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MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND 2842
THE 115TH REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING
C1MMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
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On Tuesday, May 10, 1960, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia held
a Public Hearing and the 115th Regular Meeting at the Livonia City Hall, 33001 Five
Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Angevine, Chairman, called the Public Hearing to
order at approximately 8:05 p.m.
Members present: Robert L. Greene, Robert M. Peacock, Robert L. Angevine, Charles
Walker, Dennis Anderson, H. Paul Harsha, Leonard K. Kane, William
R. Robinson, Wllfrod Okerstrom.
Members absent: None
Mr. David R. McCullough, City Planner and Mr. Charles J. Pinto, Assistant City Attorney
were present along with approximately 200 interested persons.
Mr. Angevine: Due to the large number of people present in the audience interested
in Item No. 2, Petition M-198 by Coventry Gardens Improvement
Association requesting permission to build a swimming pool in their
subdivision, we would like to dispense slightly with the order on
the agenda and start the public hearing with Item No. 2.
Mr. McCullough: The first item on the public hearing is Petition M-198 by the Coventry
Gardens Improvement Association requesting permission to build a swimming pool on
roperty located on the Southern portion of Outlot A, on the North side of Rayburn
between Myrna and Edington in Coventry Gardens, in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 16.
We have received a letter from the attorney representing the
Coventry Gardens Improvement Association requesting permission to
withdraw Petition M-198.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#5-83-60 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby allow petitioner
for Petition M-198 requesting permission to build a swimming pool on
property located on the Southern portion of Outlot A in the Southeast 1/4
of Section 16, to withdraw said petition.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Greene, Robinson, Harsha, Anderson, Okerstrom,
Kane and Angevine
NAYS: None
Mr. Angevine: A gentleman in the audience has requested that I read the letter
requesting the petition to be withdrawn.
Mr. Angevine complied with the request.
LIr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition M-199 by Michael J. Caffery
: permission to construct and operate an automobile wash on the East side of
?armington Road, approximately 135 ft. South of Five Mile Road in the Northwest 1/4 of
ection 22.
Mr. Michael Caffery, 24712 Carlysle, Dearborn; Mr. L. Kliza, 6750 Norwood, Allen Park
and Mr. Gillmore, attorney for Mr. Caffery, were present.
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We have received a letter dated May 10, 1960
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McCullough: from the Fire Department stating that because of -
the school that the 16 ft. allowed between the proposed auto
wash building and St. Paul's School building is not sufficient. They
would prefer at least 30 ft. Also a letter dated May 10, 1960 from
the Livonia Public Schools objecting to the auto wash because they
feel it could delay the flow of school busses to pick up the school
children and it would create a safety hazard for these busses. We
have another letter dated May 3, 1960 from St. Paul's Lutheran
Church objecting to the proposed auto wash for several reasons.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Mrs. Edwin Rose: My children attend St. Paul's Lutheran school and I object to the
15507 Surrey) proposed auto wash because I feel it will be dangerous to the
children going to this school.
Rev. W. Koelpin, Pastor for St. Paul's Lutheran Church: Several of my parishoners
15218 Farmington) are present tonight. We have lodged a protest with the Planning
Commission during the last two weeks. We are now stating our protest
against the auto wash. I live in the parsonage right next to the
school and church and I represent both phases of our work.
Why do we protest very strongly against this auto wash? We do for
several reasons. There is a traffic hazard at the present time due
to cars being lined up for a mile every day at 4:00 p.m. and 8:30
1[440 a.m. Even if they widen Farmington there will be a definite traffic
hazard with the auto wash. I do not know how it is planned to locate
this auto wash but on this map (Rev. Koelpin presented a map to the
audience and commissioners) we do know that it would be in very close
proximity to our school and church. I do not know of a public school
in the City of Livonia that would have a car wash within two or
three feet of their school endangering the lives of the children.
The traffic is very congested on Farmington and who knows better
than I. We have a large number of the church members present
tonight who are protesting strongly against this auto wash.
Mr. Robert Puckett, Chairman of the Board of Education for St. Paul's Lutheran Church:
15997 Southampton) I would like to back up Rev. Koelpin's arguments. Our rear door
is about six feet from our property line which is used more ex-
tensively by children. There would definitely be a hazard here with
the younger children who have not learned yet the danger of traffic.
We do not want the possibility of any accident to any one of our
children.
Mr. Robinson: Mr. Chairman, may we have a show of hands of those present who are
objecting to the auto wash?
Mr. Angevine: Those who are objecting to the proposed auto wash, please raise your
hands.
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;here were approximately 100 persons objecting to the proposed use.
Ir. Angevine: Those who are in favor of the proposed auto wash?
There was no one in the audience who was in favor of the proposed auto wash.
Mr. Roland Kluth: The traffic hazard is very bad on this corner without adding a car
34102 Coventry Drive) wash. On Sunday we have two services and Sunday School
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which makes the traffic even more congested.
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Mr. Angevine: Any discussion from the Commissioners?
Mr. Gillmore,Attorney representing Mr. M. Caffery: Perhaps a lot of thinking has been
based on a lack of knowledge as to what is being planned. Statements
have been made which are not necessarily true in this case. In the
first place the plan that is contemplated has no openings on the side
toward the Church. There aren't any windows to speak of. The light
will come through glass block windows which are solid. The entire
length of the building has no openings whatsoever. At the back of
the building is a five foot wall which again will block any access
from the school side. The car washing itself again is on the side
away from the school. Any traffic on the property itself would be
on the opposite side of the building. So far as the traffic hazard
on Farmington Road, other than cars going in and out, there would
be very little likelihood of any traffic whatsoever because of the
fact that due to this piece of property being 60 ft. wide, there is
plenty of room for at least 35 or 40 cars on the property itself.
The plan is to pave the entire piece of property occupied by the
building and have plenty of room for waiting cars.
