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MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE 64TH SPECIAL
MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING C OMMISS ION
On April 12, 1955 the above meeting was held by the City Planning Commission
at the City Hall, 33001 Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan. Chairman Peter A.
Ventura called the Public Hearing to order at approximately 8:06 p.m. In
the absence of Mr. Rufino Salinas, Mr. Robert L. Greene presided as Secretary.
Members present: Edwin Conway Daniel Lepo Dallas F. Hay
William Robinson Karle Steinhoff H. Paul Harsha
Robert L. Greene Peter A. Ventura
Members absent: *Rufino Salinas
The following were present together with approximately 125 people attending
the Public Hearing and the Special Meeting.
*****Lieutenant Bob Perry - Fire Department
**Eino Michelson - Asst. Supt., Livonia Public Schools
***Hugh Wood, Jr. - Chief Inspector
****Mayor Elbert Hartom
The secretary read petition by Irving Levine, Burt Homes Inc. for approval
of preliminary plat of Burt Homes Subdivision located on the North side of
Schoolcraft Road approximately 1,500 feet West of Merriman Roadinthe South-
east 1/4 of Section 22. The secretary read letters dated April 8, 1955 from
Hugh J. Wood, Jr., Chief Inspector and April 8, 1955 from Calvin Roberts,
Chief Livonia Fire Department. Mr. Irving Rosenthal was present representing
the petitioner.
**Mr. Eino Michelson arrived at approximately 8:07 p.m.
***Mr. Hugh Wood, Jr. arrived at approximately 8:11 p.m.
The secretary read letter dated April 4, 1955 addressed to Livonia Board of
Education from Irving Levine.
Mr. Michelson stated the Board of Education has recently let contracts on a
school in Section 22 which is located at Berwick and Lyndon Roads. Stated
this school is to take care of children in the Livonia Gardens Subdivision
and some of the children in Section 23. Stated at the time this school was
planned, other subdivisions in the area were not taken into consideration.
Mr. Ventura asked about the possibility of cottage type schools and how the
School Board feels about such measures.
Mr. Michelson stated he could not speak for the Board on this point but that
they have discussed several proposals to help provide schools. Mentioned
besides cottage schools the possibility of developers donating school site.
Stated at no time has the School Board indicated that they have decided on
a certain one of these possibilities for any certain subdivision.
Mr. Greene stated that recently this commission drafted a letter requesting
the School Boards attitude towards cottage type schools which this commission
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has not received an answer.
Mr. Michelson stated they discussed matter and that it will come up again.
Stated he thought they would like to have joint meeting with this commission 3
to discuss this matter. Stated to accept cottage schools as a policy for all
subdivisions would not be advisable as there are other w ser alternate means
of alleviating this situation.
Mr. Ventura stated that this commission would be glad to have a joint meeting
with School Board.
Mr. Harsha, Chairman Plat Committee stated that some of the lots shown do
seem off but that they do contain proper area. Stated that there was not
much access to the property.
Mr. Ventura stated the area to the East and to the West is undeveloped. Asked
what they were going to do with sewage.
Mr. Rosenthal stated they will use the new proposed sewer on Schoolcraft.
Mr. Ventura stated commission does not know when that sewer will be available.
Mr. Rosenthal stated they have to have sewer and that they are not interested
in building with septic tanks.
Mr. Conway stated that Mr. Levine stated they do not intend to build until
sewer is in.
Mr. Ventura asked about storm water. Mr. Rosenthal stated they will use the
Blue Drain. Stated they do not intend to cover drain at the present time but
whatever engineer says, they will do. Stated Blue Drain goes down quite a
distance.
Mr. Ventura informed petitioner that commission recently turned down plat
because subdivider did not intend to cover drain. Stated he recommended this
subdivision not be approved without drain being covered as this commission
has insisted other developers cover ditch going through their subdivision.
Mr. Rosenthal stated they have their own storm water within property and that
the storm ditch within the subdivision will be covered. Stated Blue Drain is
within the right-of-way on Schoolcraft.
Mr. Ventura asked how they intended to get into Berwick Circle. Mr. Rosenthal
stated they intended to have culvert.
Mr. Hay stated that this entire subdivision is contingent on the new sewer.
Stated there should be dedication of Berwick Avenue.
Mr. Ventura agreed with Mr. Hay in that these subdividers are premature as
there is uncertainty as to whether or not sewer will go in.
Mr. Rosenthal stated they have property on East of proposed subdivision.
Stated there is a residence on Schoolcraft which would prevent Berwick being3
continued.
No one was present opposed to this proposed subdivision.
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
carried, it was
#4-107-55 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
the City Planning Commission does hereby deny without prejudice
approval of Burt Homes Subdivision located on the North side of
Schoolcraft Road approximately 1,500 feet West of Merriman Road
in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 22 until such time some of the
questions as raised by this commission have been answered, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the
abutting property owners, proprietor, City Departments as listed
in the Proof of Service and copies of the plat together with
notice having been sent to the Building Department, Superintendent
of Schools, School Board President, Members of the Plat Committee
Park and Recreation Department and Fire Department.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary read letter dated April 6, 1955 from W. R. McCary, Supt. of
Public Works regarding application of Melvin Cruzen, Light Weight Aggregate
Corporation (u) for a permit to remove sand from Parcels Dlalal and A32c, Dlalb
located on the North side of the C & 0 Railway approximately 1/4 mile East of
Farmington Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 27. Mr. Cruzen was present.
Mr. Steinhoff asked if there was a topographic survey. Mr. Cruzen stated he
did not submit a survey. Stated he was advised by secretary (Mrs. Fulton) one
week before this hearing that a survey is required at which time he asked the
type of survey wanted by commission. As Mrs. Fulton could not give further
information he called Mr. Herald Hamill, Engineer and asked him to take care
of it. Mr. Hamill was to meet with Mr. Ventura but he has never heard from
either gentlemen. Stated there are many kinds of topographic surveys.
Mr. Hay asked the number of acres involved. Mr. Cruzen stated 60 acres.
Mr. Ventura asked whether he was aware that he needed a permit to remove
sand and stated that sand was removed before a permit was obtained.
