HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 2014-10-07MINUTES OF THE 1,062"D REGULAR MEETING
HELD BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, October 7, 2014, the City Planning Commission of the City of
Livonia held its 1,062nd Regular Meeting in the Livonia City Hall, 33000 Civic
Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. Lee Morrow, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Members present: Scott Bahr R. Lee Morrow Carol A. Smiley
Gerald Taylor
Members absent: Kathleen McIntyre, Ian Wilshaw
Mr. Mark Taormina, Planning Director, was also present.
Chairman Morrow informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda
involves a rezoning request, this Commission makes a recommendation to the
City Council who, in tum, will hold its own public hearing and make the final
determination as to whether a pefifion is approved or denied. The Planning
Commission holds the only public hearing on a request for preliminary plat and/or
vacating petition. The Commission's recommendation is forwarded to the City
Council for the final delenninafion as to whether a plat is accepted or rejected. If
a petition requesting a waiver of use or site plan approval is denied tonight, the
petitioner has ten days in which to appeal the decision, in wnting, to the City
Council. Resolutions adopted by the City Planning Commission become
effective seven (7) days after the date of adoption. The Planning Commission
and the professional staff have reviewed each of these petitions upon their fling.
The staff has furnished the Commission with both approving and denying
resolutions, which the Commission may, or may not, use depending on the
outcome of the proceedings tonight.
ITEM#1 PETITION 2014-09-08-11 AUTUMNWOOD
Ms. Smiley, Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda, Petition 2014-09-
08-11 submitted by Aulumnwood of Livonia requesting approval
of all plans required by Section 18.58 of the City of Livonia
Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, in connection with a
proposal to construct additions to the nursing home at 14900
Middlebelt Road, located on the east side of Middlebell Road
between Lyndon Avenue and Five Mile Road in the Northwest
114 of Section 24.
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Mr. Taormina: This is a request to construct additions to an existing nursing
home, Aulumnwood of Livonia, which is on Middlebell Road just
south of Jamison Avenue. The zoning map shows the location
of the property in relationship to other surrounding properties
and zoning. The site is zoned OS, Office Services. The property
is roughly 2.85 acres in area. It includes 330 feel of frontage on
Middlebell Road and about 475 feel of frontage along Jamison.
The existing facility is two stories in height. It contains roughly
42,000 square feet of floor space and has 142 beds altogether.
Located immediately to the south of the properly is the
American Montessori Academy that is zoned RIF. Also to the
south are the Trinity Park Apartments. To the east is Sl.
Genevieve Catholic Churoh. To the north across Jamison
Avenue are single family homes. West across Middlebell Road
are homes as well. This facility was constructed originally in
1967. The aerial photograph shows where the building is placed
on the property. It is more or less centrally located on the site.
The request this evening involves the construction of two
relatively small additions to the south portion of the facility. I will
be referring to these as the southeast addition, which is the one
to the right, and then the south addition, which is the one
located more in the middle of site between those two wings.
You can see how the building is cross shaped. The first addition
in the southeast corner is actually an extension of that wing that
extends southward. This addition would be two stories in height.
It would add four two-bedroom units to the upper level and four
two-bedroom units to the lower level. Again, mostly all of the
patient rooms within the current facility are two and three
bedrooms. There is a lot of interior work being done within the
facility. They will be converting all of the two and three bedroom
units on the lower level to one bedroom units with the exception
of four two-bedroom units, a little bit larger in size, that are being
added to the southeast addition. On the upper level, they'll be
adding another four two-bedroom units. Altogether, they have
142 beds. When they are done with all of the conversion work
within the existing facility and with the addition to the southeast
corner, it will still result in a net reduction in the total number of
beds. They will go from 142 beds down to 130. They are within
their density limitations as prescribed in the OS district
regulations. The south addition is about 2,800 square feel in
total space and is a single story addition that would house the
building's new physical and occupational therapy services.
Once the two additions are completed, that will increase the
total floor area of the facility to about 49,520 square feet and
that includes both levels. Another aspect of the proposal is, with
the one addition there is a detached garage that interferes with
the southeast addition. So they are going to relocate that
structure to the southeast comer of the property. The new
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storage garage would be constructed in the corner of the
properly in an area that is currently being used for parking and
is part of their asphalt parking lot. Additional landscaping is
going to be added along both the south side and east side of the
properly to improve some of the screening along the areas
where the additions are being constructed. I'll let the architect
go over the details with respect to the building materials, but it
primarily consists of brick. There are some E.I.F.S. panels that
would be included in the construction. Most of the design
includes peaked roofs, and it is intended to match the exterior
appearance of the existing building. Parking for the facility is
adequate. It does meet the ordinance, and as I mentioned, they
are going to be doing additional landscaping. With that Mr.
