HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 2011-01-25MINUTES OF THE 1,004rH PUBLIC HEARINGS AND REGULAR MEETING
HELD BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, January 25, 2011, the City Planning Commission of the City of
Livonia held its 1,004" Public Hearings and Regular Meeting in the Livonia City
Hall, 33000 Civic Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. Lee Morrow, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Members present: Ashley Krueger Deborah McDermott R. Lee Morrow
Carol A. Smiley Gerald Taylor Ian Wilshaw
Members absent: Lynda Scheel
Mr. Mark Taormina, Planning Director, and Ms. Margie Watson, Program
Supervisor, were also present.
Chairman Morrow informed the audience that if a petition on tonighfs agenda
involves a rezoning request, this Commission makes a recommendation to the
City Council who, in tum, will hold its own public hearing and make the final
determination as to whether a pefifion is approved or denied. The Planning
Commission holds the only public hearing on a request for preliminary plat and/or
vacating petition. The Commission's recommendation is forwarded to the City
Council for the final delerminafion as to whether a plat is accepted or rejected. If
a petition requesting a waiver of use or site plan approval is denied tonight, the
petitioner has ten days in which to appeal the decision, in writing, to the City
Council. Resolutions adopted by the City Planning Commission become
effective seven (7) days after the date of adoption. The Planning Commission
and the professional staff have reviewed each of these petitions upon their fling.
The staff has furnished the Commission with both approving and denying
resolutions, which the Commission may, or may not, use depending on the
outcome of the proceedings tonight.
ITEM #1 PETMON 2010-12-02-19 LUBE CUBE
Ms. Smiley, Acting Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda, Petition
2010-12-02-19 submitted by Ed Khalil requesting waiver use
approval to construct and operate a quick oil change facility
(Lube Cube) at 28085 Plymouth Road, located on the south
side of Plymouth Road between Harrison Road and Deering
Avenue in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 36.
Mr. Taormina provided background on the item and presented a map showing
the properly under petition plus the existing zoning of the surrounding area.
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Mr. Morrow: Is there any correspondence?
Mr. Taormina: There are five items of correspondence. The first item is from
the Engineering Division, dated January 14, 2011, which reads
as follows: 9n accordance with your request, the Engineering
Division has reviewed the above -referenced petition. The legal
description provided does close property, but does not show the
60' right of way dedicated for Plymouth Road. This should be
corrected when preparing detailed engineering drawings. The
address according to our records is 28085 Plymouth Road. A
copy of this comespondence is being provided to the petitioner
to apprise of the following additional information: Plymouth
Road is under the jurisdiction of the State of Michigan. Before
preparing detailed Engineering drawings, the petitioner should
contact the State Department of Transportation to determine
what requirements they may have which would affect the design
or permitting. Our records indicate that there is more than one
storm sewer system within the Plymouth Road right-of-way.
There is an 844nch diameter storm sewer known as the Livonia
Drain No. 1. 1 believe this may be the sewer the petitioner is
proposing to tap for the storm water discharge point. It is
important to note that this drain was originally under the
jurisdiction of Wayne County. Jurisdiction of this drain was
relinquished to the City of Livonia on December 6, 1990. Due to
the size of the site, a storm water treatment vault (Stormceptor
or similar) is required before the storm water Flows enter the
receiving storm sewer. The plan indicates connection to the
sanitary sewer south of the site. If not already done, the
petitioner should contact the Engineering Division to obtain
existing information on this sewer to facilitate the design
process." The letter is signed by Kevin G. Roney, P.E.,
Assistant City Engineer. The second letter is from the Livonia
Fire & Rescue Division, dated January 4, 2011, which reads as
follows: 'This office has reviewed the site plan submitted in
connection with a request for a waiver use approval to constmct
and operate a quick oil change facility on property located at the
above referenced address. We have no objections to this
proposal." The letter is signed by Earl W. Fester, Senior Fire
Inspector. The third letter is from the Division of Police, dated
December 29, 2010, which reads as follows: We have
reviewed the plans in connection with Lube Cube Oil Change
located at 28085 Plymouth. We have no objections or
recommendations to the plans as submitted." The letter is
signed by John Gibbs, Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The fourth
letter is from the Inspection Department, dated January 18,
2011, which reads as follows: "Pursuant to your request, the
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above -referenced petition has been reviewed. The following is
noted. (1) All parking spaces are required to be a minimum of
10' by 20' and double striped. (2) Barrier free parking spaces
are to be property sized, signed and striped. At least one van
accessible space must be provided which requires a minimum
of a 5 foot wide hashed access aisle alongside of the 11 foot
wide parking space. The petitioner does not show an access
aisle next to the accessible space. It may also be an 8 foot aisle
and an 8 foot parking space. (3) All rooftop equipment must be
screened from view on all sides. (4) Gates on the dumpster
enclosure shall be steel and/or as approved by the Planning
Commission. (5) The Petitioner shows a greenbelt to be
installed in lieu of a protective wall along the south property line.
This proposed greenbe# must be approved by the Planning
Commission and/or City Council. (6) No provisions for storm
water management have been provided. This will be addressed
by the Inspection Department and the Engineering Department
at the time of our plan review if this project moves forward. (7)
No signage has been reviewed at this time. This Department
has no further objections to this petition." The letter is signed by
Jerome Hanna, Assistant Director of Inspection. The next letter
is from the Plymouth Road Development Authority, dated
January 21, 2011, which reads as follows: "At the 225' Regular
Meeting of the Plymouth Road Development Authority of the
City of Livonia held on January 20, 2011, the following
resolution was unanimously adopted: #2011-04 RESOLVED,
that the Plymouth Road Development Authority does hereby
support the proposed plans as presented by Ed Khalil
requesting waiver use approval to construct and operate a quick
oil change facility (Lube Cube) at 28085 Plymouth Road,
located on the south side of Plymouth Road between Harrison
Road and Deering Avenue in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 36
(Petition 2010-12-02-19), subject to compliance with all City
codes and ordinances and the Plymouth Road Development
stmetscape goals and objectives, as such may be modified by
the action of the Planning Commission and/or City Council, and
further provided that the landscaping in front of the building
complement the existing PRDA landscape improvements, and
that the Planning Commission encourage further consideration
of rear entry/front exit from the service doors." The letter is
signed by Mark Taormina, Planning Director. That is the extent
of the correspondence.