Mr. Cruzen stated he applied for permit in January. Stated his attorney
advised him that in the Non-Conforming Use Certificate that this was all
part of certificate. Therefore, they removed sand on the advice of attorney.
Mr. Ventura asked the reason they applied for permit. Mr. Cruzen stated it
was applied for in his ignorance.
Mr. Robinson, Chairman Topsoil Committee stated he visited site and as
pointed out by the Chair they had started to remove sand. Stated they did not
know height of area without survey. Informed commission that there is 4' hole
with water standing.
Mr. Conway, Member of Topsoil Committee concurred with Mr. Robinson.
Mr. Ventura asked how deep and what area is covered by the large hole
presently on site. Mr. Cruzen stated it covers approximately 10 to 15 acres
and that deepest part is 15' and the average is 9' .
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Mr. Howard J. Hiles, 32541 Schoolcraft asked why they are going to remove
sand and what it is to be used for.
Mr. Cruzen stated that in order to get to clay the sand has to be removed.
Did not know where it is going but that the bulk is going to go on road ways.
Stated sand was worth commercial value.
Mr. Fred Schermer, 32609 Schoolcraft stated he represented property owners
on Schoolcraft, Merriman and Farmington Roads and that a hole is left in
ground containing water which is not safe for children. If sand can be
removed it should be used to fill hole. Stated there is value to property
owners too. Stated they are below rail of C & O :Railway now and that they
will be 26' below grade if more is removed. Stated he is not permitted to do
that and that they are no better than anyone else.
At approximately 8:47 p.m. Chairman Peter A. Ventura relinquished the Chair
to Vice-Chairman H. Paul Harsha.
Mr. Ventura stated he would like to concur with protest of property owners in
that this is very undesirable situation. If there is surplus sand they can use
it to fill hole. Land will have very little or no tax value. Regardless of
the fact they were in there before Zoning Ordinance they should not be allowed
to continue.
Mr. Conway asked whether it makes any difference if they grade with sand or
clay.
Mr. Ventura stated there may be more than one type of clay.
Mr. Cruzen suggested commission look at clay field at Romulus as it will give
commission some idea of quantity of clay they remove from road ways which is
far greater than what Light Weight Aggregate needs.
Mr. Conway asked why they didn't fill hole. Mr. Cruzen stated they are not
finished digging. Stated clay is more than 100' deep. Stated the Non-Con-
forming Certificate specifies that holes will be filled.
Mr. Greene asked about the existing hole and whether water is in it.
Mr. Cruzen stated there is water in the sump but not in the hole.
Mr. Ventura asked if they had pool and how deep it is. Mr. Cruzen stated 5' .
Stated they are in the process of putting fence around entire property.
Mr. Harsha stated commission is at some disadvantage as it does not know what
agreement has been made with City.
Mr. Russell Ashmore agreed to get information in his files. Mr. Ashmore
presented application for Non-Conforming Use Application dated November 2,
1953 by Light Weight Aggregate Corporation. Read portions of this application. .
Mr. Ashmore also read letter dated December 3, 1953 addressed to the Building
Department from William Brashear the City Attorney at that time.
Mr. Ashmore stated he talked to Mr. Percy M. Lovett, Light Weight Aggregate
Attorney. Stated he told them they could not remove sand until they have
permit. This is a Valid-Non-Conforming Use to mine aggregate and clay and
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there is not much that can be done about it. Stated if he had known facts
earlier today he would have written opinion for commission.
Mr. Greene stated D.P.W. makes stipulation in their letter. Stated the
absence of fence is one of the points not covered in certificate. Several
things should be done before commission takes action on permit.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura and seconded by Mr. Steinhoff, it was
RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
the City Planning Commission does hereby deny the application
of Melvin Cruzen, Light Weight Aggregate Corporation (u) for
a permit to remove sand from Parcels Dlalal and A32c, Dlalb
located on the North side of the C & 0 Railway approximately
1/4 mile East of Farmington Road in the Northwest 1/4 of
Section 27 for the following reasons:
(1) They removed sand without permit which is in
violation of Zoning Ordinance, No. 60
(2) They are violating Zoning Ordinance in more than
one respect in operation. Referred to Section 4.14
"...The construction, maintenance or existence within
the City of Livonia of any unprotected, unbarricaded,
open or dangerous excavations, holes, pits or wells or
of any excavations, holes or pits which constitute or
are reasonably likely to constitute a danger or menace
to the Public health, safety or welfare are hereby
prohibited..."
(3) Topographic Survey was not submitted
Mr. Robinson stated reasons for denying petition are very good but it is not
duty of this commission to enforce ordinance.
Mr. Conway stated that after all this company is in business and have been
there for three or four years.
Mr. Ventura stated that the petition for removal of sand should be denied.
Stated that it is true that Building Department should enforce ordinance but
when commission is aware of violation they should take it into consideration.
Mr. Robinson stated that even though the Building Department fails to enforce
ordinance, do not think this Body has any right to deny petition on those
grounds.
Mr. Greene stated that he did not think commission is denying petition that
commission has letter from D.P.W. who stipulates that it be granted. All of
the reasons mentioned by Mr. Ventura are as brought up by D.P.W. Asked
whether commission should ignore these recommendations.
Mr. Robinson stated that these are only the opinion of the D.P.W. Commission
should give Mr. Cruzen opportunity to submit survey.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Lepo, Steinhoff, Harsha and Ventura
NAYS: Robinson, Conway, Hay and Greene
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson and seconded by Mr. Conway, it was 4�
#4-108-55 RESOLVED that, petition by Melvin Cruzen, Light Weight Aggregate
Corporation (u) for a permit to remove sand from Parcels Dlalal
and A32c, Dlalb located on the North side of the C & 0 Railway
approximately 1/4 mile East of Farmington Road in the Northwest
1/4 of Section 27 be tabled until May 17, 1955 in order to give
petitioner opportunity to submit topographic survey.
Mr. Greene asked if Mr. Robinson wanted to include in motion also to give
Mr. Cruzen opportunity to comply with some of the other things like the
fence. Mr. Robinson stated he did not want to include this in his motion
as that is up to the Building Department to enforce ordinance.
