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MINUTES OF THE 744th REGULAR MEETING
HELD BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LIVONIA
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On Tuesday, June 3, 1997, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia held its
744th Regular Meeting in the Livonia City Hall, 33000 Civic Center Drive, Livonia,
Michigan.
Mr. James C. McCann, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
Members present: James C. McCann Robert Alanskas Daniel Piercecchi
John Walsh Michael Hale Elaine Koons
Members absent: Patricia Blomberg
Messrs. John J. Nagy, Planning Director; H. G. Shane, Ass't. Planning Director; and Scott
Miller, Planner III, were also present.
Mr. McCann informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda involves a
rezoning request, this Commission only makes a recommendation to the City Council
who, in turn, will hold its own public hearing and decide the question. If a petition
involves a waiver of use request and the request is denied, the petitioner has ten days in
which to appeal the decision to the City Council; otherwise the petition is terminated. The
Planning Commission holds the only public hearing on a preliminary plat and/or a vacating
�.. petition. Planning Commission resolutions become effective seven days after the
resolutions are adopted. The Planning Commission has reviewed the petitions upon their
filing and have been furnished by the staff with approving and denying resolutions. The
Commission may use them or not use them depending upon the outcome of the hearing
tonight.
Mr. McCann: Tonight we have a special guest, Mayor Kirksey, who has a few words
to say.
Mayor Kirksey: I would like to take this opportunity, Mr. Chairman, to present some
service pins to two of the folks who are in attendance this evening. I
would like to present the first service pin to Bob Alanskas for 15 years
of service to the City of Livonia. We want to thank you for the
dedicated service and contribution you have made to the City. We
certainly appreciate your dedication.
Mr. Alanskas: Thank you Mayor.
Mayor Kirksey: To John Nagy, a 30 year service pin. You are a very talented individual
and you have added much to this community. Your knowledge of
planning and what it has added over the years is very difficult to
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measure but it has been a considerable and valuable contribution to the
City.
'411. Mr. Nagy: Thank you very much. I collected my first pin from Mayor McNamara;
Mayor Bennett gave me my 20 year pin and now you have presented
me with my 30 year pin. I have had three good Mayors to work with.
Mr. McCann: Before we begin, I would like to welcome our newest member, Elaine
Koons, who we borrowed from the Livonia Public Schools to assist on
the Planning Commission.
Mr. Alanskas, Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda is Revision to Petition
95-6-8-12 by Albert Abbo & Associates, on behalf of the Nicholas Plaza,
requesting approval to revise the site and landscape plans that were approved with
this petition for the property located at 31429 Schoolcraft Road in the Northwest
1/4 of Section 26.
Mr. McCann: Mr. Nagy, do we have any new information?
Mr. Nagy: We have received correspondence from the Inspection Department
referencing subject petition, Seating at Royal Coney Island Restaurant,
which reads: As requested, the Inspection Department conducted a site
review of the subject premises. All excess seating has been removed.
The restaurant currently has 44 seats and is in compliance with the
original site plan. This letter has been signed by David M. Woodcox,
Sr. Building Inspector. That is the extent of our correspondence.
Mr. McCann: So everything is in compliance?
Mr. Nagy: Yes. The plan has been revised to show the expanded landscaping as
adjusted by the Commission at your previous study review.
Mr. McCann: If there are no questions from the Commissioners, a motion is in order.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Walsh, seconded by Mrs. Koons and unanimously
approved, it was
#6-89-97 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to
the City Council that the Revision to Petition 95-6-8-12 by Albert Abbo &
Associates, on behalf of the Nicholas Plaza, requesting approval to revise the
site and landscape plans that were approved with this petition for the property
located at 31429 Schoolcraft Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 26, be
approved subject to the following condition:
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1) That the revised Site& Landscape Plan submitted by the Nicholas Plaza
Shopping Center as received by the Planning Commission on May 12, 1997, is
hereby approved and shall be adhered to, and shall supersede the approval as
N.. set forth in Planning Commission Resolution 6-127-95.
