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MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING
OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
On February 21, 1956 the above meeting was held by the City Planning Commission
at the City Hall, 33001 Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan. Chairman William R.
Robinson called the Public Hearing to order at approximately 8:07 p.m.
Mr. Peter A. Ventura presided as secretary pro tem in the absence of Mr. Fred
Lotz.
Members present: Peter A. Ventura Robert L. Greene Daniel Lepo
Robert Miller H. Paul Harsha William R. Robinson
Members absent: *Dallas F. Hay
)Karle Steinhoff
Fred A. Lotz
Lieutenant Bob Perry, Livonia Fire Department was present together with
approximately 75 people attending the Public Hearing.
The secretary announced that the first item on the agenda was Petition No.
Z-152 by Phillip Stollman, Biltmore Building Company requesting that the
zoning classification of portion of Parcel 14R located on the East side of
Merriman Road between Five Mile Road and Rayburn Avenue in the Southwest 1/4
of Section 14 be changed from RUFB to C-2, M-1 and R-1-B. The secretary read
letter dated January 26, 1956 addressed to Marie W. Clark, City Clerk from
Phillip Stollman, Biltmore Building Company. The petitioner nor a represent-
ative was present.
Mr. George D. Haller, City Attorney, arrived at approximately 8:07 p.m.
Approximately 50 interested residents were present objecting to Petition
No. Z-152 as presented.
Mr. William Snyder, 30921 Puritan Road, representing Merriman Estates Sub-
division (located directly North of area in question) stated residents are
opposed to any light manufacturing on that particular parcel as a proposed
Jr. High School and playground are located immediately East of area and in
their opinion the proposed use would not be desirable next to school and
playground.
Mr. R. L. Dougherty, 14231 Strathmoor, Det., representing church group owning
property North of exisiting store located on the Northwest corner of Merriman
and Five Mile Roads, stated church has received permission from this Commission
to erect church. Stated that they are opposed to petition as presented.
Mr. Charles Pollock, 30505 Hoy, _representing Green Acres Subdivision stated
residents as a whole are against proposed industrial area.
Mr. Ventura stated residents are entitled to know thinking of Commission in
regard to manufacturing classification as proposed in petition. Stated he would
like to assure residents that under no circumstances M-1 classification should
be extended in that area. Stated Commission and City of Livonia has had a time
containing the present M-1 use.
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Mr. Greene read portion of Albe Munson, Planning Consultant's recommendation
dated January 30, 1956.
Mr. Harsha asked whether Commission is going to entertain a motion on this
question tonight. Mr. Robinson stated Commission could.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Harsha and seconded by Mr. Miller, it was
RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission deny request dated
January 26, 1956 addressed to Marie W. Clark, City Clerk,
from Phillip Stollman, Biltmore Building Company, asking that
Petition No. Z-152 by Phillip Stollman, Biltmore Building
Company, for change of zoning in the Southwest 1/4 of Section
14 from RUFB to C-2, M-1 and R-1-B be withdrawn.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Miller, Greene and Harsha
NAYS: Lepo, Robinson and Ventura
Mr. Ventura stated that in view of the fact Mr. Stollman is just asking that
petition be withdrawn that he could not see anything wrong with granting
Mr. Stollman's request.
*Mr. Dallas F. Hay arrived at meeting at approximately 8:21 p.m.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura and seconded by Mr. Lepo, it was
#2-66-56 RESOLVED that Mr. Phillip Stollman, Biltmore Building Company,
request dated January 26, 1956 addressed to Mrs. Marie W.
Clark, City Clerk, Requesting that Petition No. Z-152 by Phillip
Stollman, Biltmore Building Company, for change of zoning in the
southwest 1/4 of Section 14 from RUFB to C-2, M-1 and R-1-B be
granted and that Petition No. Z-152 be withdrawn.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Miller, Lepo, Robinson and Ventura
NAYS: Greene and Harsha
NOT VOTING: Hay
The secretary read Petition No. Z-150 by Harry M. Kirsh, President, K & M.
Land Company requesting that the zoning classification of Parcels 17Q and 17N
located on the North side of Five Mile Road beginning 1/4 mile East of Newburg
Road and extending Easterly along Five Mile Road for 1/2 mile in the Southeast
1/4 of Section 17 be changed from AG-B to C-2 and R-1-B. Known as the
Wagenschutz Farm. The secretary also read letter dated February 13, 1956 from
Calvin Roberts, Chief Livonia Fire Department. Mr. Harry Kirsh was present.