Mr. Morrow: Are there any questions of Mr. Taormina before we go to the
petitioner? Seeing none, is the petitioner present? Sir, we will
need your name and address for the record please.
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Amarjil Chawney, Architect, Architectural Forensics Associates, L.L.C., P.O. Box
250059, Franklin Village, Michigan 48025. Good evening to you
all. Mark had made an excellent presentation. I don't know
what I can add to it except for a couple things. We intend to
follow the PRDA requirements. I met with them Iasi Thursday.
Its a very basic building. We meet all the zoning ordinance
requirements. The color of the brick will be very comparable
with what the development on Middlebell and Plymouth Road,
the Walmarl areas, very earth lone colors. The person who will
lease it, he already owns two other similar facilities elsewhere in
the metro area. If you have any questions, I'd be more than
happy to answer them.
Mr. Morrow:
Thank you. Are there any questions for the petitioner?
Mr. Taylor:
If I may say, every oil change that I've been to, you enter
through the back and go out through the front as was suggested
by the Planning Director, Mark Taormina. Is there a reason why
you want to come in the front and go out the back?
Mr. Chawney:
Okay. This was basically the requirement of the person who will
lease it. He feels that when you come in the front, the place
looks a little busier, even though whenever I have gone to gel
an oil change, I've gone there many, many times, you stay in
the car. Usually, there is not more than two or three people at
any given time. I have never seen any backlog in any such
facilities at all. I should say I have rarely seen a backlog, and
they want the place to look a little busy in the front so it looks
like they're doing good business. That's the only consideration.
Mr. Taylor:
I guess the reason I ask is, if there were any cars in the back,
they're not lining up in the front for people to see them as
they're going by. The front of your building is showing. The
only time a car comes out is when the door opens and you go
out.
Mr. Chawney:
Personally, I think you have a verygood point of view. It can go
either way, but we are following what we were told by the
person who will lease it.
Mr. Taylor:
What are your hours of operation?
Mr. Chawney:
The hours will be, basically in the summertime, 7:00 a.m. to
7:00 p.m., and the wintertime, about the same. But it won't go
beyond 7:00 p.m. in the evening.
Ms. Smiley: Okay. That sounds good. The other thing I wanted to tell you
is, if I were to drive by there and see cars slacked up in front,
because its a quick lube, I'd drive by. So you might want to tell
your owner that he should consider going in the back because if
I'm already committed to going around the back, I could
probably wail five minutes, but if I drove by and saw cars
slacked up there, I would think now is not a good time for a
quick lube.
Mr. Chawney: Between you and me, I agree with you.
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Mr. Taylor:
Do you know the type of material you're going to use on the
dumpsler cover? Is it going to be brick?
Mr. Chawney:
We have not decided that yet, but it will be very sturdy. It will
meet all the requirements of the Engineering Department of the
City of Livonia. The doors will be steel doors as the ordinance
requests.
Mr. Taylor:
Well, we normally ask for brick that is the same brick that's on
the building. Now, our Condition #7 says a complementary
building material, which leaves a lot of openings for me.
Mr. Chawney:
I would recommend to the gentlemen that we agree with what
you're saying.
Mr. Taylor:
Thank you, sir.
Ms. Smiley:
There is some discussion about banking some of the parking in
front since you have extra parking spaces so that you can add
some more landscaping in the front of the building.
Mr. Chawney:
Yes. That's a very good point. When we were at the meeting at
the PRDA, we discussed that. What we are going to do is
eliminate one parking space in the front, take half of that, add to
the extra landscaping, and then put the other half right next to
the building to the parking space for the physically handicapped.
When we provide that, we have enough space between that and
the face of the building. We are required to have eight plus
eight or, I believe, twelve plus four, either way we're required 16
feel there. We already have 16 feel there, but I would
recommend to the owner that we put in an extra space between
the face of the building and the edge of the parking delineation.
So we will take one parking space out, which is 10 feet, add five
feet to the landscaping and five feel in front of the building.
Ms. Smiley: Okay. That sounds good. The other thing I wanted to tell you
is, if I were to drive by there and see cars slacked up in front,
because its a quick lube, I'd drive by. So you might want to tell
your owner that he should consider going in the back because if
I'm already committed to going around the back, I could
probably wail five minutes, but if I drove by and saw cars
slacked up there, I would think now is not a good time for a
quick lube.
Mr. Chawney: Between you and me, I agree with you.
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Ms. Smiley:
I think the rear entry is much better traffic flow loo. Thank you,
Mr. Chair.
Ms. McDermott:
Good evening. I wanted to ask about the signage. It was
menfioned that there's several signs proposed but that's going
to require a variance. Do you know if the owner wants to have
all of those signs or do you have any more information?
Mr. Chawney:
What I have already told the gentleman is that we will follow
exactly what the City of Livonia requires. There is a sign
ordinance, and we intend to follow the sign ordinance. When
we get into detailed drawings, you know, at that time we will
resolve all these issues. Basically, I look at them as a minor
issue, and they will be resolved before the site plan is approved,
which I'm sure will come again in front of you once more for the
site plan approval. This is only for what I understand is for the
waiver, if I'm not mistaken. We intend to conform with the
ordinance requirements of the City of Livonia.
Ms. McDermott:
Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Morrow:
Mark, are we not approving the site plan here tonight also?
Mr. Taormina:
Yes, that's what we're here for, that and the waiver use. They
are one and the same in this case.
Mr. Morrow:
It will not be coming back after tonight.
Mr. Chawney:
Oh. Thank you.
Mr. Morrow:
The only thing that relates to sign, is sometimes when people
haven't got a definite sign package, we ask them for a call back
item so that we can actually see what it looks like. I dont know
if the Commission wants to do that or not, but certainly I would
advise you to have it for the City Council should this go forward.
Mr. Wlshaw:
Mr. Chawney, just a couple quick questions. I do want to start
off by saying that I appreciate how cooperative you're being with
all these different groups that are asking for different things. I
really appreciate that. Are there going to be any other services
offered at this oil change place other than oil change or is it
strictly oil change?
Mr. Chawney:
No. Its strictly oil change. Nothing else. No automobile
repairs. Nothing. Basically, just oil change.
