HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1960-12-13 3045
MINUTES OF THE 124TH SPECIAL MEETING
OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
z CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, December 13, 1960 the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia
held the 124th Special Meeting at the Livonia City Hall, 33001 Five Mile Road,
Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Charles W. Walker, Chairman called the Special Meeting to
order at approximately 8:05 p.m.
Members present: Leonard K. Kane, W. E. Okerstrom, Robert M. Peacock, James
Cameron, Robert L. Greene, James Watson, Jr. , and
Charles W. Walker.
Members absent: **Dennis Anderson , ::: . Robert L. Angevine and William R.
Robinson.
Mr. David R. McCullough, City Planner was present along with two interested persons
in the audience.
Mr. McCullough: The first item on the agenda is a request dated November
18, 1960 from Jared Builders, Inc. for a year's extension
on the Ellen Kay Subdivision located between Middlebelt Road and Harrison on the
North side of Five Mile Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 13. Preliminary
approval granted January 19, 1960.
The question was raised as to whether or not one of the streets in the subdivision
would remain a dead-end street as shown on the plat, or would it eventually con-
tinue to Harrison? It was thought that because of the proposed convalescent home
east of the subdivision the street would not be able to go through to Harrison.
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It was decided that Mr. McCullough would look into this question and report at the
next meeting.
Mr. Walker: This item will be taken under advisement.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#12-250-60 RESOLVED that, final plat of the Meadowview Subdivision #4 located
in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 20 be given final approval, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, inasmuch as it appears on the records that
tentative approval o.E said proposed plat was given by the City
Planning Commission on December 15, 1959; and it further appearing
that said proposed plat together with the plans and specifications
for improvements therein have been approved by the Department of
Public Works under date of January 18, 1960; and it further appearing
that a bond in the amount of $2,000.00 to cover the installation
of improvements has been filed in the office of the City Clerk
under date of November 30, 1960; such bond having been approved
by C. J. Pinto, Assistant City Attorney on December 5, 1960 it
would therefore appear that all the conditions necessary to the
release of building permits have been met/tle Building Department
Ir. is hereby so notified.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Cameron, Peacock, Greene, Kane, Okerstrom and Walker
NAYS: None
NOT VOTING: Watson
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Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
**Mr. Anderson arrived at approximately 8:10 p.m.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#12-251-60 RESOLVED that, final plat of Kimberly Park Subdivision located
in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 22 be given final approval, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, inasmuch as it appears on the records that
tentative approval of said propsed plat was given by the City
Planning Commission on November 22, 1960; and it further
appearing that said proposed plat together with the plans and
specifications for improvements therein have been approved by
the Department of Public Works under date of November 28, 1960;
it would therefore appear that all the conditions necessary
to the release of building permits have been met and the
Building Department is hereby so notified.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Kane, Peacock, Greene, Anderson, Kane, Okerstrom and Walker
NAYS: None
NOT VOTING: Watson
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is the proposed Tall Trees
Subdivision► located on the Northwest corner of Curtis
and Wayne Roads in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 8. Sub-
mitted by William Lindhout. Public Hearing held on Tuesday, November 22, 1960.
Item taken under advisement until letter from Fire Department was received, in
relation to the dead end street in the subdivision. Letter has been received.
The question of the continuation of Van Road was discussed. It was determined
that Van Road if continued in the future, could very well be curved slightly so as
to allow a tier of lots before reaching Curtis Road.
It was also stated that the drainage matter would have to be taken care of between
the developer and the Engineering Department of the City.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, supported by Mr. Anderson, it was
#12-252-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, ?:rvcrber 22, 1960 the City Planning Commission does
hereby give approval to the preliminary plat of the Tall Trees
Subdivision located in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 8, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the
ri abutting property owners, proprietor, City Departments as
listed in the Proof of Service and copies of the plat together
with notice having been sent to the Building Department, Super-
intendent of Schools, Fire Department, Police Department, Parks
& Recreation Department and Members of the Plat Committee.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
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AYES: Cameron, Peacock, Greene, Anderson and Walker .
NAYS: Kane and Okerstrom
NOT VOTING: Watson
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Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
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Mr. McCullough: The next. item on the ocenda is a report on parking shortage
along Plymouth Road, which if approved, can be forwarded to
the City Council.
There was a very lengthy discussion on the parking problem along Plymouth Road. Mr.
McCullough submitted a map to the Commission designating the lots presently vacant
which could be purchased and used as parking lots. It was determined that a report
would be forwarded to the City Council.
