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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1961-11-21 MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND 3326 • THE 133RD REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA On Tuesday, November 21, 1961 the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia held a public hearing and the 133rd Regular Meeting at the Livonia City Hall at 33001 Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Charles W. Walker, Chairman called the public hearing to order at approximately 8:02 p.m. Members present: James Watson, Jr. , Arthur Samuels, James Cameron, Robert L. Angevine, Leonard K. Kane, W. E. Okerstrom and Charles W. Walker. Members absent: **Robert L. Greene and Dennis Anderson Mr. David R. McCullough, City Planner was present along with approximately 10 interested persons in the audience. Mr. McCullough: The first item on the agenda is Petition Z-531 by the City Planning Commission, on its own motion, to determine whether or not to rezone certain property located on the south side of Plymouth Road between Ingram and Blackburn Streets in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 34 from C-1 to P-1. There is no correspondence but the two owners of the property involved are present tonight. le-, Mr. Joseph Maisano, 20254 Bentler, Detroit was also present to represent the two owners, Dr. George Timpona and Dr. George M. Marston. **Mr. Robert L. Greene arrived at approximately 8:05 p.m. A lengthy discussion was held on the question of the availability of parking space for that particular area. Dr. Timpona stated that at the present time there was an area of 40 ft. between his building line and the alley line which was used for parking purposes. He had one tenant in his building who was in the business of insurance besides his own office. Dr. Marston stated he had two tenants besides him- self, the office of Judge Lorion and a clinical laboratory. He also had approximately 43 ft. between his building line and the alley line for parking purposes. Dr. Timpona stated he did not know why he and Dr. Marston had been singled out for this rezoning. He and Dr. Marston had no parking problems. He was asked by Mr. McCullough what would happen if the other property owned by him were ever built upon. If all the area was used for building what about the parking? Dr. Timpona stated that out of what remained, he was going to keep 20 ft. for parking for himself and that whoever built upon the remaining portion, 20 ft. of that would also be for parking. Dr. Timpona continued by stating that if the city wanted to purchase a portion of what he owned to assure parking for that area he was willing to sell it for what he paid for it, plus the taxes and sewer assessment. Mr. Charles Forrest, Assistant City Attorney arrived at approximately 8:10 p.m. [ Mr. Walker explained to those present that the Planning Commission was looking into all the property between Merriman and Hubbard on the south side of Plymouth Road on this problem of parking. It was very critical in several places. This was the first hearing on the first portion. The intent is to bring all property owners in for a .. public hearing who have vacant property so as to determine if something could be worked out to eliminate the problem of off-steet parking in this area. He stated the Planning Commission was looking ahead when Plymouth Road is widened because this will eliminate the parking area in front of buildings. This will make it imperative • 3327 to either use the vacant lots for parking or have the parking at the rear of the buildings. It is also being determined whether or not it would be advisable to vacate the alley way. At this time it is not known if this would work out because it is not knownjust how-much the alley is used to service the businesses on Plymouth Road. I[: We feel that in the very near future there will be an acute parking problem in this area. It will depreciate property and hurt the existence of some of the businesses. If anything is to be done, it should be done now. If it is held off until further development of the vacant property, the local businesses there are going to be hurt much more. Mr. McCullough asked Dr. Timpona and Dr. Marston if they would make an effort to obtain the approval of the •:ther property owners in that area to go along with vacating the alley. They stated they would. It was also brought out that any addition to present buildings would preferred to be at the rear in the proposed vacated alley. Dr. Marston stated he had built his building with the idea of adding on to the side of the building. Mr. McCullough stated he felt it was possible to make his building "L" shape so as to utilize the area at the rear instead of at the side of the present building. Mr. Walker asked if there was anyone else in the audience who wished to speak? He then stated that this item would be taken under advisement until the information is received as to whether or not the other owners would be agreeable to requesting the vacating of the alley. Dr. Marston asked if the Planning Commission would approve the vacating of the alley, presuming that the other property owners went along with it? ILMr. Walker answered by stating that the Planning Commission had looked into the possibility of vacating the alley and the only thing that deterred them from going ahead was because we did not know how it would effect the people in the block and if they would object to the vacating. If it is found that the others do not object, then I would say that the Planning Commission would be agreeable to vacating the alley. Mr. Walker stated again that this item would be taken under advisement. Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-532 by the City Planning Commission, on its own motion, to determine whether or not to amend Article 14.00, sub-section 14.03 (h) and Article 15.00, sub-section 15.03 (b) of the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Livonia, Ordinance No. 60. Mr. Walker: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak. Mr. McCullough explained to those present that this amendment would eliminate or prohibit all dwellings, commercial and professional uses of every kind, unless other wise expressly listed as a permitted use in the industrial zones. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Angevine, it was #11-199-61 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held [ on Petition Z-532 as submitted by the City Planning Commission, on its own motion, to determine whether or not to amend Section 14.03 (h) of Article 14.00 and Section 15.03 (b) of Article 15.00 of the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Livonia, Ordinance No. 60, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition Z-532 be granted for the following reasons: (a) that industrial land is the municipality's prime economic 3328 resource. This proposal will tend to preserve the integrity of these areas by preventing the intrusion of less productive uses; and (b) in the event a large size commercial development is contemplated on industrial land, it can speedily be rezoned as was done in the case of Shopper's Fair, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the official newspaper, The Livonia City Post, under date of November 1, 1961 and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison Co. , Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone Co. , The Consumers Power Company, City Departments and petitioner as listed in the Proof of Service. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Samuels, Cameron, Greene, Angevine, Watson, Kane, Okerstrom and Walker NAYS: None Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-533 by the City Planning Commission, on its own motion, to determine whether or not to amend Article 14.00 by deleting Sections 14.02 (a) and (j) and amend Article 15.00 by deleting Section 15.02 (e) of the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Livonia, Ordinance No. 60. This amendment would prohibit drive-in theatres from the industrial zones. It also would delete that sub-section permitting any use of land or IL: building which is permitted in an AG or C-2 District to be used in the M-1 zone. It was ascertained that relative to Section 14.02 (a) which permitted AG and C-2 uses in the M-1 zone, this was previously taken care of by Petition Z-399 which just recently was approved by the City Council. After a brief discussion it was determined to take this item under advisement for further study. Mr. Walker: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak? Then this item will be taken under advisement. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Kane, it was #11-200-61 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the public hearing held on Tuesday, November 21, 1961 at approximately 8:30 p.m. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Samuels, Cameron, Greene, Angevine, Watson, Kane, Okerstrom and Walker NAYS: None Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. * * * * * * Mr. Walker called the 133rd Regular Meeting to order at approximately 6:31 p.m. with all those present now who were present at the time the public hearing was adjourned. 3329 • Mr. McCullough asked if Item #10 could be heard at this time. This item was a final ILapproval for Law-El Subdivision located on the south side of Meadowlark and east of Middlebelt Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 24. The developers, Gordon-Begin Realtors have been asked to supply deed restrictions so as to prohibit erecting de- tached garages on certain lots in said subdivision. Yr. McCullough stated Mr. Gordon was present but would like to have this item brought up now because he had another meeting to attend this evening. It was ascertained that two or three of the lots in said subdivision were already sold. There were no changes from the ^reliminary plat approval. Mr. Gordon stated he would be agreeable to the following being.written on the face of the final plat: "Pursuant to the provisions of Section 15 of Act 265, 1931, as amended, it is agreed by and between the undersigned that the Gordon-Begin Investment Co. , its successors, assigns of Lots 4 through 13 in Law-E1 Subdivision are prohibited from erecting detached garages on these lots, unless such garages can be erected without the necessity of requesting a variance to reduce yard requirements. This restriction and limitation shall have the same force of law and be enforceable in the same manner as the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Livonia." Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Watson, it was #11-201-61 RESOLVED that, final plat of the Lacer-El Subdivision located in ILO' the Southwest 1/4 of Section 24 be given final approval, subject, however, to the following being designated on the face of the final plat: "Pursuant to the provisions of Section 15 of Act 285, 1931, as amended, it is agreed by and between the undersigned that the Gordon-Begin Investment Co. , its successors, assigns of Lots 4 through 13 in Law-El Subdivision are prohibited from erecting detached garages on these lots, unless such garages can be erected without the necessity of requesting a variance to reduce yard requirements. This restriction and limitation shall have the same force of law and be enforceable in the same manner as the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Livonia." FURTHER RESOLVED, inasmuch as it appears on the records that tentative approval of said proposed plat was given by the City Planning Commission under date of June 18, 1957; August 18, 1958; and July 21, 1959; and it further appearing that said proposed plat together with the plans and specifications for improvements therein have been approved by the Department of Public Works under date of March 1i, 1960; and it further appearing that a cash bond in the amount of $300.00 and a surety bond in the amount of $2,100.00 IL to cover the installation of improvements have been filed in the office of the City Clerk under date of October 30, 1961; such bonds having been approved by Charles J. Pinto, City Attorney on November 1, 1961 it would therefore appear that all the conditions necessary to the release of the building permits have been met and the Build- ing Department is hereby so notified. 