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MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE
FORTY-SEVENTH REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
liA Public Hearing and the 4itn Regular Meeting of the City Planning Commission
were Held on Tuesday, July 2U, 1954 at tne City Hall, Livonia, Michigan.
Cnairman Peter A. Ventura called the Public Hearing to order at approximately
8:03 p.m.
Members ,present: William Robinson Karla Steinhoff H. Paul Harsha
Edwin Conway Dallas F. Hay Peter A. Ventura
Adelaide Neilsen Rufino Salinas
Members absent: *Robert L. Greene
Mr. Malcolm F. Waring, Planning Consultant; Mr. Max Koehler, Building Inspector
and Mr. Karl Olsen were present together with approximately 3U people attending
the public nearing and the regular meeting.
The secretary read the petition of Carl D. Wall Company dated June 7, 1954 and
June 8, 1954 asking permission to establish a Heat Treat Plant on Lot 38,
Schoolcraft Manor Subdivision, No. 2 located on tne West side of Newburg Road
approximately 875 feet Soutn of Schoolcraft Road in the Northeast 1/4 of
Section 30. The secretary also read the letter dated July 9, 1954 from the
Livonia Fire Department.
IL: *Mr. Robert L. Greene arrived at approximately 8:05 p.m.
Tne following were present opposed to tnis petition:
Mrs. J. 0. Burk
Mr. and Mrs. George Hisle, 13175 Newburg
Mr. and Mrs. Cnarles R. Bowen, 13201 Newburg
Mr. and Mrs. Joseph McNeil, 37571 Scnoolcraft
Mr. Wilfred R. Cann, 14475 Newburg
Mr. F. Barringer, 37551 Scnoolcraft
Mr. C. Marsh, 37025 Scnoolcraft
Mr. Hisle stated that he bought property ten years ago at which tine it was
zoned small farm. Protested when the Zoning Ordinance was adopted that changed
property along Schoolcraft.
Mr. Harsna presented the old zoning map (1945) showing this area to be zoned
M-2.
Mr. Ventura stated tnat residents did not come before Planning Commission ask-
ing area to be zoned back to residential. No former action to this effect was
ever taken.
Mr. Waring stated that Mr. Hisle's lot is on boundary line between residential
and industrial.
IL: Mr. Bowen asked about tne greenbelt. Mr. Salinas stated that a greenbelt is
required just on the side near residential property.
Mr. Barringer stated that area should be residential except tne three lots on
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Schooicraft and submitted deed showing this. Objected to fumes. Stated the
American Vitrified is not as dirty as a Heat Treat Plant.
No one was present representing the petitioner.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and
unanimously carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the petition of Carl D. Wall Company for permission to
establish a Heat Treat Plant on Lot 38, Scnoolcraft Manor Subdivision
No. 2 located on the West side of Newburg Road approximately 875 feet
South or Schoolcrart Road in the Nortneast 1/4 or Section 30 be denied.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary read Petition No. V-5, W. J. White, Treasurer Coventy Corporation
asking tnat the six foot easement adjacent to the East line or Lot 30t ,arid the
six root easement adjacent to the Soutn line or Lot 305, Coventry Gardens Sub-
division located on the Southeast corner of Rayburn Avenue and Surrey Road in
the Southeast 1/4 of Section lb be vacated. Secretary also read letter dated
July 9, 1954 from James A. Nicholas, Acting Supt. of Public Works and dated
duly 19, 1954 from Jack M. Menig, The Detroit Edison Company.
Mr. W. J. White was present and submitted a plat of the storm sewers showing
the mistake when the sewers were originally established.
No one was present opposed to the petition.
Mr. Robinson asked where the new easements would be recorded. It was
established they would be recorded by quit claim deed.
upon a motion duly made by Mr. Conway, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the City Planning Commission on consideration or
Petition No. V-5, W. J. White, Treasurer Coventry Corporation do
hereby recommend to the City Council that the six foot easement
adjacent to the East line or Lot 306 and the six foot easement
adjacent to the South line of Lot 305, Coventry Gardens Sub-
division in the Southeast 1/4 or Section lb be vacated subject
to a six root easement being provided over the sewer as it now
exists across Lot 305.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary read the petition of H. Jaffa dated July b, 1954 asking
permission to erect two procelain enamel signs illuminated by neon on Parcel
EE2 located on the Northwest corner or Farmington and Plymouth Roads in the
Southeast 1/4 or Section 28. The secretary also read the recommendation of
Waring am Johnson dated July 20, 1974. Mr. H. Jaffa was present.
