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MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND
THE 116TH REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, June 21, 1960, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia held
a Public Hearing and the 116th Regular Meeting at the Livonia City Hall, 33001 Five
Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan. Mr. H.Paul Harsha, Vice-Chairman called the Regular
Meeting to order at approximately 8:10 p.m in the absence of Mr. R. L. Angevine,
Chairman.
Members present: Robert M. Peacock, Charles Walker, Leonard K. Kane, H. Paul
Harsha, Dennis Anderson and Robert L. Greene
Members absent: Robert L. Angevine, Wilfrod Okerstrom and William R. Robinson
Mr. David R. McCullough, City Planner and Mr. Charles J. Pinto, Assistant City
Attorney were present along with approximately 75 interested persons in the audience.
Mr. Marsha explained that the 116th Regular Meeting was being opened first this
evening due to a number of people being present in the audience for the first item.
After this item has been heard, the public hearing will be opened and the regular
meeting will be continued thereafter.
Mr. McCullough: The first item on the agenda is a request from the
City Council dated March 31, 1960 asking the City Planning Commission to reconsider
• Petition M-183, Redford-Livonia Dad's Club located on the West side of Inkster and
Nbrth of Joy Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 36. Petition was denied by the
City Planning Commission on February 16, 1960.
There is no uew evidence from either side. I beve
informed both sides that they will not be allowed to
speak unless the Planning Commission permits them to do
so. This is simply a request from the City Council for
the Planning Commission to reconsider it's previous
denial.
Mr. Greene: Did the Council give any reason for asking for a re-
consideration?
Mr. McCullough: No.
Mr. Angevine arrived at approximately 8:12 p.m.
Mr. Harsha: Have any of the departments changed their viewpoints
or is there any new correspondence?
Mr. McCullough: No.
Mr. Clarence Charest: I am here on behalf of the surrounding property owners
33636 Five Mile Rd.) who objected to the proposed use.
Mr.Harsha: With the permission of the commission, you will be
allowed to speak for three minutes.
Mr. Charest• For the purposes of the record on behalf of the
residents surrounding this area, we have reviewed the
proceedings of the meeting held previously at which
time you denied this petition and have also reviewed
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the existing ordinance, Section 5.02 (j) which reads:
(Mr. Charest read said section)
Mr. Okerstrom arrived at approximately 8:14 p.m.
We feel that the proposed uses will violate this
ordinance and will be a nuisance to the surrounding
area. We wish to state our position as stated before
this commission previously that we are very much opposed
to the granting of this petition. We concur with the
various departments' recommendations that this be
denied.
Mr. Greene: Do we have to make a resolution not to reconsider?
Mr. McCullough: You might want to grant the opposition time to speak
at this time.
M. . Greene: I would still like an answer to my question.
Mr. Pinto: The City Council requested you to reconsider this
matter. As a matter of courtesy you should answer the
Council's request one way or another.
Mr. Greene: Do we have to take a formal vote?
Mr.Pinto• The only way you can answer is by resolution.
Nr. Harsha: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak in favor
of this petition?
Mr. Wm. J. Krause: The president of the Council recommended that we come
9920 Garvett) back to you. We really need the field. You are the only
people who can help us. You all know the situation. We
are willing to do anything to stop noise as much as
possible. The closest house is 200 ft. from the baseball
diamond.
Mr. Greene: I would like to make a motion to adopt a resolution
that we do not change our previous vote on this matter
for the reason that there has been no change in the
arguments presented or in the recommendations from
the various City Departments that were involved. Is
that adequate?
Have we reconsidered it by hearing these arguments
tonight?
Mr. Pinto: It is a step in that direction.
Mr. McCullough: There is a map in your folders which shows it is a
smaller area than what was first presented.
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ro Wt. Greene: I would like to make a motion that we have/considered
this petition and we would like to repeat our previous
decision.
Mr. Pinto: Bach a resolution would be in order if the Commission
wishes to adopt same.
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Greene, supported by Mr. Angevine, it was
111 #6-123-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to resolution from the City Council dated
March 31, 1960 requesting the City Planning Commission to reconsider
Petition M-183 which was denied by the City Planning Commission on
Tuesday, February 16, 1960, the City Planning Commission having
reconsidered said petition and having determined that there has
been no substantial change of circumstances or conditions relating
thereto, does hereby deny said petition for the same reasons as
given in the previous resolution #2-22-60 adopted February 16,
1960 all of which reasons are incorporated herein by reference.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Greene, Angevine, Kane and Harsha
NAYS: None
NOT VOTING: Anderson and Okerstrom
Mr. Hareha: : The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. Harsha at this time relinquished the Chair to Mr. Angevine, Chairman.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Kane and unanimously
adopted, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the 116th Regular Meeting
until such time that the Public Hearing has been held.