Mr. Ventura asked Mr. Robinson whether this commission should close its eyes
to violation of Ordinance No. 60 and not take into consideration when a known
violation exists and petitioner is applying for atother permit.
Mr. Robinson statedthat in the past this commission has requested the
Building Department to investigate such matters and to report to commission
of its findings and give reasons why violation has not been issued in such
cases.
Mr. Wood stated that this violation has been going on ever since Light Wight
Aggregate has been in business. Asked advice of Mr. Ashmore.
Mr. Ashmore stated Mr. Lovett suggested to settle matter they will not remove
sand until fence is up.
A roll call vote on the Resolution No. 4-108-55 resulted in the following:
AYES: Robinson, Conway, Hay, Harsha and Greene
NAYS: Lepo, Steinhoff and Ventura
Mr. H. Paul Harsha relinquished the Chair to Peter A. Ventura at approximately
9:10 p.m. at which time Mr. Ventura called a recess.
Chairman Peter A. Ventura called the meeting to order at approximately 9:26
p.m. with all present as named at beginning of meeting and during course of
meeting.
The secretary read petition dated March 5, 1955 from Joseph A. Milko,
Athletic Committee, St. Michael's Mens Club requesting permission to hold a
carnival opening May 24 and closing May 30, 1955 on Lots 1727 to 1740 and
1800 to 1813, Rosedale Gardens Subdivision, No. 9 located approximately 500
feet South of Plymouth Road and 200 feet East of Woodring or on the Southeast
corner of Plymouth Road and Woodring :venue in the Northwest 1/4 of Section
34. Mr. Milko was present.
Mr. Milko stated money raised last year was used to hire a year
round coach and purchase equipment.
Mr. Hay stated they conducted a very nice carnival last year.
No one was present opposed to this petition.
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mr. Harsha and unanimously
carried, it was
#4-109-55 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
the City Planning Commission does hereby grant the petition of
Athletic Committee, St. Michael's Mens Club to hold carnival
opening May 24 and closing May 30, 1955 on Lots 1727 to 1740
and 1800 to 1813, Rosedale Gardens Subdivision, No. 9 located
approximately 500 feet South of Plymouth Road and 200 feet East
of Woodring Avenue or on the Southeast corner of Plymouth Road
and Woodring Avenue in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 34 subject
to the provisions listed in the letter dated May 11, 1954 from
Chief George E. Harmon, Livonia Police Department, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments
as listed in the Proof of Service.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The Chairman announced that Topsoil Application by D. J. Pitrone (w) for
permit to remove fill sand from Parcel L2 located on the South side of Five
Mile Road approximately 350 feet West of Fairlane Avenue in the Northwest
1/4 of Section 21 has been withdrawn by the petitioner.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mr. Robinson and unanimously
carried, it was
#4-110-55 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
the City Planning Commission does hereby inasmuch as petition
has been withdrawn, deny without prejudice application of
D. J. Pitrone (w) for permit to remove fill sand from Parcel
L2 located on the South side of Five Mile Road approximately
350 feet West of Fairlane Avenue in the Northwest 1/4 of
Section 21, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner, City Departments
as listed in the Proof of Service and recommendations having
been obtained from the Department of Public Works under date
of April 7, 1955 and from the Police Department under date of
April 11, 1955.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and unanimously
carried, it was
#4-111-55 RESOLVED that, Public Hearing be tentatively adjourned.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted and called the 64th
Special Meeting to order.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson, seconded by Mr. Hay and unanimously
carried, it was
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#4-112-55 RESOLVED that, commission depart from the Regular Order of the
agenda in order to take action on Item No. 12.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item before commission was petition by
A. T. Kunze, Engineer of Water Supply, Board of Wayne County Road Commissioners
requesting permission to erect two (one now and one in the future) 94 million
gallons circular reservoirs measuring 228 feet diameter and 39.34 feet above
grade located on Parcel Clc and situated on the North side of West Chicago Road
approximately 600 feet West of Harrison Avenue in the Northwest 1/4 of Section
36. Messrs. Karl F. Dodge, Engineer in the Water and Sewage Department,
A. T. Kunze and Albert A. Campbell were present.
****Mayor Elbert Hartom arrived at meeting at approximately 9:35 p.m.
The secretary read Resolution No. 3-93-55 adopted by the Planning Commission
March 29, 1955.
Mr. Kunze stated that they do not just wheel pump stations around the county.
Stated site was purchased three years ago for this purpose.
*Mr. Rufino Salinas arrived at meeting at approximately 9:35 p.m. at which
time he presided as Secretary.
Mr. Kunze stated that area was purchased and pump house erected so that when
reservoirs were needed they could be built. If the people of City of Livonia
want water the reservoirs must be erected. Mentioned the two sites
suggested by commission at last meeting (Inkster near C & 0 Railway and C & 0
Railway and Farmington Road) Stated that in either case it would take one-
half million dollars more than what county intends to spend. Stated Detroit
can furnish all the water Livonia needs for next 15 years provided county can
take it at the proper time. Predicted that one year from this summer Livonia
will be without water.
Mr. Steinhoff asked whether all the water that goes into reservoir will be
utilitized by Livonia. Mr. Kunze stated "no" but 90% would benefit Livonia.
Stated there will be 24" outlet into North end of Nankin. Stated there is
36" main coming in.
Mr. Campbell stated reservoir should be near as possible to the source of
supply.
Mr. Conway asked whether on the basis of homes being built in last year, how
long will residents continue to get drip from taps. Stated in his house at
5:00 p.m. in the upstairs bathroom they get only drip of water.
Mr. Harsha concurred with Mr. Conway that this is true.
Mr. Kunze stated that Mr. Conway's home is located close enough to system
and that the trouble must be something within the Livonia's system.
At approximately 9:45 p.m. Chairman Peter A. Ventura relinquished the Chair
to Vice-Chairman H. Paul Harsha.
