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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 2012-07-10MINUTES OF THE 402n" SPECIAL REGULAR MEETING HELD BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia held its 402otl Special Regular Meeting in the Livonia City Hall, 33000 Civic Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Lee Morrow, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Members present: Scott P. Bahr R. Lee Morrow Lynda L. Scheel Carol A. Smiley Gerald Taylor Ian Wilshaw Members absent: Ashley V. Krueger Mr. Scott Miller, Planner IV, was also present. ITEM #1 PETITION 2012-06-08-05 NICHOLAS PLAZA Ms. Scheel, Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda, Petition 2012-06- 08-05 submitted by Nick Shango requesting approval of revised plans required by Section 18.58 of the Zoning Ordinance in connection with a proposal to redevelop the Nicholas Plaza shopping center at 13820-13840 Merriman Road and 31281 SchoolcraR Road, located on the southeast corner of SchoolcraR Road and Merriman Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 26. Mr. Miller: Al the June 26 Regular Meeting, the Planning Commission unanimously approved renovations to Nicholas Plaza. Originally, the Petitioner requested four pump islands oriented parallel to the store. The Planning Commission ultimately approved three pump islands, requiring the elimination of the easterly most pump island and a corresponding reduction in the length of the canopy. The Petitioner is asking the Planning Commission to consider an alternate plan that would keep four pump islands byturning the pumps perpendicular to the store. Mr. Morrow: So he is only changing the position of the pumps. Ms. Smiley: Its a reposition offour pumps. I thoughtwe approved three. Mr. Miller: That is correct. You did approve a site plan with the condition that the easterly most pump island be removed, leaving three pump islands. July 10, 2012 25238 Nick Shango, 27033 Van Dyke, Warren, Michigan 48093. You wanted me to create more space over here. So I went back to my Dad and my brother ... Mr. Morrow: Mr. Shango, if you could wait a minute. Are there any other questions from the Commission? Mr. Taylor: Scott, is there enough room for a car to pull in and turn around and gel out of there? I guess it says 23 feel. A car is about 21 feel long. That's going to be pretty tight tum, isn't it? Mr. Miller: Yes, it could be. One gas station that comes to mind with a similar layout like this is the BP gas station at Five Mile and Merriman. Mr. Taylor: Thank you. Mr. Bahr: How far is the separation of the landscaping along SchoolcraR Road from the farthest eastern gas pump? It says 78 feet right now. How does that compare to what the third pump was before? Mr. Miller: Are you asking about the distance of the third pump on the previously approved plan to the landscape area across the parking lot? Mr. Bahr: From there to the grass. What is that distance? Mr. Miller: I would say it's about 76 feet. That's adding the 33 feet between pumps plus the 43 feel to the landscape area. Mr. Bahr: Is the footprint of the four pumps essentially fitting within the footprint of the three pumps? Mr. Miller: Approximately. If you look at the previously approved site plan, you can see the distance from the eastern edge of the building to the third pump. Mr. Bahr: So are we talking a couple feet? Mr. Miller: The distance between the eastern edge of the fourth pump on the previously approved plan and the fourth pump on this new plan is about 22 feel. Mr. Bahr: I'm sorry. I'm not sure I understand that. July 10, 2012 25239 Mr. Miller: The awning on the previously approved plan was out to here and the new plan shows the awning here. There's a 22 fool difference. Mr. Bahr: Its 22 feet less. Mr. Miller. Yes Mr. Taylor: With three pumps, you're going to have a shorter awning. Right? Mr. Miller: Yes. Mr. Morrow: If there are no other questions, we'll go to the petitioner. Mr. Shango: Here's what happened. We need E85 and diesel. So that's what we need the fourth pump island for. Mr. Taylor: The stations I go to have diesel and gas in the same pump. Mr. Shango: For bigger trucks, we keep them at the ends. The pump in front will be a combo one. The one on the end would be for just E85. It needs its own separate pump. These would be regular, this one would be a combination of diesel and gas, and this one would just be E85 by itself. So what I did was, you guys wanted room, so I compressed the pump area. I'm about five feel over what it would have been if I took the fourth pump out by turning them perpendicular. I own two stations that are like that. I've compressed