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MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED 28TH REGULAR
MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
The adjourned 28th regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held
on January 8, 1953 at the Court House Building, Livonia, Michigan.
Chairman, Dallas Hay, called the meeting to order at approximately 8:05PM
and welcomed the new member, Elmore McNiece.
Members present: George Bentley Helen Byers Edwin Conway
H. Paul Harsha Dallas Hay Clarence Jahn
Elmore McNiece
Members absent: Walter Russell
Mr. Johnson of Waring and Johnson, was present.
The Chair asked for a disposition of the minutes of the last two meetings.
Miss Byers gave two corrections to the copies of the minutes sent to the
Planning Commission members of the November 13, 1952 meeting. On page
278, in the last line of the first resolution, the word, "final" should
be changed to "proposed"; to read, "signatures to the proposed plat as
evidence of such approval". On page 279, in the signature of the secre-
tary, the word "Acting" should be inserted: to read, "Edwin Conway,
Acting Secretary". Miss Byers gave one correction for the official
minutes and the copies to the members on the minutes of the public hear-
ing of November 25, 1952. On page 282 of members copies (page 383 in
official minute book) the first line of the twelfth paragraph, the word
"he" should be changed to "the company"; to read, "Mr. Sipson advised
that the company had gone over the plans".
Mr. Brashear, City Attorney, arrived at approximately 8:10 PM.
Upon a motion duly made by Edwin Conway and seconded by Clarence Jahn,
it was
RESOLVED, that the minutes of the last two meetings be tabled
for further discussion.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
The Chair advised that the first thing on the agenda would be to hear
John H. Oestrike, 11421 Inkster Road.
The secretary read a copy of a letter to the City Attorney dated Dec.
27, 1952 from John H. Oestrike, stating his reasons for requesting a
hearing before the Planning Commission.
The secretary then read a copy of a letter dated December 31, 1952 sent
to Mr. Chas. Frischkorn from the City Attorney, asking Mr. Frischkorn
or a representative to appear before the Commission on January 8, 1953.
Mr. Hay asked Mr. Oestrike if he wished to add any more to what was
stated in the letter.
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Mr. Oestrike said that a good deal of the situation was covered in the
letter as to how the problem came about, etc. He said that the P zoning
is not unfair to many, but it is to the neighbors on the south, to him,
and to Mr. Wednick who lives nearby. Mr. Oestrike said, "I humbly
petition that an amendment be made to the Zoning Ordinance that it be
rezoned again to residential property".
Mr. Harsha asked if the area is now under subdivision restrictions.
Mr. Oestrike advised that the restrictions are now in force and are
good until 1970.
Mr. McIntyre, "Did Mr. Frischkorn sell you the home without telling you
about the possibility of a P zoning going in?"
Mr. Oestrike, "Yes, he did."
Richard Wednick, 11428 Arcola, "We asked Mr. Reickart, Frischkorn
salesman, what he intended to do with the lot and he said he didn't
know. I would be glad to buy the lot."
The Chair called upon Mr. Frischkorn, or a representative, but neither
was present.
Howard Strand, 11031 Arcola, had a copy of the deed restrictions and
read a portion to the Commission. He said that these restrictions were
agreed to and signed by Mr. Frischkorn and the Building Committee
under date of March, 1952.
Miss Byers read from the minutes of the 26th special meeting of the
Planning Commission inre the petition filed by Mr. Prischkorn re-
questing a rezoning of the property under discussion.
Mr. Brashear gave a brief explanation of the petition filed by Mr.
Frischkorn, i.e. , the reason he advertised in the newspaper as he
did, etc. Mr. Brashear further advised the group that the people
represented at that meeting were people who have lived there for
some time, but the people who are now raising objections are the ones
who later bought in there and find that they have a home along side
a parking lot, and he, Mr. Brashear, personally felt that an injustice
had been done.
Miss Byers said that the valuation of Frischkorn's business property
on Plymouth Road had increased after the resoning and he should have
notified the prospective buyers, but was not honorable in the deal.
Mr. Brashear advised that nothing could be done at the present time
as the Zoning Ordinance has been suspended until the election.
Mr. Harsha asked if any of the people were present tonight who
signed the agreement with Frischkorn.
Mr. Streni, "At the July 2nd meeting, we were here and inasmuch as
your body had not passed on the new ordinance, we agreed to postpone it.
When you finally did pass on the new ordinance, it seems that the
neighborhood missed the fact that you were going to pass on the petition
at the same meeting. The agreement grew out of a previous hearing on
multiple dwellings and people opposed it, and we got together with Mr.
Frischkorn and reached this agreement."
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After a thorough discussion, a motion was duly made by Mr. McNiece
and seconded by George Bentley, and it was
RESOLVED, that it is the intent of the Commission that in
view of the circumstances, this area should be changed
back to residential zoning and a request is made to the
City Attorney, if, as and when the Ordinance is effective
to bring on a public hearing for that purpose.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Mr. Brashear left the meeting temporarily at approximately 9:05 PM.