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Mr. Ventura stated that county intends to serve Nankin with reservoir and that
24" of 36" main will be diverted to Nankin and Garden City. Stated at a
township board meeting in Nankin several months ago the board adopted
ordinance to sell $1,600,000 worth of bonds for extension of water mains and
sewers. Stated that they are now contemplating extension between Merriman
and Farmington Roads. Stated 1,200 proposed homes on North side of Ann
Arbor Trail and 260 homes at another near location. Stated that he understood
that the reservoirs were to be built to build up pressure and benefit this
City. Stated it appeared to him that most of water would be diverted to
Nankin and Garden City rather than Livonia. Asked why tank could not be_ put
in Nankin.
Mr. Kunze stated because pump house is in Livonia.
Mr. Ventura stated that although Board of Appeals approved this item three
years ago this commission should be aware of the will of the people and that
the area has changed.
Mr. Kunze stated they will have to keep pump station regardless whether it is
relocated or not. Stated service pumps are in station but not the big pumps
to take water out of reservoir and into system. Stated reservoir has to be
filled 10 million gallons in eight hours and multiple by three would mean
30 million gallons a day. Stated water comes from Spring Wells Station in
Detroit to Livonia. Stated it does not matter where it is metered and that the
County mains are a part of Livonia's system.
Mr. Kunze stated that if it is practical the tanks must be kept above ground.
Mr. Ventura asked what they would consider practical. Mr. Kunze stated
hydraulics.
Mr. Ventura asked whether it would be hard to build reservoir if it is below
grade. Mr. Kunze stated no that it would be easy.
Mr. Ventura stated that the engineer in Michigan Department of Health stated
tank can be put 50% below provided there are no sewer lines within 50' and
that tank be kept 50% full.
Mr. Kunze asked if that was practical. Stated that reservoir would have to
be twice as large.
Mr. Conway asked whether it would be three or four years before this is
brought up again if it is not approved by commission tonight. Mr. Kunze
stated he did know what he would do but does not know what City of Livonia
would do. Mr. Kunze stated several means the County could use this money
for which other communities are in need.
Mr. Campbell stated that presently they are in a position to issue one
million dollars in bonds. Stated they have a number of customers that money
could be used for if Livonia does not want tanks.
Mr. Kunze stated they are not going to worry about it.
Mr. Campbell stated it would be City of Detroit who will stop connections
into main.
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Mr. Steinhoff suggested reservoir beingplaced
gg partly below grade protected
by concrete. Mr. Kunze stated rules stated 50% still could not be used.
Mr. Kunze stated water that comes in during day goes right into system and
that tank will be empty on occasions. Stated if under ground could not be
metal.
Mr. Robinson asked whether Nankin is serviced by 36" main now or in the near
future. Mr. Kunze stated they are serviced by 36" main on Michigan Avenue.
Mr. Campbell stated that it is necessary that if they are to go to work that
final action be taken by this commission tonight.
Mr. Ventura stated that a number of homes are located in this area. asked
whether in Mr. Kunze's opinion tanks depreciate property. Mr. Kunze stated
"no".
Mr. Campbell stated there is a plan on file in the Building Department which
shows very clearly that in the future, when necessary, storage tanks would be
provided.
Mr. Campbell stated people should be advised what is going to happen to water
supply if reservoir is not constructed.
Mr. Ventura stated that he was not satisfied that tanks will benefit Livonia
as much as claimed by Messrs. Kunze and Dodge.
Mr. Robinson stated that commission should have engineer representing
commission so that commission knows and better understands what Wayne County
Road Commissioners problem is. -
Mr. Canava Caruso, 28815 West Chicago submitted petition with approximately
200 names of property owners objecting to location of reservoirs.
At approximately 10:10 p.m. H. Paul Harsha relinquished the Chair to Peter A.
Ventura. -
Mr. Caruso read letter from Department of Engineers, Health Department,
Lansing, Michigan. (Did not submit letter to commission)
Mr. Dodge stated no part of tank could be built under ground and that it would
cost four hundred seventy-five thousand dollars to build reservoir if they have
to move it.
Mr. Kunze stated that that is in addition to price of this tank.
The secretary read heading on petition as submitted by Mr. Caruso.
Fifty people raised their hands when chairman asked if anyone was present
opposed to petition in its present form.
Mr. John Hoffman, 10000 Garvett asked the objection of putting tank at Inkster
and C & 0 Railway and that there is a fixed attitude that tank is going to be
one place and only one place.
Mr. Kunze stated that if a new pump station is built in Nankin they would have
to supply the present station in order to get water over to Nankin.
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Mr. Richard Sterling, 9073 Gillman asked the size of water pipe running into
Livonia.
Mr. Bufford, 11204 Oxbow stated with additional homes there will be several
children which tanks would create challenge to. Mr. Kunze stated children
cannot climb tank as there will not be a ladder.
Mrs. Kelly, Hathaway asked what assurance people have that tanks will be
maintained. Mr. Kunze stated the County is just as interested in not having
tanks rust.
Mr. Mark Jacobson, Edward Rose & Sons suggested tank be located in Redford.
Mr. Kunze stated it would be nice to have tank in Redford to serve Livonia.
Mr. Jacobson stated that in his opinion commission has not been afforded
opportunity to investigate other methods of location. Suggested joint meeting
with commission.
Mr. Kunze stated that storage in Livonia is not the answer. Have to get
water from Detroit during peak hours. If storage is at other location, you
would shut off 10 million gallon supply.
Mr. Jacobson suggested more than ohe reservoir. Mr. Kunze stated if the
County had enough money.
Mr. Ventura asked where tank will be located after these two are built.
Mr. Kunze stated in 10 years they expect auto plant to be located here and
that future tanks will be located there.
Mrs. Robert Stingle, 28828 Hathaway asked whether they had considered the
cost of landscaping in the total cost of tank.
Lieutenant Perry stated that when he came out to Livonia he had to carry his
water and that he would not like to be without water. Felt that other
citizens in Livonia feel the same way.
Mr. Cecil, Hathaway stated in his opinion the City is lax in not making things
of this sort known to people.
Mr. Kretel, 9819 Auburndale asked whether he understood Mr. Kunze's position
is as engineer to the Water Board. Asked whether question of pump station and
reservoir is just Mr. Kunze's recommendation to his commission and it is
acceptable only on his recommendation. Stated it would be advisable for
Planning Commission to meet with County to determine some other means to
relocate tanks and in meeting with commission the Planning Commission will
convey the feeling of the people.
