HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1953-10-20 173
MINUTES OF THE THIRTY-EIGHTH REGULAR MEETING
AND PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
The thirty-eighth regular meeting and a public hearing was held by the
Planning Commission on Tuesday, October 20, 1953 at the City Hall,
Livonia, Michigan.
The regular meeting was called to order by Chairman, Dallas Hay, at
approximately 8:05 PM.
Members present: William Newton Robert Greene H. Paul Harsha
Dallas Hay Irving Geer Rufino Salinas
*Clarence Jahn
Members absent: Edwin Conway
Mr. Malcolm Waring, Planning Consultant, was present.
Upon a motion duly made by Wm Newton and seconded by Mr. Greene, it was
RESOLVED, that the regular meeting be adjourned until
after the public hearing.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Greene, Geer, Harsha, Hay and Salinas
NAYS: None
The Chair called the public hearing to order. Approximately 125 persons
were in attenance.
Chairman, Dallas Hay, requested the secretary to read the first item on
the agenda. The secretary announced that the first item on the agenda
was a proposed plat ol J. Ziegler Woods Subdivision in Section 35, and
read a letter of transmittal of 9/24/53 from Rose-Hill Builders. The
Subdivision is located between Middlebelt and Merriman Roads and be-
tween Plymouth and Joy Roads. Waring and Johnson's recommendation was
also read by Mr. Salinas, stating that a subdivision south of this
parcel has six additional streets running north and south and stop at
Cathedral S,reet.
Mr. Ettenheimer of Rose-Hill Builders was present and advised the people
of the intent of the Company and also advised that he had met with the
Grandon Woods Civic Association prior to the meeting tonight.
Mr. Wm Brashear, City Attorney, arrived at 8:15 PM.
Mr. Ettenheimer said that they felt that it would be unfair to the people
who have built beautiful homes in Grandon Woods Subdivision, to cut
numerous streets into Grandon.
Mr. Abe Green of Rose-Hill Builders was also present and said that Rose-
hill was willing to dedicate an additional 10 feet for the installation
of culdesacs so that the streets would not have to be cut thru.
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The Chair called on Mr. Fuston, 31290 Grandon, representing approximately
20 members of the Crandon Woods Uivic Association who were present. Mr.
Fuston said that the Association felt that by cutting the minor streets
into Grandon would make Grandon a thru street, and they were not in favor
of this, He said that the pattern has been established and they are in
favor of cutting thru but one street and that is Louise.
Mr. W. A. Albea, 9108 Melvin, asked Mr. Green about theh30 foot ,easement
that exists along the property line. Mr. Green advised that the easement
was granted to the property owners with the closing of Cathedral Street.
Mr. Brashear advised that Cathedral Street was vacated 3/10/52. A dis-
cussion followed concerning the closing of Cathedral and the problem
presented by the proposed subdivision.
Mr. Coronet, Melvin Street, said that he did not want the garages of the
new proposed subdivision facing his side yard, and did not want garbage
cans on his side yard. He stated that he wanted the easement that was
given to him.
Mr. Herald Hammil, City Engineer, was present and stated that the City
has water lines laid where the proposed streets are to go through.
The Chair announced to the assembly that the Planning Commission members
on the Board at this time were not members at the time Cathedral Street
was closed. He also said that he would appoint a committee consisting
of three new members of the Commission to investigate all that has
preceded on the Cathedral Street closing.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Harsha and seconded by Mr. Newton, it was
RESOLVED, that J. Ziegler Woods Subdivision be tabled until
the next regular meeting, November 17, 1953.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Greene, Geer, Harsha, Hay and Salinas
NAYS: None
The Chair appointed Messrs. Newton, Greene, and Geer to investigate the
previous proceedings on the closing of Cathedral Street.
The secretary read a letter from James H. Salle, 18400 Northlawn, Detroit
dated 9/1/53 submitting a proposed David Kay Subdivision located north-
west corner of Inkster and Schoolcraft (Owner: David Kay). Waring and
Johnson's recommendation was read, suggesting that a park site be dedi-
cated in this area as a good portion of the subdivision is for multiple
dwellings.
Mr. Waring said that something had come up regarding sewers in that sec-
tion since the plat was presented. After a discussion was held, a motion
was duly made by Mr. Newton and seconded by Mr. Harsha, it was
RESOLVED, that the proposed David Kay Subdivision be
referred to the Plat Committee for study.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
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AYES: Newton, Greene, Geer, Harsha, Hay and Salinas
NAYS: None
The Chair advised that no disposition would be made of the Subdivision
until the next regular meeting in November.
The secretary announced that the proposed Curtis Homes Subdivision was
next on the Agenda and read a letter from the City Attorney dated 10/8/53
regarding restrictions for the area.
Mr. Daugherty was present and submitted signed copies of the restrictions.