No one was present opposed to this petition.
There was a lengthy discussion regarding the maximum height or tne signs as
regulated by Section 11.01 (h) or tne Zoning Ordinance. It was established
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that Mohawk Lumber Company had 2,181 surface feet or sign area whetner tne
sign is free standing or not.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson, seconded by Mr. Conway and
unanimously carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the petition of H. Jaffa, Mohawk Lumber & Supply Company
for permission to erect two procelain enamel signs illuminated by neon
be granted provided Sign No. 1 does not exceed the maximum height of 35
feet as regulated by the Zoning Ordinance, Section 11.01 Sub-section (h).
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary read tne petition or Carl A. Goers and David 0. Johnson dated
July 7, 1954 for permission to construct a 2-say Standard Oil Station on Lots
53 through 58 and West 1/2 of Lot >9, Five Elm Park Subdivision located on the
Southeast corner of Middlebelt and Five Mile Roads in the Northwest 1/4 or
Section 24. The secretary also read tne letter dated July 19, 1954 from the
Fire Department.
No one was present opposed to the petition.
Messrs Goers and Johnson were present and submitted a plot plan. Stated tnat
tne proposed station would be the same as tne one located on Five Mile and
Farmington Roads.
There was a lengthy discussion regarding the alley being used for an entrance
to the gasoline station. There was a question whetner the Planning Commission
had the authority to permit use of alley for private use.
Mr. Ventura suggested a revised plot plan be submitted whereby tne alley would
not be used.
Mr. Johnson stated that to his knowledge Standard Oil Always have obtained the
approval of the State or County as to use of an alley.
Mr. Hay stated that the alley does not concern the commission as this is a
question of approval of a gasoline service station on lots as described in
petition.
Mr. Salinas stated there are four gasoline stations between Middlebelt and
Farmington Roads and tnat tne Standard Station located at Five Mile and
Farmington is vacant most of the time. Opposed to petition for these reasons.
Mr. Johnson stated that in his opinion Standard Oil would not invest 165,000
in a station if they did not consider it would pay its own way.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Conway and seconded by Mr. Robinson, it was
RESOLVED, tnat petition of Carl A. Goers and David 0. Johnson for
permission to construct a 2-Bay Standard Oil Station on Lots 53
tnrough >8 and West 1/2 of Lot 59, Five Elm Park Subdivision located
on the Southeast corner of Middlebelt and Five Mile Road in the
Northwest 1/4 of Section 24 be granted subject to receipt of letter
from the County Road Commission showing their approval and copy or
plan of approach of alley on Middlebelt Road.
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A roll call vote on the foregoing g Ing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Robinson, Conway, Nielsen, Greene, Steinhoff, Hay, Harsha and Ventura
NAYS: Salinas
The Chairman called a recess at approximately y:1) p.m.
*Mr. Robert L. Greene lett meeting at approximately y:20 p.m.
The Chairman called the 47tn Regular Meeting to order at approximately 9:35 p.m.
The secretary announced that tne first item on the agenda was the Salem Farms
Subdivision, No. 1 located approximately 655 feet East of Gill Road with a
frontage on tne North side of Seven Mile Road of approximately 655 feet in the
Southeast 1/4 of Section 4. The secretary read the report from the Wayne
County Hoara of Health regarding the land in area being adaptable for septic
tanks and the letter dated July 20, 1954 from J. A. Nicholas, Acting Supt.
of Public Works stating that as much water as possible snould be diverted to
the North to the Tarabusi Drain.
Messrs. Loel R. Hellman and Seymour Winiker were present.
Mr. Olsen stated tnere were no additions to present scnools planned at tnis
time nor in the near future.