Mr. Dodge stated the loss of pressure would be 58 lbs. per square inch if it is
relocated.
Mayor Hartom stated reservoir had been approved by the Board of Appeals three
years ago. Informed commission that last summer he received letter from County
Department of Health calling our attention that if water pressure dropped
below 10 lbs. we were creating a bad health situation and that in those parts
of the City we should cut off water completely. Mentioned financing on water
bonds being tied onto a continuing growth of the City. Stated that they will
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prohibit any extension of water mains or taps and that that will also apply
to schools that are supposed to be constructed. People should be considered
but, and the Mayor quoted portion of article from the Detroit News ".. .The
public's good can never be placed at the mercy of the few who are inevitably
injured by any improvements. . .". Asked how much these homes are going to
be worth to owners if they cannot have water.
Chairman Peter A. Ventura called a recess at approximately 10:45 p.m.
Chairman Peter A. Ventura called meeting to order at approximately 11:01 p.m.
at which time all were present as named at beginning and course of meeting.
Mr. Greene asked whether tanks could be expanded laterally and cut down in
height. Mr. Kunze gave the size of tanks and parcel and stated there will be
50' on each side. Stated he could not help but feel that if tanks were
brought closer to fence it would not be desirable.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Salinas and seconded by Mr. Conway, it was
#4-113-55 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
March 29, 1955 the City Planning Commission does hereby grant
the petition by A. T. Kunze, Engineer of Water Supply, Board
of Wayne County Road Commissioners requesting permission to
erect two (one now and one in the future) 9-- million gallons
circular reservoir measuring 228 feet diameter and 39.34 feet
above grade located on Parcel Clc and situated on the North
side of West Chicago Road approximately 600 feet West of
Harrison Avenue in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 36 subject to
greenbelt planting according to specification of Parks and
Recreation Department and Planning Commission, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Depart-
ments as listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Greene, Conway, Lepo, Hay, Harsha and Salinas
NAYS: Robinson, Steinhoff and Ventura
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mr. Robinson and unanimously
carried, it was
#4-114-55 RESOLVED that, the commission return to the regular order of
business.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item before commission was the
application by Kenneth Kerbyson (TA-1) for a permit to remove topsoil from
Parcels FF2, I13b' and portion of Parcels GG, HH, II1 and II2 located on the
Northwest corner of Inkster and Schoolcraft Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of
Section 24. Messrs. Kenneth Kerbyson, Rex Harmon, Attorney, 33020 Five Mile
Road and Steve Slavik were present.
The secretary announced that application had been approved by the Department
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of Public Works and the Police Department.
Mr. Robinson, Chairman of the Topsoil Committee stated they visited site and
that the ground is high as shown on the topographic survey.
Mr. Conway, Member of the Topsoil Committee agreed with Mr. Robinson.
Mr. Salinas asked the number of acres involved. Mr. Harmon stated 109 acres.
Mr. Harmon stated Mr. Kerbyson has entered into contract for removal of top—
soil. Intends to remove topsoil from North half first and to sell and stock
pile it. Stated developers have insisted that Mr. Kerbyson does not go below
grade.
Mr. Slavik stated in the contract it states that no more than 10" of topsoil
be removed and that a topographic survey be submitted when topsoil is removed.
Mr. Hay stated there are 402 homes and that people will have to buy back this
topsoil.
Mr. Slavik stated they would have to in any case.
Mr. Hay stated this is same condition as on Mancuso application.
Mr. Ventura stated this situation is a little different as these developers
have not stock piled topsoil without permit.
Mr. Hay stated this commission agreed that there would not be any removal of
topsoil before homes are built.
Mr. Robinson agreed that it would be more desirable to stock pile topsoil and
return necessary amount to purchasers but that unless commission has ordinance
this cannot be done.
There was a lengthy discussion regarding the cost of the topsoil to the
purchasers.
Mr. Slavik informed commission of an experience his concern had in Garden
City where they were given permission to stock pile topsoil and the un—
pleasant result of their experience.
Mr. Greene asked what happened to the topsoil ordinance that commission has
been working on for one year.
Mr. Ashmore stated that if commission tells him how to write it he will write
it.
Mr. Ventura stated that at a meeting of the topsoil committee which he
attended, it was agreed that present ordinance covers removal thoroughly.
The committee suggested that furnishing of topographical survey be made
mandatory and that a specific sum per acre (to be posted as bond) be
included in present ordinance (by amendment) .
Mr. Ventura stated that in Dearborn they have changed their ordinance to
read "regulate" rather than "forbid".
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Mr. Hay asked Mr. Kerbyson whether he was the one who removed topsoil at
Farmington and Plymouth Roads and whether that was left in a satisfactory
condition according to Ordinance No. 60. Mr. Kerbyson said he was and that
his bond has been released.
Mr. Hay asked Mr. Wood whether he would say the situation is according to
Ordinance No. 60. Mr. Wood stated "yes" and that bond was released.
Mr. Hay stated that there were a great many complaints from neighboring
residents because of the blowing sand.
Mr. Ashmore stated that anyone who stock piles topsoil without permit will
be issued summons. Suggested City charge $10 per truck license and that
license be on truck.
Mr. Greene stated topsoil should be piled and then returned to residents and
that with land mover equipment they should be able to do this. What topsoil
is left can be sold.
Mr. Hay stated builder should be able to build house and give topsoil back
to purchaser for nothing.
Mr. Salinas stated that it sounds as though its a crime to be a subdivider.
Mr. Greene asked whether in this case the topsoil revision is dead. Mr. Hay
stated it looked like it.
Mr. Ventura stated that it is unless members have any recommendations.
Mr. David Lewis, Durable Home Builders stated it cost $1,500 and more a lot
to put in the improvements.
Mr. Harmon stated they wish to cooperate in any way possible and that with
present ordinance commission will have ample guide.
No one was present opposed to this petition.
Mr. Hay made the following motion which died for lack of support.
