HomeMy WebLinkAbout1,179 - November 30, 2021 signedMINUTES OF THE 1,179th PUBLIC HEARINGS AND REGULAR MEETING
HELD BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021, the City Planning Commission of the City of
Livonia held its 1,179th Public Hearing and Regular Meeting in the Livonia City Hall,
33000 Civic Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan,
Mr. Ian Wilshaw, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Members present: David Bongero Sam Caramagno Betsy McCue
Carol Smiley Peter Ventura Ian Wilshaw
Members absent: Glen Long
Mr. Mark Taormina, Planning Director, and Stephanie Reece, Program Supervisor,
were also present.
Chairman Wilshaw informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda
involves a rezoning request, this Commission makes a recommendation to the City
Council who, in turn, will hold its own public hearing and make the final
determination as to whether a petition is approved or denied. The Planning
Commission holds the only public hearing on a request for preliminary plat and/or
vacating petition. The Commission's recommendation is forwarded to the City
Council for the final determination as to whether a plat is accepted or rejected. If a
petition requesting a waiver of use or site plan approval is denied tonight, the
petitioner has ten days in which to appeal the decision, in writing, to the City
Council. Resolutions adopted by the City Planning Commission become effective
seven (7) days after the date of adoption. The Planning Commission and the
professional staff have reviewed each of these petitions upon their filing. The staff
has furnished the Commission with both approving and denying resolutions, which
the Commission may, or may not, use depending on the outcome of the
proceedings tonight.
ITEM #1 PETITION 2021-10-01-07 Kaseem Bazzi
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda, Petition 2021-
10-01-07 submitted by Kassem Bazzi, pursuant to Sections 13.13
and 13.15 of the Livonia Vision 21 Zoning Ordinance, requesting to
rezone the property at 27480 Five Mile Road, located on the north
side of Five Mile Road between Inkster Road and Foch Avenue in
the Southeast '/4 of Section 13, from NMI, Neighborhood
Multifamily to NM2, Neighborhood Multifamily.
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Mr, Wilshaw: We did receive a letter from the petitioner asking that this item be
tabled to our January 11, 2021, meeting to give them some
additional time to prepare. Mr. Taormina, is there any other
information you wanted to provide?
Mr. Taormina: I just want to point out that the main reason for the tabling is to
submit a corrected notice for this item. They are requesting
January 11, 2021. We will send out a new notice and the item
will be heard on that date.
Mr. Wilshaw: That is because they were looking for different zoning
classification?
Mr. Taormina: Slightly. That is correct.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay, great. The petitioner is here; I believe, in the audience.
Thank you for being here this evening. Is there anyone on the
Commission that has any questions for the petitioner before we
move on with this item? I don't see anyone on the Commission
requesting to ask you any questions at this point. With that, given
that we have receive a request for this item to be tabled, I think
that it would be appropriate for a motion at this time.
On a motion by Caramagno, seconded by Bongero, and unanimously adopted, it
was
#11-66-2021 RESOLVED, That pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on November 30, 2021, on
Petition 2021-10-01-07 submitted by Kassem Bazzi, pursuant to
Sections 13.13 and 13.15 of the Livonia Vision 21 Zoning
Ordinance, requesting to rezone the property at 27480 Five Mile
Road, located on the north side of Five Mile Road between
Inkster Road and Foch Avenue in the Southeast'/4 of Section 13,
from NM1, Neighborhood Multifamily to NM2, Neighborhood
Multifamily, the Planning Commission does hereby table the item
to the Planning Commission meeting of January 11, 2022
FURTHER RESOLVED, That notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 13.13 and
13.15 of the Livonia Vision 21 Zoning Ordinance.
Mr. Wilshaw: There is no discussion on tabling motions.
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
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ITEM #2 PETITION 2021-10-02-22 Century 21 ROW
Mr, Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Petition 2021-
10-02-22 submitted by Century 21 ROW requesting waiver use
approval pursuant to Section 6.58 of the Livonia Vision 21 Zoning
Ordinance to construct and operate a vehicle tow yard
(Excellerated Towing & Recovery) at 34437 Rosati Avenue,
located on the west side of Stark Road just south of the CSX
Railroad in the Southwest'/4 of Section 28.