3330 ILA roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Samuels, Cameron, Greene, Angevine, Watson, Kane, Okerstrom and Walker NAYS: None Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is the approval of proposed deed restrictions agreement prepared by the Department of Law for Lyndon Meadows #4 and #5 located in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 23. Mr. McCullough informed those present that he had been notified that the bond for said subdivision had not been filed as yet, consequently this item along with Item #9, requesting final approval for Lyndon Meadows #4 and #5, should be removed from the agenda. They will be scheduled for a later meeting. Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-528 by Charles Allen on behalf of W. & M. Mangold for a change of zoning on property located on the north side of Seven Mile Road approximately 350 ft. East of Middlebelt Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 1 from RUFB to C-2. Public Hearing 11/7/61, item taken under advisement. Mr. Charles Allen, Sr. and Jr. were present. They informed the commission that the petitioner already had two tenants for the proposed shopping center. There would be Lapproximately ten stores if a large concern did not go in. If a large concern went in, it would reduce the number of small stores. Mr. Walker questioned if this area could use additional commercial zoning considering the recent developments in that area. He stated that a few years ago there was a grocery business on the southeast corner of Middlebelt and Seven Mile Road which did not succeed. It was then leased to the Spiegel, Inc. On Middlebelt Road, south of Seven Mile Road, there is a professional building with four offices of which only two are occupied. At the present time there are two stores boarded up in the shopping center on the southwest corner and just very recently Tom's Market went out of the food business into wholesale business. All this seems to indicate that there is no need for further development of commercial area in this location. Mr. Walker continued by stating that on the northwest corner the commercial area had been increased at three different times with another request before the Planning Commission at this time. We have been led to believe that possiLlv there was to be a Sears store in this area but just recently according to the ne,7spapers, this is not true. We are wondering if this rezoning to commercial is just for speculation. Mr. Charles Allen, Sr. , stated that their request is not for speculation. They have two tenants already slated for their shopping center. Also a portion of one of the lots in the petitions is already zoned C-2. Mr. Allen, Jr. , stated that the property is land locked and could not be platted due to the creek. At the time we submit p; • ns f _ t::c sho^ping center, approval will have to be obtained from the Engineering Department as to the size of the crock and also,if it is determined it is necessary to relocate, approval will have to be obtained from said department. Mr. Allen further stated that nothing will be built until first class tenants were obtained. If it is possible to acgilire the corner, it will be fitted into our present plans. 1[0 Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Angevine, supported by Mr. Kane, it was 3331 #11-202-61 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on IL Tuesday, November 7, 1961 on Petition Z-528 as submitted by Charles Allen on behalf of W. & M. Mangold for a change of zoning in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 1 from RUFB to C-2, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition Z-528 be granted for the following reasons: (1) the Planning Commission has previously set a policy of encouraging the use of land at mile road intersections for commercial purposes particularly where shopping centers rather than strip type commercial can be accommodated; (2) its location with reference to the proposed and existing commercial facilities on the other three corners of this inter- section preclude its use for residential purposes. FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the official newspaper, The Livonia City Post under date of October 18, 1961 and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison Co. , Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone Co. , The Consumers Power Company, City Departments and petitioners as listed in the Proof of Service. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Samuels, Greene, Angevine, Watson, Kane, Okerstrom LandWalker NAYS: Cameron Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Mr. Mc Cullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-530 by the City Planning Commission on their own motion to determine whether or not to rezone property located on the northwest corner of Seven Mile Road and Middlebelt Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 2 from RUFB and R-1A to C-2. Public Hearing 11/7/61, item taken under advisement. Mr. McCullough stated at the last meeting the question was raised as to how certain property fronting on Purlingbrook could be utilized. He presented a sketch of a proposed street layout on this property to the commission. This was property that was not included in the rezoning. Mr. McCullough informed the commission that with regardto the newspaper article about two Sears Roebuck stores being designated for Warren and Roseville, he did not think that this necessarily would preclude a Sears store in Livonia. It is possible that the owner of this property did have another tenant. Mr. Watson asked if there was anything concrete about what was going to be built upon this property. He felt that the owner should come before the Planning Commission with some details. Mr. McCullough asked if the Commission would like to have the owner present to see what he has in mind. Mr. Samuels felt that this property would never be used for residential, it is a logical area for commercial uses. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Cameron, it was 3332 #11-203-61 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on Tuesday, November 7, 1961 on Petition Z-530 as submitted by the City Planning Commission, on its own motion, for a change of zoning in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 2 from RUFB and R-1A to C-2, the City Planning Commissbn does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition Z-530 be granted for the following reasons: (1) the Planning Commission has previously set a policy of encouraging the use of land at mile road intersections for commercial purposes particularly where shopping centers rather than strip type commercial can be accommodated; (2) the location of this property with reference to the proposed and existing commercial facilities on the other three corners of this intersection preclude its use for residential purposes; FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the official newspaper, The Livonia City Post on November 1, 1961 and notice of which hearing was sent to the Detroit Edison Co. , Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone Co. , The Consumers Power Company, City Departments and petitioner as listed in the Proof of Service. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Samuels, Cameron, Greene, Angevine, Kane and ' Walker NAYS: Watson and Okerstrom Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Cameron and unanimously adopted, it was #11-204-61 RESOLVED that, final plat of the Meri-Lynn Farms Subdivision #5 located in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 22 be given final approval, and FURTHER RESOLVED, inasmuch as it appears on the records that tentative approval of said proposed plat was given by the City Planning Commission on April 3, 1956 and October 20, 1959; and it further appearing that said proposed plat together with the plans and specifications for improvements therein have been approved by the Department of Public Works under date of November 4, 1959; and it further appearing that a bond in the L . amount of #22,000,00, pursuant to Council's Res. #730-61 and #796-61 to cover the installation of improvements has been filed in the office of the City Clerk under date of November 16, i9bi; such bond having been approved by Charles J. Pinto, City Attorney on November 20, 1961 it would therefore appear that all the conditions necessary to the release of building permits have been met and the Building Department is hereby so notified. Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. 3333 Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Kane and unanimously ILadopted,it was #11-205-61 RESOLVED that, final plat of the Kimberly Oaks Subdivision #2 located in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 22 be given final approval, and FURTHER RESOLVED, inasmuch as it appears on the records that tentative approval of said proposed plat was given by the City Planning Commission on November 10, 1959; and it further appearing that said proposed plat together with the plans and specifications for improvements therein have been approved by the Department of Public Works under date of October 20, 1962; and it further appearing that a bond in the amount of $25,000.00, pursuant to City Council's Resolutions #758-61 and #790-61, to cover the installation of im- provements has been filed in the office of the City Clerk under date of November 21, 1961; such bond having been approved by R. C. Kropf, City Attorney on November 21, 1961 it would therefore appear that all the conditions necessary to the release of building permits have been met and the Building Department is hereby so notified. Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is a request from Truman Strong dated November 9, 1961 for a determination as to whether or not a beauty parlor may be considered a professional occupation as interpreted in Section IL9.52 PS Regulations. Mr. Truman Strong explained that he had a building located on the corner of Kendall and Merriman approximately 402 ft. north of Schoolcraft consisting of four units. Three of the units faced Kendall, the remaining one faced Merriman. This unit was next door to a party store south of his building. It was this unit facing Merriman which he would like to use for beauty parlor purposes. He stated he was having difficulty in renting 80% of his building. At the present time he had only one tenant. The units facing Kendall were laid out for adoctor's use, but the one facing Merriman Road was not. Mr. Walker stated that it was the Planning Commission's intention at the time the PS zone was created to only include those uses which were professional and prohibit any commercial use. Mr. Okerstrom informed Mr. Strong that the immediate vicinity of his building hadn't been developed as yet to any extent. He felt with the commercial immediately across the street from Mr. Strong's building and also immediately south of his building that this would no doubt bring in more business to the extent that in the very near future Mr. Strong would not have any difficulty in renting his units for professional use. Mr. Angevine stated that it was not the intent of the Planning Commission or the City Council that a beauty parlor or any other commercial type of business be con- ': sidered a professional service. He continued by stating that the Planning Commission was not discussing just one commercial use but in affect they were discussing all commercial uses. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Angevine, supported by Mr. Okerstrom and unanimously adopted, it was #11-206-61 RESOLVED that, acting pursuant to authority vested in it by Section 9.52 (b) of the Zoning Ordinance, the City Planning Commission does 3334 hereby determine that beauty parlors are not included within 1[40 professional uses. This conclusion is supported by the fact that beauty parlors are included in C-1 and C-2 zones. It has the characteristics of the commercial as opposed to professional use. Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Mr. McCullough: The next item is a motion to rezone certain property in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 27 from M-1 to M-2. I have been instructed that those people who own industrial land and desire a change of zoning, should request the change in the usual manner by filing a petition and paying the regular zoning fee instead of requesting the Planning Commission to do so on their own motion. Because of this, this item should be removed from the agenda. Mr. Walker: This item is taken off the agenda ns suggested by Mr. McCullough. Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition M-233 by Jack Shenkman asking permission to have a private educational institution on property located on the north side of Seven Mile Road between Osmus and Auburndale in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 3. Public Hearing 11/7/61, item taken under advisement; study meeting 11/14/61. Mr. Shenkman asked for a two week delay at the time of the public hearing. LSince that time he asked for another delay until the 28th of November. Late this afternoon he called again and said that he was trying to negotiate for two separate parcels and because of this would like to request a post- pcuement until the 12th of December. He said he would forward a letter with this request. It was determined that those persons who had objected to the petition at the public hearing would be informed as to when this item will be acted upon. Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is proposed Newburgh Heights Subdivision located on the Northeast corner of Newburgh and Five Mile Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 18. Submitted by J. Menuck, Oakview Homes, Inc. Public Hearing held on October 17, 1961, item taken under advisement until the question of the fire station site had been determined by the City Council. Mr. J. Menuck, Mr. D. Goldman, Attorney and Mr. B. Warner, Warner & Warner, were all present. Mr. Goldman informed the commission that Mr. Drost, Director of Public Safety had indicated that the city was interested in the fire station site and it is to be on the City Council's agenda for the meeting a week from tomorrow which will be on Nov- ember 29th. Mr. Menuch has requested that the City Planning Commission consider 1[40 two schemes of Newburgh Heights Subdivision, one with the proposed fire station site and another without the site. Mr. Walker stated that Mr. Drost had asked him if the Planning Commission would postpone action until such t'me t Council has acted upon the question of the fire station site. He promised —twat RE would make an effort to get a definite answer from them one way or the other. In lieu of this, Mr. Walker continued, he felt that if this was rushed through and went on to the council the developer might run into trouble. 3335 ILMr. Menuck asked how long was a short time? Mr. Walker asked if they would be willing to give them until the next meeting scheduled for the 28th of November. By that time the Council should have decided on the fire station site. Mr. Goldman stated they had no alternative but to wait. He urged the Planning Commission to take action at tonight's meeting. Suggested a resolution of approval contingent upon the decision of the city council. Mr. Watson asked if the Planning Commission could approve the plat holding Lots 1 through 10 in abeyance because of this situation? Mr. Samuels asked how rapidly would the Council act on whether they want the site or not? Mr. McCullough answered by stating the council could give them an answer this week. Mr. Goldman stated that there were two sites the Council was interested in. The question was which one they wanted. If the site in the proposed Newburgh Heights Subdivision is taken then they would have to discuss the matter of money. They had submitted a proposal to the City Council but nothing has been decided. Mr. Kane asked if the Planning Commission had discussed the subdivision as yet. If there is anything about the subdivision that the Planning Commission did not like and ILOL the developer had to come back with changes or a revised plat, this would delay them again. He felt that the Planning Commission should make their comments on the plat tonight. Mr. Walker concurred with Mr. Kane. M . Angevine stated that he didn't see why the plat could not be approved with the stipulation that certain lots not be built upon until it has been determined that a site for a fire station is needed. Mr. McCullough stated that as long as you are going to discuss the plat, there is the question of access drives along Five Mile and Newburgh Roads. The developer has indicated he can not go along with access drives. Also, Mr. McCullough, continued, there is the question of those lots having a depth of less than 100 ft. I would assume that they will attached garages. Regarding the question of access