RESOLVED that, application by Kenneth Kerbyson (TA-1) for
a permit to remove topsoil from Parcels FF2,II3b.and
portion of Parcels GG,HH,II1 and II2 located on the North-
west corner of Inkster and Schoolcraft Roads in the South-
east 1/4 of Section 24 be denied.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Steinhoff and seconded by Mr. Harsha, it was
#4-115-55 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
the City Planning Commission does hereby grant the
application of Kenneth Kerbyson (TA-1) for a permit to remove
topsoil from Parcels FF2,II3b and portion of Parcels GG,HH,
II1 and II2 located on the Northwest corner of Inkster and
Schoolcraft Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 24, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, that a performance bond be fixed on the
above application at $400 an acre with maximum of $25,000
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and it is recommended to the Bureau of Inspection that a
permit to this effect be issued, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City De-
partments as listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Robinson, Conway, Lepo, Steinhoff, Harsha, Ventura
and Salinas
NAYS: Greene and Hay
Mr. Ashmore stated that if Mr. Harmon or Mr. Kerbyson feel this commission
is being unfair in regard to the amount of the bond that they so state now.
Mr. Kerbyson stated the bond is satisfactory and that he has no intention of
taking matter to court.
The secretary read petition dated February 10, 1955 from Burton Warner, Warner
& Warner requesting approval of the proposed Westrail Subdivision located on
the Northwest corner of Ann Arbor Trail and Levan Road in the South 1/2 of
Section 32. The secretary read letters dated April 8, 1955 from Hugh J. Wood,
Chief Inspector and April 8, 1955 from Calvin Roberts, Chief Livonia Fire
Department. Messrs. Warner and Clayton Fisher, 1663 Guardian Bldg., Detroit
Attorney were present.
Mr. Harsha, Chairman Plat Committee stated the lots appear to be sufficient
size. Mr. Steinhoff concurred.
Mr. Ventura stated he was asked by Mr. Michelson to inform commission that
they have no plans for school in this area at the present time.
Mr. Ventura asked whether they intend to establish greenbelt to separate
cemetery from subdivision. Mr. Warner stated he did not think so.
Mr. Steinhoff questioned the ravine. Mr. Warner stated the lots are large
enough with ravine in its present state. Might use surplus dirt there.
No one was present opposed to this subdivision.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Greene, seconded by Mr. Lepo and unanimously
carried, it was
#4-116-55 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
the City Planning Commission does hereby give tentative
approval of preliminary plat of Westrail Subdivision located
on the Northwest corner of Ann Arbor Trail and Levan Road in
the South 1/2 of Section 32, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the
abutting property owners, proprietor, City Departments as
listed in the Proof of Service and copies of the plat together
with notice having been sent to The Building Department, School
Board President, Superintendent of Schools, Members of the Plat
Committee, Parks and Recreation Department and Fire Department.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson, seconded by Mr. Lepo and unanimously
carried, it was
#4-117-55 RESOLVED that, the next Public Hearing to be held by the
City Planning Commission be set for May 10, 1955.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Lepo, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
carried, it was
#4-118-55 RESOLVED that, the Public Hearing held April 12, 1955 be
closed.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted and called the 64th
Special Meeting to order.
The secretary read letter dated March 30, 1955 from Irving Green, Green
Brothers Builders requesting approval of final plat of the Smiley-Ringwald
Subdivision located in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 35. The secretary read
letters dated April 5, 1955 from Herald Hamill, Engineer addressed to
Mrs. Marie Clark, City Clerk and dated March 28, 1955 from Mrs. Marie Clark,
City Clerk. Mr. Jack Scherr, 19460 James Couzens Highway was present
representing the petitioner.
Mr. Scherr stated all the improvements are in except the paving. Stated land
to the West is undeveloped.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson, seconded by Mr. Greene and
unanimously carried, it was
#4-119-55 RESOLVED that, final plat of Smiley-Ringwald Subdivision
located in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 35 be given final
approval provided the drive ways do not enter into Joy
Road from Lots 43 and 1, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, inasmuch as it appears on the records that.
tentative approval of said proposed plat was given by the
City Planning Commission under date of February 23, 1954;
and it further appearing that said proposed plat together
with the plans and specifications for improvements therein
have been approved by the Department of Public Works under
date of December 17, 1954 and oral report from W. R. McCary,
Superintendent of Public Works before City Council March 14,
1955 that the sewer and water have been installed; and it
further appearing that a bond in the amount of $40,000 to
cover the installation of improvements has been filed in the
office of the City Clerk under date of March 25, 1955; such
bond having been approved by Russell Ashmore, City Attorney
on March 28, 1955 it would therefore appear that all the
conditions necessary to the release of building permits have
been met and the Building Department is hereby so notified.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary read letter dated April 1, 1955 from Charles Helman, Grandville
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Construction Company requesting approval of final plat of Heiman Park Sub-
division, No. 2 located in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 9. The secretary
read letters dated April 6, 1955 from Herald Hamill, Engineer addressed to
Mrs. Marie W. Clark, City Clerk and dated April 5, 1955 from Mrs. Marie W.
Clark, City Clerk. Messrs. Heiman and Burton Warner, Warner & Warner were
present.
Mr. Heiman stated he has storm sewer and water in and that he has started
on the roads.
No one was present opposed to the approval of the final plat.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Conway and seconded by Mr. Hay, it was
#4-120-55 RESOLVED that, final plat of Heiman Park Subdivision, No. 2
located in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 9 be given final
approval, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, inasmuch as it appears on the records that
tentative approval of said proposed plat was given by the
City Planning Commission under date of July 21, 1953 and an
extension of six months was granted November 23, 1954; and it
further appearing that said proposed plat together with the
plans and specifications for improvements therein have been
approved by the Department of Public Works under date of
March 28, 1955; and it further appearing that a bond in the
amount of $28,500 to cover the installation of improvements
has been filed in the office of the City Clerk under date of
April 4, 1955 such bond having been approved by Russell C.
Ashmore, City Attorney on April 5, 1955 it would therefore
appear that all the conditions necessary to the release of
building permits have been met and the Building Department is
hereby so notified.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Conway, Greene, Lepo, Steinhoff, Hay, Harsha, Ventura
and Salinas
NAYS: Robinson.
