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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPUBLIC HEARING - 2018-01-22 - REZONING - SOUTHWEST HOUSING SOLUTIONS CITY OF LIVONIA PUBLIC HEARING Minutes of Meeting Held on Monday, January 22, 2018 ______________________________________________________________________ A Public Hearing of the Council of the City of Livonia was held at the City Hall Auditorium on Monday, January 22, 2018. MEMBERS PRESENT: Laura Toy, President Jim Jolly, Vice President Scott Bahr Brandon Kritzman Kathleen McIntyre Brian Meakin Cathy K. White MEMBERS ABSENT: None OTHERS PRESENT: Scott Miller, Planner Eric Goldstein, Assistant City Attorney Bonnie J. Murphy, CER-2300, Certified Electronic Recorder The Public Hearing was called to order at 7:09 p.m. with President Laura Toy presiding. This is a Public Hearing relative to a request for a change of zoning within the City of Livonia on the following matter: Petition 2017-10-01-06, submitted by Southwest Housing Solutions, to rezone the property located on the south side of Eight Mile Road, between Brentwood Avenue and Middlebelt Road (29023 Eight Mile Road) in the Northwest ¼ of Section 1, from C-1 (Local Business) to OS (Office Services). The City Clerk has mailed a notice to those persons in the area affected by the proposed changes, and all other requirements of Ordinance No. 543, the Zoning Ordinance, have been fulfilled. The public hearing is now open for comments. There were nineteen people in the audience. Please state your clearly your name and address before making your comments. Toy: Mr. Miller? Miller: Thank you. The subject property measures 160 feet in width by approximately 168 feet in depth. Currently the property is vacant and there are two adjoining parcels to the east which are all owned in common. The other two parcels are zoned OS (Office Services), thus if the zoning change is successful, then all three parcels would be zoned OS. Together all three parcels contain roughly 2 acres. The Petitioner 2 has requested the zoning in anticipation of developing the subject site to include a three-story senior independent housing facility, a proposed senior apartment complex which will consist of approximately 50 to 55 one and two-bedroom units and the Planning Commission recommended approval of this petition. That’s it. Toy: Thank you. Any questions for Mr. Miller from Council? Meakin: Madam Chair? Toy: Yes. Meakin: Through the Chair to Scott, how does this meet with our Future Land Use Plan? Miller: The Future Land Use Plan showed it as General Commercial, so it doesn’t follow the Future Land Use. It’s showing as Commercial to the west and then Office, it’s right between the Office and Commercial. Meakin: Thank you. Toy: If I may, Mr. Miller, what is to the side of that, help me understand like where the Mobil Station is and the strip center there? Miller: Yes. If you look at this, this is the gas station, this is a plaza, this is an office building here, the OS, the cemetery is the AG off to the east and then you have RUF, Rural Urban Farm houses to the south. Toy: So that’s the site that they’re proposing, the RUF site, right? Miller: No. They’re proposing the C-1 right here, across there. Toy: Oh, the C-1, okay, thank you. Jolly: Madam Chair? Toy: Sure. Vice President Jolly. Jolly: Mr. Miller, if I understand your answer to the question that Mr. Meakin posed, is that answer likely to change as we look at a new Master Plan? Miller: I mean if you did rezone this to OS, then we’d look at the Master Plan and probably change that to office. Jolly: What the FLUP sets forth? 3 Miller: Yes, we usually follow the zoning. Jolly: Thank you. Toy: And if I may, the hot pink, if you will, or violet, or whatever color that is to the east of that, what is that area again? Miller: This is a cemetery. Toy: Right. But those two small parcels? Miller: These are just vacant parcels that are all owned in common with this parcel. Toy: So those three would be of significance? Miller: Right. Toy: Do we have any other senior housing within that area, off of Middlebelt I think, don’t we? There’s a piece, there’s one over that way on the east side of the street there. Miller: I think south. Toy: Okay, thank you very much. Is the Petitioner here? Gazrys: Yes. Toy: Sir, if you would approach the podium and state your name and address for the record, please. Gazrys: Yes. My name is Steve Gazryz, I work for Southwest Housing Solutions. th My address is 1920 25 Street, Detroit, Michigan. Toy: Can you give us a little clue, can you explain about the 50 to 55 units and the three-story high rise, has that changed at this point? Gazrys: That hasn’t changed, no, it hasn’t. Toy: So, do you want to elaborate a little bit on that? Gazrys: Sure. Southwest Housing, we’re an affordable housing provider and we put this property under contract and came to the City to see what we need to put affordable housing for seniors and in talking and conducting market studies there’s a significant need for affordable housing within the City of 4 Livonia. So we met with the Planning folks and brought this to the Planning Commission for a first review as it would require a zoning change for those three parcels. Currently two of