Mr. Taormina: This is a request to construct and operate a vehicle tow yard at
the west end of Rosati Avenue, which is on the west side of Stark
Road, just south of the CSX railroad. Rosati Industrial Park sub-
division was officially created in 2006. This industrial park
consists of 15 lots. As you can see, the zoning is M-1 (Light
Manufacturing). The subject property is described as Lot 8 of
Rosati Industrial Park. This lot contains a land area of
approximately 31,000 square feet, or roughly .7 acre. Lot 8 is at
the west end of a cul-de-sac. The front lot line along the street
measures roughly 136.6 feet. The average width of the lot at the
building line is approximately 165 feet. Lot 8 is surrounded by
other industrial zoned parcels. The closest residential district is
located roughly 155 feet to the south. Vehicle tow yards are
restricted to M-1 and M-2 districts, where they are treated as a
waiver -use. Except for the front yard setback, the ordinance
requires that the entire lot area be enclosed with a fence. The
site plan for Excellerated Towing shows a 5,800 square foot
building that would be located near the front of the lot. The
fenced -in parking lot would at the rear and along the north side of
the property. The parking lot shows 31 parking spaces, including
one barrier -free space. The minimum required building setback
is 50 feet. The plan shows the building with a 35-foot setback,
which previous to the adoption of the Livonia Vision 21 Zoning
Ordinance last summer, would have been conforming.
Unfortunately, a special setback provision that applied only to
industrial parks did not carry over from Ordinance 543 to the new
zoning ordinance. Section 16.10(a) of Ordinance 543 provided
that when an industrial building fronted on an internal road within
a park, the front yard shall be at least 60 feet as measured from
the centerline of the street. As applied in this case, the building
would be conforming under Ordinance 543. The Planning
Department does intend to amend the current zoning ordinance
to include this language, however, because this will take several
months to complete, the only options available at this time would
be either to seek a variance or move the building back 15 feet.
Required parking is based on a ratio of one space for every 500
square feet of building floor area. The proposed facility requires
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12 parking spaces for employees and customers. The facility, as
we understand would have five employees. The site plan shows
31 spaces that would be available to employees, customers, the
tow trucks, as well as the recovered vehicles. As specified in the
requirements for waiver -use approval, the entire parking lot would
be completely enclosed with a six -foot -high chain -link fence. The
yard's access gate, which is located in the northeast corner,
would be constructed out of six -foot -high black wrought iron type
fencing. The building would be constructed out of a combination
of both brick and split -face block. As you can see from the
elevation plans, there are windows shown along the front and
portions of the side elevations of the building. The rear and north
side would contain overhead doors. The height of the building is
shown as roughly 22 feet. We believe it is a single -story building,
but unsure whether it would contain a mezzanine. The floor plan
that was submitted with the application shows that the space
would include a large shop area, an office, a vehicle prep room,
and a restroom. A dumpster is shown along the west side of the
property. This would be fully enclosed. The details show that it
would be enclosed by walls that would be six -feet in height and
constructed out of 8-inch split face block. Swing gates would be
constructed out of solid corrugated aluminum. For lighting, LED
wall packs are shown along the top of the building. These would
be the only type of security lights for the site. No light poles are
shown. A landscaping plan was provided showing four white
dogwood trees that would be planted along the front in the right-
of-way, as well as arborvitae and grass. This site would be
allowed one wall sign not to exceed 100 square feet in total area.
With that, Mr. Chairman, I can read out the departmental
correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, please.
Mr. Taormina: The first item is from the Engineering Division, dated November
12, 2021, which reads as follows: "In accordance with your
request, the Engineering Division has reviewed the above
referenced petition. We have no objections to the proposed
waiver use at this time. The subject parcel is assigned the
address of #34437 Rosati Avenue. The existing parcel currently
has access to public water main, sanitary sewer and storm sewer
within the Rosati Avenue right-of-way. The developer will need to
meet current Engineering requirements for the proposed project,
including storm water detention per the latest version of the
Wayne County Storm Water Ordinance. It should be noted that
the parcel is within an area being investigated for soil and
groundwater contamination. As a result, the developer may be
required to provide special provisions under the slab of the new
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structure to protect against vapor intrusion or groundwater
interface. Final requirements will not be known until the
investigation has been completed, but until that time the
developer may want to contact the Michigan Department of
Environment Great Lakes, and Energy (EGLE) for more details."
