HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1957-05-07 I 07
MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
On May 7, 1957 the above meeting was held by the City Planning Commission of
the City of Livonia at the City Hall, 33001 Five Idle Road, Livonia, Michigan.
Chairman William R. Robinson called the Public Hearing to order at approxi-
.mately 8:11 p.m.
Members present: Robert L. Miller Fred A. Lotz *H. Paul Marsha
Robert L. Greene Leonard Kane Charles Walker
Karle Steinhoff William R. Robinson
Members absent: Wilfred Okerstrom
Lieutenant Bob Perry, Livonia Fire Department and Rodney Kropf, Asst. City
Attorney were present together with approximately 100 interested people attend-
ing the Public Hearing.
The secretary read letter dated April 22, 1957 from Stephan F. Slavik, Rouge
Building eompany requesting approval of revised plat of Coventry Woods Sub-
division located on the North side of Oakdale Avenue approximately 2,100 feet
West of Farmington Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 16. The secretary
also read letters dated May 7, 1957 from W. R. McCary, City Engineer aid Dave
Meinzinger, Director of Public Works and dated May 3, 1957 from P. Donahey,
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Secretary, �'oventry Gardens Improvement Association and petition opposed to
proposed plat signed by approximately 60 residents. Messrs. Stephan F.
Slavik and Joseph Slavik were present.
Mr. Joseph Slavik stated at the time of the joint meeting with Coventry
Gardens Association Thursday felt it impossible to get another outlet however,
over the week end they were able to transact a deal whereby there can be an-
other access to the proposed subdivision. Were able to move road down thereby
eliminating a lot. Submitted new plat showing additional access.
Mr. Robinson asked if the lots on the North are deeper than on other plats
submitted. Mr. Slavik stated they are by approximately 10' - the two in
question were increased to 125' depth.
Mr. Walker asked whether it was impossible to align existing Stamford with
proposed Southampton Court. Mr. Slavik stated it is because of the existing
house.
Mr. I. J. Swaninger, 15961 Southampton asked what petitioner is going to do
about hooking into the sewer.
Mr. Stephan Slavik stated it was their plan to hook into 8" sewer on Southamp-
ton but that they have now decided to hook into 10" sewer on Stamford.
Mr. Robert Seelye, 33639 NorthHampshire stated residents of Coventry Gardens
Subdivision would appreciate looking at revised plan as submitted tonight.
Asked whether they would be allowed to tie into sewer prior to operation of
pumping station. Mr. Stephan Siavik stated they do not intend to tie in until
sewer is released.
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Mr. Harsha, Chairman of the Plat Committee stated that petitioners have met
every objection raised in his mind - even to making wider lots. Understand
that along the creek they intend to erect two level homes.
Mr. Steinhoff stated he concurred and had nothing to add.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Greene, seconded by Mr. Lotz and unanimously
carried, it was
#5-126-57 RESOLVED that, in view of the fact that this proposed plat
looks like a well planned subdivis ion and pursuant to a
Public Hearing having been held April 16, 1957, the City
Planning Commission does hereby give approval to preliminary
plat of Coventry Woods Subdivision located on the North side
of Oakdale Avenue approximately 2,100 feet West of Farming-
ton Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 16, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the
abutting property owners, proprietor, City Departments as
listed in the Proof of Service and copies of the plat together
with notice having been sent to the Building Department,
Superintendent of Schools, School Board President, Fire Depart=
ment, Police Department, Parks and Recreation Department and
Members of the Plat Committee.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
3 The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition M-51 by
Joe Niestroy and Richard D. Woodruff requesting permission to erect a new
facial sign 2i' x 60' at the Rosedale Cleaners located at 31619 Plymouth Road
on Lots 28 through 30, Rosedale Gardens Subdivision, No. 1 and situated on the
South side of Plymouth Road approximately 50 feet West of Melrose Avenue in the
Northeast 1/4 of Section 34. Mr. Joe Niestroy was present.
Mr. Charles Walker was temporarily excused from meeting at approximately 8:26
p.m.
Mr. Harsha asked whether proposed sign is flashing. Mr. Niestroy stated it
doesn't have to be a flashing sign although client would like it to be so.