them are allowed under OS and we’d need that third Commercial to be rezoned, so that’s what we’re respectfully requesting to do. Toy: Have you done any developments in the City at this point? Gazrys: This is our first development in Livonia. Jolly: Madam Chair. Toy: Vice President Jolly. Jolly: Sir, you mentioned that this is the business that you’re in? Gazrys: Yes. Jolly: Can you provide us with a list of addresses of other properties that are local so that we may inspect those to see the standards within which they’re kept up and make sure they’re functioning and in good condition? Gazrys: Sure. We do affordable housing in Detroit and surrounding suburbs. Jolly: Well, I don’t care where it’s at but we need to see what the standard is and how you keep it up. Gazrys: Sure. We can actually provide that. Jolly: Thank you. Bahr: Madam Chair. Toy: Sure. Councilmember Bahr has a question. Bahr: Can you educate me, I’ve never dealt with these things before, can you educate me on what exactly, when you say affordable housing, what all that entails? Gazrys: Affordable housing is the standard, what we do is apply to the State for Affordable Housing Acts Credits and we sell those credits for equity and that equity is then used to keep the rents affordable. So you’ve got a whole spectrum of senior housing projects, a lot of these similar senior housing projects may charge you $3,500 a month fees or more, we would target folks at area median incomes to make them affordable. 5 Bahr: So what would be the price range for one of these units? Gazrys: Price range, well, it depends. The rent is based on your income so it’s affordable and there’s certain, what we have is different area median incomes, there’s 30, 40, 50, 60, and then within that depending how much money your household makes, that’s how much your rent would be. Bahr: So is there a maximum income that would apply to these? Gazrys: Yes, 60% would be the maximum. Bahr: 60% area median income? Gazrys: Yes. Bahr: Okay, thanks. Meakin: Madam Chair. Toy: Councilmember Meakin. Meakin: Thank you, Madam President. Sir, do you plan on operating this business as well or are you just going to build it? Gazrys: No, we’re going to build and operate and manage. We operate and manage all of our own, we have about 750 units that we manage that we’ve developed. Meakin: There were comments about where your other communities are, I’d like to take at those properties as well. Thank you, Madam President. Toy: Sir, do you work with MSHDA then? Gazrys: Yes. Toy: And how long have you worked with MSHDA? Gazrys: We’ve been working with MSHDA since the 1980s. Toy: Tell me a little bit about MSHDA and how they relate to you. Gazrys: MSHDA is the Michigan State Housing Development Authority that provides financing for affordable housing so it would be the methodology by which we can get affordable rents for folks and there’s a shortage of affordable housing right now. A lot of people have built, a lot of the market rate has been built but with the downfall that we had with the ’08-’09 real 6 estate market a lot of the resources went away for affordable housing. So there’s still folks in communities that wanted to stay in communities and this is the way to do that, by making affordable housing for them in the neighborhood. Toy: Do your numbers show that in Livonia, that we have a need? Gazrys: Yes, they do. We had a market study done, MSHDA, it was done through MSHDA, whenever we propose one of these projects and that indicated there was a need of 540, a great need for affordable housing within the City of Livonia. Toy: May we get a copy of that? Gazrys: Sure, absolutely. Toy: Thank you, appreciate that. Any other questions? McIntyre: Madam Chair. Toy: Yes, Councilwoman McIntyre. McIntyre: Through the Chair, and I’m not sure if this should go to the Petitioner or to the Administration, but would these be included and be a part of that Voucher Rental Assistance Program? Gasryz: We have currently been working with the Housing Commission for the units that would be designated as vouchers towards this project. McIntyre: Thank you. Toy: All right. We ask you to stick around for this issue tonight. There’s a lot of interest in this issue with several of our residents that are here and if there’s any other comments that you want to make at this time, please do so. Gasryz: No, but if there are any questions, I will be happy to answer them. Toy: Perfect. Thank you for being here. This opens it up to Audience Communication and if there’s anyone that wishes to speak on this subject matter, this is your time. Approach the podium, please share your name and address that will be helpful. Earl: Good evening. I’m Tammy Earl, 28980 Morlock. Along with several of my neighbors we are very concerned about this. We back up to that property. They did say there were other probable buildings that couldn’t come up 7 with plumbing, they said there was an issue there because it so close to the Farmington line, I don’t remember exactly what it was but that is concerning. We are very concerned on the run-off. I came before the community a couple months ago with problems that we had with dark houses and crime and that they weren’t really watching the crime in our area, our crime