The letter is signed by David W. Lear, P.E., Assistant City
Engineer. The next letter is from the Livonia Fire & Rescue
Division, dated November 11, 2021, which reads as follows: "This
office has reviewed the site plan submitted in connection with a
request to construct a commercial building on property located at
the above referenced address. We have no objections to this
proposal." The letter is signed by Greg Thomas, Fire Marshal.
The next letter is from the Division of Police, dated November 18,
2021, which reads as follows: `9 have reviewed the plans in
connection with the petition. I have no objections to the proposal."
The letter is signed by Scott Sczepanski, Sergeant, Traffic
Bureau. The next letter is from the Inspection Department, dated
November 22, 2021, which reads as follows: Pursuant to your
request, the above referenced Petition has been reviewed. 1. A
variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals would be required to
maintain the deficient front yard setback. The required minimum
front yard setback is 50 feet. This Department has no further
objections to this Petition. " The letter is signed by Jerome Hanna,
Director of Inspection. The next letter is from the Finance
Department, dated November 16, 2021, which reads as follows:
"I have reviewed the addresses connected with the above noted
petition. As there are no outstanding amounts receivable, general
or water and sewer, I have no objections to the proposal." The
letter is signed by Connie Kumpula, Chief Accountant. The next
letter is from the Treasurer's Department, dated November 15,
2021, which reads as follows: `In accordance with your request,
the Treasurer's Office has reviewed the address connected with
the above noted petition. At this time, there are no outstanding
amounts receivable for taxes. Therefore, I have no objections to
the proposal." The letter is signed by Lynda Scheel, Treasurer.
That is the extent of the correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you. Are there any questions of the Planning Director?
Or.
Caramagno: Mark, what other junk yards, towing yards have we got in the city
right now?
Or.
Taormina: I can only think of two. Livonia Towing is the main tow yard, and
then Ross Towing located on Inkster Road. I am not sure of the
status of that particular tow yard which was approved by the
Zoning Board of Appeals some number of years ago.
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Mr, Caramagno:
Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Thank you, Mr. Caramagno. Mr. Taormina, maybe this is a
question for the petitioner, but how is the public supposed to
access the parking spaces if the gate is in front of the parking
spaces?
Mr. Taormina:
I think we are going to defer that question to the petitioner. This
question came up at the study meeting and it was passed on to
the owners. I believe they are prepared to respond to that
question.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Great. We will make sure to ask them. Thank you. If there are
no other questions for our planning staff, I will go to our petitioner
who can come forward to our podium and we will ask that you
start with your name and address for our record.
Terry Sever, Century 21 ROW, 1883 Teakwood, White Lake, MI, 48383, 1 am
actually the petitioner and an agent with Century 21 ROW.
I have
been working on this industrial subdivision for the last year and a
half.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Sever: I think the record has me, my business, Century 21 here in
Livonia at Six Mile and Middlebelt. We are locally run. First of
all, the question regarding the access. At the time I was at the
study session, I wasn't completely sure of how that... how to
answer that. The owner of the towing company would be happy
to address it. The simple answer is that their operation is going
to run from 8:00 a.m. in the morning to 4:00 p.m, in the afternoon.