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Mr. Wlshaw:
How are you going to handle the storage of the oil? Is
internal? There's a tank that you're storing this in?
Mr. Chawney:
There's a basement. We're going to put a basement underneath
and most of the storage will be in there. We will have tanks with
oil that they pump into the engine. Basically, it is self-contained.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Okay. Are there going to be any mechanical devices on the
rooftop, air conditioners or other units that are going to be on
the roof?
Mr. Chawney:
I don't believe so but basically you have to heat the place.
There will be space heaters in the garage area, but then there is
a little office that may have its own heating unit. I can't answer
that question at this time.
Mr. W Ishaw:
Okay. The only reason we ask is, if you do put anything on the
roof, we want it screened so that it's not visible.
Mr. Chawney:
That's true. That's very, verytrue. It will be screened.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Okay. Very good. Thank you.
Mr. Morrow:
Any further questions? I'm making the basic assumpfion that
the brick we're talking about is full face four inch brick.
Mr. Chawney:
Yes. It will be very similar to what you have at Plymouth Road
and the Middlebell area. We want to maintain the same
character.
Mr. Taormina:
Just a quick question regarding the landscaping. As I
understand it, you're going to enlarge the island that is just north
of the parking space in the northeast corner of the parking lot.
So this space would be removed and half of that area will be
devoted to widening this island, and then the balance of the
area, another five feet or so, will be needed in order to make
this a conforming barrier free space. Is that correct?
Mr. Chawney:
That's true.
Mr. Taormina:
Okay. There are a couple of trees planted along the front of the
property. There's a couple Iargerirees thatwe understand have
to come out as part of the site development process. There are
a couple other trees, and I'm not sure where they fall in
relationship to these areas. Are you aware if those trees have
to be removed? They are planted in a row. I think there are
Ken Hamilton, General Manager, Feinn Tire, 28055 Plymouth, Livonia, Michigan
48150. We are right next door to their proposed lube shop here.
Of course, we are opposed to it. That's what we do there. We
do oil changes. I mean I've never mel these gentlemen here
before, but I think we've been a real good citizen, business in
Livonia now for 37 years. How many oil change shops do we
have to gel on Plymouth Road? I know that Speedy, a couple
doors down right there at Harrison and Plymouth Road, they do
oil changes. We do them. You can go half a mile east. You can
go half a mile west. You've got these oil change shops at every
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three trees. If those would be removed, are there any plans to
reintroduce trees in this area?
Mr. Chawney:
If you will allow me to make a comment. I live in Beverly Hills,
and I built my house in 1994. It is full of trees. To protect some
trees, I went the extra length. If it was within 10 feel of the
building, I didn't want it cul. These trees were like 24 inch, 30
inches. Within three years, two of them died. Once the building
is built, it is very difficult and very expensive to then cut them
and remove them. I would say here, if we can preserve the
trees, yes, we will make every effort to do so, but my experience
is that trees don't survive if they are within 15 feet of a building
when you excavate, but we will do our best to retain them if we
can.
Mr. Taormina:
Mr. Chair, what I would recommend then is that we fashion
some kind of language in the resolution should it be approved
this evening that would either preserve those trees or require
some trees to be replanted in the event that they cannot be
saved.
Mr. Morrow:
Duly noted. Any other questions?
Mr. Chawney:
I just want to make a little comment. Il will provide four new jobs
in the City of Livonia. The intent is four employees.
Mr. Morrow:
Thank you. I'm going logo to the audience to see ...
Mr. Chawney:
I'm sorry. The one who is going to lease the building and
operate it is a resident of Livonia himself. Any other questions,
I'll be happy to answer.
Mr. Morrow:
I think we're all set. I'm going to go the audience to see if there
is anyone that wishes to speak for or against this petition. If you
would please come forward to one of the podiums. We need
your name and address for the record.
Ken Hamilton, General Manager, Feinn Tire, 28055 Plymouth, Livonia, Michigan
48150. We are right next door to their proposed lube shop here.
Of course, we are opposed to it. That's what we do there. We
do oil changes. I mean I've never mel these gentlemen here
before, but I think we've been a real good citizen, business in
Livonia now for 37 years. How many oil change shops do we
have to gel on Plymouth Road? I know that Speedy, a couple
doors down right there at Harrison and Plymouth Road, they do
oil changes. We do them. You can go half a mile east. You can
go half a mile west. You've got these oil change shops at every
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street comer now. Its a good revenue for business. That's why
you see so many of them. I was sort of surprised that he said
he wasn't going to do anything else but oil changes. Its usually
radiator flushes, hoses, you know, that type of thing. General
maintenance that you would do to an automobile is what also
accompanies oil changes. So that's why I thought I would come
in here and just lel you know what our position is on it.
Mr. Morrow: Thank you. Any questions for this gentleman? I guess not.
Thank you for your input. Is there anyone else in the audience?
Yes, sir.
Sam Klemens, 27601 Oakley, Livonia, Michigan 48154. I'm the one that owns all
the Lube Cubes. I'm the one that wants to open up here. In
respect to Feinn Tire, we're not doing auto repair. This is strictly
a drive-thru oil change. The Speedy down the street is not a
drive-lhm oil change, neither is Feinn Tire. Its going to be
strictly drive-lhm oil change. Just wanted to let him know that.
That's it.
Mr. Morrow: Is there any other ancillaryservice that you perform?
Mr. Klemens: Of course, there's lube. There's radiator flushes, fuel filters. It's
just your basic maintenance on vehicles but no auto repair.
Mr. Morrow: Thank you. Any questions of the gentleman? Anyone else in
the audience? Any questions? Seeing none, I'm going to close
the public hearing and ask for a motion. Second time, do we
have a motion?