Mr. Kirsh stated they are asking for C-2 District now instead of waiting until
homes are platted as has been done in other cases. Stated he did not submit
plot plan or plan of the proposed subdivison.
Mr. Robinson stated Commission should have plot plan.
Mr. Kirsh stated proposed C-2 District is located across from existing R-2
District.
Mr. Ventura questioned R-1-B District request. Mr. Kirsh stated they asked for
R-1-B inasmuch as area is presently zoned AG-B. Stated they intend to build
homes over 1,000 square feet and that he had no objection to petition reading
R-1-A instead of R-1-B.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura, seconded by Mr. Lepo and unanimously
carried, it was
#2-67-56 RESOLVED that, petitioner, Harry N . Kirsh, K & M Land Company
be allowed to verbally amend petition No. Z-150 as submitted
by Harry M. Kirsh, K & M Land Company for change of zoning
in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 17 to read AG-B to C-2 and
R-1-A instead of AG-B to C-2 and R-1-B.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Ventura stated he is not aware that there are sewers in area, Mr. Kirsh
stated the new sewer system includes area up to Ashurst Road and that it is
their intent to carry sewer through to Levan Road. Mr. Ventura asked
Mr. Kirsh whether at his own expense he intends to put in sewer West of
Ashurst Road. Mr. Kirsh stated he did.
1E: Mr. Harsha stated he would like to see sketch showing exact area and area
adjoining parcels in question.
No one was present objecting to petition as presented.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Harsha and seconded by Mr. Greene, it was
#2-68-56 RESOLVED that, Petition No. Z-150 by Harry M. Kirsh,
President, K & M Land Company, requesting change of
zoning in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 17 from AG-B
to C-2 and R-1-A be tabled until March 6, 1956 in
order to afford petitioner opportunity to present
Commission with a scale sketch showing not only what
area will be C-2 District and what portion will be
R-1-A but also showing surrounding property.
Mr. Ventura asked how many Commissioners read Mr. Munson's recommendation dated
January 30, 1956 pertaining to this petition. Wondered if Resolution No.
2-68-56 would be necessary if recommendation was read and considered.
A roll call vote on Resolution No. 2-68-56 resulted in the following:
AYES: Miller, Greene, Lepo, Harsha, Hay and Robinson
NAYS: Ventura
1[40 The secretary read Petition No. Z-151 by James Orr, Orr Brothers Home Builders
requesting that the zoning classification of the South 9 feet of Lot 60,
Seven Mile Super Highway Subdivision located on the West side of Farmington
Road approximately 265 feet South of Seven Mile Road in the Northeast 1/4 of
Section 9 be changed from R-1-B to C-2. The secretary stated letter dated
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February 13, 1956 from Calvin Roberts, Chief Livonia Fire Department, is on
file stating they have no objection to petition as presented. Mr. James Orr
was present.
Mr. Ventura asked whether wording in petition "...dedicated as a greenbelt
as required by law..." is correct. Mr. Haller stated it would have been better
to say "...Devoted as greenbelt as required by law..."
Mr. Hay asked whether construction has started. Mr. Orr stated it had.
No one was present objecting to petition as presented.
Mr. Harsha stated as he understands it 11' of Lot 60 is already zoned C-2 and
that existing zoning splits Lot 60. Mr. Orr stated Mr. Harsha is correct.
Mr. Greene asked whether Cith Attorney cared to comment on Albe Munson's
recommer.:dation dated January 30, 1956 "...the note on the zoning ordinance
map states that district boundary lines are lot lines .except where noted
hence I believe no action is necessary in this case..." Mr. Haller stated
Mr. Munson goes on further to state"...if, for matter of record, it is
desired to complete the action on this petition, I then recommend this
petition be approved..." Mr. Haller stated there wouldn't be any dispute
later if petition is acted upon now.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Greene, seconded by Mr. Ventura and
unanimously carried, it was
#2-69-56 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on February 21, 1956 on Petition No. Z-151 as submitted by
James Orr, Orr Brothers Home Builders, for a change of zoning
in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 9 from R-1-B to C-2 the
City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City
Council that Petition No. Z-151 be granted, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published
in the official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of
February 2, 1956, and notice of which hearing was sent to The
Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company,
Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The Consumer Power Company,
City Departments and petitioner as listed in the Proof of
Service.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition No.