Mr. Ventura stated he was opposed to septic tanks.
Mr. Winiker stated there were no storm sewers in Livonia Gardens Subdivision
whereas Salem Sales Company will provide tnese in Salem Farms Subdivision.
Mr. Ventura stated the street names were not shown on the plat.
Mr. Salinas stated the easements were not shown on the plat.
Mr. Hellman stated they were not sure whetner the proposed homes would have
basements or not.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson and seconded by Mr. Steinhoff, it' was
RESOLVED, that the proposed Salem Farms Subdivision, No. 1 located
approximately b55 feet East of Gill Road with a frontage on the
Nortn side or Seven Mile Road of approximately 655 feet in the South-
east 1/4 or Section 4 be denied as the plat is not properly presented,
no school facilities and septic tanks are not desirable.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Robinson, Steinhoff and Ventura
NAYS: Conway, Nielsen, Harsha, Hay and Salinas
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution lost.
Mr. Salinas asked why plat was not denied in the first place instead of making
petitioner return.
Mr. Ventura stated the commission is not legal counsel and that commission is
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only to tell petitioner what they must do. Even a tentative approval of a
preliminary plat shall not consitute an acceptance of a subdivision.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mr. Conway and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the proposed Salem Farms Subdivision, No. 1 located
approximately 655 feet East of Gill Road with a frontage on the
North side of Seven Mile Road of approximately b55 feet in the South-
east 1/4 of Section 4 be tabled until August 17, 1954 in order that
petitioner may submit revised plat showing easements, street names and
it is suggested that the size of the lots be increased.
The Unairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was the Evelyn Burns
Subdivision located approximately 530 feet North of Six Mile Road and approxi-
mately 3,250 feet West of Farmington Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 9.
The secretary read letters dated July 20, 1954 from tne Building Department,
and dated June 29, 1954 from the Livonia Fire Department.
Mr. Donald Burns was present and submitted a revised plat and a letter addressed
to himself dated July lb, 1954 from tne Livonia Public Schools regarding the
school site in this area.
Mr. Ventura stated that the plat does not meet tne requirement of the Sub-
division Rules and Regulations as tne lot sizes are not shown.
1['s Mr. Olsen stated that the Park and Recreation Department nas not given official
approval of the new site.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson, seconded by Mr. Conway and
unanimously carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the proposed Evelyn Burns Subdivision located approximately
53u feet North of Six Mile Road and approximately 3,250 feet West of
Farmington Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 9 be tabled until
August 17, 1954 in order that petitioner's proposed plat conform with the
Subdivision Rules and Regulations.
The Cnairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was tne Olde Indian
Trail Subdivision having an approximate frontage of 850 feet on the South side
of Ann Arbor Trail at Levan Road in the South 1/2 of Section 32. The secretary
read the letter dated July lb, 1954 from Warner and Warner.
Messrs Albert Simkins, Ned Smokler and Burton Warner were present.
Mr. Olsen stated an additional school would depend on tne development of the
area.
Mr. George Simon, 3b750 Joy Road stated his land abutts proposed subdivision.
and asked whether he would be obliged to help pay for sewers and water brought
in by subdividers.
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Mr. Simkins stated he would not and that the existing sewer and water lines
on Ann Arbor Trail are being extended into the subdivision.
Mr. Arthur A. (tennis, 36165 Joy Road was present but had nothing to add.
Mr. Ventura stated that the proposed plat was not prepared according to State
Law or Planning.
Mr. Warner questioned whether this had reference to preliminary plats.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Salinas and seconded by Mr. Hay, it was
RESOLVED, that the proposed Olde Indian Trail Subdivision having an
approximate frontage :of tSSU feet on the Soutn side of Ann Arbor Trail
at Levan Road in the Soutn 1/2 or Section 32 be given tentative
approval insofar as it relates to planning and that such plat is
identified by the signatures of tne Secretary and the Cnairman or tne
City Planning Commission.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Robinson, Conway, Nielsen, Ray, Marsha and Salinas
• NAYS: Steinhoff and Ventura
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was the petition or
Charles Siegmund, Motor City Oil Company asking approval or bulk oil storage
on Lot 91a, Dutch Mill Subdivision located on the Soutn side or Five Mile
Road about 120 feet West of Santa Anita in the Nortneast 1/4 of Section 24.