Mr. Angevine called the Public Hearing to order at this time with all those present
who were present at the time the regular meeting was adjourned. •
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-449 by
Douglas G. McLaren who is asking that the zoning classification on property located
on the Northwest corner of Capitol and Inkster in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 25
be changed from R-1-B to P.
Mr. Douglas G. McLaren was present.
Mr. McCullough: We have a letter dated June 15, 1960 from the Elm
Civic Association representing the area objecting to
the proposed rezoning. They feel it would lower the
value of their homes.
This parking is for the Pine Lumber Company located on
the East side of Inkster in Redford .
Mr. Walker: How many homes between Capitol and Grantland facing
Inkster?
Mr. McCullough: I believe there are four or five. There are no homes
on the property in question.
Mr. Anderson: Any homes on the adjoining lots?
Ire Mr. McCullough: Only to the north.
Mr. Walker: What width are the lots on which the homes are built
upon and what type of use is there presently on Grantland
and Inkster?
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Mr. McCullough: The homes are built upon 40 ft. lots and there is
II] C-1 zoning on Grantland and Inkster which consists of
three 20 ft. lots.
Mr. Okerstrom: Is it your intent to black top this area?
Mr. McLaren: Yes, the same as across the street.
Mr. Peacock.: What lies directly north of you?
Mr. McLaren: A transit mix plant and a cement plant.
Mr. Walker: What is at the rear of these lots on Inkster? Is
there an easement or an alley?
It was determined there had an alley but it has been vacated. At the rear of these
lots there is a new subdivision.
Mr. Anderson: Do the homes on Inkster belong to the subdivision?
It was determined that this was true.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Mrs. Margaret Gniewek: I am the secretary of the Elm Civic Association and I
12010 Cavell) would like to bring out the fact that there is spot
zoning on both ends of our subdivision on Inkster and
this present request for rezoning would occur in the
middle. Each time there is a new request for rezoning
in this area they refer to the spot zoning on Grantland
and it is used as an excuse for the present request.
There is a traffic problem in this area. Capitol is a
one way street going west. Any traffic coming out of
this parking lot would have to be routed through our
subdivision. Wadsworth is used for the people coming
from General Motors Fisher Body. We had these streets
changed to one way. This spot zoning is eating away
into our subdivision and we feel the new homes will lose
out.
Mr. Clarence Rapp: I live right across the street from this area to be
12191 Inkster Road) rezoned. I am certainly opposed to this change.
Mr. Okerstrom: I personally feel that the traffic talked about tonight
is strictly from the factories surrounding this area.
This lot is for one particular business and there would
be no ingress or egress along Inkster Road. It has been
stated that the residents are being crowded out on
Inkster. I feel Inkster is beoming commercial right
along.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, it was
#6- -60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Petition Z-449 as submitted by Douglas G. McLaren for a change
of zoning in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 25 from R-1-B to P,
the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City
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Council that Petition Z-449 be granted on the following condition:
(1) that the petitioner agrees to blacktop the lot,
This approval ought not to prove detrimental to surrounding
residential uses and ought to improve the aesthetics of the
neighborhood in that it is presently overgrown with weeds,
Mr. Greene: Is there going to be a buffer between this and the adjoining
homes?
Mr. McLaren: We will put in a greenbelt or a fence.
Mr. Greene: Is a greenbelt necessary for this use.
Mr. Pinto: When the parking zone abuts residential there has to
be a greenbelt of not less than five feet, not more
than eight feet.
Mr. Okerstrom: I would like to amend my resolution.
#6- -60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Petiton Z-449 by Douglas G. McLaren for a change of zoning
in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 25 from R-1-B to P, the City
Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council
that Petition Z-449 be granted for the reason that said
approval ought not to prove detrimental to surrounding
residential uses and ought to improve the aesthetics of the
neighborhood in that it is presently overgrown with weeds, sub-
ject, however, to the following conditions:
(1) that the petitioner agrees to blacktop the lots,
(2) that the petitioner provides an eight (8) foot greenbelt between
his area and the residential area.
Mr. Angevine: There being no support to your resolution, it therefore
dies for lack of support.
Mr. Greene: Do we have any recommendation from the Traffic
Commission?
Mr. McCullough: If you would like to take this under advisement until
the next meeting, I will obtain this information from
the Traffic Department.
Mr. Kane: I have no objection to this use but this is a very
bad street to cross. That is my objection.
Mr. Greene: This is my reason for asking a recommendation from the
traffic Commission.
110 Mr. Angevine: This item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-451 by Arthur
M. Karey, Vice-Chancellor of the Roman Catholic Arch-
diocese of Detroit, is asking that the zoning classification on property located
on the West side of Newburgh Road, approximately 521 feet South of Five Mile Road
in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 19 be changed from C-2 to R-1-A.