the area in about 26 feel. I'm just a few feet short in either direction. From the old island location to here is 21 feel. I'm about four or five feel shorter than what I have currently, but this allows better traffic flow. On the old plan, if these guys are full and you come in, it's hard to maneuver because they're parked here. My brother doesn't like this layout. He says it could create a traffic jam, whereas with this new plan's layout, they can come in and they filler through. They can make that radius with no problem. They have drive- thms at about 9 feel and they can make a turn in there. You're giving them both alleys to turn around and maneuver, and you still get room in between loo. When you come in, you can just pull in. Its easy. If you come this way, you can pull in. Its easy. But on the previous plan, you come in and this is full, its like where do you go? Then you're driving in circles. You know what I'm saying. If you come in and this guy is full and this guy is full, where do you go? You loop, and where? This plan is more practical. Again, I have about 24 - 25 feel around my pumps at my other stations. I'm giving you almost that. I'm July 10, 2012 25240 giving you 23 feet on this end. And that's to say that the island is seven feel. I can make the island area smaller. These little islands that the columns sit on, I can get away with four or five feel, then I can gain two more feel. I shortened the awning. I can make it even shorter. I just wanted to cover the cars. That's all I changed. Mr. Taylor: When I asked you at our meeting if you could live with three pumps, you said, oh yeah, because we don't make a lot of money off gas. Now, I've got a problem with the fad that you're coming back with four pumps. If you want to put three pumps in the way these are, I guess you can do that. If you think the traffic pattern is better, but I think you're all right with three pumps. Not everybody is going to come to the Dunkin' Donuts and want to gel gas and then donuts. I see you having a parking problem with Dunkin' Donuts itself because you don't have a drive-thru and people are going to pull in and park and they're going to end up parking along the side of the building whether you have parking there or not. You're going to have a problem. That's what I see with the cars facing the building. I know you've got no parking along there with the way it is on the plan, but I think you're going to have a problem because everybody, like I say, is not going to get gas and a couple donuts. I don't think ifs going to work that way. That's just my opinion. Mr. Bahr: Turning the pumps 90 degrees, I think makes a lot of sense considering the fad that a lot of people are going to be getting onto 96 eastbound. The way you had it before, that was the concern I had with people coming back and trying to keep this driveway, because with the eastern most driveway, they can't gel onto 96. Actually, that makes a lot of sense. I share Commissioner Taylor's concerns about the Dunkin' Donuts parking. You said big trucks need diesel? Mr. Shango: Guys that have bigger trucks, we like to give them some comfort in here. This pump is for E85. Since it's not primary, we like to put it on the end, and that takes it own tank. You're talking anywhere from $300,000 to $400,000 for underground. To just put in three pumps, it's not worth it for three pumps. All our stations have five to seven islands. I dont own the gas stations. I'm just the designer for my Dad, but I do run the Dunkin' Donuts. I have a little bit of gas station experience, but they want the fourth pump just for E85 and for diesel. It will be a combo but it's mainly for E85. That's pretty much their reasons. They are saying three for regular, one for E85. If you limit it to three pumps, then you're giving two pumps for regular, which is Mr. Shango: I look your thoughts. I have about 80 feet in here. I thought your concern was getting stuck in here, making a turnaround, and coming back out. If I cul that out, then what do I do with the extra space? I thought the fourth pump wouldn't affect anything because there's more than enough room here now. If I lake that out, I'm saving another 15 feel. People will park here just to go in, not always for gas. If I take the pump out, what are we doing with this space now? You'll still have the same issue of people parking here, whether I have one pump or three or four, they still might do that anyways. Maybe we can put up a sign, 'you'll be ticketed and towed" We'll make signs and I'll make sure the July 10, 2012 25241 not enough, and then one for E85. That's their concern. That's the only reason why. Mr. Wilshaw: What is prompting