*Mr. Jahn arrived at 9:15 PM.
The secretary read Waring and Johnson's recommendations proposing that
tentative approval be given insofar as it relates to planning.
The Chairman called on a representative of Marvin's Robin Hood Subdivision
to check the signatures on the restrictions. Mr. Brashear advised that
the document could not be approved without all of the signatures of the
property owners including vacant lots. Mr. Daugherty had failed to sign
and had neglected to bring all the copies. Mr. Brashear suggested that
all of the persons who signed the restrictions should have a copy of same
for their own protection.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Geer and seconded by Mr. Jahn, it was
RESOLVED, to table the proposed Curtis Homes Subdivision until
the regular meeting in November.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha, Hay and Salinas
NAYS: None
Next on the agenda was the Meri-Joy Subdivision located on the north
side of Joy between Merriman and Henry Ruff, Section 35. Mr. David
Goldman was present representing the Meri-Joy Corporation. Mr. Goldman
said that Lots 91 and 92 are being turned around so that they will face
on Merriman.
Mr. A. Hamelink, 30624 Grandon, said that they had held a meeting with
Mr. Goldman and Mr. Steel and they had agreed to the changes suggested,
but about the double frontage lots, Mr. Goldman would not go along with
the suggested change as Meri-Joy Corporation would have to eliminate
about 19 houses.
Mr. Goldman stated that their engineer, Mr. Fall, had been in contact
with Mr. Waring, and Mr. Goldman said that they would stand to lose about
$10,000. if they went along with the Civic Association.
1[1. Mr. Fall, of Fall and Basney, 1438 Majestic Building, was present and
when asked about the layout of the subdivision, stated that the sewer
was on Joy Road and the streets would run into the street where the
sewer is located. He felt that the only way to eliminate the double
frontage lots is to make the other lots larger as suggested.
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Salinas and seconded by Mr. Jahn, it was
RESOLVED, to table the proposed Meri-Joy Subdivision until
November 17th and that Mr. Goldman meet with Mr. Waring,
of Waring and Johnson, Planning Consultants, prior to the
next meeting.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha, Hay and Salinas
NAYS: None
Mr. R. L. Miller, 31231 Grandon, asked for the floor and in rebuttal to
Mr. Goldman's statement that they would be losing approximately $10,000
if they eliminated a row of houses, presented some facts and figures and
approximated that Meri-Joy Corporation would not be out more than $40
per lot.
Mr. Salinas announced that the next subdivision on the agenda was the
proposed Valley View Subdivision located on the West side of Farmington
Road, approximately 1200 feet North of the South boundary line of the
City of Livonia, owned by Luvisch Building Corporation.
Mr. Luvisch was present regarding the River Bend Subdivision which he
claimed was the same subdivision being mistakenly called Valley View.
Waring and Johnson's recommendations were read by the Secretary, stating
that several of the lots are undersize, and this matter had been called
to the attention of Mr. Orr, Engineer. A letter dated October 15, 1953
from Mr. Orr, was read by Mr. Waring, stating that larger lots would be
platted to conform with the lot sizes presented in the Zoning Ordinance.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Salinas and Seconded by Mr. Harsha, it was
RESOLVED, that tentative approval be given the Valley-
View (River Bend) Subdivision, Section 33, subject to
Mr. Orr's letter of 10/15/53.
There was a discussing regarding the correct name of the Subdivision.
Up to this time thesubdivision had been referred to as Valley View
and Mr. Luvisch said that this was a typographical error, as the proper
name is River Bend Subdivision.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Greene, Harsha and Salinas
NAYS: Newton, Jahn, Geer and Hay
The Chair announced that the motion was lost.
Chairman, Dallas Hay, called a recess at 9:50 PM.
I[: The meeting was again called to order by the Chair at 10:10 PM.
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The secretary read petition #Z-24, George Roth, requesting a change of
zoning on a parcel located on the SE corner of Middlebelt and West Chicago
from RUFB to C-2. Mr. Lewis was present presenting the petitioner.
Mr. Lewis stated that it was very desirable to have a shopping center on
this corner. He presented a petition that had been circulated to ascertain
how the surrounding property owners felt about having a shopping center.
The petition showed that a percentage of approximately 90% of the people
were in favor of the shopping district and same was submitted for the
records.
Mr. Bert Johnson, 38721 W. Chicago stated that no one had come to his
home with a petition and he was not in favor or the shopping center.
Chairman, Dallas Hay, asked for a report from the committee that checked
into the location of the proposed group of stores. Mr. Jahn said that
his personal thinking on the matter was that the area has industry
there and other shopping centers are being planned and he was of the
opinion that there should not be any further extension of C-2 zoning.
Mr. Greene said that the C-2 zoning had to stop somewhere, and he was
in agreement with Mr. Jahn's thinking.