Chairman, I can read out the correspondence.
Mr. Morrow: If you would do that please
Mr. Taormina: There are four items of correspondence. The first item is from
the Engineering Division, dated September 16, 2014, which
reads as follows: "In accordance with your request, the
Engineering Division has reviewed the above -referenced
planning petition. The existing parcel is assigned an address of
14900 Middlebelt Road, which should be used for any future
correspondence regarding the proposed project. The legal
description provided with the petition appears to be correct and
is acceptable to this department. The petitioner does not
indicate any new utilities connections for the proposed additions
on the submitted drawings, so we are unable to comment on
any impacts the proposed project may cause to the existing
systems. It should be noted that the existing building is currently
serviced by a sanitary sewer, water main and storm sewer, so
we are assuming that any new services for the proposed
additions will be extended from the existing building. Should the
owner wish to provide new utility connections to the proposed
additions, plans should be submitted to this department for
review and permitting. Although we do not have any objections
to the proposed project at this time, the following items will need
to be addressed during the permitting phase: (1) The proposed
development will need to meet the current Wayne County storm
water ordinance, including detention for any new impervious
areas. (2) The owner will need to provide this office with detailed
grading plans for existing and proposed conditions. (3) Best
management practices for soil erosion and sedimentation
control will be required including silt fencing and inlet protection.
(4) Any construction within the Middlebelt Road right -0f --way will
require permits from the Wayne County Department of Public
Service." The letter is signed by David Lear, P.E., Civil
Engineer. The second letter is from the Livonia Fire & Rescue
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Division, dated September 18, 2014, which reads as follows:
"This office has reviewed the site plan submitted in connection
with a request to construct additions to the nursing home on
property located at the above referenced address. We have no
objections to this proposal with the following stipulations: (1)
Nursing homes shall be protected throughout by an approved,
supervised automatic sprinkler system in accordance to
13.3.2.10.1 NFPA 101, 2009. (2) Providing that all details in
regards to Existing Health Care Occupancies are followed and
inspected prior to tenant use, this department has no objections
to this petltbon."The letter is signed by Daniel Lee, Fire Marshal.
The third letter is from the Division of Police, dated September
10, 2014, which reads as follows: 7 have reviewed the plans in
connection with the petition. 1 have no objections to the
proposal." The letter is signed by Joseph Boilos, Sergeant,
Traffic Bureau. The fourth letter is from the Inspection
Department, dated October 7, 2014, which reads as follows:
"Pursuant to your request, the above -referenced petition has
been reviewed. This Department has no objections to this
petition." The letter is signed by Jerome Hanna, Assistant
Director of Inspection. That is the extent of the correspondence.
Mr. Morrow:
Thank you, Mr. Taormina. Any questions of the Planning
Director? Seeing none, we'll go directly to the petitioner. If he
would come forward and give his name and address for the
record please.
At Paas, Architect,
AWP, 2392 Grant Drive, Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108. I'm the
architect representing Autumnwood. We're happy with all of the
reports that we've received and would be willing to address any
questions the Commission may have at this point.
Mr. Morrow:
All right. We'll see if the Commission has any questions of you.
Thank you, sir.
Mr. Paas:
Thank you.
Mr. Morrow:
Any questions of the petitioner?
Ms. Smiley:
Is this primarily being done to make it single bedrooms?
Mr. Paas:
Correct. Yes.
Ms. Smiley:
And then add some amenities?
Mr. Paas:
As it was pointed out, we're actually reducing the total number
of beds from 14210130, and by converting the entire lower level
to single beds, which is now what the market basically
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demands, these rooms were originally, when the building was
built, it was all two and three bedrooms. Then it was converted
to two bedrooms. So now we're going to one bedroom on the
first floor and only doubles on the second floor, even though
there was some existing triples on the second floor al this point.
So this is in accordance with what the market demands. Also,
all the first floor rooms will have individual showers, which is
again in keeping with the way nursing homes are being
constructed these days. So that's the addition. Currently,
therapy is located on the second floor, but primarily the therapy
patients will be housed on the first floor. That's why we're
putting a single story addifion out at the back which will house
the therapy services so those patients will move directly from
their f rst floor bedrooms into that area.
Ms. Smiley:
Are you seeing an increase or decrease in staff?
Mr. Paas:
We're losing 12 beds out of the 142. 1 suspect that the staff will
not change significantly one way or the other. Therapy services
are currently being provided. It's not a new service. It's simply
being relocated from the second floor to the ground floor. So I
don't think there will be a significant increase or decrease in
staffing.