On a motion by Taylor, seconded by Smiley, and unanimously adopted, it was
#01-01-2011 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been
held by the City Planning Commission on January 25, 2011, on
Petition 2010-12-02-19 submitted by Ed Khalil requesting waiver
use approval to construct and operate a quick oil change facility
(Lube Cube) at 28085 Plymouth Road, located on the south
side of Plymouth Road between Harrison Road and Deering
Avenue in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 36, which properly is
zoned G2, the Planning Commission does hereby recommend
to the City Council that Petition 2010-12-02-19 be approved
subject to the following conditions:
1. That the Site Plan marked Sheet S-1 prepared by ECKO
Inc., dated December 16, 2010, is hereby approved and
shall be adhered to;
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2. That the landscaping shown on the above -referenced Site
Plan is hereby approved and shall be completed in
accordance with said plan, subject to the following
stipulations:
- That all planted materials shall be installed to the
satisfaction of the Inspection Department and thereafter
permanently maintained in a healthy condition, and any
existing plant material to remain or be relocated that is
dead or dying shall be replaced with new plant material
of the same variety or with a variety of equal quality and
growth characteristics;
- That all disturbed lawn areas shall be sodded in lieu of
hydroseeding;
- That all landscaped and sodded areas shall be
provided with an automatic underground irtigation
system;
That the landscaped greenbelt along the south property
line shown on the above -referenced Site Plan is hereby
accepted and shall be substituted for the protective wall
required by Section 18.45 of the Zoning Ordinance. That
any change of circumstances in the area containing the
greenbelt resulting in a diminution of the greenbelts
effectiveness as a protective barrier, the owner of the
property shall be required to submit such changes to the
Planning Commission for their review and approval or
immediately construct the prolective wall;
4. That the issues specified in the Plymouth Road
Development Authority (PRDA) Resolution #2011-04 shall
be resolved to the safisfaction of the Planning Director,
including reversing the traffic flow so that vehicles being
serviced enter the building from the rear (south) and exit
through the front (north);
5. That the Building Elevations Plans, both marked Sheet A-1
prepared by ECKO Inc., dated December 16, 2010, are
hereby approved and shall be adhered to;
6. That any rooftop mechanical equipment shall be concealed
from public view on all sides by screening that shall be of a
compatible character, material and color to other exterior
materials on the building;
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7. That the three walls of the trash dumpster area shall be
constructed out of building materials that shall complement
that of the building and the enclosure gates shall be of
solid panel steel construction or durable, long-lasting solid
panel fiberglass and maintained and when not in use
closed at all times;
8. That all parking spaces shall be double striped, including
the provision of barrier free parking with proper signage,
marking and configuration, and all regular spaces shall be
10 feet by 20 feet in size as required;
9. That all light poles shall be a maximum of 20 feet high
including the base and all light fixtures shall be shielded to
minimize glare trespassing on adjacent properties and
roadway;
10. That this site shall meet either the City of Livonia or the
Wayne County Storm Water Management Ordinance,
whichever applies, and shall secure any required permits,
including storm water management permits, wetlands
permits and soil erosion and sedimentation control permits,
from Wayne County, the City of Livonia, and/or the State of
Michigan Department of Natural Resources and
Environment (DNRE);
11. That only conforming signage is approved with this petition,
and any additional signage shall be separately submitted
for review and approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals;
12. That no LED lighthand or exposed neon shall be permitted
on this site including, but not limited to, the building or
around the windows; and
13. That the specific plans referenced in this approving
resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department
at the time the building permits are applied for.
Subject to the preceding conditions, this petition is approved for
the following reasons:
1. That the proposed use complies with all of the general
waiver use standards and requirements as set forth in
Section 19.06 of the Zoning Ordinance #543;
2. That the subject site has the capacity to accommodate the
proposed use; and
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3. That the proposed use is compatible to and in harmony
with the surrounding uses in the area.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 19.05 of
Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr. Morrow:
Is there any discussion?
Mr. Taylor:
Mark, I'm not sure we need Condifion #9. They're not going to
put any light poles up.
Mr. Taormina:
Well, should there be change where they want to introduce a
couple light poles, I think its better than we keep that condition
in there.
Mr. Taylor:
Okay.
Mr. Morrow:
Mark, does Condition #2 address the concern you had about the
removal of trees and replacement if necessary?
Mr. Taormina:
Yes, Ithink so.
Mr. Morrow:
That will take care of it? Any discussion?
Mr. Taormina:
Mr. Chair, if I may? The only concern I would have is with
respect to Condition #4. 1 would ask for a little more direction
from the Planning Commission if, as was discussed earlier, the
front entry is satisfactory.
Mr. Morrow:
Are speaking in terms of splitting the parking spot?
Mr. Taormina:
No, I'm talking about whethervehicles enter from the front ofthe
building as opposed to the backside because Condition #4
would suggest that that decision be left up to the Planning
Department.
Mr. Taylor:
Did I hear the petitioner say that he was willing to enter through
the back?
Mr. Taormina:
The proprietor wants to maintain it the way it's shown here even
though he understands why there might be some preference to
enter from the south side.
Mr. Klemens:
That's fine. It's not a big deal. I know some cifies don't like the
stacking in front of the building. I own a couple locations.
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Lincoln Park is the same way. They like it coming in from the
back not from the front. It's fine. Its not a big deal. I just
figured if it wasn't a big deal, great. If not, we'll ship them
around the back. Not a big deal.
Mr.
Taylor:
Marc, would you like us to clarify that?
Mr.
Taormina:
If you feel ft's of importance. I know that was something the
PRDA wanted to see.
Mr.
Taylor:
Well, I notice it in the PRDA letter, and I asked you at the study
session if we couldn't do it that way too.
Mr.
Taormina:
Why dont you go ahead and embody that in the resolution.
Mr.
Taylor:
Why don't we do, that all entrances shall be on the south side of
the building and exits on the north side of the building?
Mr.
Taormina:
That's fine.
Mr.
Morrow:
Does the supporter support that?
Ms.
Smiley:
Yes, I'm in favor of that.
Mr.
Morrow:
You are in favor of that. We don't want you driving by. I think
we satisfied all the questions and comments.
Mr.
Morrow,
Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing
resolution adopted. It will go on to City Council with an
approving resolution.
ITEM #2 PETITION 2010-12-02-20 MANCINI MOTORS
Ms. Smiley, Acting Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Petition
2010-12-02-20 submitted by Richard Mancini requesting waiver
use approval to operate a used auto dealership (Mancini
Motors) with outdoor display of vehicles at 29074 Plymouth
Road, located on the north side of Plymouth Road between
Middlebell Road and Camden Avenue in the Southwest 1/4 of
Section 25.
Mr. Taormina provided background on the item and presented a map showing
the property under petition plus the existing zoning of the surrounding area.
Mr. Morrow: Is there any correspondence?