Mr. Geer recalled the store that had been recently vacated on the corner
of Joy and Middlebelt because of lack of business, and further noted
that there is a lot of commercial property on Joy Road.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Jahn and seconded by Mr. Salinas, it was
RESOLVED, that Petition #Z-24, George Roth, requesting
a change of zoning on a parcel of land located on the SE
corner of Middlebelt and West Chicago from RUFB to C-2
be denied.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha, Hay and Salinas
NAYS: None
The petition of the Consumers Power Company to erect a public utility
building on the East side of Farmington, approximately 1200 feet North
of Plymouth Road, was next on the agenda. Mr. Mayhew was present
representing the Power Company.
The secretary read Waring and Johnson's recommendations. There was a
discussion regarding the possibility of the sale of appliances from
the building and the future reclassification of zoning.
No one was present objecting to the petition.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Jahn and seconded by Mr. Harsha, it was
RESOLVED, that the petition of the Consumers Power Company
to erect a public utility building on the East side of
Farmington Road, approximately 1200 feet North of Plymouth
Road, be granted insofar as a public utility building is
concerned.
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A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Geer, Harsha, Hay and Salinas
NAYS: None
Mr. Hay left at approximately 10:35 PM.
Mr. Harsha, Vice Chairman, acted as Chairman henceforth.
The next petition was that of F. B. Morgan, to construct Standard Oil
Service Station on the Northeast corner of Farmington and Five Mile Road.
The secretary read Waring and Johnson's recommendations, stating that the
location was not .favorable in its proximity to the Civic Center.
The secretary read a letter that was received from Miss Helen Byers,
stating also that the location was not favorable to the Civic Center,
and stating that it would constitute a safety hazard.
Mr. Morgan was present representing Standard Oil Company and advised
that the station would be an improvement for Livonia, and would cost
in the neighborhood of $45,000.
The Chair asked if anyone else was present who wished to speak regarding
the petition. Miss Byers was present and stated that her letter covered
her views on the service station.
Mr. McKane, President of the Board of Education, was present and said
that he was not in favor of the service station at this particular lo—
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as approximately 2500 young people will be crossing the corner
in a couple years to attend the high school.
Mr. Newton said that he had received some verbal objections to the
erection of the service station at this location, but nom of those
objectors was present. Mr. Newton's personal view was that it should
not be allowed.
Mr. Morgan gave some examples of where they had been permitted to erect
stations close to civic operations, e.g., in Lansing near the Capitol
Building.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Salinas and seconded by Mr. Greene, it was
RESOLVED, that the request of Mr. F. B. Morgan to erect
a service station on the corner of Farmington and Five
Mile, be denied.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Greene and Salinas
NAYS: Newton
NOT VOTING: Geer, Jahn and Harsha
Following a discussion, a motion was duly made by Mr. Newton and seconded
by Mr. Greene, it was
RESOLVED, to table the request of F. B. Morgan to construct
a service station at the NE corner of Farmington and Five Mile.
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A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha
NAYS: Salinas
Mr. Jahn asked the secretary to have the minutes available at the next
meeting wherein a service station was granted at the corner of Farmington
and Schoolcraft.
The secretary read the application for removal of topsoil by Dominic
J. Pitrone to romove sand on 35 acres from NE 1/4 of NW 1/4 of Section
28. The secretary also read the recommendations of the DPW and the
Police Department.
Mr. Barlow was present and said that some filling-in had not been taken
care of by Mr. Pitrone in back of Mr. Barlow's property. Mr. Boyer had
requested Mr. Pitrone to leave some sand to finish filling in with, but
has not spread the sand.
The secretary read a letter of protest against the hauling of dirt from
the residents of Fairlane Street.
Mr. Pitrone was present, and stated that he left more than enough sand
for fill-in purposes as requested by Mr. Boyer. Mr. Pitrone had a waiver
signed by the necessary property owners for the proposed application on
this agenda.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Jahn and seconded by Mr. Newton, it was
RESOLVED, that the application for permit to remove sand by
Dominic J. Pitrone on 35 acres from. NE 1/4 of NW 1/4 of Sec.
28, be granted, subject to the conditions of the Police
Department and the Department of Public Works.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha, and Salinas
NAYS: None
There was a discussion regarding the performance bond, and upon a motion
duly made by Mr. Jahn and seconded by Mr. Geer, it was
RESOLVED, that a performance bond in the amount of $10,000
be set for Dominic J. Pitrone on above parcel from which
sand will be removed.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha and Salinas
NAYS: None
Next on the agenda was an application of George Cummings to get per-
mission to remove sand at 14875 Fairlane.
A letter was read by the secretary from "r. Barlow criticizing the
manner in which Mr. Pitrone had left the land from which he removed sand.
Mr. Barlow's property abuts Mr. Boyer's land.