Ms. Smiley:
Okay. I have one Iasi question. Is this primarily independent
Irving, assisted living, skilled nursing?
Mr. Paas:
This is skilled nursing.
Ms. Smiley:
Skilled nursing only?
Mr. Paas:
Skilled nursing as licensed by the State of Michigan. Obviously
all these plans will also need to be submitted to the State Health
Department, the Stale Fire Marshal for their review. The
building is fully sprinkled. The additions will also be fully
sprinkled. The ufilifies will extend from the existing utilities inside
in the building so there will be no new utility connections.
There's no new impervious surface proposed as part of this.
The paving will remain as is.
Ms. Smiley:
Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Morrow:
Anyone else?
Mr. Taylor:
One question. Sir, the one bedroom facilities, will they have
their own bath?
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Mr. Paas:
The majority of them will have a private bath. Some of the
smaller rooms that were in the original building, each quarter we
had large rooms on one side, small rooms on the other side.
The small rooms were originally doubles. The larger rooms were
originally triples. In both cases, those are going to go to singles
now. The larger rooms that were originally triples will have their
own individual baths serving just one room. The smaller rooms,
which were originally doubles, will have one bed in each room
and they will have a combined bath with shower that will serve
two rooms.
Mr. Taylor:
From what we've heard lately, it seems like the trend of nursing
homes is to go to single bed units.
Mr. Paas:
Correct.
Mr. Taylor:
And I guess that holds true with what you're saying.
Mr. Paas:
Exactly. Its market driven and a demand. That's what the
demand is and obviously particularly rehabilitation patients have
more choices. They shop around. Their families shop around
looking for the place to stay. So you have to have something
that appeals to that market.
Mr. Taylor:
Thankyou.
Mr. Paas:
Thankyou.
Mr. Morrow:
Anyone else? Just one question. I'm sure the additions are
going to look like the current ones.
Mr. Paas:
Correct.
Mr. Morrow:
Now how does it relate to building materials? Will it be the same
building materials that are on the other?
Mr. Paas:
Yes. We were the architects for the latest renovation which was
done I think in 2004, 2005, when we put the peaked roofs on
and actually built what is now the front entrance, portico and
that sort of thing. The brick will match. The window types will
match on the existing portion, and for the single story, again,
we'll use the same brick. We'll have the peak roofs there which
will hide the mechanical equipment on the roof of that section. It
is designed to be seamless. You won't see it as a different
addition. It is going to blend in with the rest of the building.
Mr. Morrow:
Okay. Thank you. Mrs. Smiley asked about the garage. What
are you going to do with that?
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Mr. Paas:
It will mostly be brick veneered on the exterior and have a
sloped roof on it.
Mr. Morrow:
Will 0 be a new one?
Mr. Paas:
Yes,a new one.
Mr. Morrow:
To match the architecture?
Mr. Paas:
Its in a much better location because there is space available
for a truck to stand and load and unload, where the current
location, when the truck is there it blocks parking access for one
lane of parking. So moving to this location will functionally be
much better for the parking lot and the loading and unloading.
The garage is basically used not for vehicles but for storage of
excess materials of beds that are not currently being used, other
bulk materials that are purchased and don't need to be stored in
a heated environment are stored in the garage. There's no
vehicles in the garage per se. It's a garage in a sense but its a
storeroom.
Mr. Morrow:
Okay. I think that does it as far as the questions. I'm going to go
to the audience now. Is there anybody in the audience that
wishes to speak for or against the granting of this petition?
Seeing no one coming forward, a motion would be in order.
Mr. Bahr:
I have to say this one more time while I have a chance to
because I move in a week and a half. This is right in my
neighborhood, and I do go by there all the time. I've seen the
improvements theyve done over the last 10 years and seen it
go from Middlebell Nursing Home to Autumnwood and seen it
well maintained. I'm just excited about this. It's just another
example of a business that's apparently doing well in Livonia
and an expansion and further beautification of this site. So thank
you. With that, I'd like to bring forth an approving resolution.