Mr. Alanskas, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is approval of the
minutes of the 741st Regular Meeting& Public Hearings held on April 15, 1997.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Piercecchi and seconded by Mr. Walsh, it was
#7-90-97 RESOLVED that, the minutes of the 741st Regular Meeting& Public Hearings
held by the City Planning Commission on April 15, 1997 are hereby approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Piercecchi, Walsh, Hale, McCann
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Blomberg
ABSTAIN: Alanskas, Koons
Mr. McCann, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
Mr. Alanskas, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is the approval of the
row minutes of the 742nd Regular Meeting held on April 29, 1997.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Alanskas and seconded by Mr. Walsh, it was
#6-91-97 RESOLVED that, the minutes of the 742nd Regular Meeting held by the City
Planning Commission on April 15, 1997 are hereby approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Alanskas, Piercecchi, Walsh, Hale, McCann
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Blomberg
ABSTAIN: Koons
Mr. McCann, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
Mr. Alanskas, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is approval of the
minutes of the 743rd Regular Meeting& Public Hearings held on May 13, 1997.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Hale and seconded by Mr. Alanskas, it was
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#6-92-97 RESOLVED that, the minutes of the 743rd Regular Meeting& Public
Hearings held by the City Planning Commission on May 13, 1997 are
approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Alanskas, Piercecchi, Hale, McCann
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Blomberg
ABSTAIN: Walsh, Koons
Mr. McCann, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
Mr. Alanskas, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is approval of the
minutes of the 377th Special Meeting held on May 20, 1997.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Alanskas, seconded by Mrs. Koons and unanimously
approved, it was
#6-93-97 RESOLVED that, the minutes of the 377th Special Meeting held by the City
Planning Commission on May 20, 1997 are approved.
Mr. McCann, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
Mr. Alanskas, Secretary, announced the last item on the agenda is Petition 97-5-8-12 by
Dale Steltzner, on behalf of Quality Inn& Suites, requesting approval of all plans
required by Section 18.47 of the Zoning Ordinance in connection with a proposal
to construct a porte-cochere to the motel located at 30375 Plymouth Road in the
Northwest 1/4 of Section 35.
Mr. Miller: This is the Quality Inn Motel that is located on the south side of
Plymouth Road between Middlebelt and Milburn Avenue and just west
of the Kmart Store at Wonderland Mall. What they are proposing to
do is rehab the outer elevations of the motel. Also, presently the
entrance area of the motel is along the north wall and sets back in one
area 15 feet. This area will be enclosed and the enclosure will be made
flush with the rest of the north elevation. By enclosing this area it will
provide a new conference room and additional office space. Presently
the front elevation of the motel is constructed out of brick. What they
are proposing to do is resurface the whole elevation with a dryvet
material and also add this porte-cochere to the entrance area, and this
will be constructed out of dryvet with pillars and columns, and have a
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peak type of metal seam roof. Also the existing metal seam roof that
runs along this area will be replaced with a new metal seam roof. The
east elevation, which faces most of the motel's parking lot, will be also
covered with a dryvet type of material. Presently there is a textured
block with balconies. All of these balconies will be moved and the
textured block will be covered with a dryvet material and this wall will
become flush. Also, presently there is not a metal seam roof, and the
metal seam roof which is on the front elevation will continue along the
top of this elevation so it will blend in with the front elevation. The
new courtyard proposed for the front of the entrance within the parking
lot will be heavily landscaped and will have a fountain in the middle of
it and sidewalks that will run from the middle of it.
Mr. McCann: Anything additional Mr. Nagy?
Mr. Nagy: We have not received any further correspondence.
Mr. McCann: Would the petitioner come up please.
Dale Steltzner, 20244 Parkville, Livonia: I have nothing to add. All I have is a sketch of
the color and a sample of the dryvet. We also revised all the plans so
that the dryvet is protected with landscaping. (He presented his plans)
Mr. McCann: Were you aware of the letter from David Woodcox, the Building
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John Glasnak, 30375 Plymouth Road: We had Detroit Edison out over a period of several
months and they addressed that with the complainants, which is a
block over. We took the lights over to them. They approved the lights
and we changed the lights.