As far as noise is concerned, we have been assured by the people
furnishing the machinery for this auto wash there will be no noise
heard on the outside of the building. With the doors closed, as they
1[10 will be most of the time, there is no noise from the building. The
main thing is the fact that it is completely isolated and insulated
from the church property. I can see no factor of where there is a
likelihood of children wandering onto this property. There is no
way of getting into it. The wall is solid. It is a face brick
building. It is intended it will be a very attractive building. It
is not going to be a shack.
Mr. Gillmore presented a picture of the proposed auto wash to the audience and the
commissioners.
The entire affair will be inside of the building and there will be
an absolute minimum of disturbance of any kind. I think if the
commission has any questions we would be very happy to answer them.
Mr. Kliza: I have been in the auto wash business about ten years. The present
day machinery is pretty well mechanized. We do operate with a
minimum of help. We will get our help locally if we can and if we
can't we will get them from Detroit. They have their own quarters
on the premises. We have mostly automatic machinery which results
in less help. The wall next to the church wall will be solid brick.
They are exposed to a gas station at the present time. Our operation
will be in the building. We do have more parking space proposed than
any other auto wash in the City of Detroit.
Ir. Caffery:1[10 I observed your church Sunday. I want to build a building for Mr.
Kliza so he can operate his auto wash. You had 71 cars in the
parking lot. Eighteen were on the southern part of your residence.
The balance were on Westmore and upon property on Westmore. Two-
thirds of the 71 went north on Westmore and one way or the other
on Five Mile Road. Ten cars went out of the parking lot 150 ft. south
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of our property and went pass our property. Two parked in the
1[40 half-moon driveway. Two more came to park by the parsonage. One
car came from the other side of Farmington. I do not believe there
will be a traffic hazard as stated tonight.
It is stated in the lease that there will be no signs, either painted
on the wall or otherwise.
Rev. Koelpin: I appreciate all of your remarks. I appreciate the picture and the
effort to try and alleviate our fears that they would put up an
auto wash that would be better than the majority. I appreciate all
of this. We discussed this at the Church Council. Our attendance
was close to 400 last Sunday. We have two services and a Sunday
School class. Seventy-five cars could not have taken care of all of
these people. We have services at 8:30 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. I think
I am the authority on how much traffic goes in on Westmore.
I am not realistic that the children will not go on Westmore after
3:15 p.m. when they are no longer under our supervision. I know
where they are during the school hours. As to the parking lot -
where will they go in the parking lot?
Mr. Caffery: We are located approximately 136 ft. South of Five Mile Road. There
will be a 20 foot driveway which would accomodate two individual
lanes coming in to the rear of the building. The rear is facing
Westmore. If we park them as close as possible there is room for 52
1[40 cars. They will come in and out on Farmington Road. Westmore is
just a secondary road.
Rev. K'clpin: Cars in and out of Farmington would be a very definite traffic
hazard to our church. Many is the time I have waited four or five
minutes to get into our own driveway. As much as I appreciate your
remarks my fears have not been alleviated one bit and our protest
still stands.
Mr. Peacock: Are the automobile tires cleaned by steam on the outside of the
building?
Mr. Kliza: Yes, at the rear entrance of the building.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, it was
#5- -60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, May 10, 1960 the City Planning Commission does hereby
deny Petition M-199 by Michael J. Caffery requesting permission to
construct and operate an automobile wash on the East side of
Farmington, appr.:ximately 135 ft. South of Five Mile Road in the
Northwest 1/4 of Section 22 for the following reasons:
(1) Traffic congestion would endanger safety of school children
(2) Noise and confusion would interfere with the peaceful pursuit
of worship.
. Anderson: Would you include the objections of the Fire Department and
School Board?
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, supported by Mr. Anderson, it was
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#5- -60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, May 10, 1'60 the City Planning Commission does hereby
deny Petition M-199 by Michael J. Caffery requesting permission
to construct and operate an automobile wash on the East side of
Farmington Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 22 for the
following reasons:
(1) Traffic congestion would endanger safety of school chilren,
(2) Noise and confusion would interfere with the peaceful pursuit
of worship, and
(3) Fire Department requests thirty (30) feet between buildings
and not 16 ft. as specified on plot plan,
Mr. Harsha: Is this property zoned C-2?
Mr. Angevine: Yes.
Mr. Harsha: Is this where some playground equipment is located?
Mr. Caffery: It is on the property in the petition.
Mr. Harsha: Has the church tried to purchase this property for their own
protection?
Mr. Caffery: The property has been for sale with a sign for over a year.
I[::r. McCullough: They feel it is too expensive.
roll call vote on t2-e foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Greene and Anderson
NAYS: Robinson, Harsha, Kane and Angevine
NOT VOTING: Okerstrom
Mr. Angevine: The motion is not carried, therefore the resolution is not adopted.
Mr. Greene: This is a face brick building; could it be adapted later for office
use?
Mr. Caffery: I am signing a ten year lease with Mr. Kliza but it is being
designed in this manner for future professional offices.
Upon a Motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#5-84-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Petition M-199 by Michael J. Caffery requesting permission to
construct and operate an automobile wash on the East side of
Farmington in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 22, the City Planning
Commission does hereby duly table said petition for further
study.
1[1: roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Greene, Robinson, Marsha, Anderson, Okerstrom,
Kane and Angevine
NAYS: None
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
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Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Application TA-69 by the City of
vonia or its contractor, and as authorized by City Council's Resolutions #225-60
Pd #226-60 to remove topsoil from a forty (40) acre parcel in connection with the
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velopment of the same as a park site, said property being located on the Southwest
corner of Lyndon and Farmington and known as the Grennada Park Subdivision in the
Southeast 1/4 of Section 21.
We have received a letter dated May 6, 1960 from the Engineering
Department and also one dated May 10, 1960 from the Police Department.
Mr. Robinson: Mr. Pinto, at the time the City leased this property from Wayne
County, wasn't there a stipulation that no topsoil was to be removed?
Mr. Pinto: The lease makes no mention of sand removal. It merely states that
the City of Livonia is to improve the park site within 10 years after
which the deed of the property will go to the City. In order to
continue this improvement, though, we must remove some sand. This
hearing is only so that we can comply with the City Ordinance.