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The reason for this request is that the Archdiocese
wishes to erect a church, etc. , on this property. They
need the R-1-A zone for this use.
Mr. Walker: This is the area we originally rezoned for a large
business center? Will it leave any C-2 zone?
Mr. McCullough: Yes, approximately 10 acres.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#6-124-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Petition Z-451 by Arthur M. Karey, Vice-Chancellor of the
Roman Catholic Archiocese of Detroit for a change of zoning
in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 19 be changed from C-2 to
R-1-A, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to
the City Council that Petition Z-451 be granted for the reason
that this will enable the land owner to erect a residential
use in connection with a proposed church which is not possible
under commercial zoning, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in
the official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of June 1, 1960
and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison Co. ,
Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone Co. , The
Consumers Power Co. , City Departments and petitioner as listed
in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Harsha: Do they own the property?
Mr. McCullough: The petition states an agreement of purchase; the
agreement is probably subject to the rezoning being
obtained.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Greene, Harsha, Anderson, Okerstrom, Kane
and Angevine
NAYS: None
MY . Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-452 by Bernard
Krause who is asking that the zoning classification on property located on the West
side of Harrison, approximately 160 feet North of Joy Road, in the Southwest 1/4 of
Section 36, be changed from C-2 to R-3-A.
Mr. Bernard Krause was present.
1[4, Mr. Krause: We want to improve the property. It is presently an
eyesore. We expect to follow all requirements.
Mr. Greene: Do me see a plot plan on R-3?
Mr. Angevine: We were going to require this in our current ordinance.
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Mr. McCullough:IE Mr. Krause, would you provide us with a sketch or
drawing how you plan to lay this area out?
Mr. Krause agreed.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
This item will be taken under advisement until the
next meeting.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-446 by Donald
Deremo on behalf of Paul F. Miller, et al, is asking
that the zoning classification on property located on the Northwest corner of
Middlebelt and Munger, approximately 450 feet South of Six Mile Road in the North-
east 1/4 of Section 14, be changed from RUFB to C-2.
Mr. Donald Deremo was present.
Mr. Deremo: There are two houses existing on property in question.
Mr. McCullough: What do you intend to do with the existing homes if
it is rezoned?
Mr. Deremo: That is hard to say. It is our intention to build a
professional building on Lot #39. There is nothing
planned as yet for the lots on which the houses are
existing.
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Mr. Okerstrom: Are you representing a group of people?
Mr. Deremo: Yes, the owners have come in a group and I am repre-
senting them.
It was determined that a drive-in was on Lot #36 but that this lot had never been
rezoned for this use. It was non-conforming.
Mr. Greene: What is the small area behind the lots in question?
Mr. Deremo: This small area is used for school parking. (School
is located on Lot #35 immediately behind lots in
petition).
Mr. Greene: Wouldn't PS zoning be sufficient instead of C-2?
Mr. Deremo: It would be for one lot but maybe not for the remainder
of the lots. We may consider C-1 zoning.
Mr. Greene: I feel C-2 zoning is too broad a zone for that area.
I would rather see PS.
Mr. Deremo: The owners would prefer PS instead of the present RUF.
I: Mr. Greene: It would fit in with the area much better.
Mr. Peacock: Would your clients be willing to change their request
to read PS?
Mr. Deremo: Yes, they would be.
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Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
li: Mr. Walker: If we are seriously considering amending this petition
to read PS, wouldn't it constitute another public
hearing?
Mr. Okerstrom: We would be upgrading the zone. I cannot see why another
public hearing would be necessary.
Mr. Pinto: The public has been sufficiently informed there is to
be a change. The petitioner can amend his petition
and the Commission can act.
'3pon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Harsha, it was
#6-125-60 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby allow
Donald Deremo representing petitioners for Petition Z-446 to
amend said petition to read "RUFB to PS" instead of "RUFB to
C-2" as originally requested, subject, however, to a letter
being forwarded to the City Planning Commission confirming
said request.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Walker, Harsha, Greene, Anderson, Okerstrom, Kane and
Angevine
NAYS: Peacock
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
There was a general discussion at this time as to whether or not the existing homes
of the property could be used for professional use. It was Mr. Pinto's feeling
that as long as the owners complied with all codes and requirments specified by
the City, these homes could be used. The commission is dealing with the land and
not the house. Mr. Harsha concurred with Mr. Pinto.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Anderson and unanimously
adopted, it was
#6-126-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Petition Z-446 as submitted by Donald Deremo on behalf of
Paul F. Miller, et al for a change of zoning in the Northeast
1/4 of Section 14 from RUFB to PS, the City Planning Commission
does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition Z-446,
as amended by Res. #2-125-60, be granted for the reason that
(1) it is a logical buffer between the commercial to the
north and the residential to the south, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in
1[40 the official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of June 1st,
1960 and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison
Co. , Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone Co. ,
The Consumers Power Co. , City Departments and petitioners as
listed in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Angevine: Tte motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
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Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-448 by
Norman R. & Ethel Hildreth who are asking that the
zoning classification on property located on the East side of Parkville between
Bretton Road and Morlock Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 1, be changed from
RUF to R-1-A.