Miss Byers read a letter from Underwood and Underwood of December 30,
1952 regarding Bell Creek Farms Subdivision #2 and revised plat of
same. After due consideration a motion was duly made by Clarence Jahn
and seconded by Edwin Conway, and it was
RESOLVED, that tentative approval of the preliminary
plat of Bell Creek Farms Subdivision #2 of Part of
W 1/2 of NW 1/4, Sec. 15, T1S, R9E., is hereby given
insofar as layout and planning.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Mr. James Taylor was present representing the Fred Blackwood Company's
proposed plat of Laurel Glens Subdivision, Section 9. The size of the
lots were discussed in connection with another entrance to the sub-
division. Mr. Jahn read the recommendations of the plat committee and
Waring and Johnson. The Chair advised Mr. Taylor that corrected
plats should be submitted showing the suggested changes.
Upon a motion duly made by George Bentley and seconded by Clarence Jahn,
it was
RESOLVED, that tentative approval of the preliminary
plat of Laurel Glens Subdivision, Part of SW 1/4 of
Sec. 9, T1S, R9E. , is hereby given insofar as layout
and planning are concerned.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Mr. Max J. Schafer was present representing Stuart Homes Manor #2.
Mr. Jahn read the recommendation of the plat committee and Waring and
Johnson and tentative approval was suggested. It was established that
Mr. Schafer was seeking approval of the plat as far as Oporto Road
only.
After due consideration, a motion was duly made by Robert Maclntyre and
seconded by Edwin Conway, it was
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RESOLVED, that tentative approval of the preliminary plat
of the Stuart Homes Manor No. 2 Subdivision, Part of NE 1/4
of Sec. 23, T1S, R9E. , from Middlebelt Road west to the
center line of Oporto Street is hereby given as it relates
to planning.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Mr. Jahn submitted a plat of Lyndon Manor #2 Subdivision in Sec. 23.
After due consideration, a motion was duly made by Clarence Jahn,
seconded by Edwin Conway, and it was
RESOLVED, that tentative approval of the preliminary
plat of the Lyndon Manor #2 Subdivision, Part of the
NW 1/4 of Sec. 23, T1S. , R9E. , as revised is hereby
given as it relates to planning.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Mr. Donald Wilson, Building Inspector, was present and advised the
Commission that persons were coming into his office, fortified with
information of which he has no knowledge. He said that the people
knew the new street names, and that he, Mr. Wilson, has no advance
information on such things.
Miss Byers said that any information that she had on file could be
loaned to Mr. Wilson until he brought his records up-to-date, but the
information must be returned to the Planning Commission file.
The Chair called a recess at approximately 9:55 PM.
At 10:05PM, the meeting was again called to order. Miss Byers read
a letter from Park Building Company dated November 24, 1952 regarding
Smokier-Rousseau Proposed Subdivision, and requesting a zoning change
from HUB to residential on certain lots.
The Chair advised the representative of Park Building Company that
rezoning could be done only upon petition and a public hearing on same.
Miss Byers read Waring and Johnson's recommendation dated November 24,
1952 regarding the proposed subdivision and recommended approval of
the plat.
After a discussion, a motion was duly made by Edwin Conway, seconded by
Clarence Jahn, and it was
RESOLVED, that tentative approval of the preliminary plat
of the Smokier-Rousseau Subdivision, Part of NW 1/4 of
1[: Sec. 32, T1S, R9E. , is hereby given insofar as it relates
to planning.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
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AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Miss Byers read a letter of December 23, 1952 regarding prints of an
addition to the Thomas Elliott Subdivision, and the Cooper-Spoon Sub-
division #2. Mr. Serota was present, representing both Subdivisions.
Miss Byers then read a copy of a letter to Rosehill Builders from the
Supt. of Schools, H.O. Johnson, dated November 10, 1952 regarding an
option on a school site in Section 35. (SE 1/4 of SE 1/4 of NE 1/4)
After due consideration a motion was duly made by Robert Maclntyre and
seconded by George Bentley, it was
RESOLVED, that the Cooper-Spoon #2 Subdivision be tabled
until the meeting of January 15th, when a full report is
available from the Joint Study Committee.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and. Byers
NAYS: None
Miss Byers read a letter of November 25, 1952 regarding the proposed
addition of the Thomas Elliot Subdv. , from Mr. Serota.
Mr. Jahn read Waring and Johnson's recommendation. Following a dis-
cussion, a motion was duly made by Clarence Jahn and seconded by
Edwin Conway, it was
RESOLVED, to table the addition to the Thomas Elliot
Subdivision until the next meeting, January 15, 1953.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
The secretary read the following correspondence: A letter from Mrs.