On a motion by Bahr, seconded by Taylor, and unanimously adopted, it was
#1034-2014
RESOLVED, that the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition 2014-09-08-11
submitted by Aulumnwood of Livonia requesting approval of all
plans required by Section 18.58 of the City of Livonia Zoning
Ordinance #543, as amended, in connection with a proposal to
construct additions to the nursing home at 14900 Middlebelt
Road, located on the east side of Middlebell Road between
Lyndon Avenue and Five Mile Road in the Northwest 114 of
Section 24, be approved subject to the following conditions:
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1. That the Site Plan marked SPA dated September 5, 2014
prepared by AWP is hereby approved and shall be
adhered to;
2. That the added landscape materials shown on the
approved Site Plan shall be installed to the satisfaction of
the Inspection Department and thereafter permanently
maintained in a healthy condition;
3. That the Building Elevations shown on the Cover Sheet
dated September 5, 2014 prepared by AWP is hereby
approved and shall be adhered to;
4. That all rooftop mechanical equipment shall be concealed
from public view on all sides by screening that shall be of a
compatible character, material and color to other exterior
materials on the building;
5. That the specific plans referenced in this approving
resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department
at the time of application for building permits; and
6. Pursuant to Section 19.10 of Ordinance #543, the Zoning
Ordinance of the City of Livonia, this approval is valid for a
period of one year only from the date of approval by City
Council, and unless a building permit is obtained, this
approval shall be null and void at the expiration of said
period.
Mr. Morrow: Is there any discussion?
Mr. Taormina: A question maybe back to the petitioner. I apologize for doing
this after he sat down, but he had mentioned that the garage
was going to be brick veneer, but I believe the elevation plans
show a CMU. I just want verification if it's going to be brick
veneer. In that case, I think we'll want to specify that in the
resolution, unless you're satisfied with some other exterior
material. They are showing block on the elevation plans. If he
could just confirm that.
Mr. Morrow: I see he's going through his plans so we'll give him a chance to
check the material on the garage.
Mr. Paas: I apologize. It does show block, painted a sort of yellow brick
color. We would like to keep that as CMU on the garage. It is
screened with landscaping on the exterior on two sides where it
faces the neighbors.
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Mr. Taormina:
Can he clarify that at the microphone.
Mr. Morrow:
My mistake. I should have had him at the mic. Would you just
repeat yourself now for the record please?
Mr. Paas:
The Planning Director is correct that the drawings do show CMU
for the garage and I misspoke. I would like to keep that as CMU.
The exterior walls are screened with landscaping on the two
sides that face the fences in that corner. So I don't think the
neighbors will be adversely affected. They are going to be
arborvitae, pretty much a continuous hedging along there and
basically the front of it will be mostly a garage door so there is
very little material that will be visible on the exterior. So we
would like to keep that CMU.
Mr. Morrow:
Thank you very much. Thank you for the clarification, Mr.
Taormina.
Mr. Paas:
Thankyou.
Mr. Morrow:
Anydiscussion?
Mr. Bahr:
I have a question. I just want to make sure I understand.
Through the Chair to Mr. Taormina, CMU is that like a block?
Mr. Taormina:
It would just be a painted block, little larger units. It won't be
your standard face brick like we're used to seeing. The building
is going to have face brick, but the garage, which is in the
corner, will be block. But as the architect indicated, there will be
landscaping around the perimeter of the garage as it faces
south and east towards the adjoining properties. It really won't
be that visible. So if you're satisfied, I am as well. I just wanted
that on the record.
Mr. Bahr:
But it will be painted the same color as the rest of the building?
Thais the intent?
Mr. Taormina:
Yes.
Mr. Bahr:
Okay.
Mr. Morrow:
So now we have the plans matching the resolution.
Mr. Taormina:
Thais correct.
Mr. Morrow,
Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing
resolution adopted. It will go on to City Council with an
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approving resolution. Good luck on the project. I look forward
to seeing it when it's all done.
ITEM #2 PETITION 2014-09-08-13 BRASHEAR TOWER
Ms. Smiley, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Petition 2014-
09-08-13 submitted by UPR Land Company requesting approval
of all plans required by Section 18.47 of the Zoning Ordinance
in connection with a proposal to remodel the exterior of the nine -
story independent senior housing facility, known as William W.
Brashear Tower, at 17841 N. Laurel Park Drive, located on the
west side of N. Laurel Park Drive between Six Mile Road and
University Drive in the Southeast 114 of Section 7.