is huge in that area. So to bring low income housing, what is that going to do to our crime? How much parking is going to be there? We have many, many, concerns that we need answers for. Also, when I bought my house I was mindful of going around and looking to see what was around my house and at the time there was a house on that property. That’s why I chose my property. If there was a three-story building there, I would not have bought my property. How is that going to affect our property values moving forward? Also, the cemetery there was built I believe it was in the early 1800’s, are we positive that there aren’t graves within that property line? There’s a fence there but that doesn’t mean that you know that’s completely encased with some of those graves or whatever. Also, there are wetlands behind our house, there’s animals, deer, fox, coyotes, you name it, it’s there. How is that going to affect their habitat? We just need all those answers. Considering the parking that’s going to be involved there, bright lights, our personal enjoyment is going to be gone with that building back there. Those are my concerns. Toy: Anything else you’d like to add at this point? Earl: No, not yet. Bahr: Madam Chair. Toy: Councilman Bahr. Bahr: You mentioned there used to be a house there? Earl: Yes. Bahr: We’re talking about one particular lot tonight but there’s actually three lots there. Earl: It was the house closest to the cemetery, it ended up being vacated, the Fire Department used it as a controlled burn. Bahr: Through the Chair to Scott, did there used to be a house on each of those lots, do you have any idea? Miller: No, I do not. No, but these have been OS. Bahr: Oh, because they were zoned OS? 8 Miller: Yes. Bahr: Okay, thank you. Earl: Is there anything else from the previous development that was trying to be built there that couldn’t get approved because of the plumbing issues? Toy: It’s in our notes, it was back in ’05 and it was a two-story medical office building they were proposing. Earl: So if a two-story medical office couldn’t be approved because of that, how is a three-story multi-unit? Toy: Well, this was a 12,000 square foot one, okay, and that was extended two times for that piece of property so I’m not really sure what was happening in ’05, I didn’t happen to be here that year but, you know, we could find out some more history. Earl: That would be a major concern of ours, a structure, I mean with that nursing home at the end of our street, they are constantly there with that Liqui-Force truck flushing the lines and everything. Toy: So, there is a nursing home right there? Earl: Right. Thank you. Toy: Thank you. I appreciate you coming out tonight. Is there anyone else wishing to speak on this item? Just give us your name and address. Bauer: My name is Andrew Bauer, I live at 29030 Morlock and I have a lot of concerns. I was here two months ago when these people said they are affiliated, associated with the HUD Housing Projects and that these potential residents were $11,000 to $13,000 incomes. I don’t know anyone that lives in Livonia that meets that financial status but the big thing that concerned me is not just the property values and the run-offs, the electrical. Our power goes out twice, three times a year, all the time for the last ten years. There was two houses back there and there was a third one that was on this property they wanted to change, that was seventy years ago. This run-off, I have run-off from the gas station, the St. Paul’s Church, the landscape supply in that strip mall all comes off of a pipe out of his backyard. And if you’re going to put three more acres of run-off it’s going to come into my backyard. The drainage is on our property, it’s not on the property they’re planning on developing. I don’t know, like you said, we’ve got a nursing home four doors down, we have all kinds of traffic constantly. Our houses, every one of our houses were 9 built in the ‘40s, ‘30s and ‘20s, if you’re going to construct this thing between the contractors and the trucks and all the shaking and everything, we already have problems with our plumbing, our drainage, my gas line broke in my front yard. Like I said between the electrical and the water supply, in the middle of the afternoon if you’re watering your lawn, the sprinklers barely work because there’s a strain on the water supply. You’re going to put fifty more people adjacent to my backyard, they’re going to have to have a supply of water, if they’re going to house a bunch of people and feed them, all these dumpsters and the noise and the rats that come along with that kind of stuff, I’m adamantly opposed to the whole idea. I mean a one-story office building would be fine but not a three-story apartment complex. That’s the way I feel. Toy: Thank you very much for your comments tonight. Childress: My name is Robert Childress, I live at 29110 Morlock, right next to the convalescent home. I’ve lived there for a period of fifty years. After they put the convalescent home there, all the dumpsters used to be in the back alley and now they’re up across my fence and when I go back there I see nothing but dumpster lids up in the air. And in the summertime, there’s a path through my grass over to the --- from next door to me over to the dumpsters like it’s a path you know. That’s one of my big concerns with this and I’ll get trashing going to these dumpsters. I’ve been over there several times and they say, we’ll take care of it and then the next morning the lids are still up. So I’m sure that’s what’s going to happen. And, you know, west of the – Toy: Proposed site, sir? Childress: The place on the corner and all their stuff comes down the alley in my backyard and down to Andy’s backyard. So, right now I look in my backyard and I see dumpster lids and I don’t want to see that. It seems that that part of Livonia is really neglected, we’re what we consider the armpit of Livonia or something, it’s not a nice place to eat and live anymore. Toy: Sir, if I may, I’d like to, if you’ll put it in the notes, Bonnie, I’d like Inspection to go out and check the convalescent home for excess garbage, dumpsters, whatever is going on over there and help these neighbors out because you’re right, you shouldn’t have to put up with that. Childress: I talked to the City inspectors and they said as long as they’re three feet from your fence there’s nothing they can do about it. Why should they be across my fence? Toy: We’re going to try and get them out there. Councilman Bahr. 10 Childress: The dumpsters are really a bad scene and all the trash coming up from the west. Bahr: Just for your information, sir, the issue for tonight is the rezoning of the property. Childress: Pardon me? Bahr: I said the issue tonight is the rezoning of the property. If this were to pass and if this project were to proceed, there would come a point where we would review the site plan as a Council, and that’s the point if there are issues like dumpster location and those kind of things are all taken up and there will come a time where the residents can express their concerns. The concerns you’re expressing tonight, that is something that comes further down the line, we are here for a rezoning petition tonight. Childress: My backyard used to be part of the swamp back there, they filled that up and they said they were going to put soil back there and reseed it. They put granual sandbags there, I couldn’t dig there anymore. The city inspector assured me that all the plumbing was already appropriated to fill in that whole drainage area from there. Toy: Sir, I don’t want to interrupt you but I’m going to. Councilman Bahr stated we are here for a rezoning of a piece of property and we appreciate you being here tonight, we appreciate you sharing your troubles on your piece of property. We are going to look into that for you, okay. Did you leave your name and phone number and all that good stuff on that paper for us and someone will get ahold of you, sir, to go over some of those issues you’re having. But short of that we need testimony about the site we’re looking at right now. So we appreciate you coming and we’lll look at those problems. Childress: That’s another thing, the rezoning says Office Services, but what does that have to do with multiple? Toy: That’s what the current is and that’s what it has to be zoned in order to meet the zoning for the City. Childress: Thank you very much. I had a stroke about three years ago. Toy: You did great, you did great. No worries. Kritzman: Madam Chair. Toy: Councilman Kritzman. 11 Kritzman: A quick clarification for Mr. Childress, part of the reason they are requesting Office Services which sounds a little out of sync with a residential development, the reason behind that is that they’re planning on having some space within the building with I think a small barbershop or something like that, it would help service the residents inside the building. So in order to allow for a residential unit to be built on the same property as something that would be like an office say like a barbershop is the OS zoning is for that. Childress: Thank you. Toy: Thank you, Councilman Kritzman. Crider: Is it okay if I speak? Toy: Yes. You have to sign in otherwise Bonnie will never talk to us again. Crider: My name is Ken Crider, I live at 16381 Fairway, Livonia, Michigan. I was born and raised at 20117 St. Francis in Livonia, Michigan, in the neighborhood right behind this proposed project or zoning change. I can remember riding my bike as a kid to that strip center and buying my first pocket knife at a sporting goods store that used to be in that shopping center. I know the property, I know the area there and to me I’m really not invested in the area but I am invested in Livonia. That area is one of the biggest eyesores in that area, there’s a five-story vacant office building right across from Livonia Mall that seems to always be looking for tenants. To me it’s out of place, a five-story building and there’s nothing else in that whole area that’s over two stories. And myself, I would be against changing this to something that they can put a three-story building, it would be out of place. There’s nothing to compare to that in the area. I once asked a politician once why nobody knocks doors in the neighborhood back in there and they said well, because those people don’t vote. And I really want to be sure that everybody is sensitive to these people and where they live and I really do feel that a three-story office building wouldn’t be appropriate there and that’s just my opinion, I’m not invested in the area but I thought I would come out and speak because that was my neighborhood when I was a little kid. Toy: Yes, thank you. Kritzman: Madam Chair. Toy: Yes, Mr. Kritzman. Kritzman: Mr Crider, do you understand this is actually a residential development? 