HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1953-05-21 Secy Init. gpage 13.
MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE THIRTY-
THIRD REGULAR MEETING OF TEE PLANNING COMMISSION
A public hearing was held by the City Planning Commission on Thursday,
May 21, 1953 at the Court House Building, Livonia, Michigan.
Chairman, Dallas Hay, called the meeting to order at approximately 8:10 PM.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Helen Byers Edwin Conway H. Paul Harsha
Dallas Hay Robert Maclntyre Elmore McNiece
Walter Russell Clarence Jahn
Members absent: George Bentley
Also present was Mr. M. Waring, of Waring and Johnson, Planning Consultants,
together with approximately 25 persons.
The secretary read a petition asking permission to construct and use Sun
Oil Company station on the SE corner of Schoolcraft and Farmington, Lots
1 & 2 of Schoolcraft Acres Subdivision. Mr. D. C. Gregory was present
representing Sun Oil Company, and had nothing to add to what had already
been submitted. The secretary read a letter from Sun Oil dated April 21, 1953.
Mr. Brashear, City Attorney, arrived at 8:15 PM.
Mr. M. F. Hughes, 13741 Farmington Road, was present and advised that
he had engaged an attorney to appear this evening because he objected to
the proposed service station. Mr. Hughes said that he was of the opinion
that the station would be in violation of the new Zoning Ordinance, Sec-
tion 11.02 paragraph L, and read same. He then stated his personal ob-
jections, and produced a list of 15 persons objecting to the station and
presented same to the Planning Commission.
The following persons were present who objected to the Sun Oil petition:
Mrs. M. F. Hughes, 13741 Farmington
Mrs. Sam Triplett, 13580 Surrey
Mrs. Loris Lampton, 33145 Schoolcraft
Mr. Warner, 33234 Schoolcraft
Mr. Gregory presented 11 letters dated May 12, 1953 and signed by sur-
rounding property owners who favored the petition.
A lengthy discussion followed, and Mr. Waring said that the station
was in compliance with the Zoning Ordinance in all respects.
Upon a motion duly made by Helen Byers and seconded by Mr. Maclntyre,
it was
RESOLVED, that the Sun Oil petition be tabled until after
the next petition, to await the arrival of Mr. Hughes'
attorney.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: MeNiece, Jahn, Conway, Russell, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Next on the agenda, Mr. Hay announced, was an application to remove top-
soil on the north side of West Chicago Road with a frontage of 660 feet,
submitted by L. Glasier and H. Grossman. Mr. Glasier was present, and
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advised that they are planning to have a subdivision in there that the
city will be proud of.
There was a discussion regarding the advisability of removing topsoil
in that particular area. Members of the Commission were of the opinion
that the property was not high enough to have topsoil removed.
Mr. E. Faaalkerson, 21311 Schoolcraft, was present, also Mr. Faulkerson's
attorney, Mr. D. F. Fitzgerald, Lafayette Bldg. Mr. Fauikerson is ex-
perienced in the removal of topsoil.
Mr. Harry D. Kreger, 10030 Seltzer, was present and was opposed to the
removal of the topsoil. Mr. Kreger said that the neighbors had been
desirous of expressing their opinion regarding the removal of topsoil
and they consider it an unhealthy situation because of the dust and
the fact that the mosquito season is coming very soon.
Mr. Clare Morrison, 28547 Clements Circle: "We have been better than a
year trying to fill in around our area. When we have rain, we have
water standing in the field directly behind us. I had to build a fence
to keep the children array from the water."
Mr. H. Killam, 11081 Clements Circle: "I object to the removal of the
topsoil."
Mr. Glasier said that the engineer had advised him the land is above grade.
Mrs. H. Killam, 11081 Clements Circle: "We have been advised that we will
need 70 loads of dirt at $12.00 per load to fill in the back of our place.
When we first went out there, it was a beautiful level field and then
the topsoil had to be removed and consequently we have to go to this
added expense of filling in our yard." Mrs. Killam said that they had
supported the Zoning Ordinance so that this condition would cease to exist.
Mrs. Carpenter, 11061 Clements Circle, said that the grade level has been
established in the front of their lot but not in the rear and the property
adjacent is lower than theirs. Mrs. Carpenter also advised that all of
the people within 500 feet had not been notified inre the removal of topsoil.
The City Attorney advised that the tax roll was used for names of persons
to be notified and if they had moved in recently, their names were not
as yet added to the city tax roll.
The Chairman checked with Mr. Haltquist, of the DPI!, by telephone to
question the removal of the soil and the grade level. Mr. Hultquist ad-
vised that if the Commission wished to refer the application back to his
Department, he would be glad to recheck same.
Mr. Waring said that a similar problem existed in a nearby city and the
problem was solved by allowing the subdivider to stockpile the topsoil
and when the subdivision was completed the topsoil that was left after
the leveling-off process could be moved upon application.
Other persons present who opposed the topsoil removal were:
Jack Coles, 28518 Clements Circle; Ben Sunderhaus, 11071 Clements Circle;
Charles B. Micallef, 11335 Clements Circle.
Upon a motion duly made by Miss Byers and seconded by Mr. Robert MacIntyre,
it was
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RESOLVED, that the application of Glasier and Grossman
to remove topsoil on the north side of W. Chicago Road
be denied.
1E: A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Jahn, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: McNiece, Conway, Russell and Harsha
A discussion followed and upon a motion duly made by Mr. Conway and sec-
onded by Mr. Russell, it was
RESOLVED, that the application of Glasier and Grossman to
remove topsoil, be tabled and same be referred back to
Mr. Hultquist of the Department of Public Works.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: McNieee, Jahn, Conway, Russell, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
The Chair asked Mr. Hughes if his attorney had arrived inre the Sun Oil
petition.