E. Freud, Apt. 603, The Belcrest, 5440 Cass Ave. , Detroit 2, Michigan
addressed to the City Treasurer under date of 12/8/52 regarding public
park area, which had been referred to the Planning Commission.
Upon a motion duly made by Robert Maclntyre and seconded by George
Bentley, it was
RESOLVED, to refer the letter regarding public park area
to the Department of Parks and Recreation for disposition.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
The secretary read correspondence from the City Attorney and the
City Clerk.
Mr. Brashear returned to the meeting at approximately 11 PM.
Petitions #1 and #2 were presented by the secretary.
Upon a motion duly made by Robert Maclntyre and seconded by Edwin
Conway, it was
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RESOLVED, that petitions #1 and #2 be tabled until after
the Zoning referendum.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Miss Byers again read Waring and Johnson's letter of November 25, 1952
regarding the retainer fee increase from $50.00 to $125.00 per month,
effective January 1, 1953.
Upon a motion duly made by Robert Maclntyre and seconded by Edwin Conway,
it was
RESOLVED, that Waring and Johnson's monthly fee be increased
to $125.00 per month, effective January 1, 1953, and that
the City Council be requested to appropriate the additional
amount of $75.00 per month, or $900.00 for the year, to cover
same.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Miss Byers presented Waring & Johnson's statement for December, 1952
in the amount of $80.79. This was passed around for the Commission's
inspection.
Upon a motion duly made by George Bentley and seconded by H. Paul Harsha
it was
RESOLVED, that Waring & Johnson's statement in the amount
of $80.79 for service rendered during December, 1952 be
referred to the City Coulicil for payment.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Miss Byers read a letter dated 12/15/52 from Clarenceville Public
Schools, L. E. Schmidt, regarding the designation of a school site
in Section 2.
Upon a motion duly made by Clarence Jahn and seconded by Robert
Maclntyre, it was
RESOLVED, to refer plat of subdivision on 8 Mile and
Milburn Road in Section 2 back to Waring and Johnson
along with the letter from Clarenceville Schools.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Miss Byers read a letter of December 23, 1952 regarding new proposed
plat, Sec. 23, of Arthur W. Gillespie Company. The plat has no name
or street names.
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Upon a motion duly made by Clarence Jahn and seconded by Robert
MacIntyre, it was
RESOLVED, to refer the plat to Waring and Johnson and
the Plat Committee.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
The secretary advised that Mr. Waring had requested a plat book and
the cost would approximate 25 cents per sheet.
Upon a motion duly made by Clarence Jahn and seconded by Edwin Conway,
it was
RESOLVED, that a plat book be purchased and paid for by
the Planning Commission and that Waring and Johnson may
have the use of same as long as they are retained as
consultants by the City Planning Commission.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
Miss Byers advised that Don Wilson, Building Inspector, has requested
a loan of the density map. Upon a motion duly made by Clarence Jahn
and seconded by Robert Maclntyre, it was
RESOLVED, to authorize the Building Inspector to borrow
the density map.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre, Hay and Byers
NAYS: None
The secretary advised that the Traffic Commission has invited the
Planning Commission to meet with them on January 27.
Waring and Johnson submitted revised plans of the Civic Center. After
a discussion, the Chair appointed Mr. Jahn as Chairman of a special
study committee to meet with the architect, Mr. Moss, the Fire Chief,
Mr. Waring and Rev. Sauer of the Luthern Church to discuss the re-
vised Civic Center plan. Mr. Jahn selected Mr. Bentley to assist
him on the committee.
The Chair announced that the minutes of the last two meetings must
be disposed of. Upon a motion duly made, seconded and carried unani-
mously, it was
RESOLVED, that the minutes of the meetings held on November
13, 1952 (public hearing and 31st special) and November 25,
1952 (27th regular) be accepted as corrected.
There was a discussion regarding Miss Byers' previous request to turn
the secretary's job over to another member. Miss Byers advised that
she is again in a position to continue the job. Also, the item of
expense incurred, i.e. , phone calls in the line of duty as secretary
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to the Planning Commission, was discussed. Other members agreed that
Miss Byers should receive remuneration for the car expense involved also.
Miss Byers Said that she would like to present a statement for actual
phone calls only.
Upon a motion duly made by Robert Maclntyre and seconded by Edwin Conway,
it was
RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission allow $25.00
per month for miscellaneous expenses incurred by the
secretary.
A roil call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bentley, McNiece, Jahn, Conway, Harsha, Maclntyre and Hay
NAYS: Byers
At approximately 11:55 PM, a motion was duly made by Mr. McNiece and
seconded by George Bentley, and it was
RESOLVED, that this meeting be adjourned.
The above resolution was carried unanimously.
Thereupon, the Chair declared the meeting adjourned, and announced
that the regular meeting for January will be held on Thursday, January
15, 1953.
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Helen E. Byers, Sec i ary
ATTESTED:
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Dallas F. Hay, Ongifman