Z-112a initiated by the City Planning Commission on its own motion on the
question whether or not the zoning classification of portion of Parcels 24AA,
24BB, 24DD and 24EE located 300 feet North of Schoolcraft Road extending
East of Middlebelt Road to West boundary of the Buckingham Village Subdivison
in the South 1/2 of Section 24 be changed from R-3-B to RUFB.
Mr. Hans Hartman, 28186 Schoolcraft Road, stated same petition was presented
to Commission last fall and asked why Commission is trying to change zoning
again. Mr. Robinson stated in June, 1955, it was proposed to change R-3-B
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District to R-1 District and that now petition is asking that it be changed
to RUFB to correspond with adjoining property to the North.
Mr. Hartman stated he would like to have property remain as it is. Stated he
uses property for parking lot for race track patrons.
Mr. Ventura stated according to Consultant's recommendation, he recommends
action be withheld until the population and density studies have been completed
Stated inasmuch as Consultant is in the process of having study made, it may
be wise to table item.
Mr. Miller asked Mr. Hartman whether this proposed change would work any hard-
ship on him. Stated R-3 District permits apartments and Commission proposes
single dwellings.
Mr. Hartman stated two years ago he had proposal to have R-3 use but that he
turned offer down. Stated it is his desire to keep area the same as it is now.
Mr. Ventura asked Mr. Hartman how long he has operated parking lot. Mr. Hart-
man stated since 1950.
Mr. Ventura asked Mr. Haller whether in the event this area was rezoned would
the rezoning have any effect on the property owner continuing his use.
Mr. Haller stated it would not as he would still be classified as non-conform-
ing.
Mr. Hartman stated he does not contemplate building or selling property.
Suggested ruling be made when parcel is sold.
Mr. C. J. Flemings, representing Asa Wilson stated he would like to see item
tabled temporarily in order that Mr. Wilson may have further opportunity to
study item.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mr. Harsha and unanimously
carried, it was
#2-70-56 RESOLVED that, Petition No. Z-112a initiated by the City
Planning Commission on its own motion on the question
whether or not the zoning classification in the South 1/2
of Section 24 be changed from R-3-B to RUFB be tabled
until April 17, 1956 in order to afford Planning Consultant
ample opportunity to complete population and density studies
and to afford property owners opportunity to be present.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted and called a recess at
approximately 8:55 p.m.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at approximately 9:10 p.m. with all
present as named at beginning and course of meeting.
1[40 The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition No. Z-137
by Harry Lightstone, Lightstone Development Company, Requesting that zoning
classification of Parcel J7 located on the North side of Joy Road approximately
(3' CD
325 feet West of Henry Ruff Road in the .SAuthwest 1/4 of Section 34 be-changed
from RUFB to R-1-A. The secretary read letter dated October 17, _1955 from
Harry Lightstone, Lightstone Development Company. Mr. Lightstone was present.
Mr. Lightstone stated to change zoning to R-1 will not effect construction of
school and that if school district does not purchase property change of zoning
will benefit him.
Mr. Greene asked whether a definite agreement has been reached between school
district and Mr. Lightstone.
Mr. Fred Erickson, President, Cooper School Board was present and stated at the
last school board meeting a motion was adopted tabling this matter 60 days
in order to give them opportunity to take this parcel under advisement with
architect. Stated he and Mr. Verl Lahs, Member of Cooper School Board, are
objecting to approval of petition as presented and that Cooper School Board
does not wish to rescind resolution designating site for school purposes.
Stated a study was made by Dr. Eino Michelson, Asst. Supt., Livonia Public
Schools which showed a school is needed in this immediate area. Stated this
parcel is the only parcel in immediate area which has not been platted to date
and school district must have site.
Mr. Ventura suggested pepition No. Z-137 be tabled until a Public Hearing can
be held on the designation of additional school and park sites.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura, seconded by Mr. Miller and unanimously
carried, it was
#2-71-56 RESOLVED that, Petition No. Z-137 by Harry Lightstone, Lightstone
Development Company requesting change of zoning in the Southwest
1/4 of Section 35 from RUFB to R-1-A be tabled until after the
Public Hearing has been held on the amended Park and School Plan,
Part V.