The secretary read letters dated July 20, 1954 from the Livonia Police Depart—
ment, letter dated June 23, 1954 from the Livonia Fire Department and the
recommendation of Waring and Johnson dated June 14, 1954.
Mr. Siegmund was present and stated that Chief Roberts inspected property witn
nim yesterday and the Cnier stated that the proposed bulk oil storage was not
a fire hazard.
Mr. Salinas asked it the number or trucks was to be increased. Mr. Siegmund
stated ne would increase the trucks as the business increased. Stated tnat
ne delivers oil to home owners.
Mr. Salinas stated he did not consider this a desirable business in this area
and this size of lot.
Mrs. Nielsen stated she was concerned with ingress and egress.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Salinas, seconded by mr. Robinson and
unanimously carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the petition or Charles Siegmund, Motor City Oil Company
requesting approval of Bulk Oil Storage on Lot 91a, Dutch Mill Sub—
division located on the South side of Five Mile Road about 12U feet West
of Santa Anita in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 24 be denied.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced tnat the next item on the agenda was the letter dated
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June lb, 1954 from Mr. Victor C. Adler, Newnan Farms Inc. requesting to be
heard regarding petition by Moore Sign Inc. for permission to erect two signs
which petition was denied by the commission June 1, 1954.
Mr. Adler was present and stated that the two signs conform with tne spirit
of the ordinance.
Mr. Salinas stated that the petition was discussed and acted upon at the
previous meeting and sign should come down.
The commission agreed that this matter had been fully discussed and there was
no need of going into it again.
upon a motion duly made by Mr. narsna, seconded by Mr. Salinas and
unanimously carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the commission procede with the next item on the agenda.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on tne agenda was the petition of
Lincoln Welton for permission to erect a Lutheran Church on a part of Parcel
Hlala located on the East side of Farmington Road approximately luu feet South
of West Chicago in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 34.
Messrs Welton and Madsen were present and submitted a plot plan showing
maximum building that could oe built on this lot.
The secretary read a letter dated July 20, 1954 from Lincoln Welton,
It was questioned by the commission whether there would be adequate parking
facilities if tne required greenbelts were established. Mr. Waring stated
the car space could be 20 feet instead of as shown on the plot plan.
Mr. Welton stated )0 feet would be available behind the parsonage that could
be used for parking if necessary. Stated it was their intent to comply with
the ordinance in regard to parking.
Upon a motion duly made by- Mr. Marsha, seconded by Mr. Conway and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that petition by Lincoln Welton for permission to erect a
Lutheran Church on a part of Parcel Hlala located on the East side of
Farmington Road approximately 100 feet South of West Chicago and Lot
1922, Rosedale hardens Subdivision, No. 12 in the Southwest 1/4 of
Section 34, be granted.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that tne next item on the agenda was the proposed
Edward Rose Chicago Subdivision located approximately one quarter mile East
1[1s of Middlebelt Road on tne North side or West Chicago in the Northwest 1/4 of
Section 3b. Mr. oacobson was present and submitted a revised plat.
Mr. Steinhoff stated seven lots are l.bb foot short.
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upon a motion duly made by Mr. Conway, seconded by Mr. Salinas and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the proposed Edward Rose Chicago Subdivision located
approximately one quarter mile East of Middlebelt Road on the North '
side of West Chicago in the Nortnwest 1/4 of Section 36 be given
tentative approval subject to the seven lots situated East of Hartel
being brought up to size and a 10 foot walk-way being established
at Hartel Court extending Eastward through to the park and sucn plat
is identified by the signatures of the Secretary and the Chairman of
tne City Planning Commission.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on tne agenda was the petition of
Clifford A. Green to conduct an open-air sale to be known as "Livonia Lawn
and Garden Supply" on Lots 144 through 149, Schanhitets Marquette Manor Sub-
division located at 12275 Inkster Road and situated on the Southwest corner
of Inkster and Grantland Avenues in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 25.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and unanimously , '
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that tne petition of Clifford A. Green to conduct an open-
air sale to be known as "Livonia Lawn and Garden Supply" on Lots 144
through 149, Schanhite's Marquette Manor Subdivision located at 12275
Inkster Road and situated on the Southwest corner or Inkster Road and
Grandland Avenue in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 25 be tabled until
August 17, 1954 as per tne request of the petitioner dated July 20,
1954.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Rev. Jonn Davies, St. Paul's Presbyterian Church was present requesting
clarification as to whetner there should be a Public Hearing for the proposed
church.