Mr. Norman Hildreth was present.
Mr. Hildreth: We are intending to build two residences on these lots.
Mr. McCullough: R-1-A was asked because there wasn't sufficient frontage
for RU.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#6-127-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Petition Z-448 as submitted by Norman R. & Ethel Hildreth who
are asking that the zoning classification of property in the
Northwest 1/4 of Section 1 be changed from RUF to R-1-A, the
City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City
Council that Petition Z-448 be granted for the reason that
the subject land faces other land which has already been split
into lots of the same size this applicant proposes to divide
his land namely, 60 x 300, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published
in the official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of June 1st,
1960 and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison
Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone
Co. , The Consumers Power Co. , City Departments and petitioners
as listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Greene, Anderson, Kane and Angevine
NAYS: Harsha and Okerstrom
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-450 by
Lawrence and Esther Hahn who are asking that the zoning
classification on property located on the West side of Brentwood, approximately 340
feet South of Seven Mile Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 12, be changed from
RUFB to R-1-A.
Mr. Hahn is present.
Mr. McCullough: This request is in order to have two lots 60 x 135 ft.
1[0 The general area is RUF but there are isolated lots of
R-1-A and R-1-B. Across the street they are zoned
R-1-B.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Greene and unanimously
adopted, it was
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#6-128-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Petition Z-450 by Lawrence and Esther Hahn for a change of zoning
in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 12 from RUFB to R-1-A, the City
Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council
that Petition Z-450 be granted for the reasons:
(1) that the property in question faces land which has been platted
into lots of 60 x 134 ft. ;
(2) the quality of the housing on surrounding properties is not such
as to justify larger lots, and
FURTHER RESOLVED notice of the above hearing was published in the
official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of June 1st, and
notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison Co. , Chesa-
peake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone Co. , The Consumers
Power Company, City Departments and petitioners as listed in the
Proof of Service.
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-455 by Charles
J. Van Zile who is asking that the zoning classification
on the property located on the Northwest corner of St. Martins and Parkville Avenue,
in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 1 be changed from RUF to RLA. Mrs. Van Zile is
present.
Mrs. Van Zile: We intend to split this lot into 4 separate lots facing
Parkville.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Mr. McCullough: The petitioner should be advised if it is intended to
split this lot 5 times, it will be necessary to plat
it which means there will be a fee connected with it.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Okerstrom, it was
#6-129-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Petition Z-455 as submitted by Charles J. Van Zile for a change
of zoning in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 1 from RUF to R LA, the
City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council
that Petition Z-455 be granted for the reason:
(1) that the larger lots are consistent with surrounding lot sizes,
and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the
official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of June 1st, 1960
IL and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison Company,
Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone Company,
The Consumers Power Co. , City Departments and petitioner as listed
in the Proof of Service.
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A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Greene, Harsha, Anderson, Okerstrom, Kane and Angevine
NAYS: Peacock and Walker
W. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-456 by the
City Planning Commission on its own motion, pursuant to
City Council's Resolution #134-60, to determine whether or not Section 4.05 of
Article 4.00 of the Zoning Ordinance, Ordinance No. 60 should be amended so as to
change the 60 foot minimum lot sizes, now existing in Section 20, to 70 feet.
This came to the Planning Commission as a request from
the City Council to hold a public hearing. I believe
there is one person in the audience who wishes to speak.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Mrs. Emil Lewis: I would like to see 70 ft. lots prevail in Section 20.
14450 Levan Road) Houses are wider today and there is less space between
the homes. This would avoid crowding them on a 60
ft. lot.
Mr. Steve Polgar: I am representing Mr. J.Coleman of the Unity Construction
15420 Farmington) Company Most of the section excluding the hospital
IC] and school property is already platted into 60 foot
lots. I feel that 70 foot lots would be contradictory
to the entire area. (Mr. Polgar presented a sketch of
Section 20 depicting the area already platted into
60 foot lots, the hospital and school property and that
which had not been platted as yet.)
Mrs. Lewis: Eleven years ago all this property was platted into
10 acre parcels. Now they are being crowded into 60
ft. lots.
Mr. Frank Ross: This section should be changed to 70 ft. lots. I
35564 Schoolcraft) agree with Mrs. Lewis. Lots of 60 ft. width are not
large enough for the homes they build today.
Mr. Peacock: I suggest that this item be taken under advisment for
further study.