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Mr. Taormina: There are five items of correspondence. The first item is from
the Engineering Division, dated January 14, 2011, which reads
as follows: "In accordance with your request, the Engineering
Division has reviewed the above -referenced petition. The legal
description provided does not describe the premises. The
following legal description describes the property and the
premises .... The address according to our records is 29070
Plymouth Road. We trust this provides you with the requested
information." The letter is signed by Kevin G. Roney, P.E.,
Assistant City Engineer. The second letter is from the Livonia
Fire & Rescue Division, dated January 4, 2011, which reads as
follows: "This office has reviewed the site plan submitted in
connection with a request for a waiver use approval to operate a
used auto dealership on property located at the above -
referenced address. We have no objections to this proposal."
The letter is signed by Ead W. Fesler, Senior Fire Inspector.
The third letter is from the Division of Police, dated December
29, 2010, which reads as follows: We have reviewed the plans
in connection with Mancini Motors, located at 29074 Plymouth.
We have no objections to the plans as submitted. However, the
Traffic Bureau is requesting that the petitioner not utilize any
residential streets (Haller) for testing of vehicles." The letter is
signed by John Gibbs, Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The fourth
letter is from the Inspection Department, dated January 18,
2011, which reads as follows: "Pursuant to your request, the
above -referenced petition has been reviewed. The following is
noted. (1) All parking spaces are required to be a minimum of
10' by 20' and double striped. (2) There is a space between the
existing vinyl fence and chain link fence located at the rear of
the property. How is this area proposed to be maintained? (3)
Gates on the existing dumpster enclosure are not specified on
the plan. Gates must be shown on plan and depicted as
complying with all regulations. This Department has no further
objections to this petition." The letter is signed by Jerome
Hanna, Assistant Director of Inspection. The next letter is from
the Plymouth Road Development Aulhoril , dated January 21,
2011, which reads as follows: !1t the 225 Regular Meeting of
the Plymouth Road Development Authority of the City of Livonia
held on January 20, 2011, the following resolution was
unanimously adopted. #2011-05 Resolved, that in
consideration of the proposed plans as presented by Richard
Mancini requesting waiver use approval to operate a used auto
dealership (Mancini Motors) with outdoor display of vehicles at
29074 Plymouth Road, located on the north side of Plymouth
Road between Middlebelt Road and Camden Avenue in the
Southwest 114 of Section 25 (Petition 2010-12-02-20), the
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Plymouth Road Development Authority is not in a position to
make a recommendation at this time due to insufficient
information regarding the landscape plan." The letter is signed
by Mark Taormina, Planning Director. That is the extent of the
correspondence.
Mr. Morrow:
Are there any questions for the Director? Seeing none, is the
petitioner here this evening? We need your name and address
please.
Richard Mancini, 31235 Morlock, Livonia, Michigan 48152.
Mr. Morrow:
Do you have anything you'd like to add to the presentation?
Mr. Mancini:
We're just going to run a very nice and clean operation in
Livonia, and we're looking forward to it.
Mr. Morrow:
I'm sure that the Commission will probably have a question or
two. Does anyone have a question for Mr. Mancini?
Mr. Wilshaw:
Where are the people that come to visit your place going to
park?
Mr. Mancini:
Where are they going to park?
Mr. Wlshaw:
Yes.
Mr. Mancini:
In the east parking lot.
Mr. Wilshaw:
The space there in front of the fence?
Mr. Mancini:
That's correct.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Those are labeled right now as being for car display.
Mr. Mancini:
No. You drive back and there's a fence there right now. The
first parking spots there are going to be for customers. The
ones before the fence are allotted for cars on display.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Okay.
Mr. Mancini:
So the customers will drive through and they will park towards
the back.
Mr. Wlshaw:
Okay. So they're going to go through the fence and park in
those spaces behind it there?
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Mr. Mancini:
Thats correct.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Okay. Where are you going to gel these cars from that you're
going to sell? Are these going to be a particular brand or is this
going to be random use cars?
Mr. Mancini:
The cars that we generally sell are around $10,000 give or take.
They are all used cars. We acquire most of the cars as of yet
on the computer from people like yourself. We do go to the
auctions, but not as much. It's kind of hard to find a car in 45
seconds, and the auctions are all kind of fighting over them and
that's really not my style.
Mr. Wlshaw:
Okay. You're going to have a few cars that are going to be
displayed inside the building as well, right?
Mr. Mancini:
That's correct. I'd like to put about three or four cars inside the
building.
Mr. Wilshaw:
How are you going to gel those inside the building? Is there
access now or are you going to have to add it?
Mr. Mancini:
If you can see on the east end of the building, that's where we
have double doors. We're just going to put glass to match the
other windows in the building. So it will open up wide enough,
maybe a 10 fool area, to get a car through.
Mr. Wlshaw:
Okay. Is there a particular reason that you're looking at this
building? Obviously, you have a repair business in there now.
Mr. Mancini:
I realty don't have a repair business in there now.
Mr. Wilshaw:
You don't. Okay.
Mr. Mancini:
No. I do not do anything for the public as far as repairs or
anything like that. I dont want lo. I really don't even want to run
a service center out of there. Oval Repair, down the street, is
going to do our repairs. We're pretty much satisfied with that.
We really don't want to compete with any. There's a lot of
service guys. You know, Feinn Tire was in here. We know him.
They're very good people. Oval is a very respectable business.
We're going to keep it like that. We usually use our facility for
only waxing and cleaning of the vehicle.
Mr. Wlshaw:
Yes, just prepping them.
Mr. Mancini:
Yes.
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Mr. Wilshaw:
Okay. Have you looked around at any other buildings along
Plymouth Road? We have several former used car places
along Plymouth Road. I was just wondering if you had looked at
any of those or is there a reason you're looking at this particular
building. Does it work better for you or your business model?
Mr. Mancini:
I've been there for a little over a year now. It's worked fantastic
for me. I think it's a fantastic location. I'm not aware of any of
the other used dealers in Livonia, that there's buildings
available.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Yeah. Okay. There's several along Plymouth Road, more
toward Wayne Road and that area.
Mr. Mancini:
Yes. I worked for New Car Alternatives. I know that building.
Its a pretty big horse to ran.
Mr. Wlshaw:
Right. You're looking for a smaller boutique -type operation
basically?