you to want E85? Mr. Shango: We carry it. Its a convenience. The price of gas is $4.00. Mr. Wilshaw: Its closer to $3.00 and going down. E85 wouldn't make any sense when gas prices are going down because no one buys it. Mr. Shango: How about a few months ago? It was $4.00. You're only talking aboulnow. Mr. Wilshaw: This is supposed to be the time when it's peaking, and it's going down. There are probably three stations in Livonia total that have E85. I've never seen anybody using the pump. You can tell me what the volume of sales for E85 is from your other stations, but its minimal. I don't see the value in you spending the money to put an extra lank in just to handle it. I can understand the diesel, but you're not going to gel big trucks. Semi's don't gel diesel at a retail gas station. They go to some Quick Fuel or something like that. But you have Volkswagens with diesel engines, and regular cars with diesel engines. So I can understand offering diesel at one of your pumps, but you can use duel nozzle pumps. I think three pumps work. The only reason for the fourth pump is E85. I don't think it's going to get a lot of use anyway based on the current sales figures. I like the new orientation. I do think it makes a little more sense. However, I do agree with Mr. Taylor that it's likely you're going to gel people lining up along the curb and then someone who wants to pull out won't be able to make that tum if there's a car in front of him. He'll have to back out toward the north driveway. I like the Speedway up at Seven Mile and Newburgh. That has pumps that face the building. Of course, they have enough room. Mr. Shango: I look your thoughts. I have about 80 feet in here. I thought your concern was getting stuck in here, making a turnaround, and coming back out. If I cul that out, then what do I do with the extra space? I thought the fourth pump wouldn't affect anything because there's more than enough room here now. If I lake that out, I'm saving another 15 feel. People will park here just to go in, not always for gas. If I take the pump out, what are we doing with this space now? You'll still have the same issue of people parking here, whether I have one pump or three or four, they still might do that anyways. Maybe we can put up a sign, 'you'll be ticketed and towed" We'll make signs and I'll make sure the July 10, 2012 25242 police enforce it and people will slop doing it. I just finished one of my properties in Sterling Heights. A lot of trucks park right in the parking lot and I put up a sign, no parking, no nothing or you'll be ticketed, and they kept coming. The police came and started giving them tickets and they slopped doing it. So we had a big problem. We had big semi's, four or five of them, just blocking the parking lot like in this area. I got rid of them. Believe me, I don't want anybody parking here anyways. I want it open. Mr. Morrow: How important is the E85 pump? Mr. Shango: Its important to them. With all due respect, it's very important to them. They're really pushing for it. It's not just the E85. It's just to have that extra pump so they have the option. Usually, what they do is, if it doesn t do well, you can always empty it and fill it in with something else. I can put regular in it. I can put diesel. Whatever we want to do. Mr. Morrow: You primarily want the parking? Mr. Shango: You're 100 percent right. It doesn't sell a lot, but its an extra convenience. That's what we're trying to do. Mr. Morrow: The stations I go to, I don't see the E85. I've seen one sign on Wixom Road. Mr. Shango: When it comes to stations, we do them differently. We build them two stories and tall. We have more cash flow than the average guy who will open up a gas station. They'll open a gas station and they'll be short 15 to 18 feet. Our gas stations are more than 35 feel high and brick and stone. We make them nice. We have the budget for it. I think people don't do it because it's an extra lank; it's an extra underground; it costs. It cost money. Mainly forme, from my perspective, its parking. Mr. Morrow: What ifyou putfree air outthere? Mr. Shango: Free air? Mr. Wilshaw: If you were to go to three pumps, shift them this way, could you have a couple parallel parking spaces right here along this curb line. Mr. Morrow: You put in the free air and pull up there and park next to it. Mr. Wilshaw: Someone is going to want to be close to the donut shop. July 10, 2012 25243 Mr. Bahr: What about all this space over here if you want parking spots? Can parking spots be added along there if there's no pump here? And this is just another question. As I recall, one of the other Commissioners expressed it. Traffic