Mr. McCann: When was this done?
Mr. Glasnak: This was done well over a month to a month and a half ago.
Mr. McCann: The letter from the Inspection Department is dated May 27. Mr.
Miller, can you give us any additional information regarding that?
Mr. Miller: I believe it is the residents on the west side. I think they are getting
some spillage. I think the Inspection Department was saying there still
is spillage.
Mr. Glasnak: Detroit Edison went over there and put a streetlight in that is exactly
the same type of streetlight that is in front of the complainant's house,
which is a normal streetlight that reflects completely down, but we had
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some lights that you can angle. Detroit Edison came out and angled
them down as much as they could be angled and then the gentleman
still wanted to relocate it. So they went over there and took lights and
�.. everything over to him, and he approved of the light which is the same
type of light which is in front of his home, which is 20 to 25 feet in
front of his home. This is 175 feet away from his home. It is a normal
light which just reflects down. He approved it and that was the end of
it.
Mr. McCann: And your parking areas needing resealing, repairing and restriping?
Mr. Glasnak: That will take place when this does because we are going to have to
break up the front pavement in order to do this project.
Mr. McCann: So you wouldn't have a problem if we included this as part of the
resolution approving this?
Mr. Glasnak: No.
Mr. McCann: You are going to irrigate the greenbelt areas?
Mr. Glasnak: Yes.
Mr. McCann: Are there any questions from the Planning Commissioners?
Mr. Alanskas: In the very front you have a bunch of wood timbers going across the
entire front of the property, and they are tilted, ready to fall over. Are
you going to redo those?
Mr. Glasnak: Yes. We have done them a couple of times. We are just going to have
to redo the whole thing.
Mr. Alanskas: When you have redone it, what have you done to it?
Mr. Glasnak: We have actually taken out several rows of them. There were all kinds
of old railroad timbers in there. We have put smaller ones in there.
The problem is they are round and much higher than where the
pavement is. We want to plant that area and in order to do that we will
address that at that time. There used to be old evergreens out there
that were half dead, and we went and cut them out.
Mr. Alanskas: You might consider putting either large rods or wood in front so they
can't tilt, and they will stay secure. Question number two in regards to
the parking lot, you say you will repair that. What are you going to do
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to it? Because there are a lot of big holes there. Are you going to
resurface it?
Mr. Glasnak: We have contractors coming out and we want them to cut it out right
to the ground. Because what they are normally doing is coming out
and patching it, and it doesn't last and it doesn't look very good either.
We want them to come out and cut it out right through to the dirt. I
think there is concrete under there too. Cut that out and make it level
and then reseal it.
Mr. Alanskas: The front lot is in really bad shape.
Mr. Glasnak: It is my intention to completely redo it.
Mr. Alanskas: But not at this time?
Mr. Glasnak: That is a lot of money right now.
Mr. Alanskas: As long as it is repaired properly that will be fine.
Mrs. Koons: I had a question about the large green utility boxes on the east side of
the building. Will they be covered or shielded?
Mr. Glasnak: You can't do that.
Mrs. Koons: They are right in the middle of your parking lot.
Mr. Glasnak: To the side. They are Detroit Edisons. They are not ours. I believe
they have to have access to those. I don't know if we can even do that.
I would have to talk to Edison. We have had transformers blow up out
there. We have a lot of brown outs. We have a lot of people staying in
the motel because the rest of the area is affected, and they have to be
able to get to those.
Mr. Alanskas: I forgot one question. In regards to the restaurant, when do you plan
on having the restaurant open? Question number two, is that going to
be leased out to someone?
Mr. Glasnak: We are debating on that. I was in a meeting today with people on that,
and we are trying to make a decision whether or not we want to run it
ourselves with a party, or lease it to them. It hasn't been determined.
It is a question of dollars and cents, and how much they want to invest,
how much we want to invest. I don't have an answer for you today.
Mr. Alanskas: So the restaurant is down the road. It is not in the near future?