Mr. Mancini:
I'll tell you what. There's a place in, I believe, its Westland or
Garden City. Its called Lee Wholesale. It's on Middlebell
Road. They've been there for probably 30-40 years. They run a
real clean place. That's really what I'm looking to do. Put 20
cars and really service the people. Mostly, I sell to the kids.
Everyone's kids for their first car or their second car. The way
the economy is going I have a lot of people that are a little bit,
you know, tight. Cant lease cars and need a real good used
car.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Okay. Very good. Thank you.
Ms. Krueger:
I was wondering how you plan to draw attention to your site as a
used car dealership.
Mr. Mancini:
No more than just displaying the cars and probably a little local
advertisement.
Ms. Kruger:
Okay. So no, like, big balloons or anything on lop of your
building?
Mr. Mancini:
I don't think you guys allow that. I think you give us a couple
limes a year, I think Mark menfioned, that we could maybe put
up flags. But no, I'm not looking to do that. I dont really think
there's a need for me to do that.
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Ms. Kruger:
Okay. Thank you.
Ms. Smiley:
I understand you went to the Plymouth Road Development
Authority meeting?
Mr. Mancini:
I did not.
Ms. Smiley:
Oh, you didn't? Well, they wrote a letter and they didn't seem to
approve or disapprove. Well, mostly they said they didn't have
enough information.
Mr. Taormina:
That was pretty much it. Unfortunately, Mr. Mancini was not
able to attend that meeting. They did have some questions
regarding how the landscaping might be improved. I think they
were keying in mostly with that lawn area in the southeast
corner of the property. This is the area where they were
wondering if some additional landscaping could be provided. I
think they also wanted to have a discussion about what to do
here, whether or not that would remain as is or whether or not
there would be some changes in the area in front of the building.
They didn't gel into that. They weren't able to resolve that, so
they did not feel comfortable passing a resolution without some
additional information.
Ms. Smiley:
The reason I ask is because we rely heavily on them because
they made such an investment in Plymouth Road and its
development. Have you had any thoughts about landscaping or
adding to it?
Mr. Mancini:
Yes. Absolutely, I have. I like to maintain my yard perfectly. I
don't know if anybody has been by this site since this has been
proposed, but there used to be three feel weeds in the parking
lot. Three days, every year with my daughter, she's 11 years
old, cleaning that place up. I don't have a lot of money. I'm
doing this on a small budget, but it doesn't take a lot of money
to buy a bar of soap. I do want to put in the landscaping that
they want. I have no problem doing that. I want to comply. I
want to be there. So whatever it takes, I'm going to do. I've
done that from day one. I've been there a year and half and I've
beautified the building, and so has the owner that owns the
building. Since I've been there, it's a lot cleaner, and I'll be
totally honest with you. There's been some cars parked back. I
have had to do some things that I had to do to get me to this
point. There are no cars back there now. I spent the last three
days laking everything and getting it out of there. Like I said,
I've done a lot of things to gel to this point. Its not going to be
run like that. I did work for At Tanski at New Car Alternatives. I
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think everybody here knows the building. He kept a perfect
place and that's what I do loo. I don't have the vacuums and
everything that Al had, but I gel out there with my blowers and
brooms, and eventually I will have those things. I don't want to
really gel any bigger. I don't want to move. I want to slay there
for the rest of my life. So I do want the landscaping. There's
some hedges out front now that are going to be perfectly
manicured. There's some landscaping and there's some trees
growing through the fence line that I'm going to take down in the
Spring. If I would have had more manpower and maybe a little
more money, these things would have already been done just
because I don't like them there myself. But yeah, its a pretty
bare area out there in front, the comer that he's talking about. I
understand that Plymouth Road, they're not going to cut the
lawn or anything. I really don't want them to. They don't trim
and edge the way that I was brought up to trim and edge. I like
to do all that stuff myself. Around the two front trees out front,
I'm planning on planting flowers there. I was going to do that
Iasi year, but yeah, I don't have any problem with working with
somebody in putting in the landscaping that they want. I'm sure
down the road there's going to be a little bit more than they ask
for because that's just the way I am.
Ms. Smiley: Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you, Mr. Chair
Mr. Morrow: Mark, the other area I think you were talking about was that
large square area where the doors are. Were you addressing
that?
Mr. Taormina: The PRDA had some questions. I think they wanted to explore
whether there was an opportunity for additional landscaping in
this area. It depends on how he proposes to utilize that area. If
he's going to be using all three bay doors that face this area,
then there's probably not much opportunity to add landscaping.
But if he can gel by with using only, for example, one, then
maybe there's something we can do. I really don't know. I'd
have to take a closer look at that area. I think the PRDA is
going to focus just along Plymouth Road. They're not
concerned about the use per se. That's really outside of their
jurisdiction. They're more concerned about what can be done in
the areas along Plymouth Road to complement what's already
been done, for example, on the adjacent property and with their
other streetscape improvements, the existing trees. Mr. Mancini
has indicated a willingness to add some landscaping. So I
suspect what the PRDA would like to see is more detail on the
landscape plan when he does go back to them.
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Mr. Morrow:
Okay. I wanted to make sure the PRDA is satisfied.
Mr. Taylor:
What are you doing there now, Mr. Mancini?
Mr. Mancini:
I buy and sell cars on the internet.
Mr. Taylor:
Why is he here now? I don't understand. He's doing it now,
Mark.
Mr. Taormina:
He can use that area as a business office right now. He cannot
use it as a display area.
Mr. Taylor:
Its a waiver use, right?
Mr. Taormina:
Yes. He cannot use it as a showroom or a used car lot. He
may be able to have his business office out of there and sell
vehicles by driving them to other locations or wherever, but he
can't use the lotto display cars.
Mr. Taylor:
Do you have a lot someplace else, Mr. Mancini?
Mr. Mancini:
No, sir.
Mr. Taylor:
So how are you conducting business then?
Mr. Mancini:
I lake the cars home and I sell them at my house.