flow is one of the concerns. Another reason is just the fad that the fourth pump can't be seen within the store from a security standpoint. That was actually, as I recall, the first concern that was raised. I just wanted to make sure we remembered that. But my original question, is there any reason parking spaces couldn't be added along the north boundary? Mr. Shango: I could, but I was trying to keep it as spacious as possible. I'm sure I could play with it some more. I could squeeze them in. I agree with everything you're saying. I just want everyone to know that I have this set up in two of my stations exactly, plus or minus three or four feel. This wouldn't be a problem because even when they do park, customers squeeze through. I don't want them to. We have to keep an eye on that and enforce it. Its up to you guys. They really liked the fourth pump. But what do you think would win the stronger case when we go to Council? Mr. Morrow: Its my opinion, but it doesn't sound like you're gefling a lot of support for the fourth pump. The canopy isn't an issue. Everything looks nice except the number of pumps. We'll have to look at what the Commission wants to do. We can send this forward with an approval of three pumps and then you can make your case to the City Council to have the fourth pump added back in. Mr. Shango: Do you think if I throw in parking it would help them to be more optimistic? Mr. Morrow: Its hard for us to project what they will do. Mr. Shango: Because I wouldn't mind to sacrifice this if they give me a green light on the project. Mr. Taylor: I think you're going to find the same thing at the Council level as you're finding here. The fact is, you're kind of squeezing things in here and the first statement was, you can't gel a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have gas. And we said, okay. Although one person said at the Mayors meefing that he's built them before without it, but that's another story. Al any rale, we asked you then, if you don't make that much money on gas, to put three pumps in and make it not so crowded so traffic can move July 10, 2012 25244 around. I think probably parking out at the comer wouldn't be a bad idea. I think the Council is going to think the same way. I'm just guessing. The Dunkin' Donuts doesn't have a drive lhru and you dont need, really, four pumps. If you don't make big money on the gas, and people are going to be pulling in for Dunkin' Donuts, and not necessarily getting gas, then you're not going to have any place for them to park. Mr. Shango: Dunkin's is more of a side business. The main thing is my convenience store. Dunkin's is just mornings, after 11:00 a.m., you're talking maybe $200 - $300 of business the rest of the day. That guy who spoke, he said that when I mel him the first time. He's wrong. Ten years ago, they were doing that. Now, they've closed 15, 20 stores in the market. The only reason why they're letting me go without a drive thru, I want a full franchise. I have five stores already. We've got the pumps. It just won't survive if it's a standalone without a drive lhm. Tim Horton are opening up left and right and none of them are not drive-lhms. They're all drive-thms. Mr. Taylor: One time you wanted to put a Dunkin' Donuts in that vacant building. Mr. Shango: Yes, but it was a drive-thru though. What I'm saying, his comments, I don't agree with them because I'm not going stand here and lie to you. Mr. Taylor: You may be right on that, but what I'm getting at is, why didn't you keep the liquor store where it is and move the Dunkin' Donuts in the middle of the building instead of where its at now? Why didn't you leave the liquor store out in front like it is now and then move the Dunkin' Donuts in the middle? Mr. Shango: That little spot is 800 square feel. Again, you'll have the same problem and here's why. If you walk into a store, we have two combination Dunkin' and gas station. You walk into there as a consumer, one of them has a wall. They have no idea there's another door on the other side. And Dunkin' Donuts is an impulse buy at this point. You're walking in to gel your pop or cigarettes or whatever they want, and you happen to see a donut shop and it's a quick impulse buy. The way I set it up, they're flush against each other. Both counters are right next to each other. Whereas in other setups, I see failure. If you separate them with a wall, all of a sudden it's not so convenient anymore. You must get out of this building and go through this building. You want to make it quick and easy for them. Or they'll come and order a coffee, go pay for their gas, get their July 10, 2012 25245 cigarettes and come back and