Mr. Angevine: This item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition V-55 by Marvin
M. Bresoff, et al, who is requesting the alley between
Rensellor Avenue and Inkster Road and adjacent to Lots 530 through 541 in the
Botsford Park Subdivision in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 1, be vacated. Letters
have been received from the Michigan Bell Telephone Co. , dated June 10, 1960 and
from The Consumers Power Company and the Detroit Edison Company, both dated June
13, 1960. A recommendation has also been received from the Engineering Dept.
dated June 16, 1960. There have been no objections received.
A letter has been received from Marvin Breshoff dated
June 16, 1960 requesting that the petition be withdrawn
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for the reason that since the petition had been sub-
mitted it has been found out that it is necessary that
the alley be left as it is due to site plan changes in
the erecting of a medical-dental building.
Mr. Harsha: Unless the other petitioners agree to withdrawing this
petition, it is still considered open. Isn't this
right, Mr. Pinto?
Mr. Pinto: If it is a public alley then I think theCity has the
right to vacate it if they desire. But,if by closing
you are denying necessary access that is a good reason
not to vacate it.
Mr. McCullough: Why not hear from the audience and take this under
advisement until I can look into it further. Our
Engineering Department recommends approval subject to
creating an easement of 20 feet to replace the alley.
The same applies to the utility companies.
Mr. Okerstrom: The Clark Oil Company received approval for a gasoline
station on that corner. I feel the alley would be
important to any commercial use in that area. I do not
feel that the alley should be vacated.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
I: Mrs. Elman: If the alley is vacated the cars wouldn't then use it
19136 Rensellor) in order to cut through from Seven Mile Road.
(Mrs. Elman is one of the petitioners)
Mr. Peacock: I suggest we take this under advisement until such time
we have been able to talk this over and determine which
it should be.
Mr. Walker: I would like to know legally if we have the authority
°to approve vacating an alley when some of the people
abutting the same alley object to having it vacated.
Could we have a legal opinion on this in writing by our
next meeting?
Mr. Pinto agreed to do this.
Mr. Angevine: This item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition M-200 by DuBarry
French Cleaners requesting permission to install and
operate a dry-cleaning plant located on the South side of Seven Mile Road, approxi-
mately 400 feet West of Middlebelt Road, known as 29489 W. Seven Mile Road in the
Northeast 1/4 of Section 11. Mr. Taylor is present.
Mr. Taylor has acquired the necessary signatures. This
will be a Type Four plant and will be located in the
shopping center on the South side of Seven Mile Road,
West of Middlebelt.
Mr. Peacock: There does not appear to be any driveway for unloading.
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Mr. McCullough: There is a twenty-five (25) foot driveway at the rear
for loading and unloading.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Walker and unanimously
adopted, it was
#6-130-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Tuesday, June 21, 1960 the City Planning Commission does
hereby grant Petition M-200 of DuBarry French Cleaners re-
questing permission to install and operate a dry-cleaning
plant in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 11, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments
as listed in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. Angevine called a ten minute recess at this time, (9:35 p.m.).
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Mr. Angevine called the Public Hearing back to order at approximately 9:45 p.m. with
all those present now who were present at the time recess was called.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Application TA-73 by
Charles 0. Melvin Co. , who is requesting permission to
remove a stock pile of topsoil located on the East side of Middlebelt Road,
approximately 1000 feet North of Plymouth Road, on Shopper's Fair property in the
Southwest 1/4 of Section 25. Mr. Melvin is present. Letters have been received
from Engineering dated June 21, 1960 and from thePolice Department dated June 16,1960.
Mr. Walker: This is a stockpile left from the development of
Shoppers Fair. There is no objection to the removal
of same.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Mr. Walker: Where will the ingress and egress be?
Mr. Melvin: Approximately 1,000 ft. North of Plymouth on Middlebelt.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Peacock and unanimously
adopted, it was
#6-131-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held the
City Planning Commission does hereby grant Application TA-73 by
Charles 0. Melvin Company requesting permission to remove a stock-
pile of topsoil on the East side of Middlebelt Road, approximately
1,000 ft. North of Plymouth Road on Shopper's Fair property in the
Southwest 1/4 of Section 25, subject, however, to the following
I[: • conditions:
(a) that the applicant shall not at any time allow water to collect
on the subject property or on adjoining property and at all times
shall maintain adequate drainage;
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(b) that the applicant shall not excavate below the grade of any
proposed aubdivision streets;
(c) that the applicant shall at all times comply with all traffic
requirements established by the Police Department;
(d) that the applicant shall be obligated to seed all of the land
from which topsoil has been removed with some seed acceptable to
the Department of Parks & Recreation unless at the time the
applicant petitions for the release of the topsoil bond, the
Planning Commission relieves the petitioner of this obligation,
and
FURTHER RESOLVED,' that the applicant deposit with the City Clerk
a corporate surety bond at $500.00 per acre for 2 acres (or $1,000)
which bond shall be for at least a one-year period; and
THAT, the period for which the permit herein authorized shall be for
a period of one year or period not to exceed the expiration date of
the bond as required herein, whichever is the shorter period, and
THAT, the applicant shall apply for and obtain the permit herein
authorized within thirty (30) days from the date of this resolution,
and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner, City Departments as
listed in the Proof of Service and recommendations having been
obtained from the Department of Public Works under date of June
21, 1960 and from the Police Department under date of June 16,
1960.