When they are open the fence will be open. When they close up
and leave then the fence will be closed. So, there was some
discussion about doing a design with the parking spots outside,
but there really isn't a need to do that. I don't think they want to
encourage people come in there and parking. The other thing is
because it is such a secluded end of the road, it would probably
be a half -mile road. At the end of it, it has become a fairly popular
lovers lane type setup. They don't want to encourage that. With
regard to the DEQ issue, Eagle, we have already communicated
with them. The Engineering Department has talked to them. Ron
Emling, who is back here, he is the owner of the property, and he
has already built the house, or I mean a building almost the exact
same design, except his is turned completely different than the
one you see we did. From left to right so that we could screen
the back as much as possible. He has one on Lot 12 and he met
the requirements that Eagle was looking for. There hasn't been
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any issue because the footings are above the ground water and
all that kind of stuff. We believe that this is a very good site. From
a service standpoint and a planning standpoint, there is probably
not enough towing businesses in a community with all of the
expressways and service. I know that I had a personal
experience in trying to get my vehicle and it was not easy
because the towing company had a second yard that was on
Telegraph in Redford, and it was very difficult. In the end they
said well you can come pick it up and we will push it outside the
fence. I think it will be helpful for residents that do get a tow and
do have an accident. He will address this, but his business is
primarily call insurance work, and things like that. He doesn't do
abandoned vehicles. Occasionally, maybe once a year or
something, he may get that call from a private owner, but he is
not in the business of creating a junk yard and bringing vehicles
in and have them sit there for a length of time or sell spare parts
and all that kind of stuff. He is really more into towing. When we
had the floods along the expressway, he did have to pick up some
vehicles with some residents that lived in Livonia. The insurance
settlement and all of that took maybe 90 days, so he has areas
where he has somebody come in and look at the vehicle. They
end up totaling it because of the contaminated water in the
flooded areas on the expressway. Other than that, I think this is
a good fit for the city. We have taken care and tried to address
the screening part of it. With that, I will let you...I will introduce
Mike. Mike is the towing operator, and he will be happy to answer
any questions.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Sever. Good evening, sir.
Michael Fields, 14310 21 1/2 Mile Road, Marshall, MI.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you for coming tonight. Is there anything else you would
like to tell us about your business?
Mr. Fields: I think Mr. Sever pretty much covered everything that we do. I
guess we need to reiterate that we are not a salvage yard. We
are not a scrap yard. We don't do any of those things. That is
not our business. The majority of our business is road service.
So, changing flat tires, jump starts, fuel delivery, and any vehicles
that are going to be on the property are basically designed to be
there for short amounts of time. It is not profitable for our
business to store inoperable vehicles. The owners, when they
have accidents or what have you, and the vehicle needs to go
through a claim, the goal is to get it to a dealership or repair shop
as soon as possible so they can move forward with their life and
be back in their vehicle.
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Mr. Wilshaw: Great. Thank you. Let's see if we have any questions from any
of our commissioners for you.
S. Smiley: Good evening. So, like AAA would call you or now would I know
how to call you?
Mr. Fields: Exactly. We have contractor rates with AAA, Agero, Nationsafe
Drivers, and probably over 50 motor clubs that we work for. GM
Roadside Assistance and things of that nature. So, a lot of our
calls come in through Vehicle Tow Books. It is an app that all of
the towing companies use. Also, we do Google advertising as
well. So, for example, if you were in a situation and you needed
a tow and you didn't know how to get a tow, a lot of people would
do what is really common and Google tow truck near me and a
lot of times we will come up and it is another way to service the
citizens.
Ms. Smiley: Okay, and then there was a...when we were talking about this
plan, they said you could move the building back 15 feet or get a
variance. Which way are you going to go with that?
Mr. Fields: To be honest you...
Mr. Sever: Let me respond to that. Let's come back.
Ms. Smiley: Okay. You said you are only open from 8 to 4?
Mr. Fields: 8 to 4 Monday through Friday.
Ms. Smiley: Monday through Friday, so if (...what happens if I have an
accident on Saturday?
Mr. Fields: Well, that is our office hours. 8 to 4. If you have an accident, we
area 24-hour service. That doesn't mean that our trucks stop
running after that. That just means at four o'clock there is no
need to tow a vehicle out because a lot of the facilities that would
accept vehicles they close. Their primary hours basically 8 to 5.
Generally, it takes us 45 minutes to get a car loaded and
delivered in a reasonable area. That is why our hours are 8 to 4
and many dealerships are not open on Saturday and definitely
not on Sunday. That is why.
Ms. Smiley: So, if I was in an accident, I would call you. You wouldn't fix it but
on Monday through Friday I could come and get my car, or my
car insurance adjustor could come and look at it?