get their sandwich or whatever. I don't have room to let them sit. I only have two or three seals in there. You've got to have a table or two. In my other gas station stores, I have three standalones, I've got 30, 40 seals. Purposely, I don't keep a TV in there. I don't keep it cozy. I just want them to gel out because I don't have parking and I don't have room. So that's how this works. Mr. Morrow: This project has come a long way since we first saw it. I think you've done a very fine job. The only stumbling block is how the Commission feels about four islands versus three. Ms. Smiley: If he stays with the three and just turns them, it can go on as we've already recommended. Right? Mr. Miller: Yes. Mr. Morrow: Or maybe the condition would say just drop the fourth pump. Ms. Smiley: I guess that's what I'm saying. To expedite this, to gel it to Council and gel it rolling, if he slays at three pumps, even though he turned them, that would be the fastest way to go. Mr. Morrow: He's already got approval for that as long as his plan matches the three pumps. Mr. Shango: Lel me ask you, what would be your greatest concern - the flow of traffic or parking? Because if you want to go flow of traffic, I'd keep them like this. If you'd like to add parking, then as you mentioned loo, we can throw some in there. What would you like? What do you think would be my best opportunity because I have to make a good case here. Mr. Bahr: My comment about the parking was really just to help you out if you had to slay with three pumps. I don't think adding parking is going to help your case. That's not an issue. I was just trying to help you out. I think the number one issue is the Chief of Police's concern, the security concern about having the fourth pump out there out of the sight line. That was the number one concern. The traffic is only secondary to that. I think you've greatly improved, frankly, the traffic concern by turning the pumps. So the primary concern at this point is just the security of having that fourth pump out of the line of sight. Mr. Shango: Even though each pump has cameras, because we have that in a couple stations? July 10, 2012 25246 Mr. Bahr: I'll be honest with you. I'm trusting the Chief of Police. You obviously know what you're doing. I understand your business concerns. What you're saying make sense. But that was a concern that was expressed to us and it carries a lot of weight with me. Mr. Shango: How about if I kept this island and we can use it only as parking, because we don't have anything in front. They can park a car here. I'll just keep a column here, keep an eye on them, but ... Mr. Morrow: Where are you going to have the free air? Mr. Shango: Free air I'll have off to the side. I wouldn't want it occupying anything, clogging up anything in the front. I think I'll have free air right here. They'll pull up to a spot, isolate them, gel them out of the way. Because I know they're going to tell me, which I agree loo, the thing that I want to really stress is that whoever comes to Dunkin' Donuts is not silting down. If they're not sitting down, I don't need a parking spot for them. I need somewhere for them to park for a minute and gel them out of there. These will never get used, ever, ever, ever. Just in the morning for the restaurant these will gel used. Afternoon, it's going to be a desert in there. Mr. Morrow: Scott, is there any reason why he couldn't stripe two or three parking spots in place of that pump? Mr. Miller: I've never seen it done that way, but I guess he could do it as long as he met the parking and aisle widths. He shows 22 feel aisleways around the pumps. Mr. Bahr: You don't normally see something like that. Ms. Scheel: He's got two parking spots on the far side of the building. Mr.Shango: Yes. Ms. Scheel: And one handicap. Mr.Shango: One handicap, yes. Ms. Scheel: Okay. Then you'll add two spaces with the island you're taking away. Mr. Shango: Yeah. I could ft three here. It's not impossible. Mr. Taylor: So you're talking about eliminating one of the pumps? July 10, 2012 25247 Mr. Shango: I wouldn't like to, but I want to do what you guys want me to do. I wouldn't like to, to be honest with you. Mr. Taylor: Well, we already told you what we want you to do. Mr. Morrow: We did that last week, but you can always try to change it al the Council level. Mr. Shango: I want to go there with your full support. Like last week, everybody supported me. I want to go there with your approval. That will help me present a better case because this is going to be hard enough to sell as it is, but what they don't understand, this is very hard for us. Economy tanked on 30 percent less