Mr. Robinson asked the colors to be used. Mr. Niestroy stated sign will be
rose and white.
Mr. Harsha stated that a sign of this size is tremendous therefore he was
opposed to the size and also to the fact that it will be flashing.
Mr. Robinson stated that inasmuch as proposed sign will be so large did not
feel it also had to be flashing.
Mr. Lotz agreed with Mr. Robinson.
Mr. Niestroy stated that due to the sign being flat on the building it is hard
to see because of the fast moving traffic.
Mr. Greene asked how far back from center of road building is located.
Mr. Niestroy stated building is located 60' from center of road.
No one was present objecting to proposed sign.
Mr. Steinhoff asked size of "R". Mr. Niestroy stated "R" will be 4' - 2i'
located on the face of the sign itself.
Mr. Harsha stated proposed sign is 601 long - this is a long sign even if
painted on building. Personally felt that it is going to be an eye-sore.
Mr. Niestroy stated proposed sign isn't any larger than the building.
Mr. Harsha stated that the building proper to not 60' and that Mr. Niestroy
is including car-port.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Harsha and seconded by Mr. Steinhoff, it was
#5-127-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
the City Planning Commission does hereby deny Petition M-51
by Joe Niestroy and Richard D. Woodruff requesting permission
to erect a new facial sign 2i' x 60' at the Rosedale Cleaners
located at 31619 Plymouth Road on Lots 28 through 30, Rosedale
Gardens Subdivision, No. 1 and situated on the South side of
Plymouth Road approximately 50 feet West of Melrose Avenue in
the Northeast 1/4 of Section 34 due to the excessive length
of the sign, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, Notice of the above hearing was sent to the
perperty owners within 500 feet, petitioners and City Depart-
ments as listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Greene, Steinhoff, Lotz, Harsha and Miller
NAYS: Kane and Robinson
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition M-53 by
M. F. Myers, President, Dearborn Glass Company requesting permission to erect
a metal and neon sign 8' x '8 on 8" steel post, 12' above grade to bottom of
sign, to be located with a maximum of 15" projection over the property line
or front sidewalk on Parcel 27G32a1 located at 31710 Plymouth Road and
situated on the North side of Plymouth Road approximately 1,000 feet West of
Merriman Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 27. Messrs. M. F. Myers and
Howard Lawrence, Lawrence Neon Signs, 24087 McDonald, Dearborn were present.
Mr. Kane asked whether proposed sign will be flashing. Mr. Lawrence stated it
will not but that it will be neon on the words "glass" and"Dearborn and
- Company". The sign will be green and red.
No one was present objecting to sign.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Kane and unanimously
carried, it was
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#5-128-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
and because request meets all the requirements of the
Ordinance, the City Planning Commission does hereby grant
Petition M-53 by M. F.MFDyers, President, Dearborn Glass
Company requesting permission to erect a metal and neon
sign 8' x 8' on 8" steel post, 12' above grade to bottom of
sign, to be located with a maximum of 15" projection over
the property line or front sidewalk on Parcel 27G32a1
located at 31710 Plymouth Road and situated on the North
side of Plymouth Road approximately 1,000 feet West of
Merriman Road in the South east 1/4 of Section 27, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
the property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City
Departments as listed in the Proof of Service.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Walker returned to meeting at approximately 8:37 p.m.
The secretary read letter dated April 22, 1957 from Casimir C. Gawron, Cass
Construction Company requesting a four months extension of time on the
preliminary plat of Gawron Subdivision located on the East side of Hix Road
between Ann Arbor Trail and Ann Arbor Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 31.
Mr. Casimir C. Gawron was present.
No one was present objecting to extension as requested.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Greene, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and unanimously
carried, it was
#5-129-57 RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission does hereby grant
request from Casimir C. Gawron, Cass Construction Company
dated April 22, 1957 for a four months extension of time
on the preliminary plat of Gawron Subdivision located on
the East side of Hix Road between Ann Arbor Trail and Ann
Arbor Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 31.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition 14-54 by
Sal Goodman, Outdoor Neon Corporation requesting permission to erect a
4' x 54' flat sign consisting of 3'0" letters "Gardner Furniture" mounted on
a metal bar 12" x 54'0" at 28801 Plymouth Road on the East 54' of Parcel 36A15
located on the South side of Plymouth Road approximately 110' East of Garden
Avenue in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 36. Mr. Sal Goodman was present.