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Mr. M. Campbell was present, representing Mr. Cummings.
No one was present objecting to the removal of the sand, and upon a motion
duly made by Mr. Jahn and seconded by Mr. Salinas, it was
RESOLVED, that the application for permit to remove sand
at 14875 Fairlane, by Mr. George Cummings, be granted.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha and Salinas
NAYS: None
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Jahn and seconded by Mr. Salinas, it was
RESOLVED, that t:.e performance bond for removal of sand
at 14875 Fairlane, be set at $500.
A roll call rote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha and Salinas
NAYS: None
The next petition on the agenda was a request to change the name o
Fordson Hignway to Coventry Drive. The secretary read Waring and
Johnson's recommendations.
No one was present objecting to the change.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Jahn and seconded by Mr. Newton, it was
RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission recommend to the
City Council that the petition requesting that the name
of Fordson Highway between Ashurst Avenue and Five Mile
be changed to Coventry Drive, be granted.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha and Salinas
NAYS: None
At approximately 11:30 PM. the Chair declared the public hearing adjourned.
The Chairman, Paul Harsha, called the regular meeting to order and an
infoice was presented for inspection by the members.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Newton and seconded by Mr. Salinas, it was
RESOLVED, that the invoice in the amount of $24.00 covering
repair service on the typewriter used by the Planning Com-
mission, be approved for payment.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha and Salinas
NAYS: None
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Next on the agenda was the approval of the minutes of the forty-second
special meeting. Mr. Harsha had a correction on the first resolution
of the meeting and it should be as follows:
"RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission proceed with the
order of business".
instead of
"RESOLVED, that the people be dismissed and the meeting
resumed".
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Newton and seconded by Mr. Jahn, it was
RESOLVED, that the minutes of the Forty-second Special
Meeting of the Planning Commission be accepted as corrected.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha and Salinas
NAYS: None
The secretary read a letter from Mr. Jack Hickox, Chairman of the Traffic
Commission referring a letter to the Commission from Irene M. Johnson
inre the widening and improving of a sidewalk, etc. Upon a motion duly
made by Mr. Newton and seconded by Mr. Salinas, it was
RESOLVED, that the letter from Mrs. Irene M. Johnson, be
referred to the Department of Public Works.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha, and Salinas
NAYS: None
The secretary read a letter from the Mayor to the Mayor's Advisory
Committee, giving disposition of recommendations submitted by that
Committee.
Mr. Paas of the Dearborn Chinchilla Ranch was present regarding the denial
of his petition requesting permission to raise chanchillas. There was
a lengthy discussion regarding the situation and it was established to
Mr. Paas' satisfaction that the lot size is insufficient to permit the
raising of chinchillas.
Mr. Edwin Orr was present regarding the proposed subdivision in the SW
1/4 of Section 14, bounded by Five Mile and Rayburn and Merriman and
Henry Ruff.
The secretary read Mr. Orr's letter and the recommendations of Waring &
Johnson. A discussion followed and upon a motion duly made by Mr. Jahn
and seconded by Mr. Salinas, it was
RESOLVED, that the proposed subdivision presented by Mr. Urr
be referred to the Plat committee and Waring and Johnson, with
the suggestion that Mr. Orr contact Mr. Waring on the basis
that the present zoning be observed.
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A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha and Salinas
NAYS: None
Mr. Jacobson was present representing the Edward Rose Company's proposed
Edward Rose Subdivision. The secretary read Waring and Johnson's recom-
mendations, wherein it stated that the lot sizes were too small in some
instances.
Mr. Meinzinger and Mr. Folsom, of the Department of Parks and Recreation,
were present regarding the dedication or approval of a half street in
the Edward Rose Subdivision. A lengthy discussion followed.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Jahn and seconded by Mr. Salinas, it was
RESOLVED, that the proposed Edward Rose Chicago Subdivision
be tabled until the plat conforms to the Zoning Ordinance.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha and Salinas
NAYS: None
Mr. Bleakley of the Shelden Land Co. was present regarding proposed plats
of Rosedale Gardens Subdivision #12 and #13. A lengthy discussion was
held.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Greene and seconded by Mr. Newton, it was
RESOLVED, that tentative approval be given the proposed plats
of Rosedale Gardens Subdivisions #12 and #13, as presented by
Shelden Land Company.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Newton, Jahn, Greene, Geer, Harsha and Salinas
NAYS: None
The secretary presented proposed plats of the Bel-Aire Subdivision #2.
Mr. Meinzinger said that Mr. Greene had not answered their letter written
regarding a site for a park and school. The chair referred the plats to
the Plat Committee.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Newton and seconded by Mr. Jahn and carried
unanimously, it was
RESOLVED, that this meeting be adjourned.
At approximately 12:55 AM the Chair declared the meeting adjourned.
Rufin Salinas, Secretary
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