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Mr. Fields: Exactly. That is now,
Ms. Smiley: You would take it somewhere to be fixed, but not you.
Mr. Fields: We would take it somewhere. To a shop of your choice or your
insurance company... wherever they would like it to go.
Sometimes vehicles are unable to be repaired. They will settle
with a salvage yard like Co -Part or IAA and they will come and
pick the vehicle up so the claim will be settled before the vehicle
even leaves our facility.
Ms. Smiley: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Ms. Smiley. Any other questions for our petitioner?
Mr. Caramagno: Do you own the property now or is this pending an approval to
open up a tow yard there?
Mr. Fields: It is pending approval.
Mr. Caramagno: I missed the study session and looked at some of the notes here
and you have got a couple yards. You have a yard out in
Redford?
Mr. Fields: Correct.
Mr. Caramagno: What do you plan to do with that yard?
Mr. Fields: We will consolidate everything to Livonia. We want all of our
business to be in one central location where our trucks are stored,
and a majority of our work is actually in Livonia, Farmington, and
Bloomfield. So, it is right in that western cul-de-sac and that is
better for our business.
Mr. Caramagno: Now, the work you have, you said the majority of the work you
have got, is that based upon where your calls come from or do
have contracts with Livonia? Or Farmington Hills?
Mr. Fields: Correct. We do not have any police contracts or anything like
that. The area that we service is noted via satellite with Google.
That is how all of our roadside assistance companies know our
area and we have a range in which we work. We have a 20-mile
range.
Mr. Caramagno: Okay. Wrecked cars, abandoned cars... how do you track them
in your yard so that they don't stay there for four, five, or six
years? How do you know that?
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Mr. Fields: With wrecked cars there is usually no need to track it because if
it comes through on an insurance type claim, the adjustors will
notify usually within 24-hours of the accident. It is tracked
automatically by the owner and the insurance company.
Mr. Caramagno: Okay, so say someone doesn't have insurance and we know
there are many that don't. They wreck their car on Five Mile
Road. You get the call to come get it.
Mr. Fields: Correct.
Mr. Caramagno: How do you purge that car? How do you get rid of that car when
it is in limbo and no insurance?
Mr. Fields: It is one of three ways that that happens. First, the owner wants
to redeem their vehicle so that they can seek repairs. Two, they
will forward the title to us, and we will take it over to GLR which is
literally across the street from this location. Then it would be
dismantled by them. We don't do any dismantling. That is two
ways. The third way is the longest way. That is where you file
for title. Once it goes into a system, a database... the State of
Michigan database, usually within 30 to 45 days you obtain a
TR52. That is application for title. At that point in time, you either
sell the car through auction or you dispose of it at GLR. Once
again, our option will be to dispose of it at GLR.
Mr. Caramagno: Okay. How do you treat fluids that leak out of these cars? Oil.
Antifreeze. How do you handle that?
Mr. Fields: Fortunately, and unfortunately, by
the time the car gets
to our
yard at this site, it has leaked
all of
its fluids right then and
there.
So, at that point in time we do
clean
up the site because all
of our
trucks are equipped with Floor
Dry, foam and mats to recover and
secure all fluids. Once again,
once
the vehicle gets to our
yard it
is empty.
Mr. Caramagno: Okay. How long have you been in business?
Mr. Fields: I have been towing now for close to 30 years.
Mr. Caramagno: Thank you.
Or.
Fields: Your welcome.
Or.
Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Caramagno. Mr. Ventura?
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Or. Ventura: I noticed on the floor plan that you provided to us that there is a
vehicle prep area in the building. What happens there?
Mr. Fields: A lot of stuff.
In that area
trucks will be
washed or serviced. Our
own personal
trucks. We
are not open
to the public. We are not
looking to do
any repairs or anything like that to public vehicles.
Mr. Ventura: So, that is strictly for your own?
Mr. Fields: Yes. That is strictly for us.
Mr. Ventura: You are not doing any repairs?
Mr. Fields: Absolutely not.