Mr. Robinson asked whether sign is already erected. Mr. Goodman stated it is.
Mr. Harsha asked why sign was erected before obtaining Commission's approval.
Mr. Goodman stated that they have been doing work in Livonia for quite a while
and in the past it was their impression that a special meeting would not have
to be held on a sign erected on the building. Application for permit was sant
in day after sign was actually installed.
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Mr. Harsha stated that it is true where signs are painted on the building,
Commission allowed a little leeway. To his knowledge Commission has never
allowed such a sign.
Mr. Robinson stated some have been erected but that they are in violation.
Mr. Greene asked whether sign is lighted. Mr. Goodman stated it is with neon
tubing on the letters.
No one was present objecting to proposed sgn.
Mr. Kane asked whether any of the members have seen sign and whether they
consider it objectionable.
Mr. Robinson stated he has seen sign and did not consider it objectionable.
Mr. Steinhoff stated he drove by store every day. In his opinion sign has
been placed in violation.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane and seconded by Mr. Miller, it was
RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
the City Planning commission does hereby grant Petition M-54
by Sal Goodman, Outdoor Neon Corporation requesting permission
to erect a 4t x 54, flat sign consisting of 3'6" letters
"Gardner Furniture" mounted on a metal bar 12" x 500" at
28801 Plymouth Road on the East 54' of Parcel 36A15 located on
the South side of Plymouth Road approximately 110' East of
EGarden Avenue in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 36.
Mr. Greene stated that Commission denied Petition M-51 tonight and that he
_ realizes "consistency is the vitue of little minds" - however, how are we to
justify action.
A roll call vote on Resolution made by Messrs. Kane and Miller resulted in the
following:
AYES: Kane, Robinson and Miller
NAYS: Greene, Steinhoff, Lotz, Walker and Harsha
Mr. Goodman stated proposed sign is a flat sign and not an extending sign.
Had, several court rulings where Communities have been in violation denying this
. type of sign.
Mr. Greene suggested that this matter be looked into by the City Attorney and a
written opinion given and that in the meantime the item be tabled.
Mr. Walker referred to Section 10.02, Zoning Ordinance No. 60.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Greene, seconded by Mr. Kane and unanimously
carried, it was
#5-130-57 RESOLVED that, Petition M-54 by Sal Goodman, Outdoor Neon
Corporation requesting permission to erect a 4' x 54' flat
sign consisting of 3'00 letters "Gardner Furniture" mounted
on a metal bar 12" x 54'0" at 28801 Plymouth Road on
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this matter and give Commission a written opinion.
The Chairman declared theforegoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Application TA23
by Harold E. Edwards requesting permission to remove topsoil, grow sod,
remove hill and fill in low spots on Parcels 10HH1, 10001, 16A, 16C and 16D
located on the Southwest and Northeast corners of Six Mile and Farmington
Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 10 and the North 1/2 of Section 16. The
secretary read letter dated April 29, 1957 from Judge Leo 0. Nye, Municipal
Court and petition dated May 6, 1957 from five civic associations in area.
Mr. Harold Edwards was present.
Mr. Walker, Chairman of the Topsoil Committee stated committee looked over
area and that they are in doubt as to exact elevation on the parcel on the
Northeast corner and whether there is sufficient topsoil. Lacked exact
elevation of Farmington Road in order to estimate grade elevation to the field;
therefore would not recommend removal. The parcel on the Southwest corner -
both physically and the topography shows there is sufficient topsoil or dirt
to be removed. Front grade is quite a lot higher than Farmington Road. Rather
see petitioner come before Commission when a subdivision is to go in there -
like reasonable assurance that subdivision will follow removal because of the
ill effects on the neighborhood.