business. I have to do something here. I tried the drive-thm, they shot me down. I came again with the drive-thm, they shot me down. Mr. Morrow: Your site was very tenuous. Mr. Shango: But sometimes you've got to take a chance. You have to lake a chance and you've got to go with it. Mr. Morrow: I think you'll have a functional station here. If there's nothing else to add, I think you'll just have to see what the Commission wants to do. Mr. Taylor: Where does it go from here? If we decide to do something else with the plan, we will need to have it back on our next Tuesday agenda? Mr. Miller: No, this is a Special Meeting. You can lake final action tonight. Mr. Morrow: Our action is final tonight. Like we did last time, we approved that plan less one pump island. Its the same thing as last week. Mr. Taylor: I don't have any problem whether you turn them the way you've got them now or the other way, but I would just as soon see only three pumps. Mr. Morrow: That was our position last week. We're revisiting it tonight. We didn't know anything about the E85 and the diesel and that kind of sluff. So if there's nothing more to add, I will close the meeting and ask fora motion. July 10, 2012 25248 Mr. Shango: So the next step is we're going to Council to ask for site plan approval, right? Mr. Morrow: We're going to see what the Commission wants to do relative to this new plan, and based on what we decide tonight, it will then go forward to the Council. Mr. Shango: I'm going to slick with you guys. I've got to do something here. Mr. Morrow: Right now, I'm asking for a motion. Ms. Smiley: My question is, what kind of motion Mr. Morrow: Based on the resolution we had Iasi week, and Scott you can guide me on this, is that we keep the plan we had last week only instead of eliminating the fourth pump, make the pump islands vertical to the building as opposed to horizontal. Mr. Miller: Approval tonight would be for the revised site plan dated July 6, with the elimination of one of the pump islands. Ms. Scheel: Are you saying this plan with three pumps? Mr. Morrow: Just like we did last week, with this plan and all the other conditions. Mr. Miller: Yes. Mr. Morrow: That's an option that we have. It depends on what the Commission wants to do. Mr. Bahr: I'd be willing to make a resolution on this plan and three pumps. Is that what we're saying? The thing we resolved last time, plus whatever condition. Mr. Miller: You can approve this new plan, minus one pump, and the other condition would basically read "all the other conditions in Resolution #06-59-2012 would stay in effect." Ms. Scheel: Scott, are you making that motion? Mr. Bahr: Yes. I will make the motion that we accept this plan as revised with the exception of eliminating the fourth pump island. On a motion by Bahr, seconded by Taylor, and unanimously adopted, it was July 10, 2012 25249 #07-61-2012 RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 2012-06-08-05 submitted by Nick Shango requesting approval of revised plans required by Section 18.58 of the Zoning Ordinance in connection with a proposal to redevelop the Nicholas Plaza shopping center at 13820-13840 Merriman Road and 31281 SchoolcraR Road, located on the southeast corner of SchoolcraR Road and Merriman Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 26,.be approved subject to the following conditions: 1. That the Site Plan marked C-1 dated July 6, 2012, as revised, prepared by Shango Development, is hereby approved, subject to the removal of the easterly most pump island and a corresponding reduction in the length of the canopy; and 2. That all other conditions imposed by Planning Commission Resolution #06-59-2012, which granted approval to renovate the Nicholas Plaza shopping center by adding gas pumps and a carry -out restaurant (Dunkin' Donuts), shall remain in effect to the extent that they are not in conflict with the foregoing condition. Mr. Morrow: Have you sent the plan to the City Council the other way? Mr. Miller: Yes, we did. We sent the plan you approved last week because it had to be submitted to gel on Council's next study meeting. Mr. Morrow: With the four pumps? Mr. Miller: The condition approving the site plan specified only three pumps. Mr. Morrow: So this will have a different dale? Mr. Miller: Yes. Mr. Morrow: And with the same condition that they eliminate the fourth pump. Mr. Taylor: It will be a revised Site Plan. Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution. Ms. Scheel: When this goes before Council, it goes before the Study session, correct? July 10, 2012 25250 Mr. Miller: Right. Ms. Scheel: They have the first plan that we submitted. Now we are going to send a revised site plan. There's a good chance he's going to gelquesfioned why there are two plans. Correct? Mr. Miller: Right. Since you approved the revised plan here tonight, that is the one that should be presented to Council because the most recent resolution states that the Commission approved this plan with all the other conditions of the original resolution. Mr. Morrow: This is our recommendation, but you can appeal it to the Council and you can make your case with them. Mr. Shango: That's great. I appreciate it. Mr. Bahr: I'll be honest with you. You make a strong case. I totally see where you're coming from. It's the Chief of Police concern that we're concerned with. Inherently, we trust of Chief of Police. Mr. Shango: I've got to tell you. I appreciate you guys and your time. You guys have been very nice to me. I appreciate it. Whether they okay it or not, you've been very kind to me. You've heard me out and we're just trying to make a living. That's all. Mr. Morrow: You're making an investment. Mr. Shango: A lot of people wont understand. I'm a businessman. I work 15 hours a day. I never do something for no reason. When you operate a lot of businesses, you always add or minus on your next one. I have 12 businesses. Four of them are gas stations. I'm so efficient with my Dunkin' layout, I mean I've gone from big to smaller to smaller to smaller. And a gas station, which way works? Straight, parallel? How much room do you need and how do you present it. And its funny. You can walk into a store and you can layout your shelves. If you have them perpendicular or horizontal or how tall or how short, affects your sales. It's what's visible; it's what's convenient. Mr. Morrow: You have a good petition. You've come a long way with that. When we met the last time, we thought we settled on three pumps, and we just revisited it again. We wish you all the success in the world. Mr. Shango: Thankyou. July 10, 2012 25251 ITEM #2 ELECTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION OFFICERS Ms. Scheel, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, the election of Planning Commission officers for the period commencing July, 2012 to June, 2013. Nominations for Chairperson were taken from the floor. Ian Wilshaw nominated Lee Morrow and Joe Taylor seconded the nomination. Nominations for Chairperson were closed. On a motion by Wilshaw, seconded by Taylor, and unanimously adopted, it was #07-62-2012 RESOLVED, that in accordance with the provisions of Section 1 of Article II of the Planning Commission Rules of Procedure, the following officer is hereby elected to the Planning Commission for the period commencing July, 2012 to June, 2013. Chairman: R. Lee Morrow A roll call vole on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Wilshaw, Taylor, Bahr, Smiley, Scheel, Morrow NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Krueger It was declared that the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. Nominations were taken for Vice Chairperson. Carol Smiley nominated Ian Wilshaw and Gerald Taylor seconded the nomination. The nominations for Vice Chairperson were closed. On a motion by Smiley, seconded by Taylor, and unanimously adopted, it was #07-63-2012 RESOLVED, that in accordance with the provisions of Section 1 of Article 11 of the Planning Commission Rules of Procedure, the following officer is hereby elected to the Planning Commission for the period commencing July, 2012 to June, 2013. Vice Chairman: Ian Wilshaw A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following AYES: Smiley, Taylor, Bahr, Wilshaw, Scheel, Morrow NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Krueger July 10, 2012 25252 It was declared that the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted Nominations were taken for Secretary. Joe Taylor nominated Lynda Scheel and Lee Morrow seconded the nomination. The nominations for Secretary were closed. On a motion by Taylor, seconded by Morrow, and unanimously adopted, it was #07-64-2012 RESOLVED, that in accordance with the provisions of Section 1 of Article 11 of the Planning Commission Rules of Procedure, the following officer is hereby elected to the Planning Commission for the period commencing July, 2011 to June, 2012. Secretary: Lynda Scheel A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Taylor, Morrow, Bahr, Smiley, Wilshaw, Scheel NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Krueger It was declared that the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 402otl Special Regular Meeting held on July 10, 2012, was adjourned at 7:49 p.m. ATTEST: R. Lee Morrow, Chairman CITY PLANNING COMMISSION Lynda L. Scheel, Secretary