Mr. Ventura stated that when the commission granted Petition No. V-3 they
knew there was to be a new church at tnis location.
upon a motion duly made oy Mr. Harsha, seconded oy Mr. Conway and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the action of the previous meeting April 13, 1954 to
which approval was given to vacate alley Soutn of Lots 13 to 25,
inclusive B. E. Taylor's Como Lake Subdivision located in the North-
east 1/4 of Section 24 was all the action that was needed by tne City
Planning Commission insofar as the new churcn is concerned.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary read the letter dated June 25, 1954 from the Building Department
regarding the greenbelt to be established on property South of Plymouth Road
between Harrison and Deering Avenues.
It was the opinion of the commission that this matter has been discussed on
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several occasions and that tne property owners have had sufficient time to
IL: conform with the ordinance.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Conway, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and
unanimously carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the Building Department be instructed to issue a
violation to the property owners on the South side of Plymouth Road
between Harrison and Deering Avenues if tney have not complied witn
the Zoning Ordinance in regard to tne necessary greenbelt.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mrs. Nielsen and
unanimously carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the written opinion from the City Attorney requested
June 25, 1954 on the letter addressed to the City Planning Commission
from Mr. William Brashear dated May 18, 1951 and the letter addressed
to the City Council from Mr. William Brashear dated January 2, 1952
be tabled until August 17, 1954 in order to give the City Attorney
an opportunity to reply.
'Me Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was tne opinion
dated May 5, 1954 from Waring and Johnson regarding control on entrances
on residential streets.
Mr. Harsha stated that he had given this matter considerable study but that
he had not formulated an amendment to the ordinance. Stated that ne was not
in complete accord with the suggestion of Mr. Waring in his letter May 5, 1954
It was agreed by the commission that Messrs. Marsha and Conway should give
this matter more study.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mr. Steinnofr and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the minutes or the meeting June 22, 1954 be tabled
until August 1'l, 1954 in order to give the members further
opportunity to read them.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mr. Salinas and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the statement of Waring and Johnson dated July 1, 1954
in the amount of ;195.39 be forwarded to the proper department for
IL: payment.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Salinas stated that ne noted that the china and pottery located on the
Northwest corner of Five Mile Road and Reddon Road which petition was denied
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by the commission July 13, 1954 had been moved back about 30 feet from the M"
road and not removed completely. Stopped into house and Mrs. Boone stated
she had talked to City Attorney at which time he stated they had 3U days to
correct the situation. Mrs. Boone stated that if the City of Livonia en- :,
forces the commission's denial they would take it to court.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Salinas and seconded by Mrs. Nielsen, it was
RESOLVED, that tne Building Department be instructed to issue a
violation to Thomas D. Boone 30 days from date of this Regular
Meeting if the china and pottery has not been removed from the
Northwest corner of Five Mile and Reddon Roads in the Southeast
1/4 of Section 13.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Robinson, Conway, Nielsen, Steinhoff, Ventura and Salinas
NAYS: Marsha and Hay
Mr. Robinson stated that Mr. Bernie Binkley is still repairing cars in the
open at the South side of Five Mile Road and East or Bainbridge in the North-
west 1/4 of Section 23.
Mr. Salinas stated that he would call the Building Department July 21, 1954
and remind them tnat a permit is not to be issued until the old trucks, etc.
have been removed.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hay, seconded by Mr. Robinson and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that this meeting be adjourned.
At approximately 12:15 a.m. tne Chairman declared the meeting adjourned.
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RufiSalinas, Secretary
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Peter A. Ventura, Chairman