Mr. Taylor:
So you're illegally selling the cars from your home loo. I've got
to tell you beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I went by there
and Mr. Chairman went by with me about a week ago, and I've
got to tell you. That's no beautiful site, and I know you've got a
problem because the building on the corner that's being used by
a janitorial service doesn't help the looks of your building. Right
across the street, we had an attorney come in and redo the
whole front of the building with brick. It looks very nice. I just
don't visualize in my mind on Plymouth Road a used car lot in
that particular location. I know you want to have a small
business. I laud you for that, for trying to do it, but I just don't
think this is the site to do it in. New Car Alternatives may be too
big for you or something. I don't know. Olson Oldsmobile, we've
got a vacant site down there. We've got too many vacant sites
along Plymouth Road to where we want to, what I'm going to
call, jam in cars to have a showroom, which actually you don't
really have a showroom out on Plymouth Road. You'd have to
go back in the back to see them. I just dont see it happening
there.
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Mr. Mancini:
When you stand in that building, you can see half a mile down
Plymouth Road from that showroom.
Mr. Taylor:
It must be something I didn't see because I don't see how you
can display cars outside unless you're going to stack them up
alongside like that. Its just not a place for a showroom right
now that I feel. I'm just one opinion of it. The Plymouth Road
Development Authority was looking to fix up Plymouth Road, all
along Plymouth Road, and we did it. I'm very proud of Plymouth
Road, the way it looks, but I don't think putting in a used car lot
in that particular area is the right place to go. Rogin down there
is selling cars now, used cars. We've got a closed dealership in
Chrysler, the Chrysler dealership. I just don't think we ought to
add to the problem by giving a waiver use, because if you dont
make it, the waiver use runs with the land, and then we've got
another junk car place, maybe, possibly, doing it. I don't say
you're doing it, but I just don't see it happening there. Thank
you.
Mr. Morrow:
Thank you, Mr. Taylor. Does anyone else have questions of the
petitioner?
Mr. Wilshaw:
Just a quick question. You're talking about the landscaping.
There's sort of odd space in the back of your property between
the vinyl fence, and then I believe there's a chain link fence
where there's landscape that's being maintained. How are you
going to gel back there to maintain that area, that sort of six fool
buffer that you have back there, behind the vinyl fence?
Mr. Mancini:
Behind the vinyl fence?
Mr. Wilshaw:
Yes. You still have property back there. How are you going to
gel back to maintain that properly?
Mr. Mancini:
That's a good question.
Angelo Mauti,
17017 Doris, Livonia, Michigan 48154. I'm the owner of the
building. When we put that vinyl fence up for Avis Rental Car,
we didn't extend it all the way to the end for that reason so we
can access that property from one side. From the road it
appears that it's continuous with Kentucky Fried Chicken. We
lined it up.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Okay. So you can gel a mower or a weed whip or something
back there to maintain it?
Mr. Taylor: Twenty-five years? I've got to tell you, the maintenance of the
property, when we went by there, and of course it's wintertime, I
understand that, but it sure didn't look good. There was a car
parked in the back with a tarp on lop of it. There was a trailer
sitting back there. Well, yeah, I know its gone now, but is it
going to come back? Quesfions that I have. When I go by a
site and look at it, that's what's in my mind is what's going to
happen at that site.
Mr. Mancini: Well, I know you haven't been driving by that site every day and
stopping. I know you're doing it probably because we're
petitioning the City, but that site, I did explain, it had three fool
weeds in the parking lot. It had all kinds of things before I
started working there, and it's not like that anymore. And if you
went there every day like I do, you could see the big change on
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Mr. Mauti:
To be honest with you, we never had to because nothing grows
but those trees that we preserved. There's nothing back there.
We did purposely. I lost like 10 feet from the chain link fence.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Okay.
Mr. Mauti:
But as far as Mr. Taylor's position, I understand, Mr. Taylor, but
I've spent who knows ... if you say you drive by and say it
doesn't look right, that site was a dump. We spent a lot of
money painting, upgrading the electrical, the interior of the
buildings. They're empty. As you know, up and down Plymouth
Road, a lot of vacancies. We're just trying to hold on and pay
taxes. We found a great tenant. He's very clean, and after
being here a year and half, I never had a problem with the guy.
He could tell you what we're working out with him, not even
enough to pay the rent, the taxes.
Mr. Taylor:
Sir, I'm sure you own the property and you want to rent it out
and keep it rented out. I don't have a problem with that, but who
put the wood siding on like that?
Mr. Mauti:
It was built like that.
Mr. Taylor:
It was built that way?
Mr. Mauli:
Oh, yeah. I had it all painted. It cost me all kinds of money last
year, empty.
Mr. Taylor:
How long have you owned the properly?
Mr. Mauli:
Twenty-five years.
Mr. Taylor: Twenty-five years? I've got to tell you, the maintenance of the
property, when we went by there, and of course it's wintertime, I
understand that, but it sure didn't look good. There was a car
parked in the back with a tarp on lop of it. There was a trailer
sitting back there. Well, yeah, I know its gone now, but is it
going to come back? Quesfions that I have. When I go by a
site and look at it, that's what's in my mind is what's going to
happen at that site.
Mr. Mancini: Well, I know you haven't been driving by that site every day and
stopping. I know you're doing it probably because we're
petitioning the City, but that site, I did explain, it had three fool
weeds in the parking lot. It had all kinds of things before I
started working there, and it's not like that anymore. And if you
went there every day like I do, you could see the big change on
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that property. I'm sure there is an Olson Oldsmobile and
Chrysler and there's buildings like that, but those buildings are
loo costly to run a dealership there. I don't know about
Chrysler. I think those went out of business because Chrysler
told them they had to go out of business, but At Tanksi couldn't
run that place anymore because it cost loo much, and he was a
hell of a used car guy. My uncle was Angelo DiPonio. I worked
for him for quite a bit, and I haven't worked for anyone who
doesn't maintain their place perfectly. That's just how I was
raised and that's the way it's going to be over there. I'm into
everything being perfect.
Mr. Taylor: Thankyou.
Mr. Mancini: I invite anybody to come inside my garage and see how I keep
my garage facility. Absolutely perfect.
Mr. Morrow: Any olherquestons ofthe petitioner? Seeing none, I'm going to
go to the audience. I see no one in the audience at this
juncture, so I will close the public hearing and call for a motion.
A second time, do we have a motion?