Mr. Lots stated on the Southwest corner he couldn't see more than 1" or 2" of
topsoil and wondered whether petitioner actually wanted to remove sand. Sand
is the type that will blow.
Mr. Robinson informed Commission that a report from the Police Department and
the Department of Public Works has not been received.
Mr. Edwards stated that his intent is to strip area that can stand stripping
and then grade other area. Does not intend to strip area to the South. Area
of the proposed subdivision plat (Coventry Woods Subdivision) will not be
stripped. Will plant grass on area that can stand stripping. All work will
be done according to Slavik engineers.
M... Arthur J. Bruckert, 16366 Bell Creek Lane stated request is for well over
400 acres - it is not a small area. In petition read, one of the strong.,
points was that the entire area West of Farmington Road has many ravines and
ditches and to strip topsoil will mean erosion which ditches will carry down
stream to Redford Township.
Mr. Edwards stated that their intent is not to interfere with any natural
ravines or ditches.
Mr. Bruckert stated area is full of blow sand which will roll down into creek.
There is no plan - no engineering done - this is the cart before the horse.
Mr. Edwards stated that they cannot. wait as it puts the developer so close to
operation that they cannot do a good job.
Mr. Robert Seelye, 33639 NorthHampshire stated blow sand does blow once it is
stripped off - has had personal experience inasmuch as a home has just been
constructed next to his.
Mr. John Stein, 16456 Bell Creek Lane stated the topsoil creates a natural
drainage which they would not have if it is removed. This will create more
of a flood problem than what they have now.
Mr. Joseph Burnett, 16743 Bloomfield asked where Mr. Edwards lives. Mr. Robin-
son ruled question out of order.
Mr. Howard Alexander, 1634G Bell Creek Lane stated without stripping;topsoil,
sand blows now during windy season.
Mr. Edwards stated due to the objections of the surrounding people, suggested
that they sod or seed areas of removal.
Mr. Greene asked whether Mr. Edwards intended to seed entire 400 acres.
Mr. Edwards stated if it is stripped they will seed it when it is stripped.
Mr. Greene stated grass does not grow during the summer and that residents
will suffer one year. Mr. Edwards agreed that there will be a certain period
of time when there will be dust. Mr. J. Douglas Elliott, 16310 Bell Creek
Lane stated he has sand on his property and is having trouble growing grass
and doubted whether Mr. Edwards would have any better success.
Forty-six residents in area were present objecting to petition as presented.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Greene and seconded by Mr. Steinhoff, it was
#5-131-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held,
the City Planning Commission does hereby deny Application
TA23 by Harold E. Edwards requesting permission to remove
topsoil, grow sod, remove hill and fill in low spots on
Parcel lOGG], 1OHH1, 16A, 16C and 16D located on the South-
west and Northeast corners of Six Mile and Farmington Roads
in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 10 and the North 1/2 of
Section 16 because: (1) No approved -plat of any development
in the area described is on record with the Commission; (2)
The area directly West of Farmington Road known as the
Livonia Playfield has little or no topsoil and (3) The area
has many ravines and ditches which are now a part of the
recommended Livonia Master Drainage Plan and to remove top-
soil from these areas will create erosion problems and the
filling of these ditches, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments
as listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Greene, Steinhoff, Lotz, Walker, Kane and Robinson
NAYS: Miller
NOT VOTING: Harsha
The Chairman called a recess at approximately 9:10 p.m.
The Chairman called the Public Hearing to order at approximately 9:34 p.m.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition M-52 by
Thomas G. and Evelyn B. Carrico requesting permission to construct a gasoline
service station on Parcel 27Flalbl located on the North side of Plymouth Road
approximately 1,425 feet East of Farmington Road in the Southwest 1/4 of
Section 27. The petitioners nor a representative was present.
Mr. Robinson stated that the petitioner called him and requested that item be
tabled inasmuch as he would be unable to attend mebting.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Kane and unanimously
carried, it was
#5-132-57 RESOLVED That, Petition M-52 by Thomas G. and Evelyn B.