Mr. Walker: The contractor that gets the permit to remove this sand will be
responsible for posting the bond. I have spoken to Mr. Meinzinger
(Director of Public Works) and I suggested to him that the ingress
and egress be located on Farmington Road because of the surrounding
residential property on Lyndon Road. He said they would be willing
to go along with this provided that this would be during periods when
the weather would permit. I would like to suggest that this be
included in the resolution when it is approved.
L. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Mr. L. Coopersmith: The trucks are at the present time going in and out of the park
33470 Lyndon) area in front of our house. There is a continual dust storm. We
have two ro three inches of mud every time it rains. Also the
trucks are in and out as early as 5:00 a.m. I have complained and
they are in sympathy with me but nothing has been done about it
and because of this I would like to have the ingress and egress
along Farmington Road and not Lyndon Road.
Mr. Okerstrom: There is nothing stipulated on what grade the contractor is suppose
to bring the grade up too.
Mr. McCullough: The Engineering Department will specify that.
Mr. Peacock: Can the Planning Commission stipulate the time to start. Five o'clock
seems very early.
Mr. Walker: That subject came up last night at the Council meeting. This matter
would have to be taken up with them. They would be the only power
to regulate the hours and I am in favor of referring this to them.
1[:. Anderson: Normally we approve the release of the bond and if this is a per-
formance bond under the contractor we would have no jurisdiction
as to the release of this bond; I feel this should be made a part
of the resolution.
Mr. Walker: I think that would be very good, we should be notified.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Robinson, it was
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#5-85-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held, the
City Planning Commission does hereby grant Application TA-69 by the
City or its contracts remove sand to the grades to be established
by the City Engineeringr77trom property in the Grennada Park Subdivision
1[40 in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 21, and pursuant to this resolution
the City Planning Commission does hereby adopt for its bond the bond
which has been provided in the plans and specifications prepared by
the Engineering Division, provided,that said bond shall not be re-
leased by the City Council until the City Planning Commission previously
by resolution concurs in such release, and
FURTHER RESOLVED that,the City Planner is instructed to request the
Police Department to provide for ingress and egress on Farmington
Road whenever the weather permits, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the property
owners with 500 feet, City Departments as listed in the Proof of
Service and recommendations having been obtained from the Department
of Public Works under date of May 6, 1960 and from the Police Department
under date of May 10, 1960.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Greene, Robinson, Marsha, Anderson, Okerstrom,
Kane and Angevine
NAYS: None
Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
tit.. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Application TA-63 by Harold E.
dwards who is requesting permission to remove a stockpile of topsoil located on the
West side of Farmington Road between Six Mile and Oakdale in the Northeast 1/4 of
Section 16.
Mr. McCullough: A recommendation dated April 25, 1960 has been received from
the Engineering Department and another dated April 15, 1960 from
the Police Department.
Mr. Walker: This is a stock pile of topsoil. There is a bond, established at
the time the topsoil was removed. We will have to state a new
reasonable bond for the stockpile.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Peacock and unanimously
adopted, it was
#5-86-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held the
City Planning Commission does hereby grant Application TA-63 by
Harold E. Edwards requesting permission to remove a stockpile
of topsoil located on the West side of Farmington Road between
Six Mile and Oakdale in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 16, subject,
however, to the following conditions:
(a) that the applicant shall not at any time allow water to collect
on the subject property or on adjoining property and at all times
shall maintain adequate drainage;
(b) that the applicant shall not excavate below the grade of any
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proposed subdivision streets;
(c) that the applicant shall at all times comply with all traffic
requirements established by the Police Department;
(d) that the applicant shall be obligated to seed all of the land
from which topsoil has been removed with some seed acceptable to the
Department of Parks and Recreation unless at the time the applicant
petitions for the release of the topsoil bond, the Planning Commission
relieves the petitioner of this obligation, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, that the applicant deposit with the Bureau of
Inspection a corporate surety bond in the amount of $1,000 (2 acres)
which bond shall be for at least a one-year period;
THAT, the period for which the permit herein authorized shall be issued
for a period of one year or period not to exceed the expiration date
of the bond as required herein, whichever is the shorter period;
THAT, the applicant shall apply for and obtain the permit herein
authorized within thirty (30) days from the date of this resolution;
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the property
owners within 500 feet, City Departments as listed in the Proof of
Service and recommendations having been •-btained from the Department
of Public Works under date of April 25, 1960 and from the Police
Department under date of April 15, 1360.
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Ir! . McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Application TA-64 by A. K. Miller,
nc. , who is requesting permission to remove a stockpile of topsoil located on the
orth side of Seven Mile Road and West of Middlebelt Road in the Southeast 1/4 of
Section 2.
Mr. A. K. Miller was present.
Mr. McCullough: Recommendations have been received from the Engineering Department
dated April 25, 1960 and May 3, 1960 and from the Police Department
dated April 15, 1960.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Mr. Walker: This is for the removal of a stockpile. It is a renewal. We will
have to establish a new bond for this application.
Mr. Pinto: I am wondering what the term "renewal" means. The ordinance does
not provide for a renewal. This is a public hearing. If a permit
is issued at this hearing it is to be a new bond also. The old
bond must be released and a new one started. It is a new permit.
It is not a renewal.
Mr. Walker: It is your opinion that if we approve under these conditions, if
wanted to apply any action on the bond it would be invalid.
ir. Pinto: What you should do is if you are going to issue another permit, issue
a permit subject to the deposit of a bond on the condition that
the permit is issued within thirty days. It causes confusion in the
Bureau of Inspection to extend the permits because it gets involved
with the time limit of the bond.