Mr. Donald Wilson, Chief Inspector, Arrived at meeting at approximately 9:15 p.m.
A roll call vote on Resolution No. 2-71-56 resulted in the following:
AYES: Miller, Greene, Lepo, Marsha, Hay, Robinson and Ventura
NAYS: None
The secretary read letter dated February 16, 1956 from George D. Haller, City
Attorney regarding proposed amendment to Section 4.06, Subdivision Rules and
Regulations and required notification. The secretary read proposed amendment •
as suggested by George D. Haller, City Attorney, in his letter dated January 19,
1956.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura, seconded by Mr. Lepo and unanimously
carried, it was
#2-72-56 RESOLVED that, Section 4.66, Subdivison Rules and Regulations
adopted by the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia °J1
January 9, 1952 be amended as follows:
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"Section 4.06 Blocks. Residential blocks shall not be less
than two hundred 200) feet wide and they shall not be less
than six hundred (600) feet long nor more than 1/4 mile in
length; provided, however, that where unusual conditions
exist, the Commission may allow a block to be less than six
hundred (600) feet in length where they find such deviation
will serve the best interest of the City. Where blocks are
more than eight hundred (800) feet long, a ten (10) foot
pedestrian lane shall be provided near the center of the
block. Business, Commercial and Industrial blocks shall not
be less than two hundred eighty (280) feet in width and in
length; provided however, that where such blocks are more
than two hundred eighty (280) feet long, a ten (10) foot
pedestrian lane shall be provided in the center of the block."
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura, seconded by Mr. Lepo and unanimously
carried, it was
#2-73-56 RESOLVED that, secretary be authorized to make the appropiate
insertion in the printed booklet, Subdivision Rules and
Regulations and send a Commission-certified copy of the amend-
ment in Resolution No. 2-72-56 to the County Register of
Deeds.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
I[: Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura and Seconded by Mr. Miller, it was
RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission hold public hearing
March 6, 1956 to amend Section 3.03, Subdivision Rules and
Regulations as follows:
"Section 3.03. Tentative Approval of Preliminary Plat.
Preliminary plats shall be subject to the tentative approval
of the Commission which shall take into consideration the
City's requirements and the most appropriate uses of the land
Particular attention will be given to the standards of design,
the justification for the development of public improvements
and the subdividons conformity to the existing street plan,
The width, location and arrangements of streets, the dimensions
of lots, the location of utilities and other features will be
studied. If the preliminary enderat thesnot plan appeptableroved, awilltbefmade
the changes necessary
known to the subdivider. If the preliminary plat meets the
approval of the Commission, then the subdivider may proceed to
make an accurate survey of the property and prepare the final
plat. Plans thus tentaively approved by the Commission shall
bear the signature of its Chairman and one copy shall be filed
with the Department of Public Works, one copy in the Office of
the City Clerk, and one copy in the file of the Commission and
the fourth signed copy returned to the subdivider. The approval
of a preliminary plat shall not constitute an acceptance of the
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subdivision. The final or record subdividon plat shall be
submitted to the Commission witnin one (1) year after approval
of the preliminary plat; otherwise the approval of the
preliminary plat shall become_null and void unless an -extension
of time is applied for within the one year and the application
is granted by the Commission."
Mr. Hay stated in his opinion there should be a report from the City Attorney
on the legality of such an amendment before Commission holds a Public Hearing.
Mr. Hay further stated that this item is not on the agenda; therefore it is
out of order.
The Chair agreed with Mr. Hay and ruled Messrs. Ventura and Miller's motion
out of order.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was reconsideration of
Petition No. V-10 submitted by Francis R. Clements and Gordon Wabake and
Petition No. V-12 as initiated by the City Planning Commission on its own
motion for vacation of 20 foot alley located in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 11,
The secretary read letter dated February 16, 1956 from Jack E. Menig, Special
Agent, Real Estate and Rights of W'ay Department, The Detroit Edison Company,
Messrs. Clements and Jabake were not present nor their representatives.
Mr. Jack Painter, 19041 Hillcrest, submitted petition signed by approximately
16 property owners requesting that North-South alleys be vacated along with
the East-West alleys except for East-West alley located North of Lots 128 and
344. Stated he and Mr. Charles Isanhart have their garages situated in such
a way that they use the alley for ingress and egress to garage. Stated he
tried to file petition in -ity Ulerk's Office but was informed that $5 filing
fee was necessary. Stated petition was returned to him and he forgot matter.