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is the proposed Pembrent
Subdivision located on the Southwest corner of Pembroke
Avenue and Brentwood Avenue in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 1. Submitted by D & A
Builders. The petitioner is not present.
It was questioned whether or not it would be advisable to designate Lot #3 as an
outlot so as not to lock in the property to the south of the proposed subdivision.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
An attorney for Mrs. Barach, 19914 Sunbury questioned the size of the home and at
value they would be.
Mr. Angevine: There is no specific value required on these homes but
they must have at least 1,000 sq. ft. in the homes.
Mr. Walker: I would like to ask the Chair to take this under advise-
ment until it is determined if this subdivision might
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possibly harm the property to the south.
Mr. Harsha: Even if the subdivision does go in, the property to the
south will have the same frontage as it always had.
Mr. Okerstrom: What good would it do by taking it under advisement?
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Harsha, it was
#6-132-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, June 21, 1960 the City Planning Commission does hereby
give approval to preliminary plat of the Pembrant Subdivision
located on the Southwest corner of Pembroke Avenue and Brentwood
Avenue in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 1, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, NOTICE of the above hearing was sent to the
abutting property owners; proprietor, City Departments as listed
in the Proof of Service and copies of the plat together with
notice having been sent to the Building Department, Superintendent
of Schools, Fire Department, Police Department, Parks & Recreation
Department and Members of the Plat Committee.
Mr. Walker: I would like to remind the commission that the large
parcels to the south of the proposed subdivision are
going to be hard to plat.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Greene, Harsha, Anderson, Okerstrom, Kane and Angevine
NAYS: Walker
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. McCullough:II: The next item on the agenda is Madonna Estates Subdivision
located on the Northeast corner of Schoolcraft Road and Levan Road in
the Southeast 1/4 of Section 20. Submitted by Robert H. Zumstein, Civil Engineers, Inc.
Mr. Zumstein in present. Letters have been received from the Dept. Public Safety,
dated June 14th; Livonia Fire Department dated June 16, 1960; Bureau of Inspection
dated June 17, 1960; Dept. Parks & Recreation dated June 21, 1960 and from the Livonia
Public Schools dated June 21, 1960.
I would like to have the Schools review their report be-
cause of a tier of lots backing up to the school and park
sites.
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I also feel that/access road should be required on Levan
Road, in addition to one on Schoolcraft Road. Petitioner
does not agree.
Mr. Peacock: A petition on whether or not 60 ft. lots should be re-
qui red in Section 20 instead of 70 foot lots has been
taken under advisement. How can we act upon this plat
if this has not been decided?
Mr. Zumstein: We do not agree on an access road on Levan Road because it
was not felt necessary since we have eliminated the R-3
and have platted this area for R-lA.
Mr. McCullough: The Planning Commission can require access roads on any
street shown on the Master Thoroughfare Plan. There was
an area of 250 ft. for R-3. They have platted this into
R-1A.
Mr. Zumstein: The reason for this was because the FHA preferred the
single home residences in this area instead of multiple
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dwellings. They have approved this proposed plat.
Mr. Steve Polgar (Attorney for petitioner): We have discussed this plat with Mr.
McCullough. There appears to be no problem as to having
an access drive on Schoolcraft. You will also note that
50% of the lots in the plat are more than 60 ft. Actually
this area is zoned for 60 ft. lots now so that I can not
see why this plat cannot be acted upon at this time.
Mr. Peacock: I would like to see a plat with an access drive on Levan.
Mr. Polgar: This would lose a whole tier of lots on Levan if an
access drive is put in.
Mr. Harsha: In regard to the relocation of Patter Drain, is this
with the knowledge of our Engineering Department?
Mr. Zumstein: I have talked with Mr. Hiltz and Mr. Meinzinger. They
have no objection to moving the drain at this point.
Mr. Harsha: Any approval we give would be subject to our receiving
a letter of approval from the Engineering Department.
Mr. Okerstrom: Would it be advisable to have a road on top of a drain?
Mr. Zumstein: The road going over would not be paved until the drain
is enclosed.
Mr. McCullough: The Livonia Schools may want to purchase the tier of lots
instead of having the homes backing onto their property.
