HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1954-03-09 573
MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE
FORTY-SEVENTH SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
A Public Hearing and the k7th Special Meeting of the City Planning Commission
were held on March 9, 1954 at the City Hall, Livonia, Michigan.
Chairman Dallas F. Hay called the Public Hearing to order at approximately
b:07 p.m.
Members present: William Newton Irving Geer Dallas F. Hay
Clarence Jahn Robert L. Greene Rufino Salinas
Edwin Conway
Members absent: *Peter Ventura
H. Paul Harsha
Mr. Herzberg, Asst. to Mr. Malcolm Waring, Planning Consultant; Mr. Howard
Middlebelt, Building Inspector; and Mr. Max Koehler, Building Inspector were
present, together with approximately 50 people attending the.Public Hearing
and the Special Meeting.
The secretary announced that the first item on the agenda was the J. Ziegler
Woods Subdivision, No. 2 located North of Dover Avenue between Middlebelt
and Henry Ruff Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 35. The secretary read
the petition dated February 16, 1954 from Rose Hill Builders, Mr. Aubrey H.
Ettenheimer was present.
Mr. Salinas asked Mr. Ettenheimer if it was true that at the previous meeting
he 'had stated that to cut all the streets through would not meet favor with
the F.H.A.
Mr. Ettenheimer stated that that was true and submitted a drawing showing
the streets cut through and how it would affect the surrounding area. He
also stated that the plat he has submitted simultaneously places in escrow
with the City of Livonia a deed conveying title to Lots 46, 51, 56, 65, 70
and 75 which deed will be held in escrow until the plat has been recorded in
Wayne County Records, at which time it will be recorded. This plan would
eliminate the necessity of condemnation.
The following from Bonaparte Gardens Subdivision were in agreement that if
the plat is approved, the new home owners would have the privilege of
petitioning not to have the streets cut through. It is up to the subdivider
to completely develop the subdivision and that the taxpayers should not have
to pay for streets. Would want the streets developed the same time
J. Ziegler Woods is developed.
Walter H. Raven, 9101 Middlebelt Road
Dennis L. Bufford, 9171 Beatrice
Frederick Britt, 9135 Fremont
John S. Watson, 9105 Middlebelt
W. A. Albitus, Sr., 9105 Melvin
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Mr. Salinas stated that he was in agreement with the Bonaparte Garden
residents insofar as the taxpayers should not have to stand the expense
of developing these streets.
Mr. Ettenheimer stated that he has never objected to completely develop a
subdivision but that he did not consider it good planning to cut through all
seven streets. He would be willing to cut through three streets.
Mr. Brashear arrived at approximately 8:40 p.m.
There was discussion of the closing of Cathedral Street.
Mr. Hay stated that in his opinion Messrs. Green and Alper should be here
and something should be worked out whereby the streets would be cut through.
Mr. Brashear stated that it was not the function of the City Planning
Commission to decide who will pay for the streets, that that decision would
be up to the City Council.
Mr. Raven suggested that there be a joint meeting with the City Council, City
Planning Commission and a representative of Bonaparte Gardens Subdivision.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Greene, seconded by Mr. Conway and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the petition for approval of the proposed plat of
J. Ziegler Woods Subdivision, No. 2 be adjourned to some future
date for a joint meeting with the City Council and that the
residents of Bonaparte Gardens Subdivision be notified at least
seven days in advance of such meeting.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. Clarence Jahn left the meeting at approximately 9:00 p.m.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was the proposed
plat of Gordon and Scheurman Subdivision located on the Southeast corner of
Seven Mile and Gill Roads and approximately 800 feet West of Stamford Avenue
in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 9. The secretary read the petition dated
February 23, 1954 from Warner and Warner. The secretary also read the
recommendation of Waring and Johnson dated March 8, 1954. Mr. Burton Warner
and Mr. Gordon were present.