Mr. Greene asked the percent of property owners signatures involved and
obtained. Mr. Painter stated approximately 800 of the property owner
signatures are listed in petition.
Mr. Ventura asked Mr. Painter whether he had asked property owner to the North
to sign petition. Mr. Painter stated he had but that owner did not want to
sign petition.
Mr. Ventura asked Mr. Painter whether this property owner wanted the alley
vacated. Mr. Painter stated he imagined he did.
The secretary read petition (returned to Mr. Painter) as submitted by
Mr. Painter.
**Mr. Karle Steinhoff arrived at meeting at approximately 9:32 p.m.
Mr. Miller asked in the event the alleys are vacated, who would become owner
of alley. Mr. Robinson stated the property owner on each side of alley would
become owner. Mr. Miller asked Mr. Painter whether half the alley would be
sufficient enough to gain access to his garage. Mr. Painter stated it would
not.
The secretary read Petitions No. V-10 and V-12.
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Mr. Ventura asked Mr. Haller whether it would be legal to dead end the North-
South alleys between Clarita and alley in question. Mr. Haller stated the
City of Livonia has the right to vacate an alley or any part of an alley.
Stated property owners would have access in the opposite direction.
Mr. Harsha asked Mr. Haller whether it is required that City of Livonia Have
the approval of all property owners before an alley is vacated. Mr Haller
stated property owners would have access from the street to the same property.
Er. Harsha stated City of Livonia is going to have trouble in Court.
Air. Haller stated the City of Detroit has been making it a practice to vacate
all alleys and they have not had any objections.
Mr. Painter stated in a case like his own, where he has a garage built and
entrance is now in the alley, asked whether the City of Livonia could stop
him from using that garage by closing off half of alley. Er. Haller stated
he could not answer that off-hand.
Mr. Painter stated it would be confiscation of the use of his propery if he
could not have use of full alley. Er. Haller stated Mr. Painter still has
land and it still abuts on street and it is presumed that he could drive over
his land to the street. Stated if the City of Livonia felt the alley should
be removed, in his opinion they would have right to vacate it but that it
would have to be established that it was for the public welfare.
Mr. Greene stated to Mr. Haller that he would have a job proving Mr. Painter
wasn't having an injustice done to him.
Mr. Ventura stated he could not see any objection to granting request as out-
lined. Suggested east-west alley be vacated with exceptions.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura and seconded by Mr. Lepo, it was
#2-74-56 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public
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on May 17, 1955 and June 21, 1955 on
V-12 respectively as submitted by Francis R. Clements and
Gordon Wabake and as initiated by the City Planning Commission
on its own motion for the vacating of 20 foot alley in the
Northwest 1/4 of Section 11 the City Planning Commission Does
hereby recommend to the City Council that Petitions No. V-10
and V-12 be granted except that portion which extends West
from Hillcrest the length of Lot 344 and West from Sunset the
length of Lot 128 and subject to an easement the full width of
the present alley being retained for public utilities, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearings were published
in the official newspaper, The Livonian, under dates of April 28,
1955 and June 2, 1955 respectively and notices of which hearings
were sent to The Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Rail-
way Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The Consumer Power
Company, City Departments, Petitioners and abutting property
owners as listed in the Proof of Services.
Mr. Greene asked whether the City of Livonia has the obligation to maintain
alleys.
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Yr. Haller stated he did not think alleys are included as part of street system.
Mr. Arthur Mann, 1902£3 Flamingo, asked whether he would have to pay utility
company to get their equipment out of his yard if truck should get stuck.
Mr. Mann was assured by Commission that he would not have to.
The secretary read letter dated May 18, 1955 from G. A. Kennard, District
Plant Engineer, Michigan Bell Telephone Company.
A roll call vote on Resolution No. 2-74-56 resulted in the following:
AYES: Lepo, Harsha, Steinhoff, Robinson and Ventura
NAYS: Miller and Greene
NOT VOTING: Hay
Mr. Ventura stated to Mr. Painter that if he wished the vacation of the north-
south alleys he would have to file petition in the City Clerk's Office.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition by
H. B. Hollister, Divison Construction Engineer, Socony Mobil Oil Company
Inc. requesting permission to construct a gasoline service station on portion
of Parcel 13a2 located on the Northeast corner of Schoolcraft and Eckles Roads
in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 19. The secretary read letter dated
February 17, 1956 from W. R. McCary, City Engineer. Mr. Hollister was present.