Mr. Ventura: Okay. How many vehicles do you pick up on a weekly basis?
Mr. Fields: Pick up and house, I would say on an average week probably 2
to 5 at the most. Normally, anything that comes in, it pretty much
goes out the next day. For example, if there was an accident and
it happened after hours, and we picked it up, by the next day the
insured or the insurance company either wants one or two things
to happen. They want the claims adjuster to come by and
evaluate the damages to see if it is repairable or totaled and then
two, the owner wants the vehicle to be repaired as soon as
possible because many of these cars' people are still paying a
car payment and insurance. Everyone is wanting to get their
vehicle moved expeditiously.
Mr. Ventura: Are there instances where you pick up a car and it doesn't come
to your facility? It goes directly to...
Mr. Fields: A lot of times that is exactly what happens. Let's say for example,
an accident occurs 12:30pm or 1:00 pm in the afternoon, there is
ample amount of time for that vehicle to go to a dealership or
repair facility and a lot of times that is exactly what will happen.
Mr. Ventura: Great. Thank you. I guess I have a question for Mr. Sever. I
don't understand your role here, sir. Are you the developer of the
property? Are you going to own the building? How do you fit in?
Or,
Sever: I am the agent that was involved in putting together the offer to
purchase and I represent the fellow selling the property and is
going to build it. So, I just represented...
Mr. Ventura: So, when
you say
you have been
working on
this for a while as
an agent
to put the
deal together,
not in terms
of....
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Mr. Sever: I am
sorry.
What I
was
referring
to was the industrial subdivision
that
totals 15
or 16
lots.
Selling
them
one at a time.
Mr. Ventura: Okay.
Mr. Sever: There is other bungs that are in the process and have
been
submitted to Engineering
for building.
This one, because
it is a
towing, there was a waiver required.
The other ones are not
required. They meet the
ordinance so there is no reason
to be
here for those, but I have
background
local government process
and stuff so, as an agent I
get involved
and help the owners
move
through the process.
Mr. Ventura: I understand. Thank you. I got it. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Ventura. Mr. Sever, was there another question
that you were going to answer?
Mr. Sever: I want to address the setback. I kind of surprised Mark threw it at
him tonight, but from my experience and what knowledge I have,
this site plan was approved with full engineering and building
envelopes and everything back in like he said, 2006. At that point
in time site plan was approved for specific setbacks, which I think
called for a 60 foot from the center of the road. My question will
be to the City Attorney is that that should have been
grandfathered in, particularly since the owner of that site plan and
the property built the road, put the utilities in, and built a couple
buildings. It would probably be unreasonable to ... like any
subdivision to move the setbacks once a development has
started. So, if I am wrong on that and it is not agreed upon from
a grandfathered end standpoint, then we will most like go and
take that information and go for a variance. We would prefer to
keep the building where it is at, because it allows the additional
10 feet to the back of the lot. It doesn't affect any aesthetics or
any type of site distance and eyesore and stuff like that. We have
a great deal of jobs there. There was at one time a proposed site
plan, conceptual, where the building went long ways, so the
frontage was only 58 feet. We redesigned it so that we would
actually have about 100 feet of frontage. We will pursue it with
whichever makes... whichever we have to do in terms of it, but...
Mr. Wilshaw: Sure. That makes sense. I think we understand kind of how
things came about to where we are right now, given our ordinance
change that happened recently and we will do what we need to
do to rectify that.
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Mr. Sever: Typically, ordinances,
when they
are amended, they
don't go
retroactive back 10 or
15 years so,
that would be rather
unusual,
but whatever we need
to do to get
through it is what we
will do.
Mr. Wilshaw: Sounds great. Thank you. Is there any other questions for our
petitioner or their representatives? Mr. Taormina?
Mr. Taormina: If I may ask a question of Mr. Fields. Mr. Fields, do you have or
intend to have a vehicle dealer license in connection with your
business?
Mr. Fields: Absolutely not. It is not necessary for my business. I do not plan
to apply for ... I think it is an A, B, and C salvage license to
dismantle and all that stuff. I am not interested in that.