Mr. Taormina: As was indicated, this is a request to remodel the exterior of
Brashear Towers, which is a nine -story independent senior
housing facility located on North Laurel Park Drive. The zoning
of this property is R-9, Housing for the Elderly. This facility was
constructed sometime around 1980 and is about 168,000
square feet in total size. It contains 196 units altogether. The
aerial photograph shows the location of the properly and the
surrounding area with multiple family housing to the north and
primarily office to the south and west, as well to the east,
including Laurel Park Mall. This is a photograph of the existing
exterior of the building. What we're looking at today is just
exterior remodeling. The existing facade consists of cement
asbestos panels. As the architect described to us at the study
session, they are having maintenance problems with the
material that is on the building currently. Water penetration
between the blocks is creating a problem. So to solve this, they
are looking at a new system, a skin if you will, that would go
over the existing cement asbestos panels and that skin would
consist of a metal sheathing, insulated metal panels that would
be fixed to the exterior of the exisfing building using a steel
framing system that would be lied into the superstructure. This
is actually an example in Detroit that the architect visited and
sent us photographs of that building. It has a similar type of
construction on the building. In this case, it's a red or maroon
color. They are going to use a combination of green and white
or tan for Brashear Towers. These are vertical panels that range
in size anywhere from about 30 to 36 inches in width and up to
almost 20 feet in length. So they will span two floors. I'll the let
the architect described that in greater detail. He has a sample of
one of the panels which you saw at the study meeting but he will
show you again. They are joined by longue and groove with a
special gasket between them to prevent the weather from
penetrating. He has provided us with several examples of the
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application in other buildings. The rendering shows what the
building will look like upon completion with the color scheme.
There is alternating vertical towers with the green color panel
and then intermittent usage of the tan color panel. I'll let him
show you the examples of the panels. With that Mr. Chairman, I
can go to the corespondence.
Mr. Morrow: Please.
Mr. Taormina: There are four items of corespondence. The first dem is from
the Engineering Division, dated September 19, 2014, which
reads as follows: 9n accordance with your request, the
Engineering Division has reviewed the above-referenced
petition. The address of 17841 Laurel Park Drive North is
appropriate for the existing building and should be used for all
Future matters regarding this petition. The legal description
provided with the petition contains emors and should not be
used. The following description adequately describes the
property, and should be used in connection with this petition:
Part of the SE X of Section 7, T.1S., R.9E. described as
commencing at the SE Comer of Section 7 and proceeding N
0009'10" E, 1933.01 feet along the east line of said Section 7,
said point being distant S 0009'10" W, 700.39 feet from the
East''/. Comer of Section 7, thence S 8958'00" W, 995.01 feet,
thence 418.88 feet along a curve to the left, radius 600 feet,
central angle of 4000'00" and a chord bearing and distance of
S 6957'60" W, 410.42 feet, thence N 4002'00" W, 43.00 feet to
the point of beginning, thence proceeding 175.78 feet along a
non-tangential curve to the left, radius 643 feet, central angle of
1539'48" and a chord bearing and distance of S 4208'17" W,
175.24 feet, thence N 5702'00" W, 87.77 feet, thence S
8958'00" W, 487.37 feet, thence N 0002'00" W, 349.50 feet,
thence N 8958'00" E, 454.23 feet, thence S 4002'00" E,
349.10 feet to the Point of Beginning. Containing 4.734 acres.
We have no objections to the proposed project at this time. The
proposed improvements consist of renovations to the exterior of
the existing building, and does not involve renovations to any of
the existing public service leads within the road right-of-way.
Should the owner need to relocate any of the public service
leads to the building, plans will need to be submitted to this
department to determine whether Engineering Division permits
will be required." The letter is signed by David Lear, P.E., Civil
Engineer. The second letter is from the Livonia Fire & Rescue
Division, dated October 3, 2014, which reads as follows: "This
office has reviewed the site plan submitted in connection with a
request to remodel the exterior of the nine-story independent
senior living facility located at the above referenced address.
We have no objections to this proposal" The letter is signed by
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Keith Bo, Fire Inspector. The third letter is from the Division of
Police, dated September 26, 2014, which reads as follows: 9
have reviewed the plans in connection with the petition. 1 have
no objections to the proposal." The letter is signed by Joseph
Boilos, Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The fourth letter is from the
Inspection Department, dated October 7, 2014, which reads as
follows: "Pursuant to your request, the above -referenced petition
has been reviewed. The following is noted. Structural
engineering documents and material approval reports shall be
submitted to us for review at the time of our plan review if this
project moves forward. This Department has no further
objections to this petition." The letter is signed by Jerome
Hanna, Assistant Director of Inspection. That is the extent of
the correspondence.
Mr. Morrow:
Are there any questions of the Planning Director? Seeing none,
we will go right to the petitioner and ask him to come forward
and give his name and address for the record.
Lonny Zimmerman,
AIA, Vice President, Siegal Tuomaala Associates Architects
and Planners, Inc., 29200 Northwestern Highway, Suite 160,
Southfield, Michigan 48034. I'm the architect and here tonight
also is Tony Benedetto. He's the site manager for William H.
Breashear. Tower.
Mr. Morrow:
You've heard the presentation by the Planning Director. We'll
give you the floor to add or detract from what you've heard so
far.