Carrico requesting permission to erect a gasoline service
station on Parcel 27Flalbl located on the North side of
Plymouth Road approximately 1,425 feet East of Farmington
Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 27 be tabled until
May 21, 1957 in order to give petitioners an
opportunity to appear.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary read letter dated April 23, 1957 from Burton Warner, Warner &
Warner requesting approval of the revised Merri-Five Mile Subdivision located
between Rayburn Avenue and Five Mile Road East of Merriman Road in the South-
west 1/4 of Section 14. The secretary also read letter dated March 28, 1957
from Benton Yates, Supt., Livonia Public Schools. Messrs. Harry Spoon, Donna
Development Company and Burton Warner were present.
Mr. Lotz referred to Lot 130 in that corner should be rounded off. Mr. Miller
disagreed in that it's no more than a right angle.
Mr. Harsha agreed with Mr. Miller.
Lieutenant Perry stated that the Fire Department was planning on street as a
means of obtaining another fire hydrant for the school. The schools are not
being covered with enough fire hydrants. Trying to use subdivision's fire
hydrants for protection of the school. When this street is closed off,
Commission is taking away a fire hydrant from the schools.
Mr. Harry Spoon stated that the school is going to be built at the Northeast
end of the property - would be too far away to draw fire hose.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, seconded by Mr. Miller and unanimously
carried, it was
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#5-133-57 RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission does hereby approve
revised plat of Merri-Five Mile Subdivision located between
Rayburn Avenue and Five Mile Road East of Merriman Road in
the Southwest 1/4 of Section 14.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was final approval of
the proposed Trojan Subdivision located on the North side of Broadmoor Avenue
between Alexander Street and Harrison Avenue in the Southwest 1/4 of Section
13. The secretary read letters dated April 2, 1957 from Marie W. Clark, City
Clerk, and dated April 23, 1957 from Calvin Roberts, Chief Livonia Fire
Department. Messrs. Joseph Friedman and Jack Garber were present.
Mr. Friedman stated that he talked to someone at the Fire Department when they
received copy of letter dated October 17, 1956 and were told that it was up to
the Planning Commission to insist or not regarding hydrants. There is an
existing fire hydrant on Broadmoor across from Lot 8 and there will be one 901
North of Alexander in the Terrence Park Subdivision. Do not own property at
Harrison and Broadmoor Avenue. Asked how many fire hydrants are required in a
normal city block - insurance requirements are that they can go 1,000 feet
between each one.
Lieutenant Perry stated questions of that type can better be answered by their
Consulting.Engineer, Edwin Orr. Any variations of letter has to come from
Mr. Orr and that he cannot alter letter.
Mr. Friedman stated that if they follow recommendation of Fire Department,
there will be four hydrants within an area of 850+.
Mr. Miller thought item should be referred to Engineering Department
Mr. Kane asked whether Fire Department liked to go around the corner for
hydrants. Lieutenant Perry stated they do not.
Mr. Walter stated that the Fire Department is requesting a hydrant 240' beyond
the property petitioner owns. Asked whether that has been condition
Commission has applied before or is it even legal.
Mr. Garber stated if Engineer and Fire Department thinks hydrant is necessary
to cover their property they will put a hydrant in.
Mr. Robinson asked whether a hydrant in the middle of the subdivision would be
satisfactory. Lieutenant Perry stated he could not say and that he would not
want to go against wishes of Mr. Orr.
Mr. Garber stated that the improvement plans have been approved by the
Engineering Department and Mr. Orr. Plans approved without additional hydrant.
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Mr. Harsha asked whether it would be possible to approve plat and if.another
fire hydrant is requested by Mr. Orr that it be required - could motion be
qualified that way. Mr. Kropf stated it is a matter of good faith between the
two parties.
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Mr. Greene stated he thought qualifications referred to preliminary plats and
that this is a final plat.
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Mr. Robinson stated in his opinion he cannot see two additional hydrants.
Mr. Lotz concurred with Mr. Robinson.
Mr. Miller stated Commission should have communication from Mr. Orr stating
his position.
