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Home My WebLink AboutPLANNING MINUTES 1952-11-13 MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND 31ST 367 SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION A public hearing was held on Thursday, November 13, 1952 by the City Planning Commission at the Court House Building, Livonia, Michigan. Chairman Dallas Hay called the meeting to order at approximately 8:10 PM. Approximately 20 persons were present. Planning Commission members present were: George Bentley, Edwin Conway, Dallas Hay and Robert MacIntyre Members absent: Helen Byers, H. Paul Harsha, Clarence Jahn and Walter Russell Mr. Malcolm Waring, Planning Consultant, was present. The Chair asked Mr. Edwin Conway to act as secretary and read the peti- tions. Mr. Conway read the first petition #60, closing of the Melvin- Oporto alley. Mr. Harsha arrived at approximately 8:12 PM. The Chair asked if anyone was present to speak either for or against the petition. Mr. Ernest Cornetet, 9107 Melvin - "We want it closed as we have no use for it. It is dirt, and we all have our own side driveways and the same goes for the rest of these men". Mr. Winston Kyte, 9144 Oporto, Mr. William Kyte, 20411 Woodingham Dr., Mr. Fred McKenna - all favored the closing of the alley. Mr. Cornetet: "Most of the alleys in that neighborhood have been closed." Mr. Wm Brashear, City Attorney, arrived at approximately 8:15 PM. Upon a motion duly made by George Bentley and seconded by Robert MacIntyre, it was RESOLVED, that petition #60 be tabled until the special meeting to be held after the public hearing. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway, Harsha, McIntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None Mr. Conway then read petition #61, closing of alley in Seven Mile Super Highway Subdivision, along with Waring & Johnson's recommendation. Mr. Virgil Story, 18984 Filmore - "There is no reason for the alley to be open; there is no road for the residents. The other parts are going to be business (Lots 212 to 216) and there is no reason to close that portion." Mr. Cyril Longstaff, 18972 Filmore - "I own lots 208 and half of 209 and we want to get it fenced in. " Mr. George Lewis, 18940 Filmore - "We want to have the alley clean and thereby beautify the city." The Chair asked Mr. Story if he had contacted the owners of Lots 212 to 216 inasmuch as those lots are zoned for business. 369 Mr. Story said they had not been contacted and therefore their names did not appear on the petition. There was a brief discussion as to the accessibility of the alley if a portion were closed. Upon a motion duly made by George Bentley and seconded by Edwin Conway, it was RESOLVED, to table petition #61, until the special meeting to be held after the public hearing. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None The Chair asked Mr. Brashear to read petition #63, requesting that alley between Cavour and Paderewski, in Five Elms Subdivision, be closed. Mr. Brashear also read petition #64, Walter C. Evans, requesting that the alley between Middlebelt Road and Cavour Street and between Elsie and Jameson be closed. Joseph P. Schroeder, 15135 Padereawski - "We are here just to make the neighborhood look better." Mr. Arthur Morath, 15151 Paderewski, was present and favored closing the alley. Walter C. Evans, 14983 Cavour, was present and favored closing the alley. Upon a motion duly made by Edwin Conway and seconded by George Bentley, it was RESOLVED, to table petitions #63 and #64 until the special meeting to be held after the public hearing. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None Mr. Conway read petition #65, requesting the closing of that part of the alley extending north and south, between Five Mile, Howell, Inkster and Arcola. Michael Zwelinski, 15005 Inkster, was present and said that he was in favor of having the alley closed. There was a discussion regarding the petitions heard thusfar, and upon a motion duly made by George Bentley and seconded by Edwin Conway, it was RESOLVED, that the alley in petition #60, Melvin-Oporto alley, be vacated provided, however, that an easement be reserved in the area formerly occupied by the alley for public utilities. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None Upon a motion duly made by Edwin Conway and seconded by George Bentley, it was 871 RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission recommends that the alley in Petition #61, located at the rear of lots 203 to 216 inclusive on the east side of Filmore just north of Clarita in the NE 1/4 Section 9, be vacated provided, how- ever, that an easement be reserved for public utilities. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway, Harsha, MacIntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None Upon a motion duly made by Robert MacIntyre and seconded by Paul Harsha, it was RESOLVED, that the alley in petition #63, between Cavour and Paderewski in Five Elms Subdivision, be vacated provided, however, that an easement be reserved for public utilities. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None Upon a motion duly made by George Bentley and seconded by Robert Maclntyre it was RESOLVED, that the alley in Petition #64, Walter C. Evans, between Middlebelt Road and Cavour and between Elsie and Jameson, be vacated provided, however, that an easement be reserved for public utilities. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway,. Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None Upon a motion duly made by H. Paul Harsha, and seconded by Edwin Conway, it was RESOLVED, that petition #65, closing of that part of the alley extending north and south, between Five Mile, Howell, Inkster and Arcola, be granted provided, however, that an easement be reserved for public utilities. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None There was a brief discussion on petition #68, Dedication of Half-Streets. Upon a motion duly made by George Bentley and seconded by Edwin Conway, it was RESOLVED, that subdivision (f) of Section 4.02 of the Subdivision Regulations be amended to read as follows: "(f) Dedication of Half-Streets. The dedication of half-streets will be permitted where a subdivision adjoins undeveloped property, where such dedication will not cause serious detriment to the surrounding neighborhood and the city, and where either such half-street has been constructed And improved as required by the provisions of the Plat 371 Ordinance, Ordinance #44 of the City of Livonia, or a cash deposit has been given to the city in an amount sufficient to pay the cost of such construction and improvement as determined by the Department of Public Works. Wherever there already exists a dedicated and recorded half-street or alley on an adjoining plat, the other half must be dedicated on the proposed plat to make the street or alley complete." A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None Upon a motion duly made by Robert MacIntyre and seconded by George Bentley, it was RESOLVED, that the public hearing be adjourned. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None At 8:50 PM, the Chair declared the public hearing adjourned. MINUTES OF THE THIRTY-FIRST SPECIAL MEETING At approximately 8:55 PM, the Chair called the special meeting or order. Members present: Edwin Conway H. Paul Harsha Robert MacIntyre Dallas Hay George Bentley Statements were presented from Waring and Johnson covering July, Septem- ber and October services, also the survey made by Waring & Johnson for the Planning Commission. There was a discussion regarding the survey and the fact that it had not been delivered to the Planning Commission. Upon a motion duly made by George Bentley and seconded by Edwin Conway, it was RESOLVED, that the statement from Waring and Johnson be paid when the survey books are delivered to the Chairman, with the exception of the balance of $98.48 for July, 1952. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None Mr. Conway read a letter from R. J. Eoff regarding Bell Creek Farms Subdivision and the proposed Bell Creek Farms Subdivision #2, dated November 6, 1952 ince the curves in the streets. Mr. Waring gave an explanation about the curves in the streets and their importance to the subdivision. X75 Mr. J. K. Underwood, 3205 Cadillac Tower, was present, representing the owners in Bell Creek Farms Subdivision and #2 Subdivision. He gave a detailed report of what had taken place in the subdivision and explained some of the actions that Mr. Eoff had taken. He said that it was desirable from the standpoint of taxation that the plat be approved. He said that there is no question but what the plat and the land are the same. Mr. Underwood said that he has gone over the pro- posed plats and so far as he is concerned there should be no legal ob- jections or layout objections. There was a general discussion regarding the subdivisions. Mr. Hamill, City Engineer, was present and said that he has approved the plats. Upon a motion duly made by H. Paul Harsha and seconded by Edwin Conway, it was RESOLVED, that the City Planning Commission does hereby ap- prove the proposed plat of Bell Creek Subdivision #1 Part of the W 1/2 of the NW 1/4 of Section 15, Town 1 South, Range 9 East, City of Livonia, as presented to the Commission and does authorize the Chairman and. Secretary to affix their sig- natures to the proposed plat as evidence of such approval. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None It was the consensus of opinion that the plat is not an ideal layout but from the standpoint of expediency and the tax problems involved, the Commission saw fit to approve same. The members were cognizant of the fact that this subdivision would by no means set a precedent for the planning of future subdivisions. Upon a motion duly made by Robert Maclntyre and seconded by Edwin Conway, it was RESOLVED, to table the proposed plat of Bell Creek Farms Subdivision #2. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None Mr. Brashear advised the Commission that nothing could be done regarding the hearing on November 25, 1952 due to the restraining order received by the City on the Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Conway read the following letters: November 11th from the City Clerk regarding the Zoning Ordinance; November 11th from the City Clerk regarding Livonia Estates Subdivision; November 11th from the City Clerk regarding Livonia Estates Subdivision inre the size of lots in subdivision. E Upon a motion duly made by Edwin Conway and seconded by Robert MacIntyre, it was RESOLVED, that Mr. Waring contact Mr. Heyden, Engineer for Mr. Eoff, relative to additional curves in Bell Creek Farms Subdivision #2. 377 A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Bentley NAYS: None Mr. Conway read copies of the following letters: November 7th TO: Mr. Lewis Brooke, Secretary, Livonia Zoning Board of Appeals from L. E. Schmidt, Secretary, Clarenceville Optimist Club inre dumping on Dohany property in Section 1. - November 10th TO: Rosehill Builders from H. 0. Johnson inre taking an option for a school site in Section 35. November 11th TO: The City Council from Edwin M. Orr inre Greenette Subdivision and half-streets. Upon a motion duly made by Edwin Conway and seconded by Robert Maclntyre, and carried unanimously, it was RESOLVED, that this meeting be adjourned. At approximately 10:05 PM, the Chair declared the meeting adjourned. Q _4Q EdwinC,o., ay Act�ecretary ATTESTED: Gia Dallas F. Hay, Chairman