Mr. Zimmerman:
I think Mr. Taormina's description was as complete as I could
give to it. I brought a sample of the panel. We're going to use a
two inch panel with metal.
Mr. Morrow:
Excuse me, sir. Could you bring that up by podium so that the
TV audience can see it as you're talking about it? I hope it's not
so heavy that it becomes a burden.
Mr. Zimmerman:
No, it's not heavy. That's one of the nice things about it.
Mr. Morrow:
Okay. Good.
Mr. Zimmerman:
This is a two inch insulated metal panel. It's got metal both front
and back. This is the gray color which is light and this is the
green color. This is the texture of the panel. Its got a stippled
texture to it and the panels, as Mr. Taormina indicated, are 30 or
36 inches wide typically, and theyve got a vertical longue and
groove joint. You can see the edge of it right over here, which
will be gasgeled and at the horizontal joint, its going to be
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flashed. We intend to attach it to a structural system which will
attach it every second floor. The building has a concrete
structure system, and we have a structural engineer on board
who has indicated, after analyzing it, that the building structure
system can easily take the weight of the additional system.
Mr. Morrow:
You can have Mr. Benedetto set that down. Its served its
purpose. Thank you.
Mr. Zimmerman:
The two inches of insulation gives us some extra roughly R
value of 10 to the insulation for this panel, which will be in
addition to the insulation that is within the building. As it was
indicated, the building was built in 1980. We were the original
architects for the building. That was in the era when cement
asbestos panels were in use. The panels were thin and jointed,
and over the years the maintenance on the sealing joints has
become pretty difficult for the owner. It's been the same
ownership right from the beginning, and its been difficult for
them to maintain that. They intend to maintain their ownership
of the building into the distant future so they said we want to fix
this building up pennanenfly to eliminate any leakage, and after
evaluating various panel systems and various alternatives, it
was decided to keep the original panels in place, to actually go
into each unit with an exterior wall and remove the drywall and
make sure that the panel structure is sound that's there, and
then to apply a foam insulation to the back of the panels to
further insulate the existing panel, and then attach the new
structural system basically like a skeleton to the outside, but not
to the panels but to the structure of the building like I said, so
the existing panels will stay as they are and then we'll have a
new structural system attaching the new panels to the building
that will not use the existing system at all. The system's design
will be what is called a min barrier system which means that it
will keep the water out and that really is how we're approaching
the building. The shape of the building, the shape of the
projections in the building are not going to be changed. We are
going to be most likely changing the windows in the building but
the primary forth of the building is not going to be altered in any
way. The panels will stop slightly above the ground so they don't
really come in contact with the earth. You'll see a horizontal
joint every two floors and that is basically the way the building is
going to look, the way you see it there right now. I'd be happy
to answer any questions.
Mr. Morrow:
Are there any questions?
Mr. Taylor:
Let me see if I followed you correctly. You're going to attach
these panels to the panels that are there now.
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Mr. Zimmerman:
No, not exactly. We are putting a new exterior steel structural
system over the panels that are there now. The structural
system will be attached only to the concrete floor beams. So the
concrete floor beams will support the structural system, and
then the new panels will be supported on the new steel system.
So basically the existing system and the new system are
independent.
Mr. Taylor:
So you don't have to worry about the old ones falling off and
laking these with them?
Mr. Zimmerman:
Absolutely not. And as I mentioned in part, what's going to
happen at the same time is, in the interior of the building, we're
going to be examining the existing panels and taking care of any
structural needs that are required there.
Mr. Taylor:
Is this a fairly new material or how long has it been proven to be
durable?
Mr. Zimmerman:
You know, I can't tell how long its been in existence. All I know
is that the company has been around for quite a while. The
building that Mr. Taormina showed the photograph of is just one
in Detroit that is being done now. It actually was done, finished
about a year ago. It's right on the riverfront and it's taller than
our building. I think its about a 16 -story building, and the same
system, or a similar system from the same company is being
used at the AT&T Southfield campus. So it's the same
company. But Century as a company has been around a long
time. We've used them for panels on manyjobs in the past.
Mr. Taylor:
So it runs all the way to the ground. Correct?
Mr. Zimmerman:
Just above the ground. Say six inches above the ground.
Mr. Taylor:
How durable is it for say somebody with a lawnmower cutting
the grass? Can it be dented?
Mr. Zimmerman:
It shouldn't dent. It's not like it's a hollow panel. It's actually a
solid panel. The solid insulation that you can see the edge of
gives it durability as compared with a hollow panel. I think that it
could probably take a lot more than a stone thrown from a
lawnmower and not have any damage to it.
Mr. Taylor:
So you say Mr. Lambert still owns this building.