Messrs. Hay and Haller temporarily left meeting at approximately 10:01 p.m.
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Mr. Hollister stated they have made corrections as suggested by Commission at
the last hearing. Stated there is a 12" water main just outside property line
and that well as shown on previous plans has been eliminated. Stated they also
added a clay dike along the North and East sides of property drainage field
of septic tank.
Mr. Miller asked Er. Hollister whether the ingress and egress to the proposed
station has been approved by the Police Department and the Fire Department.
Mr. Hollister stated ingress and egress has been approved by Wayne County and
that plans have not been submitted to Fire and Police Departments. Stated
plans will be submitted to Fire and Police Departments when a permit is filed
for.
Mr. Miller stated approaches are close to intersection.
The secretary read letter dated December 8, 1955 from Calvin Roberts, Livonia
Fire Department.
No one was present objecting to petition as submitted.
The secretary stated complete plans of station have been filed with Commission.
Mr. Ventura asked Mr. Hollister whether proposed station would be the regular
two-bay station. Er. Hollister stated it would and that it would be like the
one located at Schoolcraft and Farmington Roads.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Miller, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and
unanimously carried, it was
#2-75-56 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
January 17, 1956 the City Planning Commission does hereby
grant the petition by H. B. Hollister, Divison Construction
Engineer, Socony Mobil Oil Company, Inc. requesting permission
to construct a gasoline service station on portion of Parcel
13a2 located on the Northeast corner of Schoolcraft and Eckles
Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 19, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Depart-
ments as listed in the Proof of Service.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Messrs. Hay and Haller returned to meeting at approximately 10:05 p.m.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was opening and paving
of Yale, Levan and Arthur Roads in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 32 as referred
to Commission for report and recommendation by the City Council December 12,
1955. Mr. Irvin Hermanoff, Secretary, Harry Slatkin Builders, Inc. was present.
The secretary read recommendation dated February 13, 1956 from Albe Munson.
Mr. Ventura suggested a recommendation be obtained from the Traffic Commission.
Stated a serious problem could arise from the traffic leaving the Ford Motor
Plant.
Lieutenant Perry stated having Levan connect to Chicago Road is one of the Fire
Department's dreams. Stated this would make Wayne Road a little more accessible
to the Fire Department and that Arthur and Yale also would make subdivision
more accessible to Fire Department.
Mr. Hermanoff stated Slakin's Engineer was instructed to develop Country
Homes Subdivison according to Master Thoroughfare Plan as formulated by the
City Planning Commission. Stated he believed traffic problem is a matter of
more education of children and cooperation from Ford Motor Company in routing
their employees. Stated Ford Motor Company could be contacted and a great
deal could be accomplished in traffic control. Stated only interest Harry
Slatkin Builders, Inc. have in this matter is that ingress and egress should
be made on these roads for the benefit of home owners in Country Home Sub-
division.
The secretary read letter dated November 29, 1955 from Harry Slatkin Builders,
Inc. addressed to the City Council.
Mr. Ventura suggested matter of Arthur and Yale Roads be divorced from con-
sideration of Levan Road.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura and seconded by Mr. Lepo, it was
#2-76-56 RESOLVED that, City Planng Coiiuiission recommend
tto o requiredeity
Council that necessary stepsq
re property whether by acquisition or condemnation to extend Yale
and Arthur Roads North to Plymouth Road in the Northeast 1/4
of Section 32.
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Mr. Frank Gokay, 35552 Parkdale, stated the Country Homes Civic Association
adopted a resolution in accord with this particular matter that these roads
be opened. Stated secretary of association was instructed to write letter to
this effect.
The Chair asked whether Commission wished to accept information as stated by
Mr. Gokay inasmuch as letter has not been received.
Mr. Ventura stated he was asked to attend meeting and that what Mr. Gokay says
is thinking of the members of the association. Stated association's main con-
cern is to get Yale and Arthur Roads extended to Plymouth Road.