Mr. Taormina: So, when a vehicle goes to auction, if you obtain title to the
vehicle, then how is it that you sell that vehicle? I understand if
you bring it over to GLR and go that route.
Mr. Fields: That is what we do every time. We do not have the desire or
capability to rebuild or repair or part out vehicles. It takes away
from our business. We have a limited amount of time to serve
our customers and we do what we got into business to do, and
that is towing and roadside. I can answer that question firmly and
assure you we are not looking for a salvage license or anything.
I don't even like the look of salvage cars on our property. The
quicker they go, the better.
Mr. Taormina: I appreciate that. So, no Class A, no Class B, no Wholesale and
no salvage license?
Mr. Fields: No. None of that.
Mr. Taormina: Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Taormina. Any other questions?
Mr. Caramagno: You might have said this in the study session or ever earlier today
and I might not have heard you, but is the plan for this whole yard
to be paved or concrete?
Mr. Wilshaw: Asphalt, right?
Mr. Taormina: So, the main lot here would be asphalt. Everything... it really
speaks for itself. The turf areas are shown in green. Building in
this brown color, and then balance would be asphalt, I believe,
with concrete curbing completely around the parking lot.
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Mr. Caramagno: Thank you.
Ms. Smiley: One more
thing.
We
talked about
that fence. That red line is not
the fence.
You
know
the red line?
What is the story with that?
Mr. Wilshaw: Setbacks?
Mr. Taormina: The red line show two different things. One shows the property
boundaries along the perimeter and then the inside line shows
the setback requirements under the old ordinance. The fence line
actually... there is a six-foot high masonry wall for these 20 feet
approximately from this point forward or to the property line
extending west to the northwest corner of the parking lot and the
fence then carries down to the southwest corner of the parking lot
and then ties into the southwest corner of the building here. That
is the fence location.
Ms. Smiley: Okay. I just wanted to clarify that from the study session.
Mr. Taormina: I will point out that, while this short section of wall is a nice feature
to consider, it might present a vision problem. So, a vehicle
parked here, backing up, would not be able to see any incoming
vehicle. In these cases, we usually step that wall down to a
maximum height of 3 feet. That is something you should
consider.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Ms. Smiley:
Okay.
Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Ms. Smiley. Any other questions? That was a good
question about the red line. A little questionable there. Mr.
Ventura?
Mr. Ventura: Are you going to own the building?
Jr.
Fields: Yes, sir.
Mr. Ventura: Great, thank you.
Or.
Wilshaw: Good question. Any other questions? If not, I have just a couple
brief questions since I wasn't at the study meeting. Just to
understand, you were talking about different scenarios in which
you have ... that you keep vehicles for different lengths of time and
you said that the longest process was if you needed to obtain a
title for a vehicle.
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Mr. Fields: Correct.
Mr. Wilshaw: So, a situation where someone has a vehicle that is not insured
and it really isn't worth much of anything and for some reason you
need to impound it or tow it, and that person probably isn't going
to come back for it because it would cost more to get it out of tow
than it would be to even justify the cost of the vehicle. Does that
happen very often?
Mr. Fields: It happens, but to alleviate that issue, we deal with a lot of other
tow yards. We offer them basically return of the title, so we don't
pursue any legal actions. Then in many cases people come and
give you the title, which allows you to take it to GLR and then they
scarp it at that point in time. That saves a lot of time. I don't have
to apply for a TR52 and put it into lien. I can tell you that happens
more times than not, because when someone feels that it can be
eliminated of a potential debt, they usually take advantage of the
opportunity.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay, so you have worked with that situation. Okay, great. That
is interesting. The other question is, do you do any
repossessions?
Mr. Fields: Absolutely not.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay.
Mr. Fields: It is not worth putting my guys or my trucks into jeopardy. It is not
a good thing. The amount of insurance you have carry to do that
type of work is ungodly.
Mr. Wilshaw: Sure. It is a very risky business, and it is also potentially risky for
your property as well. People will try and get
Or,
their
vehicles back.
Okay, any
other questions from
anybody? If
not, I
think we have
exhausted
our questions. Is
there anyone in
the audience
wishing to
speak for or against
this item? I
don't'
think there is
anyone else here, so with that,
Mr. Fields, is
there
anything else
you would
like to tell us before we make our decision?