Mr. Zimmerman:
Yes.
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Mr. Taylor:
Well, I applaud him for bringing it up to dale. That's good news.
Theyve been around for quite a while. So thank you.
Ms. Smiley:
Yes. I like the Spartan colors, but I was trying to understand the
windows. You said 2.5 inches and then there's steel behind that
so the window would be in like 3 or 4 inches?
Mr. Zimmerman:
The windows will be essentially in the same place as you see
them now. What's happening is that they will be set back from
the panel face because right now the new panels will be roughly
3.5 or 4 inches out from where they are now. But the windows
will be in basically the same place they are now, but they will be
set back by a few more inches from the face of the panel
because they are going to stay in the same place.
Ms. Smiley:
Okay, and thalshouldn't affect the lighting?
Mr. Zimmerman:
Its not going to impact the lighting - just a few inches.
Ms. Smiley:
These are for independent living apartments for seniors. Is that
what this is?
Mr. Zimmerman:
Yes. Its all independent.
Ms. Smiley:
And you're still debating on whether the windows will open?
Mr. Benedetto:
All the actions for the windows are still on the table.
Ms. Smiley:
Okay.
Mr. Benedetto:
Nonfunctioning, functioning, normally, maybe a combination of
both because each apartment has at least two windows. So
we're still looking at different variations and that hasn't been
finally decided yet.
Ms. Smiley:
Is it unusual for the windows to be in that far on a building? I
guess so.
Mr. Zimmerman:
Its not unusual at all. I mean if you think about typical brick
construction, you've got oftentimes a brick sill, and the brick still
is roughly four or five inches by the time you take the gap and
there's the window sitting at the face of that. So really it's very
common. Mr. Taormina just put this one up.
Ms. Smiley:
Oh. Okay.
Mr. Zimmerman:
This shows you how they did it. This was a concrete block
building and they put their system over the concrete block.
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Ms. Smiley:
The steel and then this system?
Mr. Zimmerman:
I don't know exactly if they have steel. They might have gone
directly to the block. Their situation was a little bit different, but
the idea of the windows actually are pretty close in terms of the
inset of the windows. That's probably how we're going to be.
Ms. Smiley:
One more question. Do you happen to know what that building
on Jefferson is?
Mr. Zimmerman:
What it is? It's a HUD. Is it a senior building?
Mr. Benedetto:
I believe its public housing.
Mr. Zimmerman:
It is public housing, yeah.
Ms. Smiley:
Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Morrow:
Are there anyquestions forlhe petitioner? Seeing none, is there
anybody in the audience that wishes to speak for or against the
granting of this petition? Seeing no one coming forward, a
motion would be in order.0
On a motion by
Taylor, seconded by Bahr, and unanimously adopted, it was
#1035-2014
RESOLVED, that the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition 2014-09-08-13
submitted by UPR Land Company requesting approval of all
plans required by Section 18.47 of the Zoning Ordinance in
connection with a proposal to remodel the exterior of the nine -
story independent senior housing facility, known as William W.
Brashear Tower, at 17841 N. Laurel Park Drive, located on the
west side of N. Laurel Park Drive between Six Mile Road and
University Drive in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 7, be approved
subject to the following conditions:
1. That the Elevation and Details Plan marked PA dated
September 26, 2014 prepared by Siegal/Tuomaala
Associates, is hereby approved and shall be adhered to;
2. That only conforming signage is approved with this petition,
and any additional signage shall be separately submitted
for review and approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals;
3. That the specific plans referenced in this approving
resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department
at the time the building permits are applied for; and,
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4. Pursuant to Section 19.10 of Ordinance #543, the Zoning
Ordinance of the City of Livonia, this approval is valid for a
period of one year only from the date of approval by City
Council, and unless a building permit is obtained, this
approval shall be null and void at the expiration of said
period.
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing
resolution adopted. It will go on to City Council with an
approving resolution. I just want to add that I live on North
Laurel Park Drive, and I go by there all the time, and I look
forward to seeing this come to fruition. Thank you very much.
ITEM #3 APPROVAL OF MINUTES 1,061't Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting
Ms. Scheel, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Approval of the
Minutes of the 1,061't Public Hearings and Regular Meeting
held by the Planning Commission on September 23, 2014.
On a motion by Taylor, seconded by Smiley, and adopted, it was
#1036-2014 RESOLVED, that the Minutes of 1,061 Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting held by the Planning Commission on
September 23, 2014, are hereby approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES:
Smiley, Taylor, Morrow
NAYS:
None
ABSTAIN:
Bahr
ABSENT:
McIntyre, Wilshaw
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing
resolution adopted.