Mr. Walker also stated it would be wise to inform the Council that if Plymouth
Road is widened into a six lane highway, that the lots purchased for parking
facilities for present use may not take care of the parking after the road is
widened. The widening would place a number of the present businesses up to the
right-cf,vay.
Mr. McCullough stated he would compile the report and forward it to the City Council.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is the nomination for Vice-
Chairman of the Planning Commission. This is due to the
resignation of Mr. William R. Robinson. which will become effective at the time
Mr. James Watson takes his oath of acceptance.
Mr. Okerstrom nominated Mr. Robert L. Angevine for Vice-Chairman.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. qreene, supported by Mr. Peacock, ::nd adopted
unanimously, with the exception of Mr. Watson, who abstained from voting, the
nominations for Vice-Chairman were closed.
Mr. Walker: Mr. An6ovine has been elected Vice-Chairman by acclamation.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition V-57 which is
a request to vacate the east/west alley south of Plymouth
Road between Inkster and Arcola in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 36. The Chairman
has asked that this be brought back for further discussion - action was taken
at the meeting held on Tuesday, November 22, 1960.
Mi . Walker asked Mr. Okerstrom to read the letter dated November 15, 1960 from the
Engineering Department of the City. Mr. Okerstrom complied.
Mr. Walker: I have exercised the Chairman's prerogative to bring this
matter back on our agenda.
If the vacating is approved, an easement will be established
for the utility companies. You are familiar with this
I: parcel of land; because of the shallowness of the depth of
this parcel there will be a problem to develop it into
commercial use. At present we have this petition of the
proposed gas station which presents three problems:
(1) as to the vacating of the alley;
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(2) as to the relocation of the wall;
(3) and whether or not we want to agree on the use
of this land for a gas station.
We have to work out some agreement as to what we are going
to allow. We have to allow the owner to use his property
in some manner. The immediate problem is that of the
vacation of the alley. It seems that the vacating and the
locating of the wall are two items we have not agreed on.
This has been brought back in order to determine if we want
to rescind our action taken on Tuesday, November 22nd, 1960
which denied the vacating of the alley. It has not been
forwarded to the City Council as yet.
Mr. Greene: If the Engineering Department srys they will need an
easement equal to the width of the alley, where will it be
located?
Mr. McCullough: The easement will be put on the gas station property , in
the same location the dedicated alley now occupies.
• Mr. Walker: When the gas station is developed, the wall will be erected
lk ft. on the residential property, which would leave
the full 20 ft. easement facing the commercial property
from the wall. There is a north/south easement that comes
up to it. Have we heard from the utilities on this?
Mr. McCullough: We have written but no word has been received from them as
yet?
Mr. Anderson: All this property is owned by one party. The remaining
property is a small area. With our parking requirements,
only one business would probably be able to use this
property.
Mr. McCullough: The owner has offered to build a hard-burned brick wall
along the entire length from Inkster to Arcola.
Mr.Okerstrom: Lot #147 (residential) could be saved for parking for
future commercial.
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Mr. Anderson: I feel that the developer shodd provide for parking without
using any residential property.
Mr. Watson: There are two gas stations at the intersection now. One
uses 6 lots, another 7 lots; why a problem with this
one vt.en there wasn't with the other two?
Mr. Walker: One of these gas stations is in Redford; and as for the
other one, it may be that the requirements were different
at the time he was given permission to erect his station.
In this particular case the developer weeded more room for
IL: • turn because of the placement of the pumps.
Mr. Peacock: I would like to request that n:J action be taken until I
have examined this area again; I am not satisfied that
th, alley should be vacated.
There was further discussion as to whether et not it is necessary to vacate the
alley.
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L Could the property be used for commercial use without having to vacate the alley?
It was determined that because the gas station was going to have more than two
pumps, it was necessary for the developer to use the property in the alley in
order to have sufficient room for turning for the pump located near this area.
Mr. Walker: I suggest that Mr. McCullough look into this further and
advise us what this land is limited to as to Commercial
use and whether or not this lot can be used without the
vacating of the alley or not. With the 40 ft. set back
and increased parking requirements I am not sure if for
future development of this property it may be necessary
to vacate the alley.
Mr. Peacock: What would happen if Plymouth Road is widened?
Mr. Walker: The need for the vacating of the alley would be more
needed then.
The Chair will rule that this will be tab led until we
hear from the City Planner.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Peacock and unanimously
adopted the City Planning Commission duly adjourned the 124th Special Meeting at
approximately 8:50 p.m. on Tuesday, December 13, 1960.
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CI!?W. E. Okerstrom, Secretary
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Cha es W. Walker, Chairman