12 Crider: It’s the three-story that I am opposed to, not necessarily the project itself. Kritzman: I wanted to be clear because you referenced office several times. Crider: Oh, I’m sorry. You know I think when I mentioned the office I was mentioning the office building that’s around on Merriman Road that’s kind of out of place. Kritzman: And I think it’s taller than five stories, I think it’s seven or eight or nine. Crider: But it’s just out of place when you drive by there and you look there and you watched it being built, that’s my neighborhood. To me that’s a building that’s out of place, trying to figure out things to do with it, to try and fill it and even changing it. Those are some thoughts. But to me it’s just I don’t think that deserves a three-story building in that spot. There’s nothing else in that area that’s three stories tall. Toy: Thank you, very much. Anything else? Bahr: Madam Chair. Toy: Sure. Bahr: Through the Chair to Mr. Miller, the other properties, all of which are at least two stories, are those Office Service as well? Miller: No, I believe those are R-9. Bahr: That’s what I thought. And so is the difference here as Councilman Kritzman mentioned, some of the things they’re planning in here to do are they different than what they do in those other places? I would assume that those places would have things like barbershops? Miller: The reason here is the density, they get a bigger density with the OS than the R-9. Bahr: Okay, thank you. Toy: Vice President Jolly. Jolly: Good evening, Madam President. Mr. Miller and possibly the Petitioner, Eight Mile is a Wayne County road, has there been any talk or any discussions with Wayne County in terms of rainwater runoff, or anything that needs to be done to the property? We’ve heard from residents here 13 who have expressed that that’s an issue, are they involved in this process at all, Wayne County? Miller: Yes, I’m not sure, that’s engineering. Jolly: Okay. Is the Petitioner here? Kritzman: My assumption is that – Gazrys: We’ve engaged an engineer to look at the County and to work with Wayne County on stormwater, additionally we’ll be working with the City and its own internal engineer to approve anything we’ve done with the stormwater on site and any of the concerns addressed, we always encourage folks that have concerns and work with our architects to provide a quality development. These are independent senior housing, it’s not convalescent or assisted, it’s independent. Jolly: Thank you. Toy: Councilman Kritzman. Kritzman: Thank you, Madam Chair. Just to the folks in the audience who did express concerns about some of the drainage issues they have, because of situations like your home and if you do have drainage that is why Wayne County has revised their stormwater ordinances and Wayne County actually has one of the most stringent, in fact it’s terribly stringent at times, but Wayne County has one of the most stringent requirements for new developments to go in. And this project would be completely subject to the approval of the Wayne County Engineering Department which is something that is something that is certainly a vastly different process than the timeframe when Mr. Childress said his home was built fifty years ago, it’s a vastly different process now and so I really believe that between the Livonia Engineering Department and the Wayne County requirements, that those things would be dealt with. But I think it’s great to bring those things up because if there are issues that exist outside of the property line, now is the time to do that, so thank you. Toy: Councilman Meakin. Meakin: Madam Chair, I think we’ve heard the sentiment of the residents in the neighborhood. I’m going to offer three resolutions, one is approving, one is denying and one is to refer to the Committee of the Whole. Toy: Thank you. We have three resolutions then, Bonnie, you’ve got it? Murphy: So noted. 14 Toy: And if I may and this may be studied further but just now at the Public Hearing, do you believe you need a three-story building, I mean are your numbers based on three stories? Gazrys: Yes. Toy: Okay. Is there a timeline you’re on, sir? Gazrys: We’ve been working on this for quite some time but we’re trying to get in at the April deadline. There’s two rounds every year so we’re looking at April. As far as the rezoning goes, we understand there’s a rigorous both through Wayne County and internally through the City of Livonia for the site plan process to address all these issues, so we would just encourage you if we could get to the -- we know there’s a need and a demand for the senior, especially senior affordable in working with the Livonia Housing Commission so in consideration during the zoning we know all of these items will be addressed and we will address all these. Toy: Sure. And just a reminder, if you could submit those to our Council office which is on