Upona motion duly made by Mr. Walker and seconded by Mr. Miller, it was
#5-134-57 RESOLVED that, final approval of Trojan Subdivision located
en the North side of Broadmoor Avenue between Alexander
Street and Harrison Avenue in t he Southwest 1/4 of Section
13 be tabled until May 21, 1957 in order to obtain necessary
information from Mr. Edwin Orr, Consulting Engineer pertaining
to letter dated April 23, 1957 from Calvin Roberts, Chief
Livonia Fire Department.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Greene, Steinhoff, Lots, Walker and Miller
NAYS: Kane, Harsha and Robinson
IMr. H. Paul Harsha was excused from meeting at approximately 10:05 p.m.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition M-42
by Charles R. and Mary E. Carson requesting permission to erect a gasoline
service station on Lot 738, Supervisor's Livonia Plat, No. 12 located on the
Southeast corner of Ann Arbor Trail and Newburg Road in the Northwest 1/4 of
Section 32. The secretary read letter dated May 6, 1957 from Dallas F. Hay,
Police Commissioner. Mr. David Kull, Attorney, 17304 Lahser Road, Detroit was
present.
No one was present opposed to petition as presented.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane and seconded by Mr. Walker, it was
#5-135-57 RESOLVED That, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
March 19, 1957 the City Planning Commission does hereby grant
Petition M-42 by Charles R. and Mary E. Carson requesting
permission to erect a gasoline service station on Lot 738,
Supervisor's Livonia Plat, No. 12 located on the Southeast
corner of Ann Arbor Trail and Newburg Road in the Northwest
1/4 of Section 32, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the
property owners within 500 feet, petitioners and City Depart-
ments as listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Greene, Lotz, Walker, Kane, and Miller
NAYS: Steinhoff and Robinson
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The secretary read letter dated March 29, 1957 from Jack Hickox, Chairman of
the Traffic Commission addressed to Rose-Hill Builders regarding Wonderland
Shopping Center. Letter was placed on file.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Miller, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and
unanimously carried, it was
#5-136-57 RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission temporarily depart
from the regular order of business in order to hear final
approval of Terrence Park Subdivision.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary read letter dated May 6, 1957 from Marie W. Clark, City Clerk
regarding bond being filed and approved by the City Attorney for the proposed
Terrence Park Subdivision located on the Southwest corner of Harrison and
Terrence Avenues in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 13. Messrs. Dunbar Davis,
Attorney and G. 0. Rockwood, N. & R. Homes, Inc. were present.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Miller, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
carried, it was
#5-137-57 RESOLVED that, final plat of Terrence Park Subdivision located
on the Southwest corner of Harrison and Terrence Avenues in the
Southwest 1/4 of Section 13 be given final approval, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, inasmuch as it appears on the records that
tentative approval of said proposed plat was given by the City
Planning Commission August 14, 1956; and it further appearing
that said proposed plat together with the plans and
specifications for improvements therein have been approved by
the Department of Public Works under date of September 5, 1956;
and it further appearing that a bond in the amount of
$75,000 to cover the installation of improvements has been filed
in the office of the City Clerk under date of April 16, 1957;
such bond having been approved by Charles J. Pinto, Assistant
City Attorney on May 6, 1957 it would therefore appear that all
the conditions necessary to the release of building permits have
been met and the Building Department is hereby so notified.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Miller, seconded by Mr. Lotz and unanimously
carried, it was
#5-138-57 RESOLVED that, Inter-Departmental Transfers No. 1231 and 1261
dated March 29, 1957 and April 30, 1957 for $84.40 and $57.08
be approved and forwarded to the proper department for payment.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Greene, Steinhoff, Lotz, Walker, Kane, Robinson and Miller
NAYS: None
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Miller, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and
c-)unanimously carried, it was
#5-139-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Section 20.01, subsection (b),
Zoning Ordinance No. 60, the City Planning Commission
on its own motion, does hereby d!termine that there shall
be a Public Hearing on June 18, 1957, on the question
whether or not Section 11.02 of Ordinance No. 60 should
be amended by deleting subsection (1), so that carnivals
outdoor circuses or migratory amusement enterprises need
not have the approval of the City Planning Commission as
a condition precedent to operating and doing business
within the City of Livonia.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary read letter dated May 7, 1957 regarding Motel Regulations from
William N. Ponder, City Attorney; Rodney C. Kropf, Asst. City Attorney and
Charles J. Pinto, Asst. City Attorney.