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#5- -60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held the
1[1: City Planning Commission does hereby grant Application TA-64 by
A. K. Miller, Inc. , requesting permission to remove a stockpile
of topsoil located on the North side of Seven Mile Road and West
of Middlebelt Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 2, subject, however,
to the following conditions:
(1) that the applicant shall not at any time allow water to collect
on the subject property or on adjoining property and at all times
shall maintain adequate drainage;
(b) that the applicant shall not excavate below the grade of any
proposed subdivision streets;
(c) that the applicant shall at all times comply with all traffic
requirements established by the Police Department.
(d) that the applicant shall be obligated to seed all of the land
from which topsoil has been removed with some seed acceptable to the
Department of Parks & Recreation unless at the time the applicant
petitions for the release of the topsoil bond, the Planning
Commission relieves the petitioner of this obligation, and
FURTHER RESOLVED that, the applicant deposit with the Bureasof
Inspection a corporate surety bond in the amount of $5,000 for 10
acres of land at $500 per acre, which bond shall be for at let
a one-year period; and
IL: THAT, the period for which the permit herein authorized shall be for
a period of one year or period not to exceed the expiration date of
the bond as required herein, whichever is the shorter period; and
THAT, the applicant shall apply for and obtain the permit herein
authorized within thirty (30) days from the date of this resolution;
Mr. Okersttom: The first application was approved because of the preliminary
approval granted on the proposed subdivision for this property. I
do not think the plat has come back to us for an extension of time.
In the past we have not permitted any topsoil to be removed unless
it is determined if it will be platted.
Mr. Harsha: I think the present bond on the permit has expired. If it has,
have all the conditions been met and has the bond been discharged
by the Council?
Mr. Pinto: I do not know whether a bond for the improvements on the proposed
subdivision has been set.
Mr. Harsha: I am wondering whether the conditions of the removal of the topsoil
that is presently stockpiled have been met and if they have left
the land in a good condition.
Mr. Pinto: Mr. Miller has a topsoil bond filed with the City now. It has to
1[111be released by the Planning Commission.
Jr. McCullough read the recommendations of the Engineering Department. The recommenda-
ion dated April 25, 1960 stated the Engineering Department felt that a sand condition
that currently existed should be corrected before the stockpile is removed. The
recommendation dated May 3, 1960 stated that Mr. Miller had reseeded the area and that
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that the sand condition should be corrected by it.
Mr. Walker: Possibly we should investigate this area again and have further
information on the area. I would like to withdraw my motion until
the Topsoil Committee has made another examination of this property.
Mr. Peacock: I concur with Mr. Walker and I will withdraw my support.
Mr. Angevine: This item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. McCullough: The present permit on this property expires before our next
scheduled meeting.
Mr. Miller: This permit was issued last August. I think I have complied with
all the regulations of the City. As you know you can not load
topsoil it the winter. We have it in a stockpile and I think we
have complied with everything. We are carrying the bond for
approximately another six months.
Mr. Angevine: The bond is still good for six months? Will a permit for the
duration of the bond be satisfactory?
Mr. Miller: Yes, that would be all right with us.
Mr. Angevine: Can we give a permit for the duration of the bond?
It was determined that the bond would expire in August.
Er. Pinto: Is this correct? You are going to issue a permit from now until
August? In August the bond will expire and the petitioner will
be back here for another permit.
Mr. Walker: Suppose we set another bond?
Mr. Pinto: That is what I have been suggesting. A new permit and a new
bond. Previous to this new ordinance on topsoil, the permits
were issued for only six months.
The Planning Commission has not indicated the length of the
permit in their resolutions. I do not believe the surety
bond companies will attach a rider on their surety bonds. They
will file new bonds but they will not extend the old ones.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Peacock and unanimously
adopted, it was
#5-87-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held the
City Planning Commission does hereby grant Application TA-64 by
A. K. Miller, Inc. , requesting permission to remove a stockpile
of topsoil located on the North side of Seven Mile Road and West
of Middlebelt Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 2, subject,
however, to the following conditions:
1[111 (1) that the applicant shall not at any time allow water to collect
on the subject property or on adjoining property and at all times
shall maintain adequate drainage;
(2) that the applicant shall not excavate below the grade of any
proposed subdivision streets;
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(3) that the applicant shall at all times comply with all traffic
requirements established by the Police Department.
(d) that the applicant shall be obligated to seed all of the land
1[11 from which topsoil has been removed with some seed acceptable to the
Department of Parks & Recreation unless at the time the applicant
Petitions for the release of the topsoil bond, the Planning Commission
relieves the petitioner of this obligation, and
FURTHER RESOLVED that, the applicant deposit with the Bureau of
Inspection a corporate surety bond in the amount of $5,000 for 10
acres of land at $500.00 per acre, which bond shall be for at least
a one-year period; and
THAT, the period for which the permit herein authorized shall be for
a period of one year or period not to exceed the expiration date of
the bond as required herein, whichever is the shorter period; and
THAT, the applicant shall apply for and obtain the permit herein
authorized within thirty (30) days from the date of this resolution;
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the property
owners within 500 feet, City Departments as listed in the Proof of
Service and recommendations having been obtained from the Department
of Public Works under date of April 25 and May 3, 1960 and from the
Police Department under date of April 15, 1960.
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Ia . McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Application TA-66 by John Migut
ho is requesting permission to remove sand, gravel and topsoil from a portion of
arcel Illb located on the North side of Seven Mile Road approximately 650 ft. East
of Gill Road, in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 4.
This property is immediately adjacent to property in TA-67 (next
item on the agenda) which is a request to remove sand, gravel and topsoil from a
portion of Parcel JJ2 located on the North side of Seven Mile Road and West of
Farmington in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 4.
Mr. Migut was present along with a Mr. Walter Muller, owner of JJ22 and a Mr. Rubin
who owned Parcel Illb on land contract.
Mr. Muller: I am the owner of the parcel in Application TA-66, the next item
on the agenda. Mr. Migut has_been removing the topsoil from our
property. Inspection has shown that he has been doing a very
good job of removing the topsoil, replanting the seed and pre-
venting any dust from blowing.
