearing from the above report that all ordinance provisions and
rules and regulations have been complied with; and the City Clerk
is herein authorized to do all things necessary to the full per-
formance of this resolution.
Mr. Milligan declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda was a discussion on the question
re minimum frontage of lots on the cul-de-sacs in the Burton Hollows Estates Sub. #5
located in the Northwest 1/4of Section 16. It was ascertained that the frontage of
some of the lots in said subdivision was 50 ft. After a brief discussion it was
determined that 50 ft. was sufficient. If the frontage was made too much wider,
it increases the width of the rear of the lot out of proportion.
Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda was the approval of the minutes
for the meeting held on Tuesday, December 4, 1962.
It was ascertained that in said minutes, Resolution #12-228-62 relative to a bond
release for TA-42 by the Pershing Sand Company, should be rescinded. This resolution
Gave approval to release the bond The Planning Commission had-intended to adopt
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a resolution to forward a letter to the applicant informing him that the bond would
not be released until such time that the area involved was entirely cleaned up.The
secretary misunderstood the intention of the Planning Commission and wrote the
resolution to approve the bond release. It was felt that the minutes could be
approved and Resolution #12-228-62 could be rescinded in one resolution.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ingold, supported by Mr. Okerstrom and unanimously
adopted, it was
#1-13-63 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve
the minutes for the meeting held on Tuesday, December 4, 1962
as corrected by rescinding Resolution #12-223-62.
Mr. Milligan declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda is final approval for the
Burton Hollow Woods Subdivision located north of Six Mile Road and
approximately 460 East of Farmington Road in the Southwest 1/4 of
Section 10.
Mr. David Meinzinger was present for the developer, Rouge Building Company.
:t was ascertained after a brief discussion that it has been the practice of the
I!: Planning Commission not to give final approval to the subdivisions until the bond
is filed. Mr. Ingold stated that just recently the Planning Commission had advised
another developer that they would have a special meeting to approve his subdivision
whenever he could file his bond. He asked if this could not be done for this
developer also? Mr. Milligan asked Commissioners if they would be willing to meet
next Tuesday in the event that the bond could be filed for this subdivision? The
Commissioners agreed to do this.
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• It was also decided to hold a study meeting next Tuesday at which time several items
will be discussed, pertaining to the possible relocation of Hix Road in Section 7,
the proposed location of the limited access road in that section and also-future
recreational facilities for the east part of Livonia. It was suggested that repre-
sentatives from the State Highway Department, the Northwest Community College and
the Parks & Recreation Department be invited to this meeting.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mi . Ingold and unanimously
adopted, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the 146th Regular Meeting
held on Tuesday, January 22, 1963 at approximately 8:50 p.m.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
R. L. Angevine Secretary
ATTESTED:
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Edward G. Milligan, Vice- hail�an