Mr. Walker suggested that inasmuch as the City Planning Commission has a Zoning
Amendment Committee that the City Council appoint a similar committee and
that the two committees rather than the two Bodies, work together.
Mr. Robinson stated in his opinion it should be a separate committee that will
work with the City Council Committee rather than the Zoning Amendment Committee.
Councilman Peter A. Ventura informed Commission that the City Council has been
talking about a joint meeting between the two Bodies. Felt that entire Bodies
should sit down and discuss these subjects.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
carried, it was
15-140-57 RESOLVED that, May 22, 1957 be suggested as a joint meeting
date for the City Planning Commission and the City Council
to discuss the procedure with which the City Planning
Commission has been following in recommending to the City
Council certain proposed changes in the Zoning Ordinance.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary read letter dated April 23, 1957 from Marie W. Clark, City Clerk
regarding City Council Resolution No. 295-57 regarding Petition No. Z-211 as
initiated by the City Planning Commission on its own motion on the question
whether or not Article 11.00 of Ordinance No. 60 as amended should be further
amended by adding thereto Section 11.18 (Used Car Lots).
Mr. Walker offered the following resolution which died for lack of support:
RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission does hereby recommend
to the City Council that Petition No. Z-211 as initiated by
the City Planning Commission on its own motion on the question
whether or not Article 11.00 of Ordinance No. 60, as amended
should be further amended by adding thereto Section 11.18.
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(Used Car Lots) subject to Section 11.18 being amended
to read "established or operated within one hundred (100)
feet of any existing residence" instead of "established
or operated within one hundred (100) feet of any
residential district".
Mr. Ventura stated that it was felt by the City Council that with the proposed
Ordinance there would be only a limited number of places where a used car lot
could be established.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Miller, seconded by Mr. Kane and unanimously
carried, it was
#5-141-57 RESOLVED that, request in letter dated April 23, 1957 from
Marie W. Clark, City Clerk regarding City Council Resolution
No. 295-57 regarding Petition No. Z-211 as initiated by the
City Planning Commission on its own motion on the question
whether or not Article 11.00 of Ordinance No. 60, as amended
should be further amended by adding thereto Section 11.18
(Used Car Lots) be tabled until May 22, 1957.
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The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition No.
Z-212 as initiated by the City Planning Commission on its own motion on the
question whether or not Article 4.00 of Ordinance No. 60, as amended should be
further amended by adding thereto Section 4.46 (Gasoline and Oil Service
Stations). The secretary read letters dated May 7, 1957 from Donald Wilson,
Chief Inspector and dated May 7, 1957 from William N. Ponder, City Attorney
and Rodney C. Kropf, Asst. City Attorney.
Mr. Howard Middlewood, Building Inspector stated regarding subsection (a) -
According to the definition of a front yard (Section 2.56) there cannot be
drive-ways, pumps or anything else in front of the building line. Twenty foot
side yards according to the proposed amendment - that means gasoline service
stations couldn't even have an air hose. Referred to subsection (e) - "...No
approach apron from a side street shall be less than 40' from the rear property
line as measured along the side street property line" - asked definition of a
side street - Ordinance does not provide one.
Lieutenant Perry was excused from meeting at approximately 10:55 p.m.
Mr. Greene stated it would mean main street and side street in relation to the
station.
Mr. Middlewood stated he thought amendment meant residential street.
It was suggested that the Bureau of Inspection contact Mr. Albe Munson,
Planning Consultant and that between the two the two sections be clarified to
the departments satisfaction.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Miller, seconded by Mr. Lotz and unanimously
carried, it was
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#5-142-57 RESOLVED THAT, City Planning Commission does hereby approve
minutes of meetings Mare $ and March 19, 1957.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted this Public Hearing
was duly adjourned at appradmately 11:00 p.m., May 7, 1957.
Ro.ert L. Miller, Secrtary
ATTESTED:
William R. Robinson, Chairman