Also, please advise him whether or not you want an access
drive on Levan; whether you are in favor of 60 or 70 ft.
lots and whether or not you want to extend some of the
streets further east than they are.
It was noted that problems arise when R-3 zoning is interspersed with R-1-A.
Mr. Zumstein: We could plat this R-3 zone as outlots or repetition to
rezone it back to R-1A.
Mr. Anderson: I would like to see it rezoned to R-1A.
Mr. McCullough: Do you want him to extend Scone and Summer to the eastern
boundary of the plat? And Woodside to the northern
boundary?
Mr. Anderson: We should have Summer extended.
Mr. Zumstein: We could have a "L" shape drive in order to have a turn-
around so as to eliminate the access drive on Levan Road.
This would only lose one lot.
IL] Mr. McCullough: There should be an access drive on Levan Road. It might
be wise to have these revisions put on a plat and present
it at the next meeting.
Mr. Anderson: It should be decided whether or not there will be 60 ft.
or 70 ft. lots in this area before he makes any more plats.
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Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
III Mrs. Emil Lewis: I feel this item should be held up until it is decided
14450 Levan Road) whether or not the lots are to be 60 ft. or 70 ft.
Mrs. Frank Ross concurred with Mrs. Lewis.
Mr. Walker: The petitioner should petition for another public hearing
to rezone the R-3 property to R-1-A.
This was agreed to by all members of the commission.
Mr. Angevine: This item will be taken under advisement until certain
revisions are made.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Anderson, supported by Mr. Kane it was,
#6-133-60 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the
Public Hearing held on Tuesday, June 21, 1960 at approximately
• 10:10 p.m.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Greene, Harsha, Anderson, Okerstrom, Kane and
Angevine
NAYS: None
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Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. Angevine called the 116th Regular Meeting to order at approximately 10:12 p.m.
with all those present now that were present at the time the public hearing was
adjourned.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is a request by Bernard Smith
to change the street Marie in the Belle Mar Subdivision
in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 23 to read Maria.
It was decided after a brief discussion to change the street Marie to Oakview because
the two names, "Marie" and "Maria" sounded too much alike.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Anderson and unanimously
adopted, it was
#6-134-60 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission having considered
the request of Bernard Smith, owner of lot in the Belle Mar
Subdivision, Southeast 1/4 of Section 23, and having reviewed
the street plan of said subdivision, does hereby recommend to
the City Council that Marie StAreet in the Belle Mar Subdivision
be changed in name to Oakview yin order to provide a more con-
sistent and convenient scheme of designation for streets in said
subdivision located in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 23.
IL: Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is a request by the Detroit
Edison Company to change the North-south street of West-
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field of the Schulgren Subdivision #3 in the Southwest
1/4 of Section 32 to read Raleigh.
After a brief discussion it was decided that this item would be taken under advise-
ment in order to study it further so as to de cide on a name that would be more
consistent with the present street scheme of the city.
Upon a motiop •duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Anderson and unanimously
adopted, i t was
#6-135-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a letter dated June 6, 1960 from J.
Silberstein requesting a one-year extension on the preliminary
oval for the Meadowland Subdivision approved on June 16,
96 , the City Planning Commission does hereby grant said re-
q st. .
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-447 by Margaret
Larson who is asking that the zoning classification on
property located on the East side of Newburgh Road approximately 475 feet South of
Eight Mile Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 5, be changed from RUFA to PS. Public
hearing held 5/10/60; item taken under advisement.
Mr. Peacock: I would like to read to the other members of the commission
I: the violations against Mrs. Larson as presented by the
Fire Department. Chief Roberta recommends that it not
be approved until these violations have been taken care
of.
Mr. Walker: I feel we should take it under advisement until Mrs.
Larson has satisfied the Fire Department on these vio-
lations. Then we can investigate it again and made a
report and recommendation.
Mr. Harsha was excused at 11:00 p.m. for the balance of the meeting.
Mr. Angevine: This item will be taken under advisement until Mrs. Larson
has complied with the suggestions made by the Fire
Department.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Application TA-71 by
Fattore Company requesting permission to remove sand on
parts of Lots 12-15 in the Newman Schoolcraft Farms Subdivision located on the East
side of Stark Road between Schoolcraft Road and the Chesapeake & Ohio Railroad
approximately 950 feet South of Schoolcraft in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 28.
Public Hearing held 6/7/60; item taken under advisement.
The petitioner has phoned and stated he no longer wishes
to remove the topsoil from this property and would like
ILto withdraw his petition.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Okerstrom and unanimously
adopted, it was
#6-136-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Tuesday, June 7, 1960, the City Planning Commission does
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hereby allow petitioner of Application TA-71, Fattore Company requesting
permission to remove sand on parts of Lots 12-15 in the Newman Schoolcraft
Farms Subdivision in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 28, to withdraw said
application for the reason that he no longer wishes to remove said sand.