the second floor of this building. We would really appreciate it. Gazrys: Absolutely. Toy: Thank you very much for being here tonight. McIntyre: Madam Chair. Toy: Yes, go ahead. McIntyre: I just want to comment on one issue that was raised. We have the historic cemetery that is adjacent to this property and I think it was a good point that was raised, you know, when there were houses and then there’s nothing there, I don’t know who has jurisdiction over this, if it’s a County issue, but I do think it’s a significant issue that’s raised, that there should be some sort of assessment, I don’t know what the right term is, to make sure that there are not gravesites that extend beyond the boundaries of that cemetery given the age of the cemetery and given the fact that the only thing that was on that property before from what I understand were small residential structures. Toy: If you could make that request, Councilwoman. McIntyre: Yes, I’d like that on the record so that we send it to the Committee of the Whole to determine who has jurisdiction over that or responsibility. 15 Toy: Absolutely. Gazrys: If I may, so as part of the MSHDA process, they do what is called a 106 Review, so if there are any adjacent historic so in addition to an environmental review, there will be an historic so if anything comes up. McIntyre: So I think that addresses, it sounds to me like it gets scooped up in the process with MSHDA? Gazrys: Yes. McIntyre: I just wanted to make sure. Gazrys: From what I hear you saying, yes, that is my understanding. McIntyre: Thank you, Madam Chair. Toy: Certainly. If there’s no one else, we’re going to close the Public Hearing. Go right ahead. Name and address, please. M. Bauer: There was a church there before the two houses, it was an historical site, it was where people went to Lansing by covered wagons, that’s how long that graveyard has been there, so that’s part of that. The other thing is that straight across the street is the bus yard where the busses start at 7:00 o’clock in the morning, I can hear the busses in our yard so that’s going to be a disturbance to anyone that’s straight across the street. The traffic through that area, people will not be able to get out on Middlebelt Road between 4:00 o’clock and 8:00 o’clock. Toy: We appreciate that. Can we have your name and address, please. M. Bauer: My name is Marie Bauer, 29030 Morlock Street. We’ve been there for seventeen years, but for the past seventeen years we’ve had the same ducks come into the valley and the duck families, families of ducks being born there and swim in the little creeks that go along, that’s where the swamp is at. We get the same birds every year because we feed them. We care about them. And my grandchildren play down there and we call it the valley, the kids all play down there and they’ve all fallen into the creek and they’ve all gotten mucky. Now the great grandchildren are playing down there. I don’t want anything behind me that’s going to cause harm to my grandchildren or my greatgrandchildren. I don’t want to have to worry about someone snatching them up and carrying them off and to have that many units in that small of an area because that’s Clarenceville part of Livonia because it used to be Farmington. There’s no taxes being paid, it’s low income housing, we already have open enrollment in our schools with Clarenceville, so this is something that we have to carry and I 16 don’t think that’s fair. We already have a hookah bar there, we already have two barbershops, we have a Lady Jane’s, I figure that the people that move into there will probably walk down to Lady Jane’s than if there’s one inside the development. I just want you to know we’re upset. Audience Member: We have senior housing behind Livonia Mall. M. Bauer: We already have some over there. Why does there have to another one? Clarenceville is only a three mile area, why does there have to be another one? There’s one right there at the Livonia Mall, we’ve got to have another one that close? I don’t think that it should be that way. It should just be office and nothing else. There’s buildings up that way that are empty and they keep building stuff. That place has been what, five years ago they tried to redo, and redo and redo. Every few years they come up with something else. I would think they bought this place for $100,000, $140,000 is what Mrs. Dix told me, she was the one that lived behind us because I would go over and visit her, that’s how close my yard is to this. We walk through the back over to the gas station on the corner, I don’t see how they think they have all that much room to put that big of a unit and shove people together. I’m totally against approving this. Thank you. Toy: Thank you, Mrs. Bauer. This will have three resolutions now, so you’ll understand, three motions of denying, which will deny it; approving, which would approve it as presented; and other things could be added at that meeting, and also Committee of the Whole where we would go upstairs th and study it more in depth, if you will. On Monday, February 12 of this year is when that meeting will take place. As there were no further questions or comments, the Public Hearing was declared closed at 7:47 p.m. SUSAN M. NASH, CITY CLERK