A roll call vote on Resolution No. 2-76-56 resulted in the following:
AYES: Miller, Lepo, Harsha, Steinhoff and Ventura
NAYS: None
NOT VOTING: Greene, Hay and Robinson
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura and seconded by Mr. Lepo, it was
#2-77-56 RESOLVED that, matter of Chicago Road and Levan Road in the
Northeast 1/4 of Section 32 being opened through to Plymouth
Road be tabled until April 17, 1956 and that same be sub-
mitted to the Traffic Commission, Fire Department, Police
Department and Albe Munson, Planning Consultant for a
Thorough and extensive study, field check and report.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Miller, Lepo, Marsha, Steinhoff and Ventura
NAYS: None
NOT VOTING: Greene, Hay and Robinson
The secretary read Notice of Public Hearing regarding proposed amendment to
the Zoning Ordinance of the Township of Plymouth on parcels located on the
South side of Plymouth Road North of Middle Rouge Parkway and East of Haggerty
Road in area now designated as AG (Agricultural)
Mr. Ventura suggested committee be appointed to attend Public Hearing
February 22, 1956.
The Chairman appointed Mr. Karle Steinhoff to attend Public Hearing.
Mr. Robinson stated he would have no objection to change in zoning if the M-1
District did not extend to West side of Eckles Road.
Mr. Ventura concurred with Mr. Robinson.
The secretary read letter dated January 24, 1956 from George D. Haller, City
Attorney regarding applications for renewal of topsoil permits and filing
procedure.
Letter was placal on file.
The secretary informed Commissioners of content of letter dated February g,
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1956 from George D. Haller, City Attorney addressed to Livonia City Council
regarding Circuit Court Case regarding Light Weight Aggregate Company and the
removal of aggregate products.
Letter was placed on file.
Mr. George D. Haller left meeting at approximately 10:34 p.m—
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was proposed additional
fire station sites.
Upon a motion duly made by Yr. Ventura, seconded by Mr. Harsha and unanimously
carried, it was
#2-78-56 RESOLVED that, Matter of proposed additional fire station sites
be tabled until March 6, 1956 in order to give Fire Department
opportunity to study report dated February 13, 1956 from Albe
Munson, Planning Consultant.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was the matter of the
drive-in theaters.
Mr. Ventura made the following motion:
RESOLVED that, recommendation made by Committee on Drive-in
Theaters January 23, 1956 be referred to City Council for
adoption.
Mr. Greene referred to Section 8, Subsection i as stated in recommendation and
stated he thought policing should be done by City of Livonia rather than
employees of theater as the employer would be concerned with the safety of
his patrons and not the safety of traffic on highway.
Mr. Ventura suggested City be kept out of policing drive-in theaters.
Mr. Miller asked why drive-in theater policing couldn't be handled the same
way as the race track and Drive-in Theater reimburse the City of Livonia.
Mr. Robinson stated race track doesn't reimburse City.
Mr. Greene Stated City gets 1/2 million dollars from race track but that it
will not get that much from Drive-in Theaters.
Mr. Miller recommended that Section 8, Subsection i of proposed ordinance
be amended to read "The operator, owner or manager of a drive-in theater shall
furnish the necessary employees for adequate policing of the drive-in theater
so as to maintain order within the theater and avoid confusion in the movement
of cars in and out thereof. The City of Livonia shall control the policing
of the cars leaving and entering the drive-in theater off the State Highway and
the dr4vP-in theater shall reimburse City of Livonia for necessary police
action.FY
The Commission indicated that they accepted Mr. Miller's suggested amendment.
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Upon a motion duly made by Yr. Greene and seconded by Mr. Ventura, it was
#2-79-56 RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission recommend to the
City Council that the ordinance to license the operation
of drive-in theaters as recommended by the committee on
Drive-In Theaters January 23, 1956 and as amended
February 21, 1956 be referred to the City Council for
adoption.
Mr. Hay suggested this be withheld until after court case as it can still be
retroactive.
Mr. Ventura stated Mr. Haller has suggested in letter dated December 15, 1955
that steps be taken immediately to give consideration to the advisability of
recommending to the City Council that a regulatory ordinance be readied to
cover drive-in theaters. Stated he has discussed this matter with several
attorneys and that he has been told it will not be retroactive.
Mr. Hay stated that just because the City of Livonia is threatened with a court
case it should not make drive-in theaters legal.
Mr. Ventura suggested it be recommended to the City Council.
Mr. Miller asked if the drive-in theater matter is taken to court and present
ordinance is ruled unconstitutional then drive-in will not fall under this
proposed ordinance.