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the property
owners within 500 feet, petitioner, City Departments as listed in the
Proof of Service and recommendations having been obtained from the
Department of Public Works under date of May 31, 1960 and from the
Police Department under date of June 2, 1960.
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. hcCullough: The next item on the agenda is the proposed Evelyn Burns
Subdivision located on the North side of Six Mile Road,
approximately 1450 feet East of the proposed Wayne Road between Farmington and
Wayne Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 9. Submitted by Donald Burns. Public
hearing 3/15/60; item taken under advisement. Study meeting 5/3/60; Regular meeting
5/10/60, item taken under advisement, Special Meeting 6/7/60, item taken under
advisement.
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Burns were present.
Mr.McCullough: At the last meeting a commissioner requested that Mr.
Burns submit the original plat that the objecting
property owners had stated was the plat Mr. Burns had
informed them would be used. Mr. Burns informed me that
this original plat had not been approved by the FHA that
is why he is not using it now.
It was determined that the 30' dedication in front of the three homes of the original
plat did not belong to the property owners. It was still owned by Mr. Burns. This
was also true in relation to the 60' dedication between two of the homes which was
presently being used as a private road. Mr. Burns was asked if he would dedicate
the 30' to the City for future road purposes and also dedicate the other 60 ft. to
the two individual home owners.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Okerstrom, it wee
#6-137-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, March 15, 1960 the City Planning Commission does hereby
give approval to the preliminary plat of the Evelyn Burns Subdivision
in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 9, subject, however, to the following
conditions:
(1) that a temporary turn around arrangement acceptable to the Fire Dept.
be provided on the subdivider's land at the northern end of Evelyn;
(2) that the subdivider dedicate to the City the thirty (30) foot north
and south easement he now retains north of Bobrich;
(3) that the subdivider deed the 60 ft. east west easement running
between the Toth and Altese ownerships to the owners
of those lots,
and
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FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the
abutting property owners, proprietor, City Departments as listed
in the Proof of Service and copies of the plat together with
notice having been sent to the Building Department, Superintendent
of Schools, Fire Department, Police Department, Parks & Recreation
Department and Members of the Plat Committee.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Greene, Anderson, Okerstrom, Kane and
Angevine
NAYS: None
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Anderson, it was
#6-138-60 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby table Item
#21 on the agenda, which was a request by the City Council to hold
a public hearing to determine whether or not to amend Section 17.02
of Article 17.00 of Ordinance No. 60 (Authority to Approve Uses;
Appeal to Council), for the reason the City Planning Commission
wishes to study this further at their next study meeting.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
IL: AYES: Peacock, Walker, Greene, Anderson, Okerstrom
NAYS: Kane and Angevine
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is a request dated June 10,
1960 from Robert Zumstein asking for approval of the
Compton Village Subdivision located in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 24, said sub-
division being a part of the Mar-Git and the Gordon-Begin Park Subdivision; approved
7/21/59 and 11/10/59 respectively. Mr. Zumstein is present.
The members of the commission examined the proposed plat. It was found to be a small
portion of the Mar-Git and the Gordon-Begin Park Subdivision which bordered each
other.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, supported by Mr. Kane, it was
#6-139-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to the 116th Regular Meeting held on Tuesday,
June 21, 1960 the City Planning Commission does hereby approve renaming
a portion of the Mar-Git Subdivision (approved 7/21/59) and a portion
of the Gordon-Begin Park Subdivision (approved 11/10/59) to read
Compton Village Subdivision located South of Lyndon between Harrison
and Middelbelt in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 24.
I: A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Greene, Anderson, Okerstrom, Kane and Angevine
NAYS: None
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
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adopted. •
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Kane and unanimously
adopted, it was
#6-140-60 RESOLVED that, final plat of the Idyl Wyld Estates Subdivision #2
in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 20 be given final approval, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, inasmuch as it appears on the records that
tentative approval of said proposed plat was given by the City
Planning Commission on January 6, 1959; and it further appearing
that said proposed plat together with the plans and specifications
for improvements therein have been approved by the Department of
Public Works under date of March 16, 1959 and August 17, 1959; and
it further appearing that a bond in the amount of $45,000.00 to
cover the installation of improvements has been filed in the office
of theCity Clerk under date of June 16, 1960; such bond having been
approved by R. C. Kropf, City Attorney on June 16, 1960 it would
therefore appear that all the conditions necessary to the release
of building permits have been met and the Building Department
is hereby so noti_ied.
Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by M.. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Kane and unanimously
adopted, the 116th 1.egular Ieeting was duly ad,.urned at approximately 11:40 p.m.
I[: on Tuesday, June 21, 1960.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
L onard K. Kane, Secretary
ATTESTED: •
obert L. Angev" e, Chairman
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