Mr. Taylor: Mr. Chairman, there is someone at the podium.
First unidentified person: We're not on the agenda but we have an objection of a
situation that's within our subdivision, and we want to know if we
can have some direction from you as far as how to handle the
situation. Its in regards to Sarah Estates.
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Mr. Taylor:
What's the question, because you may be before the wrong
body?
First unidentified person: The question is, they're trying to build three homes in
the subdivision where we're at. They're trying to build them on
top of wetlands and theyre protected. So we're trying to, and
we've already given a petition here to the City and also with the
MDEQ. We're trying to figure out exactly what we can do in
orderlo...
Mr. Morrow:
Lel me do this. Would you have any idea, Mr. Taormina?
Mr. Taormina:
At this point in time, the matter is before the MDEQ for
evaluation. So I would suggest to the speaker and the other
residents that they follow up with the MDEQ. If they receive
notice from the MDEQ relative to the review of this matter, then
they should follow up with them at this point because they would
decide whether to allow any construction in the wetlands. The
type of project, the land division that is proposed there, may or
may not have to come before this body. That has yet to be
determined. There is a good chance that this body won't see the
request. That would be something that would rest with the
MDEQ with respect to whether or not any wetlands, if there are
wetlands discovered on the property and they are going to be
impacted, and that's something the MDEQ decides on.
Mr. Morrow:
So If I'm following you, it's before the MDEQ.
Mr. Taormina:
That is correct.
Mr. Morrow:
If they make a decision that its a welland, then I think that's a
final determination.
Mr. Taormina:
Well, then there would be a permit request if there's a request to
alter those wetlands. There's a couple steps in that process.
One, evaluate whether or not they are wetlands or regulated
wetlands; secondly, is there impact to the wetlands, or would
there be impact, and whether or not a permit would be issued to
allow for that impact. So all those things I think are under view
by the MDEQ.
Mr. Morrow:
Then if it goes forward from there, then maybe the City would be
involved, but up until that time ...
Mr. Taormina:
That is correct.
Second unidentified
person: But I believe the city has been involved. Correct? I
mean, hasn't work been done relative to sewers and streets?
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The problem, sir, is that we're playing from behind here. There
hasn't been a lot of transparency. Our subdivision is completed
and done. There's two open lots which still can be built on.
Essentially, what they're trying to do is blast into a wetland and
force residential development in the area.
Mr. Morrow: I understand what you're saying. In other words, the Planning
Commission would not be involved in that.
Mr. Taormina: Actually they should contact the Engineering Department with
respect to any permitting that is being reviewed right now by the
City for the extension of any utilities into that area because I
think all of that is on hold pending the review by the MDEQ.
First unidentified person: Right.
Mr. Taormina: So nothing will happen by the City unfit that determination is
made. So we're basically waiting to hear from the MDEQ.
Second unidentified person: But once more, the sensitivity is, is we're reacting
because we're not getting notification. So its by accident we're
learning that the City had done engineering studies.
Mr. Morrow: In other words, I'm assuming the lots exist there now. Its
whether or not you can build on them.
Second unidentified person: There is no lots. It's a forest with a pond.
First unidentified person: And its actually connected to a pond. It's like the
filtering for the whole surrounding our neighborhood.
Mr. Morrow: I got the picture but I wish we could help you out tonight, but
we're just the wrong body.
Second unidentified person: We're just trying to do discovery and play a little bit
of catchup, Sir.
Mr. Morrow: You can go to the City Council. They have before and after
every meeting, you can address whatever you want to. Have
you been to the City Council?
Second unidentified person: We have not.
Mr. Morrow: Well, before every meeting and after every meeting, they allow
residents to address them.
Second unidentified person: Well, you've been most helpful. Thank you very
much.
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Mr. Morrow: Theyre kind of over the picture; we're very narrowly focused.
Mr. Taormina: I'd be happy to talk to these folks. If you want to call the
Planning Department early next week, I'll be able to explain the
situation in greater detail.
Second unidenfif ed person: Ok. Thank you for your time.
Mr. Morrow: I wish we could have been more help.
First unidentified person: No, you were very helpful.
Ms. Smiley: I'm sorry you sat through the whole meeting. Although it's nice
to have an audience. Thank you for coming.
First unidentified person: We're just trying to gel some answers so we
appreciate anything you can give.
Mr. Morrow: We were officially adjourned at 7:43.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 1,061't Regular
Meeting held on October 7, 2014, was adjourned at 7:43 p.m.
ATTEST:
R. Lee Morrow, Chairman
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
Carol A. Smiley, Secretary