I would like to speak on both of the petitions together (TA-66 and
TA-67) . Our engineer has found that we would be better off for
subdivision purposes if we balance the land by taking sand from
both parcels. Our engineer made a new topo of our property together.
Mr. Rubin is the owner of this property to the west.
1[41 Our permit will expire January, 1961. It is all right with Mr.
Migut to cancel his present bond and let him apply for a new one.
Mr. Rubin is the equitable owner, of property in TA-66, he is
purchasing the land on land contract from Mr. Lloyd Gullen. Mr.
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Gullen was asked for permission to remove the topsoil. He
wants to be paid for his land before the topsoil is stripped but in
order to pay him Mr. Rubin needs the permit to remove the sand in
order to sell it.
Mr. Okerstrom: I feel that this is a personal affair between these two men.
Mr. Walker: I would like to further investigate the property in TA-67.
Mr. Greene: Since Mr. Walker has said that he would like to further investigate
TA-67, how can we act on both TA-66 and TA-67 together?
Mr. Walker: Mr. Migut, you can continue your operation on the original permit
for this property in TA-67 but anything else should be held up until
we are satisfied with the other area. Some of the other commissioners
and myself question the elevations that exist. We are not objecting
to it, we only want to have more information on this.
Mr. Muller: Your own engineering department has approved these two applications.
Mr. Walker: This is something we would like to have more information on before
taking action.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Mr.W. Thorup, 18597 Norwick, asked various questions concerning the amount of
- iproperty from which topsoil is to be removed from; how long this operation would take;
what measures were going to be taken to insure dust control; and to what depth would
the topsoil be removed. Mr.Thorup further stated that they were concerned about the
children playing in this area. They want control as far as the dust and the safety
of the children is concerned.
Mr. Migut answered that topsoil would be removed from 17 of the 30 acres; that the
operation would take about a year; that the roads were oiled and that seeding is done
as they remove the topsoil and that the greatest depth would be six feet.
Mr. Lloyd Gullen: I live in the middle of TA-66. I do not think it would be a wise
34004 Seven Mile) thing for me at this time to release them of the contract after the
topsoil has been removed. I think there should be a definite plot plan of the
property so that the Planning Commission would know what the plans are for the develop-
ment of this property so it can be determined if it is wise to remove this topsoil.
Mr. Pretucci: I object to the removing of the topsoil because of the sand and
19066 Whitby) dust in the summer and the snow in the winter. It is almost
impossible to grow grass here.
Mr. Walker: I would like to say that we are quite competent in having grass
grown in areas where topsoil has been removed and where there is
sand, for example at Lyndon and Farmington. The petitioner present
has complied with all the regulations of the City. All the con-
ditions are satisfactory in this area.
::Mr. Muller: If you are going to table this, I would like to know when it will
be brought up again.
It was determined that this could be brotght up again on June 7th, 1960.
Mr. Peacock: Mr. Migut cm continue the work on his present permit for TA-67.
There is plenty to remove before the June 7th meeting. I would
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1: strongly advise tabling this until we have more information
from the Engineering Department. It will be based on both
petitions, TA-66 and TA-67.
Mr. Marsha: Mr. Angevine, has the audience been heard on Item #7 also, TA-67?
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak on Item #7?
If not, these two petitions will be taken under advisement.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Application TA-68 by Steve Polgar
for William Jamens who is requesting permission to remove sand, and topsoil from
parcel F4H which is located between Schoolcraft and the C & 0 Railway approximately
2400 ft. West of Stark Road and also from Lot #807, Supervisor's Livonia Plat #14
which is located approximately 1325 ft. South of Schoolcraft and 800 ft. West of
Stark Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 28.
Mr. Steve Polgar and Mr. William Jamens were present.
Mr. McCullough: We have received recommendations from the Engineering Department
dated May 10, 1960 and from the Police Department dated May 1,
1960.
Mr. Walker: There are no objections from the Topsoil Committee.
Mr. Angevine:1[40 Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Mr.Cl 'ter : I own the adjoining property. There is a creek bed on this
StarkRd.) property. Will it leave this property in a swamp condition if the
topsoil is removed?
Mr. Polgar: The drain will be opened up so there will be no obstruction of the
drainage area. The natural flow will be maintained. Where it is
low, no topsoil will be removed.
Mr. Walker: As far as the drainage is concerned during the time of removal, the
Engineering and Bureau of Inspection work together and they see to
it that the natural flow and elevation of the drain is protected.
This is a standard procedure of these two departments.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Peacock and unanimously
adopted, it was
#5-88-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held the
City Planning Commission does hereby grant Application TA-68 by
Steve Polgar for William Jamens requesting permission to remove
sand, and topsoil from Parcel F4H which is located between Schoolcraft
and the C & 0 Railway approximately 2400 ft. West of Stark Road and also from
Lot #807, Supervisor's Livonia Plat #14 which is located approximately
1[40 1325 ft. South of Schoolcraft and 800 ft. West of Stark Road in the
Northwest 1/4 of Section 28, subject, however, to the following
conditions:
(a) that the applicant shall not at any time allow water to collect
on the subject property or on adjoining property and at all times
shall maintain adequate drainage;
(b) that the applicant shall not excavate below the grade of any
proposed subdivision streets;
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(c) that the applicant shall at all times comply with all traffic
requirements established by the Police Department;
I: (d) that the applicant shall be obligated to seed all of the land
from which topsoil has been removed with some seed acceptable to the
Department of Parks & Recreation unless at the time the applicant
petitions for the release of the topsoil bond, the Planning Commission
relieves the petitioner of this obligation, and
FURTHER RESOLVED that, the applicant deposit with the Bureau of
Inspection a corporate surety bond in the amount of $10,000.00
for 20 acres of land at $500.00 per acre, which bond shall be
for at least a one-year period; and
THAT, the period for which the permit herein authorized shall be for
a period of one year or period not to exceed the expiration date of
the bond as required herein, whichever is the shorter period, and
THAT, the applicant shall apply for and obtain the permit herein
authorized within thirty (30) days from the date of this resolution.