The secretary read letter dated March 3, 1955 from Irvin Hermanoff, Secretary
Harry Slatkin Builders, Inc. requesting approval of final plats Country Homes
Subdivision, No. 2 and Country Homes Subdivision, No. 3 located in the West
1/2 of Section 33 and the East 1/2 of Section 32. The secretary read letters
dated April 12, 1955 from Mrs. Marie W. Clark, City Clerk addressed to
Mr. Donald M. Pierce, Chief Division of Engineering Michigan Department of
Health, Lansing; dated February 9, 1955 from Mrs. Marie W. Clark, City
Clerk addressed to Harry Slatkin Builders, Inc. regarding Country Homes
Subdivision, No. 2 and dated February 9, 1955 from Mrs. Marie W. Clark, City
Clerk addressed to Harry Slatkin Builders, Inc. regarding Country Homes Sub-
division, No. 3. Messrs. Irvin Hermanoff and William Munger were present.
Mr. Ashmore asked the reason this is on the agenda when a bond has not been
posted. Stated all subdividers have to file bond before there can be approval
of final plat.
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Mr. Hermanoff read portion of letter dated February 4, 1955 addressed to C7'
Mr. Frederick R. Storrer froth the City Planning Commission which made no
mention of a bond having to be filed before final approval. Stated there is
no rush for final approval as far as they are concerned.
Mr. Salinas stated it is impossible to insert all the Planning Commission's
procedures in a letter of this type.
Mr. Ashmore read portions of letter dated October 5, 1954 addressed to the
Planning Commission from his office.
Mr. Munger stated the bond has been set but has not been filed.
Mr. Ashmore stated the City Council April 11, 1955 made a special exception
in that they agreed to issue 40 building permits.
Mr. Munger stated he understood the $10,000 is to prevent tap-in of 40 homes.
Mr. Hermanoff stated they are not asking to record plat. Stated in good
faith and based on letter giving tentative approval they had no intention
of not following procedure. Stated they thought final approval was just the
comparison of the linen plat with the paper plat so that substantially they
are the same.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Harsha, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
carried, it was
#4-121-55 RESOLVED that, final approval of Country Homes Subdivision, No. 2
and Country Homes Subdivision, No. 3 located in the West 1/2 of
Section 33 and the East 1/2 of Section 32 be tabled until such
time as the requirements of Zoning Ordinance, No. 60 and Sub-
division Rules and Regulations have been met.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition No.
Z-95 by Jesse M. Cook, Cook Development Company asking that the zoning
classification of portion of Parcels Ulb, Ula6, Ula2, Ulal, U2b, U2a and
all of Parcel Ula7, Lots 731b, 731a and 730, Supervisor's Livonia Plat, No.
11 located 600 feet East of the Southern tip of Levan Road between Ann Arbor
Trail and Joy Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 32 be changed from RUFB
to R-1-B and Petition No. Z-97 also by Jesse M. Cook, Cook Development Company
asking that the zoning classification of a portion of Lot 723 and all of
Lots 724 and 725, Supervisor's Livonia Plat, No. 11 located approximately
1,550 feet West of Wayne Road between Ann Arbor Trail and Joy Road in the
Southeast 1/4 of Section 32 be changed from RUFB to R-1-B. Mr. Cook was
present.
Mr. Steinhoff stated he contacted Mrs. Matyscik, 35871 Ann Arbor Trail and
that she stated she did not want to be bothered by anyone anymore and that
she wished her land be left as it is. Stated property on Joy Road has
changed ownership by Land Contract to Ciro Grana, 35800 Joy Road, Stated
Mr. Grana does not want land rezoned.
Statement taken from Mrs. Frank Matyscik, 35871 Ann Arbor Trail at approxi-
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mately 9:10 p.m. in the presence of Messrs. Peter A. Ventura, Russell Ashmore
and Rudolf R. Kleinert. Mrs. Matyscik stated Mr. Cook wanted her to sign a
letter and that she did not want him or anyone else bothering her. Stated
her husband is very ill and that she could not wait until the petitions
were heard tonight. Stated that when they did not buy her property she did
not want to be bothered by them. Mentioned that they placed their surveyor
stick inside her fence and that this did not please her.
Mr. Ashmore asked whether Mr. Cook threatened her. Mrs. Matyscik stated he
stated he was going to build school next to her.
Mr. Ashmore asked whether she objected to her property being rezoned.
Mrs. Matyscik stated do not want it and why should she want it.
Mrs. Frank Matyscik left after she made her statement.
Mr. Cook stated that Mrs. Matyscik and Mr. Grana have left him in a difficult
position. Stated that he should not be deprived of the most use of his
property because of this fact. Stated that the only parcels he asked to be
rezoned are those that he owned.
Mr. Ventura read portion of Section 20.01, Zoning Ordinance, No. 60.
Mr. Ashmore stated that this commission is always going to have this problem
of spot zoning in reverse. Stated this commission can initiate petition on
its own motion.
Mr. Cook Stated every excepted parcel on his proposed plat represents a home.
Stated he could not see how these people would be damaged in any way.
Mr. Ventura stated it is very poor planning to have spot zoning in reverse.
Mr. Ventura asked Mr. Ashmore if it would be his advice to initiate petition
to change zoning.
Mr. Greene asked what in the event Mrs. Matyscik appears and objects to her
property being rezoned. Mr. Ashmore stated commission has power to over—ride
her objection.
Mr. Cook asked what his recourse was seeing people own narrow strip of land
in midst of 100 acres whether he could be deprived of his rights. Mr. Ashmore
stated that Mr. Cook had no rights as he is the speculator who came into area.