Mr. Warner stated that they had not met with the Board of Education and the
Park and Recreation Commission regarding the school and park site in this
area.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Geer, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the proposed plat of Gordon and Scheurman Subdivision
located on the Southeast corner of Seven Mile and Gill Roads and
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approximately ts00 feet West of Stamford Avenue in the Northeast
1/4 of Section 9 be tabled until April 13, 1954 in order to give
Mr. Warner the opportunity to meet with the Board of Education and
the Park and Recreation Commission regarding the school site as
shown on the Master School and Park Plan.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The Chairman announced that the Public Hearing would be adjourned
The Chairman called a recess at approximately 9:15 p.m.
*Mr. Peter Ventura arrived at approximately 9:20 p.m.
The Chairman called the 47th Special Meeting to order at approximately 9:32 p.m.
The secretary announced that the first item on the agenda was Petition V-3
by Rev. John G. Davies, asking that the first 20 foot alley situated South
of Five Mile Road between Arcola and Cavell Streets in the Northeast 1/4
of Section 24 be vacated. The secretary read the revised recommendation of
Waring and Johnson dated March ts, 1954; letter dated March ts, 1954 from
Mr. H. C. Metcalf, Michigan Bell Telephone Company; and letter dated
March 4, 1954 from Herald F. Hamill, City Engineer. Rev. Davies was present.
Rev. Davies stated that the recommendation of the Detroit Edison Company and
Mr. Hamill has been agreed upon as to the new easement and that St. Paul's
Presbyterian Church would assume the cost of $1,000 on the Edison transfer.
Rev. Davies submitted a petition signed by four home-owners of Como Lake
Subdivision asking that the alley running North and South parallel to Cavell
between Howell and Five Mile Road be vacated with an easement being retained
for use by public utilities.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Conway, seconded by Mr. Newton, it was
RESOLVED, that a letter be written to the Detroit Edison Company
and the Michigan Bell Telephone Company recommending that they
make an exception to their policy of a $1,000 charge for rerouting
cable and easement.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Conway, Ventura, Greene, Geer and Hay
NAYS: None
NOT VOTING: Salinas
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Conway, seconded by Mr. Newton and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that Petition No. V-3 by Rev. Davies, Minister St. Paul's
Presbyterian Churcn of Livonia asking that the first 20 foot alley
situated South of Five Mile Road between Cavell and Arcola Streets
in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 24 be vacated be tabled until
March 16, 1954.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
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The secretary presented material from Scott Bagby, Planning Consultant, to
the Commission.
The secretary presented a letter from the Conference Arrangement Committee,
Michigan Society of Planning Officials inviting the members to their annual
meeting April 2 and April 3 in the University of Michigan Union, Ann Arbor,
Michigan.
The Secretary read a letter dated March 4, 1954 addressed to the City
Attorney from CAlvin Roberts, Chief, Livonia Fire Department.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Geer, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that Chief Roberts be invited to attend the next
Regular Meeting of the City Planning Commission, March 16, 1954
at which time it will be decided what further material pertaining
to the proposed plats, petitions, etc. he should receive.
The chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Newton, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the minutes of the meetings February 16, 1954
and February 23, 1954 be accepted providing the word tenon is
struck out in the sentence: "The State Highway Department has
requested that no angle parking on Plymouth be prohibited." on
Page 504 (Official Minute book — page 341)
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
There was a lenghty discussion of Petition No. Z-45 which is to be presented
at the Public Hearing, March 16, 1954.
Rev. Grunow, Faith Lutheran Church has asked if it is necessary to file a
petition to use the present church building for a Lutheran School. In the
near future the new church is to be built at which time the present church
will be used only as a school. Rev. Grunow, Messrs. Roth, Lothman and
Flemming were present.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Newton, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission having been requested by
Faith Lutheran Church of Livonia, Michigan to clarify a previous
approval of the use of land by such church for religious and
educational purposes and it appearing to the commission that when
the application for building permit was first filedit was stated
therein that the premises would be used for both religious and
educational purposes the Planning Commission does hereby determine
that its previous approval includes the use of such premises both
as a church and a school.
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The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Salinas, seconded by Mr. Newton and unanimously
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that this meeting be adjourned.
At approximately 10:25 p.m. the Chair declared the meeting adjourned.
Rufino alines, Secretary
ATTESTED:
Dallas F. Hay, Chaii man