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the property
owners within 500 feet, City DeFcrtments as listed in the Proof of
Service and recommendations having been obtained from the Department
of Public Works under date of May 10, 1960 and from the Police
Department under date of May 1, 1960.
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-447 by Margaret Larson
who is asking that the zoning classification on property located on the East side
of Newburgh Road approximately 475 ft. South of Eight Mile Road in the Northwest
1/4 of Section 5 be changed from RU to PS.
Mrs. Margaret Larson was present.
Mr. McCullough: Mrs. Larson has a hospital which presently has 50 beds and it is
at present a non-conforming use. She is planning to use a home at
the rear of the hospital, formerly used as a nurses' home, for
additional ten to twelve beds. The property was zoned RU at the
time this petition was published, in the meantime it was rezoned
to RUF.
Mr. Walker: I understand that at the present time you have 50 beds. Is that
the maximum allowed by the State?
Mrs. Larson: Yes, in the present hospital.
Mr. Walker: I have found upon investigating this hospital that it seems to be
quite crcwdcd. Rather than expansion, I feel that your place
needs a lot of repairing. Your front porch ramp is not very
safe. I would like to see something done to make it a little
safer for the patients.
Mr. Peacock: I saw no fire extinguishers when I visited the hospital. Something
should be done to fix the place up first before granting this
petition.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak.
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Mr. Walker: I would like to take this under advisement until the other members
I[: and I have had an opportunity to investigate this further. It is
in an area good for this use provided it is maintained properly.
It certainly needs a lot of work on it to make it such. Rather
than deny this petitioner, perhaps we could encourage her to
improve the conditions and I suggest that we take it under advise-
ment until it is taken care of.
Mr. Peacock: I concur with Mr. Walker.
Mr. Angevine: This item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is a petition by D. R. McCullough,
City Planner, pursuant to authority vested in him under Section 4 of Article VI of
the Rules and Procedure of the City Planning Commission adopted on October 14, 1958
to determine whether or not Part I of the Master Plan of the City of Livonia, that
is, the Master Thoroughfare Plan, should be amended so as to designate three roads,
said roads to be located in the South half of Section 27.
Mr. Angevine: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak?
Mr. McCullough: The C & 0 Railway heartily endorses the designation of these
roads.
Mr. Steve Polgar: I would like to recommend that you approve this petition.
Industrial )
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, supported by Mr. Walker, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#5-89-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to the provisions of Act 285 of the Public
Acts of Michigan, 1931, as amended, the City Planning Commission
of the City of Livonia having duly held a public hearing on Tuesday,
May 10, 19f0 for the purpose of amending Part I of the Master Plan
of the City of Livonia, entitled, "Master Thoroughfare Plan", the
same is hereby amended so as to add thereto the designation of three
(3) roads, 86 ft. in width, said roads to be located in the South
half of Section 27 of the said City of Livonia :
(1) Designate an 86' right-of-way in the South 1/2 of Section 27
by extending Hubbard Road northerly from the South line of
said section to the C & 0 Railway right-of-way,
(2) Designate an 86' right-of-way in the Southwest 1/4 of Section
27, said right-of-way to begin at the point where the Shaw Drain
intersects the West line of Section 27 and running from that
point eastwardly along the South side of the Drain a distance
of 2,640 ft;
(3) Designate an 86 ft. right-of-way which begins at a point on the
1[0 West line of Section 27, said point being 1,673 feet North of
the South line of said section and running easterly a distance
of 1570 feet thence south to the Shaw drain,
snd having given proper notice of such hearing as required by
Act 285 of 1931, as amended, the City Planning Commission of the
City of Livonia does hereby adopt said amendment as part of the
Master Thoroughfare Plan of the City of Livonia, which is in-
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corporated herein by reference, the same having been adopted by
resolution of the City Planning Commission under date of April,
1951, with all amendments thereto; and further that this amendment
shall be recorded on said map by the identifying signatures of
the chairman and secretary of the commission, and an attested copy
shall be filed with the City Council, City Clerk and the City
Planning Commission; and a copy shall also be forwarded to the
Register of Deeds for the County of Wayne with the following
certification contained thereon:
"We certify that the foregoing resolution was duly adopted at a
meeting of the City Planning Commission held on Tuesday, May 10,
1960 by the following vote:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Greene, Robinson, Harsha, Anderson, Okerstrom
Kane and Angevine
NAYS: None
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#5-90-60 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the
Public Hearing held on Tuesday, May 10, 1960 at approximately 10:04
p.m.
=A roll call vote cu the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Greene, Robinson, Harsha, Anderson, Okerstrom,
Kane and Angevine
NAYS: None
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the public hearing is adjourned.
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Mr. Angevine called a recess at approximately 10:05 p.m.
Mr. Angevine called the 115th Regular Meeting to order at approximately 10:15 p.m.
with all those present now who were present at the time recess was called.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-440 by Joseph Slavik
who is asking that the zoning classification on property located on the Southwest
corner of Six Mile Road and Farmington Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 16 be
rezoned from C-1 to C-2. Public Hearing 4/19/60, item taken under advisement;
study meeting 5/3/60.
Mr. McCullough presented specifications of a dental clinic which is to be built on
property in petition if approval is obtained for the C-2 zoning.
Mr. Greene: Is this to be in place of the gas station on the corner?
Mr. McCullough: No.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Greene, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#5-91-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, April 19, 1960 on Petition Z-440 as submitted by Joseph
Slavik for a change of zoning in the Northeast 1/4 of Section
16 from C-1 to C-2, the City Planning Commission does hereby
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recommend to the City Council that Petition Z-440 be denied for the
IC: following reasons:
(1) the uses which the owner could make under the existing zoning
are sufficient to insure that the land can be utilized for purposes
of the due process clause;
(2) the master plan contemplates that this land shall be a neighborhood
shopping facility and to permit a wider range of uses would defeat this
purpose.