Peter A. Ventura relinquished the Chair to Vice—Chairmen H. Paul Harsha at
approximately 12:45 a.m.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ventura, seconded by Mr. Salinas and
unanimously carried, it was
#4-122-55 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on March 29, 1955 on Petitions No. Z-95 and No. Z-97 as sub— 4_P1_0-s
mitted by Jesse M. Cook, Cook Development Company for a change
of zoning in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 32 from RUB to R-1—B
the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City
Council that Petition No. Z-95 and No. Z-97 be granted, and
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FURTHER RESOLVED, the City Planning Commission at this time
on its own motion hereby provides for a Public Hearing to be
held to rezone Lots 726 and 727, Supervisor's Livonia Plat,
No. 11 from RUFB to R-1-B and that notice of said hearing be "all
mailed to the owners of these two lots by registered mail
return receipt, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published
in the official newspaper, The Livonian under date of
March 10, 1955 and notice of which hearing was sent to The
Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company,
Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The Consumers Power Company
City Departments and petitioner as listed in the Proof of
Service.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary read letter dated April 8, 1955 from Russell Ashmore regarding
Petition No. V-8 by Robert J. Eoff, et al asking that a 20 foot drainage
easement across Lots 9, 10 and 11, Bell Creek Farms Subdivision, No. 1
located on the West side of Bell Creek Lane approximately 560 feet East of
Farmington Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 15 be vacated and that the
20 foot drainage easement as described in the petition and amended by L. N.
Hayden's description dated February 9, 1955 be recorded and made a part of
the plat. The secretary also read letter dated March 30, 1955 from Dyer C.
Baird.
*****Lieutenant Bob Perry left meeting at approximately 12:45 a.m.
Mr. Ashmore stated the existing easement does not follow stream bed but with
the new easement it will follow existing stream bed and that this corrects a
mistake.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
carried, it was
#4-123-55 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on March 29, 1955 the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that the easement as legally
described in Petition No. V-8 as submitted by Robert Eoff, et
al be vacated from the North boundary of Lot 9 to the Southern
boundary of Lot 11, Bell Creek Farms Subdivision, No. 1 and
that a new easement be created by proper instrument according
to the legal description attached to the petition dated
February 9, 1955, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published
in the official newspaper, The Livonian under date of March 10,
1955 and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison
Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Tele-
phone Company, The Consumers Power Company, City Departments
petitioner and abutting property owners as listed in the Proof
of Service.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The Chairman appointed Messrs. Lepo, Conway and Robinson to attend City
Council meetings during the period April 15, 1955 to May 15, 1955.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Harsha, seconded by Mr. Conway and unanimously
carried, it was
#4-124-55 RESOLVED that, The Chairman Peter A. Ventura and the Secretary,
Rufino Salinas be appointed as a committee and impowered to act
in the matter of part time help for the secretary.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson and seconded by Mr. Greene, it was
#4-125-55 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby authorize
Mr. Albe Munson to proceed with the USGS Map at 800' scale at the
approximate cost of $62.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Robinson, Conway, Greene, Lepo, Steinhoff, Hay, Harsha
Ventura and Salinas
NAYS: None
Mr. Hay asked whether any other department of the City would be using these
maps. Mr. Ventura stated the D.P.W. might.
Mr. Ashmore stated he would find out about this and investigate the possibility
of having the City Council pay for this map out of the General Fund and of
ordering more copies.
The secretary read letter dated April 1, 1955 from Mayor Hartom and the
Chairman suggested that members read report dated March 29, 1955 from Wayne
County Department of Health regarding combined sewers.
The secretary read letter dated March 29, 1955 from Mrs. K. Dubpernell,
Secretary, Traffic Commission regarding amending Zoning Ordinance, No. 60 to
require two parking spaces per dwelling containing two units or more.
Mi.. Ashmore stated there will be four changes to Zoning Ordinance, No. 60 and
that this is one of the four.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Conway and seconded by Mr. Hay, it was
#4-126-55 RESOLVED that, Inter Departmental Transfer No. 672 in the
amount of $70.39 be approved and referred to the proper
department for payment.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Robinson, Conway, Lepo, Greene, Steinhoff, Hay, Harsha
Ventura and Salinas
NAYS: None
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Lepo and seconded by Mr. Steinhoff, it was
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#4-127-55 RESOLVED that, statement from The Livonian, Inc. in the amount ,:"
of $63.75 be approved and referred to the proper department
for payment.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Robinson, Conway, Lepo, Greene, Steinhoff, Hay, Harsha
Ventura and Salinas
NAYS; None
Upon a motion duly made by Me. Lepo and seconded by Mr. Greene, it was
#4-128-55 RESOLVED that, statement dated April 1, 1955 from Mr. Albe
Munson in the amount of $309.56 be approved and referred to
the proper department for payment.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Robinson, Conway, Lepo, Greene, Steinhoff, Hay, Harsha
Ventura and Salinas
NAYS: None
The secretary read letter dated March 11, 1955 from Mrs. Marie W. Clark
regarding Ordinance No. 97 and Map No. 13 prepared by Herald Hamill for this
commission's approval and clarification of Mr. Hamill's notations.
The commission referred Mrs. Clark's letter to the City Attorney.
Mr. Ventura stated he talked to Mr. Munson and that he (Mr. Munson) suggested
a joint meeting of Planning Commission and City Council at which time they
will present letter and plans of a planning program instead of formulating a
brochure as authorized by Resolution No. 3-89-55. Stated Mr. Munson advised
that the cost would be less if it was handled in this manner. Stated that
inasmuch as there is a study meeting April 26, 1955 he would endeavor to have
City Council present.
Mr. Greene asked whether it is wise to take matter of this type before the
City Council without having an idea of what Mr. Munson's planning program is.
It was decided that commission would discuss this further at the study
meeting.
Mr. Ashmore stated that if there should be a change in Zoning Ordinance to
allow Drive-1n Theaters it is up to the City Planning Commission and the
City Council. Stated where a drive-in is to be located is a matter of zoning
and should come before this commission and that who operates the drive-in
should be handled by the City Council in the same manner as liqueur license.
Suggested that if this commission did not agree with this that they make
their recommendations now. Mr. Ventura stated Mr. Munson is to present to
this commission as much information as available on this subject and that
this commission should not jump into anything.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously carried, this Public Hearing
and 64th Special Meeting of the City Planning Commission was duly adjourned
at 1:15 a.m., April 13, 1955.
Rufino alines, Secretary
Robert L. Greene, Acting Secretary
ATTESTED:
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Peter A. Ventura, Chairman
aul Hars a, Vice-Chairman