roads, unless tese nare required, property owners of mile road lots will eventually demand commercial onig Mr. Goldman stated that they could put an agreement on the plat that they will have attached garages on those lots where they are less than 100 ft. Mr. McCullough stated there were other problemswith this plat . Cne was in relation to the number of intersections into the mile roads from the subdivision. And, along Newburgh Road there were three that he felt did not have the 90° angle necessary. He felt that this could be hazardous. ILMr. Warner stated that they had tried every possible arrangement and this was the most satisfactory. Mr. Watson asked if it were possible to revise the lots adjacent to Newburgh so that the driveways would be farther away from the intersections? Mr. Menuck answered that the house on these lots could be arranged in a different way but they have found out that the buyer prefers his driveway nearer to the inter- section than his bedrooms. 3336 Mr. McCullough stated that when Newburgh becomes a heavily traveled road it will 11[: be a good idea not to have the driveways where they are. Mr. Menuck stated that Mr. Warner has determined that every driveway is about 50 ft. away from the property lines. Mr. Cameron asked how the garages would be situated on the lots siding on Five Mile Road? Mr. Menuck and Mr. Warner showed him the detailed drawing of these specific lots. Mr. Kane questioned how this will look along Newburgh with respect to those lots that don't really face or side on Newburgh but are angled? Another question raised by Mr. Kane was in reference to a developer coming in to develop the land north of this proposed plat. Will he be made to put in the access drives and the lots so that they have right angles? Mr. Warner did not think that the way the plat was laid out would make it lock un- attractive along Newburgh Road. He felt that these lots along Newburgh as they are platted would afford much better use of the land for the purchaser of the lot. He personally felt there was nothing wrong with the plataesthetically. Mr. Green thought that Mr. Kane had a good point, while this is fine for this piece of land what is going to happen to the land north of this plat? Mr. Angevine stated no matter what pattern is determined with this plat, it should be followed by the other developer. l[w Mr. Greene stated if the Planning Commission approves this plat as is, it is setting a pattern. Previously we have more or less made a policy of having access roads along mile roads. If we forget about it for this plat, we will have to forget about it for the other land. Mr. Watson stated that the size of the plat would have a lot to do with how it would be laid out. Mr. Goldman stated he didn't feel that the policy of access drives was being followed rigidly in Livonia. Mr. McCullough informed Mr. Goldman it has for the past three years. Mr. Goldman felt that you would find more streets without access drives in Livonia than with access drives. Mr. Greene stated that Newburgh would look very pecular with this proposed subdivision not having any access drives and the future subdivision north of it having them. Mr. Warner felt that since Newburgh was a highway it wouldn't detract from its appearance at all. I: Mr. Greene stated he was not talking about the appearance, he was talking about the functioning of the access drives. Mr. Walker stated if the Commission felt they would like to act on this matter tonight they could possibly do this by approving the plat with the proposed fire station site designated thereon and in the event the City Council did not wish to acquire the site, the developer could come back to the Planning Commission at a later date and have the proposed plat without the fire: station site approved. IL: 3337 Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Samuels, supported by Mr. Watson, it was #11-207-61 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on Tuesday, October 17, 1961, the City Planning Commission does hereby give approval to the preliminary plat of the Newburgh Heights Subdivision located on the northwest corner of Newburgh and Five Mile Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 18, subject, however, to the following: (1) that Lots 1 through 10 be included until such time that the City Council has detexm inedif said lots are going to be used for a proposed fire station site, and (2) that the developer will file a deed, restriction simultaneously with the final plat agreeing hever to erect detached garages on those lots with depth of less than 105 feet, FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the abutting property owners, proprietor, City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service and copies of the plat together with notice having been sent to the Building Department, Superintendent of Schools, Fire Department, Police Department, Parks & Recreation a Department and Members of the Plat Committee. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Samuels, Angevine, Watson, Kane, Okerstrom and Walker NAYS: Cameron and Greene Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Mr. McCullough stated the next item was with regard to the annual Christmas party. He stated Mr. Angevine had purchased the tickets for the members of the Planning Commission and their guests for a performance at the new Fisher Theatre. Plans were also made to make reservations for dinner after the performance at a nearby restaurant. The secretary was requested to notify and invite the Mayor and Mrs. Brashear. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Watson and unanimously adopted, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the 133rd Regular Meeting at approximately 9:45 p.m. on Tuesday, November 21, 1961. CITY PLANNING COMMISSION („e W. E. Okerstrom, Secretary ATTTED: GU• Cv a-/--