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Mr. Glasnak: There will be a restaurant there and that restaurant will be open within
six months. There is no question about that.
Mr. Hale: I noticed when I was out there that there is a dumpster enclosure
wooden fence on the west side of the building. What is going to be
done with that, if anything?
Mr. Glasnak: I am probably going to replace it.
Mr. Hale: You wouldn't have a problem with us putting that as part of the
resolution?
Mr. Glasnak: No.
Mr. Hale: Can you tell us a little bit more about the dryvet. The dryvet as I
understand it, especially on the east side of the building, is going to
come all the way down to the ground, correct? The entire resurface is
going to be dryvet?
Mr. Steltzner: We are going to stay 8 inches above the ground, and we are going to
have landscaping around the whole thing.
Mr. Hale: Is that a change from the study meeting?
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Mr. Glasnak: Yes, because there wasn't landscaping around the perimeter but we
changed it to have landscaping around the entire perimeter.
Mr. Walsh: Just to follow up on the question of the dryvet, and I appreciate the
effort that you put into protecting it, as we conveyed to you at that
time some of our concerns about it. Correct me if I am wrong. We
talked a little about the columns, and perhaps some planters or
something you might use to keep your dryvet columns from being
damaged. Do you still intend to do something like that?
Mr. Glasnak: The columns that are towards the front are actually sitting within an
island itself, which is going to be a curbed island and a landscaped
island.
Mr. Walsh: I couldn't tell from your plans. So the car really can't get near the
columns without going over a curb.
Mr. Glasnak: I am very leery of that. I don't want anyone to come in there and crash
into it with a car.
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Mr. Walsh: That is fine. Looking at it I was unclear if there was going to be that
protection.
Nom . Mr. Piercecchi: Did I understand you correctly sir that there is going to be landscaping
on the east wall?
Mr. Steltzner: Part of the east wall.
Mr. Piercecchi: Because there is an opening on the east wall, correct?
Mr. Glasnak: Right where the stones are.
Mr. Piercecchi: Is there a sidewalk there?
Mr. Glasnak: There is a sidewalk there, and then there is at least three feet between
the sidewalk and the building that has landscaping stones in there.
Mr. Piercecchi: So that will more or less protect the dryvet in that area.
Mr. McCann: If there are no other questions, a motion is in order.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Hale, seconded by Mr. Walsh and unanimously approved,
it was
#6-94-97 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to
the City Council that Petition 97-5-8-12 by Dale Steltzner, on behalf of Quality
Inn& Suites, requesting approval of all plans required by Section 18.47 of the
Zoning Ordinance in connection with a proposal to construct a porte-cochere
to the motel located at 30375 Plymouth Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section
35, be approved subject to the following conditions:
1) That the Site& Landscape Plan marked Sheet 1 dated 5/25/97, as revised,
prepared by Designs Plus Inc., is hereby approved and shall be adhered to;
2) That all planted materials, existing and proposed, shall be installed to the
satisfaction of the Inspection Department and thereafter permanently
maintained in a healthy condition.
3) That underground sprinklers are to be provided for all new and existing
landscaped and sodded areas;
4) That this establishment's entire parking lot shall be repaired, resealed and
the parking spaces shall be double striped as part of the renovation;
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5) That all existing light standards shall be shielded or relocated so that light
spillage is screened from the abutting residential properties;
,,ow 6) That the Building Exterior Elevation Plans marked Sheets 5 & 6 both dated
5/25/97, as revised, prepared by Designs Plus, Inc., is hereby approved and
shall be adhered to.
7) That the dumpster enclosure shall be replaced with more appropriate
materials as required by the Zoning Ordinance.
Mr. Alanskas: I just want to say that you are doing a wonderful job dressing up
Plymouth Road and the building looks great and to have a bad parking
lot, the sooner you get that fixed the better, and the sooner you get that
restaurant open, more people will be aware of the whole concept of
having people stay at your entity. Good luck to you.
Mr. McCann, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 744th Regular Meeting
held on June 3, 1997 was adjourned at 7:55 p.m.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
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Robert Alanskas, Secretary
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