A roll call vote on Resolution No. 2-79-56 resulted in the following:
AYES: Miller, Greene, Lepo, Harsha, Steinhoff, Robinson and Ventura
NAYS: Hay
Mr. Donald Wilson and Lieutenant Bob Perry were excused from meeting at
approximately 10:50 p.m.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura and seconded by Mr. Harsha, it was
#2-80-56 RESOLVED that, Inter-Departmental transfer No. 859 dated
January 31, 1956 in the amount of $53.16 be forwarded to
the proper department forpayment.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Miller, GreeneLepo, Harsha, Hay, Steinhoff, Robinson
and Ventura
NAYS: None
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Lepo and seconded by Mr. Steinhoff, it was
#2-81-56 RESOLVED that minutes of meeting November 15, 1955 be approved
as presented.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
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AYES: Greene, Lepo, HarsI4 Steinhoff, Robinson and Ventura
NAYS: None
NOT VOTING: Hay and Miller
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Miller and seconded by Mr. Ventura, it was
RESOLVED that, minutes of meeting December 13, 1955 be
approved as presented.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Miller, Steinhoff, Robinson and Ventura
NAYS: None
NOT VOTING: Greene, Lepo, Harsha and Hay
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Lepo and seconded by Mr. Miller, it was
#2-82-56 RESOLVED that, minutes of meeting January 3, 1956 he approved
as presented.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Miller, Lepo, Harsha, Hay, Steinhoff, Robinson and Ventura
NAYS: None
NOT VOTING: Greene
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura, seconded by Mr. Miller and unanimously
carried, it was
#2-83-56 RESOLVED that, minutes Of meeting January 10, 1956 be
approved as presented.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura, seconded by Mr. Miller and
unanimously carried, it was
#2-84-56 RESOLVED that, minutes of meeting January 17, 1956 be
approved as presented.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura and seconded by Mr. Lepo, it was
#2-86-56 RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission hold public hearing
March 6, 1956 to amend Section 3.03, Subdivision Rules and
Regulations as follows:
"Section 3.03. Tentative Approval of Preliminary Plat.
Preliminary plats shall b^ subject to the tentative approval
of the Commission which shall take into consideration the
City's requirements and the most appropriate uses of the
land. Particular attention will be given to the standards
of design, the justification for the development of public
improvements and the subdivisions conformity to the exist-
ing street plan. The width, location and arrangements of
streets, the dimensions of lots, the location of utilities
and other features will be studied. If the preliminary plat
is not approved, a list of the changes necessary to render
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the plan acceptable will be made known to the subdivider.
If the preliminary plat meets the approval of the Commission
then the subdivider may proceed to make an accurate survey of
the property and prepare the final plat. Plans thus
tentatively approved by the Commission shall bear the signa-
ture of its Chairman and one copy shall be filed with the
Department of Public Works, one copy in the Office of the City
Clerk, and one copy in the file of the Commission and the
fourth signed copy returned to the subdivider. The approval
of a preliminary plat shall not constitute an acceptance of
the subdivision. The final or record subdivision plat shall
be submitted to the Commission within one (1) year after
approval of the preliminary plat; otherwise the approval of
the preliminary plat shall become null and void unless an
extension of time is applied for within the one year and the
application is granted by the Commisson."
Upon a motion duly made by Nr. Hay and seconded by Mr. Steinhoff, it was
#2-85-56 RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission obtain written
opinion from George D. Haller, City Attorney, on the
legality of the amendment to Section 3.03, Subdivision
Rules and Regulations as proposed by Messrs. Ventura
and Lepo.
A roll call vote on Resolution No. 2-85-56 resulted in the following:
AYES: Miller, Greene, Harsha, Hay, Steinhoff and Robinson
NAYS: Lepo and Ventura
Er. Ventura read portion of Section 14, 125.44, Act 285 of the Public Acts
of 1932 as amended, Municipal Planning Commission Act.
A roll call vote on Resolution No. 2-86-56 resulted in the following:
AYES: Miller, Greene, Lepo, Harsha and Ventura
NAYS: Hay, Steinhoff and Robinson
On a motion duly made by Ir. Lepo, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
adopted this Public Hearing of the City Planning Commission was duly adjourned
at approximately 11:00 p.m., February 21, 1956.
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Peter A. Ventura, Secretary pro tem
ATTESTED:
William R. Robinson, Chairman