Fields: I think we pretty much covered everything. If you have any other
questions you may think of I am more than willing to answer.
Mr. Wilshaw: Sounds good. Let's see what happens here with a motion. Is
there anyone wishing to make a motion?
On a motion by Smiley, seconded by McCue, and unanimously adopted, it was
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#11-67-2021 RESOLVED, That pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on November 9, 2021, on
Petition 2021-10-02-22 submitted by Century 21 ROW requesting
waiver use approval pursuant to Section 6.58 of the Livonia
Vision 21 Zoning Ordinance to construct and operate a vehicle
tow yard (Excellerated Towing & Recovery) at 34437 Rosati
Avenue, located on the west side of Stark Road just south of the
CSX Railroad in the Southwest /4 of Section 28, the Planning
Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that
Petition 2021-10-02-22 be approved subject to the following
conditions:
1. That the Architectural Site Plan identified as Sheet # DA-2.0
dated October 28, 2021, prepared by Arista Design, Inc., is
hereby approved and shall be adhered to.
2. Subject to a determination by the Inspection Department,
the petitioner may be required to obtain a variance from the
Zoning Board of Appeals for deficient building front yard
setback and any conditions related thereto.
3. All parking spaces, except the required handicapped
spaces, shall be doubled striped at ten feet (10') wide by
twenty feet (20') in length as required.
4. That the maximum number of vehicles parked on the site at
any given time, including employees, customers, tow trucks
and recovered vehicles, shall not exceed thirty-one (31)
vehicles.
5. That the Landscape Plan identified as Sheet # DA-3.0 dated
October28I 2021, prepared by Arista Design, Inc., is hereby
approved and shall be adhered to,
6. That all disturbed lawn areas shall be sodded in lieu of hydro
seeding,
7. That underground sprinklers are to be provided for all
landscaped and sodded areas and all planted materials
shall be installed to the satisfaction of the Inspection
Department and thereafter permanently maintained in a
healthy condition.
8. That the Exterior Elevations Plan identified as Sheet # DA-
4.0 dated October 28, 2021, prepared by Arista Design, Inc.,
is hereby approved and shall be adhered to.
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9. That all rooftop mechanical equipment shall be concealed
from public view on all sides by screening that shall be of a
compatible character, material and color to other exterior
materials on the building.
10. That any pole -mounted light fixtures shall not exceed twenty
feet (20') in height and shall be aimed and shielded to
minimize stray light trespassing across property lines and
glaring into adjacent roadways.
11. That the trash dumpster area and encloser gates shall be
constructed in accordance with the Dumpster Enclosure
Details, as shown on the approved site plan.
12. That only conforming signage is approved with this petition,
and any additional signage shall be separately submitted for
review and approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals.
13. That the specific plans referenced in this approving
resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department
at the time the building permits are applied for; and,
14. Pursuant to Section 13.13 of the Livonia Vision 21 Zoning
Ordinance, this approval is valid for a period of one year only
from the date of approval by City Council, and unless a
building permit is obtained, this approval shall be null and
void at the expiration of said period.
FURTHER RESOLVED, That notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 13.13 of
Livonia Vision 21 Zoning Ordinance.
Mr.
Wilshaw:
Is there any discussion?
Or,
Wilshaw,
Chairman, declared the motion
is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution.
ITEM #3 APPROVAL OF MINUTES 1,178th Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting
Or, Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Approval of
the Minutes of the 1,178th Public Hearing and Regular Meeting
held on November 9, 2021.
On a motion by Ventura , seconded by Bongero , and unanimously adopted, it was
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#11-68=2021 RESOLVED, That the Minutes of 1,178Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting held by the Planning Commission on November
91 2021, are hereby approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Smiley, Ventura, Bongero, Caramagno, Wilshaw
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Long
ABSTAIN: McCue
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 1,179th Public
Hearings and Regular Meeting held on November 30, 2021, was adjourned at 8:49
p.m.
CITY PLANAl1NG COMMISSION
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ATTEST:
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