On a motion by Taylor, seconded by Wilshaw, it was
RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been
held by the City Planning Commission on January 25, 2011, on
Petition 2010-12-02-20 submitted by Richard Mancini
requesting waiver use approval to operate a used auto
dealership (Mancini Motors) with outdoor display of vehicles at
29074 Plymouth Road, located on the north side of Plymouth
Road between Middlebelt Road and Camden Avenue in the
Southwest 1/4 of Section 25, which property is zoned 62, the
Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City
Council that Petition 2010-12-02-20 be denied for the following
reasons:
1. That the petitioner has failed to affirmatively show that the
proposed use is in compliance with all of the special and
general waiver use standards and requirements as set
forth in Sections 11.03 and 19.06 of the Zoning Ordinance
#543;
2. That the City is currently well served with similar uses to
that which is being proposed;
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3. That the petitioner has failed to demonstrate the need in
the area for the type of commercial service proposed to be
operated on the subject site;
4. That the petitioner has not sufficiently demonstrated that
the proposed use would be compatible to and in harmony
with surrounding uses in the area;
5. That the petitioner has failed to adequately demonstrate
that the site has the capacity to accommodate the
proposed use; and
6. That the proposed use is contrary to the goals and
objectives of the Zoning Ordinance which, among other
things, are intended to insure suitability and
appropriateness of uses.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 19.05 of
Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr. Morrow:
Do we have any discussion?
Mr. Wilshaw:
I'll just say that the reason that I'm offering my support is, as I
look
at the denying resolution that Mr. Taylor read, the issue of
the capacity to accommodate the use is one that strikes with me
as being it's a tight site. I'm not sure that it can properly
accommodate the uses being proposed. Thank you.
Mr. Morrow:
Are there any other comments? Seeing none, please call the
roll.
A roll call vole
on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Taylor, Wilshaw, Morrow
NAYES: McDermott, Krueger, Smiley
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Scheel
Mr. Morrow
The motion fails for lack of support. Do we have a motion?
Ms. Smiley:
What do we do when the vole is even?
Mr. Morrow:
We'll have to call for a tabling motion until our seventh member
can join us. Is that appropriate, Mark?
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Mr. Taormina: Whatever is the wish of the Commission. There's nothing that
prevents you from considering another motion.
Ms. Smiley: Okay.
Mr. Wilshaw: In lieu of hearing anybody offering an approving resolution, I will
offer a tabling resolution to our next meeting so that we can
have an opportunity to have all members present.
On a motion by Wilshaw, seconded by Taylor, and unanimously adopted, it was
#01-02-2011 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been
held by the City Planning Commission on January 25, 2011, on
Petition 2010-12-02-20 submitted by Richard Mancini
requesting waiver use approval to operate a used auto
dealership (Mancini Motors) with outdoor display of vehicles at
29074 Plymouth Road, located on the north side of Plymouth
Road between Middlebell Road and Camden Avenue in the
Southwest 1/4 of Section 25, which properly is zoned G2, the
Planning Commission does hereby table this item until all
members of the Commission are present.
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing
resolution adopted. We had to table that because we had a
three -three vote. We could get no additional motions to look at
it a different way, so it's been tabled until our seventh member
returns. She just recently lost her mother and that's why she's
not here this evening. So the staff will be in touch with you to
give you a dale certain when we're sure we can bring you back
and have the full complement.
Mr. Taormina: Mr. Chair, why don't I go ahead and announce that dale now
because there will not be further notice sent out to the residents
or anybody who is following this and might be interested. We
would re -hear this item on the 8th of February. It will be back for
a study session next week, February 1, and then the voting
meeting would take place on Tuesday, February 8, in these
chambers.
Mr. Morrow: Time would be 7:00 p.m. as usual. So you have those dates.
Okay, thank you.
Mr. Taylor: What we have before us, Mark, is a Semaan rezoning on
February 15. What is that? I mean do we have meetings
before that?
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Mr. Taormina:
Yes, we do. We have a meeting next week. I have not talked to
Scott to find out what else is on the agenda, but he would have
to wail untl March to have this item heard otherwise.
Mr. Taylor:
So we have a study meeting next week?
Mr. Taormina:
Why don't I verify this to make sure that Ms. Scheel is going to
be at the meeting, because it really doesn't make sense if she's
not here. Unless there is an announcement to the contrary, we
would have the meeting on February 8.
Mr. Morrow:
And you will advise the petitioner?
Mr. Taormina:
Yes. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that she could be out for an
extended period. We're nolsure.
Mr. Morrow:
Right. We're not sure.
Mr. Taylor:
If I may, Mr. Chairman? To the petitioner, it would be a good
idea for you to gel a landscape plan of what you'd like to do so
that we could see that. The PRDA had questions about that. I
had questions about it. You claim there's more landscaping
than I've ever seen there. I would suggest that you put together
a landscape plan that we can visualize and see what you're
going to do to the building.
Mr. Mancini:
Is there someone on the PRDA that I can gel in touch with so I
know what they'd like to see?
Mr. Taormina:
Yes, you should call me.
Mr. Mancini:
Okay. Thank you.
ITEM #3 APPROVAL OF MINUTES 3991" Special Meeting
Ms. Smiley, Acting Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Approval
of the Minutes of the 3991 Special Meeting held on October 5,
2010.
On a motion by Wilshaw, seconded by McDermott, and adopted, it was
#01-03-2011 RESOLVED, that the Minutes of 3991 Special Meeting held by
the Planning Commission on October 5, 2010, are hereby
approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
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AYES:
Wilshaw, McDermott, Morrow
NAYS:
None
ABSENT:
Scheel
ABSTAIN:
Krueger, Taylor
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carded and the foregoing
resolution adopted.
ITEM #4 APPROVAL OF MINUTES 1,003r° Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting
Ms. Smiley, Acting Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Approval
of the Minutes of the 1,003'" Public Hearings and Regular
Meeting held on December 14, 2010.
On a motion by McDermott, seconded by Smiley, and unanimously adopted, 0
was
#01-04-2011 RESOLVED, that the Minutes of 1,003rtl Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting held by the Planning Commission on
December 14, 2010, are hereby approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following
AYES: McDermott, Smiley, Krueger, Wilshaw, Taylor,
Morrow
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Scheel
ABSTAIN: None
Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carded and the foregoing
resolution adopted.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 1,004'" Public
Hearings and Regular Meeting held on January 25, 2011, was adjourned at 8:24
p.m.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
Carol A. Smiley, Acting Secretary
ATTEST:
R. Lee Morrow, Chairman