Mr. Hughes said that he was unable to reach the attorney, but said further
that he had stated his objections and if the whole thing could be post-
poned until a later date he was in favor of that, but if not, he wanted the
Commission to reject it so that he can continue to live in his home and
enjoy it. He also stated that he understands the C-2 zoning regulations.
Upon a motion duly made by Walter Russell and seconded by Edwin Conway,
it was
RESOLVED, that permission to construct a new Sun Oil Company
gasoline and service station on Lot #1 of Schoolcraft Acres
Subdivision, otherwise described as the southeast corner of
Schoolcraft and Farmington Roads, with a frontage of 100 ft.
on Schoolcraft and a depth of 200 ft. on Farmington Road, is
hereby granted.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: McNiece, Conway, Russell, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
NOT VOTING: Jahn
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Maclntyre and seconded by Mr. Jahn, it was
RESOLVED, that the public hearing be adjourned.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Ru..;sell, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Thereupon, at approximately 9:40 PM, the Chair declared the meeting ad-
journed and called a 10-minute recess.
Mr.. Russell left the meeting at 9:40 PM.
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MINUTES OF THE THIRTY-THIRD RE(RJLLR MEETING
Chairman, Dallas Hay, called the thirty-third regular meeting to order
at approximately 9:50 PM, with the following members in attendance.
Helen Byers Edwin Conway H. Paul Harsha Dallas Hay
Clarence Jahn Elmore McNiece Robert Maclntyre
Members absent: Bentley and Russell
Messrs. Brashear and Waring were present.
The Chair asked for disposition of the minutes of the thirty-seventh
special meeting of May 7, 1953.
Upon a motion duly made by Clarence Jahn and seconded by Edwin Conway,
it was
RESOLVED, to accept the minutes of the thirty-seventh special
meeting with the following corrections:
Page 5 of official minute book (page 340) members' copies, the
fourth resolution be corrected by changing the second line to
read, "starting at a point of 183 feet", instead of 135 feet.
Page 7, of official minute book (page 341) members' copies, the
second resolution be corrected by striking out the words,
"and the approval of the Rosedale Gardens Civic Association".
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
The Chair announced that several members of the Commission had attended
the meeting with the Board of Education and the Livonia Gardens Civic
Association and asked the secretary to read the minutes of the meeting,
together with a letter from Mr. Hyde, Planning Consultant. Also a
letter was read from the Livonia Township School District inre the May
26th meeting.
There was a lengthy discussion regarding the proposed school site in
Section 22, Mr. Meinzinger arrived at approximately 10:15 PM. During
the discussion, it was brought out that many difficulties would be en-
countered if the Section were to be redesigned, i.e., streets have al-
ready been dedicated and the Master Thoroughfare Plan would require
amendment brought about by a public hearing which would mean a delay.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Harsha and seconded by Mr. Conway, it was
RESOLVED, that careful consideration having been given by this
Commission to the rerouting of Lyndon and Hubbard Roads in
Section 22, to prevent a flow of thru traffic on such roads
and the Michigan State Highway Commission through Mr. Marvin,
Mr. Potts of the Automobile Club of Michigan and Chief of Police,
having expressed an opinion that the Master Plan heretofore
adopted should remain unchanged as to Section 22, the Commission
does hereby determine that it is unwise to amend the Master Plan
as to such Section.
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A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Upon a motion duly made by Clarence Jahn and seconded by Edwin Conway,
it was
RESOLVED, that a public hearing be held on Weiger-Weed
petition on Tuesday, June 9, 1953, at the City Hall.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Upon a motion duly made by Clarence Jahn and seconded by Edwin Conway,
it was
RESOLVED, that the public hearing scheduled for June
8, 1953 be cancelled.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Maclntyre and seconded by Mr. Harsha,
it was
RESOLVED, that a public hearing be held on June 25, 1953
on all petitions received to date.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
The secretary read a letter from the Livonia Business and Professional
Men's Association dated May 8, 1953 inre off-street parking.
Upon a motion duly made by Robert Maclntyre and seconded by Helen Byers,
it was
RESOLVED, to table the letter from the Livonia Business and
Professional Men's Association dated 5/8/53 inre off-street
parking.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
The secretary then read the following:
A copy of a letter to the City Attorney from F. B. Hoffman dated 5/16/53
inre petition Z-8.
Letter from the City Attorney dated 5/14/53 regarding the public hearing
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set for June 8, 1953.
A letter from the City Clerk dated 5/11/53 inre the Commission's June
1[40 meetings being held at the new City Hall.
A copy of a letter to General Motors Corporation from the City Attorney,
dated 5/19/53 inre change of zoning.
A copy of a letter to E. H. Dill from the City Attorney, dated 5/19/53
inre request for change of zoning on NE corner of Farmington and Plymouth.
Miss Byers reported that a meeting of the Northwest Wayne Development
Council will be held Tuesday, June 16, 1953 at the Plymouth Township
Hall on Ann Arbor Road - subject: zoning and its relation to industry.
All members of the Commission are invited to attend as well as other
City officials.
Upon a motion duly made by Clarence Jahn and seconded by Mr. MacIntyre
and carried unanimously, it was
RESOLVED, that this meeting be adjourned.
Thereupon, at approximately 11:10 PM, the Chair declared the meeting
adjourned.
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Helen E. Byers, S,'retary
ATTESTED:
Dallas F. Hay, Cha�� h a