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the
official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of hcrch 30, 1960 and
notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison Co. , Chesa-
peake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone Co. , The Consumers
Power Co. , City Departments and petitioner as listed in the Proof
of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Greene, Robinson, Harsha, Angevine
NAYS: Walker, Okerstrom and Kane
NOT VOTING: Anderson
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-441 by Herbert Spoon
= on behalf of Donna Development Company who is asking that the zoning classification
on property located on the East side of Merriman approximately 900 feet North of Six
Mile Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 11 be rezoned from RUFB to R1 A. Public
Hearing 4/19/60, item taken under advisement; study meeting 5/3/60.
Mr. Robinson: How many homes are adjacent to the area to be platted?
Mr. McCullough: Most of the lots in this area are 60 ft. minimum.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#5- -60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, April 19, 1960 on Petition Z-441 as submitted by Herbert
Spoon on behalf of Donna Development Company for a change of
zoning in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 11 from RUFB to R1A, the
City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council
that Petition Z-441 be granted, subject, however, to the following:
(a) that the west 240 feet of this parcel and the South 120 ft.
be rezoned R L A and the remainder of the land to be zoned R 1 A.
Mr. Peacock: I would like to withdraw my support to the motion, I
did not realize that the 120 ft. abuts the pencil
1: strip of land. I will go along with the 240 ft. along
Merriman. I will support it if the other is eliminated
from the resolution.
Mr. Greene: I will support the resolution as read by Mr. Okerstrom. I
would like to see that the character of the neighborhood
is maintained as at present and that a buffer is provided
in order to protect this pattern.
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Mr. Herb Spoon: I would go along with the 80 ft. minimum on Merriman but I
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rather not on the South 120 ft.
Mr. Anderson: I would like to hear a definite answer from the petitioner if he
would go along with the resolution of approval as stated?
Mr.Spoon: On Merriman, Yes; on the South 120 ft. , Io.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Greene, Harsha, Anderson and Okerstrom
NAYS: Peacock, Walker, Robinson, Kane and Angevine
Mr. Angevine: The motion is not carried, therefore, the resolution is not
adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson, supported by Mr. Peacock and unanimously
adopted, it was
#5-92-60 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby allow
petitioner, Mr. Herb. Spoon to verbally amend Petition Z-441
requesting a zoning change from RUFB to R 1 A, by requesting a
R L A zoning for the west 240 feet of property in said petition, and
the remainder to be R 1 A.
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roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Robinson, Greene, Harsha, Anderson,
Okerstrom, Kane and Angevine
NAYS: None
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, supported by Mr. Walker, it was
#5-93-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, April 19, 1960 on Petition Z-441 as submitted by Herb
Spoon for a change of zoning in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 11
from RUFB to R 1 A and R L A, as amended by Resolution #5-92-60,
the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City
Council that Petition Z-441 be granted, for the reason that,
(a) much of the square mile is already platted into 60 foot lots
and the alternative suggested will assure big lots along the
western boundary of the property in petition, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in
the official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of March 30,
1960 and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison
Co. , Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone Co. ,
IL,
The Consumers Power Co. , City Departments and petitioner as
listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Robinson, Harsha, Anderson, Kane and
Angevine
NAYS: Greene and Okerstrom
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Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
( Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-443 by Clarence Charest
on behalf of Floyd Oaks and Norman Liebert who is asking that the zoning classification
on property located on the Southwest corner of Shadyside Road and Eight Mile Road in
the Northwest 1/4 of Section 3 be rezoned from C-2 to M-1. Public Hearing 4/19/60,
item taken under advisement; study meeting 5/3/60.
The north side of Eight Mile Road in Farmington Township in
front of property in petition is zoned industrial.
Mr. Charest (Attorney for petitioner): It is shown on the site plan that the
building is intended to be built ten (10) feet from the existing
lot line. We find this is illegal. In view of the present con-
dition we wculd have to construct the building 20 ft. from the
lot line and provide for a greenbelt. We are attempting to get
another 10 ft. If we are able to do this, it will be C-2 and
it will be used as part of our greenbelt. It is our understanding
that there will be an industrial belt along the entire length of
Eight Mile Road on the north side and that the Planning Commission
is contemplating zoning the south side of Eight Mile Road to
industry. We are possibly jumping the gun. It might be suggested
that the Planning Commission may want to rezone this entire area
to M-1, including this property. But at the present time we are
here for the property in the petition.
ll:Mr. Peacock: You said that the 10 ft. as shown on the site plan is wrong. Is
that the only part that is wrong?
Mr. Charest: We show 10 ft. but actually it should be 20 ft which will be a
greenbelt.
Mr. Peacock: Is the parking on Shadyside to be discontinued?
Mr. Charest: Yes.
Mr. Peacock: We examined this area with the City Planner from Shadyside to
Farmington and I feel it should be industrial. Across the
street it is zoned M-1 and there are several industrial plants
going in.
Mr. Walker: The major complaint against this petition is the fact that some of
the traffic finds its way into the residential section, plus the
people working in the plant parking their cars on Shadyside. One
logical solution would be to have our Traffic Department stop the
flow of industrial traffic going south through the subdivision
and designate their ingress off of Shadyside and their egress off
of Eight Mile Road and this would keep the flow of traffic out of
the existing subdivision. It also seems to be that the business
place could be rehabilitated so that it is a little nicer looking
I: to the surrounding residential neighborhood. Regardless of what
position we take on this petition, we can not hold back industrial
or commercial zoning on Eight Mile Road. We have all this to
contend with and the only thing we can do is try to come up with
some kind of an agreement whereby we can make it a little better
than what it is presently.
Mr. Charest: There are many uses in C-2 that this property could be used for
that would create more problems than this present use.
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There was a further discussion as to whether or not there would be sufficient side
and area and also sufficient property to establish a greenbelt.
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. Charest: If you gave approval to this petition subject to the petitioner
obtaining the additional land needed, and he found later he
could not comply with the resolution of approval, he could then
go to the Board of Appeals.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, it was
#5- -60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, April 19, 1960 on Petition Z-443 as submitted by
Clarence Charest on behalf of Floyd Oaks and Norman Liebert
for a change of zoning in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 3 from
C-2 to M-1, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend
to the City Council that Petition Z-443 be granted, subject,
however, to the following:
(1) that the owner of the property in petition can purchase the
additional ten (10) feet to the west necessary to establish a
greenbelt, and
(2) that the entrance to the parking lot will be off Shadyside
and the exit to the parking lot will be on Eight Mile Road,
Mr. Peacock's motion died for lack of support.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
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#5-94-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, April 19, 1960 on Petition Z-443 as submitted by
Clarence Charest on behalf of Floyd Oaks and Norman Liebert for
a change of zoning in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 3 from C-2
to M-1, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to
the City Council that Petition Z-443 be granted, for the following
reasons:
(1) that an area extending from Farmington eastward a distance of
2,000 feet is zoned for Light Industry along the north side of
Eight Mile Road;
(2) that the petitioner has agreed to remove parkin g off Shadyside
on to his land and this is a cause of considerable difficulty
presently.
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in
the official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of March 30,
1960 and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison
Co. , Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone Co. ,
The Consumers Power Company, City Departments and petitioners as
listed in the Proof of Service.
[Mr.
Harsha asked if there should be some provision for the off-street parking since
what is shown is not good enough.
Mr. Robinson: I feel it is a police problem in relation to the off-street
parking.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
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AYES: Peacock, Walker, Robinson, Anderson and Angevine
NAYS: Greene, Harsha, Okerstrom and Kane
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Okerstrom, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#5-95-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to letter dated April 27, 1960 forwarded by
the Nelson Homes, Inc. , requesting an one-year extension on the
preliminary approval granted on the Pickford Gardens Subdivision
located South of Seven Mile Road in the Northwest and Northeast
1/4 of Section 11, the City Planning Commission does hereby grant
said request.
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Peacock and unanimously
adopted, it was
#5-96-60 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a letter dated April 22, 1960 forwarded by
The Woodbury Building Company, requesting an one-year extension on
the preliminary approval granted on the Arbor Estates Subdivision
located between Ann Arbor Road and Joy Road approximately 600 ft.
West of Hix Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 31, the City
Planning Commission does hereby grant said request, provided,
however, that the conditions of the preliminary approval are also
extended.
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is a motion to hold a public hearing
to determine whether or not Sub-section (g) of Section 10.02 of Article 10.00 and
Sub-section (h) of Section 11.02 of Article 11.00 of the Zoning Ordinance of the City
of Livonia, Ordinance No. 60, should be amended. This pertains to signs in commercial
zones.
After a brief discussion it was determined that the proposed ordinance needed to be
redrafted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is the proposed Evelyn Burns Sub-
division located on the North side of Six Mile Road approximately 1450 feet East of
the proposed Wayne Road between Farmington and Wayne Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Sectic
9. Submitted by Donald Burns. Public Hearing held 3/15/60; item taken under advise-
rcnt. Study meeting 5/3/60.
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Burns and Mr. Clarence Charest, their attorney,were present.
Mr. McCullough presented a proposed revised plat of the subdivision which he felt the
1[11 objecting property owners surrounding the area would be more agreeable to than the
original plat presented by Mr. Burns.
Mr. Charest: This revised plat does not meet with Mr. Burn's approval. We
realize that it is desirable to allow some access to the
property north and west of the proposed subdivision. We com=
plied with a street but then the problem came up that two of
these homes that are already erected, known as Outlots A & B
on the plat, was not enough to compensate anything more than
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Ca gravel road.
Mr. Toth, one of these property owners said that he would be willing, if
he was allowed in the subdivision, to pay his share of the paving. As of
this evening, Mr. Toth is not willing to pay his share nor are the other
property owners.
We feel that we can work out something to be agreeable to these property
owners when the property immediately east of this proposed subdivision is
platted.
We would like to ask consideration on our original proposed plat as submitted
by Mr. Burns. It is unfortunate some agreement can not be made between these
property owners and Mr. Burns but if they are willing to pay for their share
of the paving, we may have been able to go along with them.
Mr. Toth: At the time I purchased my property I was informed that only
1/2 acre parcels were being sold. At this time I am concerned
with what will happen to my well and septic tank with the new
subdivision coming.in. I am, also, willing to pay my share of
the paving if the other two property owners are willing to pay
theirs.
Mr. Walker was excused at 11:20 p.m. for the remainder of the evening.
ll:Mr. McCullough: Several of the lots are under a fraction of the 80 ft. minimum.
They will have to be changed.
Mr. Harsha was excused at 11:22 p.m. for the remainder of the evening.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#5-97-60 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby table the
Evelyn Burns Subdivision plat until the petitioner has submitted
a revised plat of said subdivision designating lots of no less
than 80 ft. minimum frontage.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Greene, Anderson, Okerstrom and Angevine
NAYS: Robinson and Kane
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#5-98-60 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve
minutes for meeting held on Tuesday, April 5, 1960 except for
that member who was not present, he abstain from voting.
ILA roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Greene, Robinson, Anderson, Okerstrom and Angevine
NAYS: None
NOT VOTING: Kane
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, supported by Mr. Anderson, it was
Ire #5-99-60 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby permit
the City Planner to attend the ASPO National Planning Conference
in Miami, May 22nd through May 26th, 1960 and the World Planning
Conference in Puerto Rica, May 27th through May 30th, and in order
to do this, he is authorized to spend up to the full amount in the
Travel and Education Account.
A roll call vote on the f oregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Greene, Anderson, Okerstrom, Kane and
Angevine
NAYS: Robinson
Mr. Angevine: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson, supported by Mr. Okerstrom and unanimously
adopted, the City Planning Commission does hereby duly adjourn the 115th Regular
Meeting held on Tuesday, May 10, 1960 at approximately 11:30 p.m.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
IL: 54---ml-45"1/12&44-1`
onard K. Kane, Secretary
ATTESTED:
bert L. Angevi e, Chairman